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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: rangerrebew on June 03, 2014, 05:21:58 pm

Title: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: rangerrebew on June 03, 2014, 05:21:58 pm
Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for


posted at 9:31 pm on June 2, 2014 by Mary Katharine Ham



“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”

I’m really just bringing this to your attention for this quote alone. Voting and paying are different endeavors entirely. Often, when one has to pay for the things one has voted to fund, that decision becomes less flippant. This is a comment, less on the specifics of Texas’ or Austin’s tax system than the blaring disconnect between liberals in Austin who are voting for higher taxes and the actual paying of the taxes. Which, as it turns out, is painful, discouraging, and can be a detriment to the fabric of the city.

The Texas Public Policy Foundation offers this on the complexity and salience of Texas property taxes:


In Texas, there are more than 3,900 localities that impose property taxes, including school districts, counties, and special districts. Texas’ property tax burden has grown from approximately 1 percent of value in the early 1980s to nearly 3 percent today.

The rising burden from property tax is worse for the housing-rich but income-poor elderly homeowners. For example, elderly homeowners tend to move more often to reduce their property tax burden, which is an additional cost of owning a home for those who can least afford to move.

Interestingly, another reason voters hate property taxes is because they are more “salient.” A salient tax means that the burden is transparent, easy to understand, and hard to avoid. If paid directly, property taxes are found to be more salient compared with sales taxes applied at checkout or income taxes withheld from a paycheck.

In 2012, the free-market think tank suggested swapping the local property tax for a sales tax:


New research suggests that if Texas eliminates its local property tax system, ranked as the 14th most oppressive in the nation, and instead replaces those lost revenues with an adjusted sales tax, then the ensuing flood of capital investment and business activity could ignite the Texas economy for years to come.

That’s right, just by changing how Texas governments collect public dollars—but not how much they spend—the Legislature can give the economy and people’s wallets a major boost.

By how much, you ask? Our estimates suggest quite a bit.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/02/liberal-austin-homeowners-surprised-to-find-they-have-to-pay-all-the-taxes-they-voted-for/

Either way, I don’t think Gretchen Gardner is ever going to make the connection between her voting pattern and her bill.
Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: GourmetDan on June 03, 2014, 05:30:12 pm

“I’m at the breaking point,” said Gretchen Gardner, an Austin artist who bought a 1930s bungalow in the Bouldin neighborhood just south of downtown in 1991 and has watched her property tax bill soar to $8,500 this year.

“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”


Yes, they really are that stupid...


Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: flowers on June 03, 2014, 05:47:26 pm
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“It’s not because I don’t like paying taxes,” said Gardner, who attended both meetings. “I have voted for every park, every library, all the school improvements, for light rail, for anything that will make this city better. But now I can’t afford to live here anymore. I’ll protest my appraisal notice, but that’s not enough. Someone needs to step in and address the big picture.”

wow
Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: GourmetDan on June 03, 2014, 05:49:14 pm
wow

Universal suffrage in action...

Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: rangerrebew on June 03, 2014, 06:19:31 pm
They will be in even worse shape by the time Obama and his progressive/liberal friends are finished with them.
Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: truth_seeker on June 03, 2014, 06:38:23 pm

In Texas, there are more than 3,900 localities that impose property taxes, including school districts, counties, and special districts. Texas’ property tax burden has grown from approximately 1 percent of value in the early 1980s to nearly 3 percent today.


Us idiots out here in California, another region that was once a province of Spain, then Mexico passed a measure (Prop. 13) in 1978 to limit property taxes to 1 percent of assessed value, held constant from each buyers purchase. "Value" can't be changed by more than a 2% annual adjustment.

We are pretty stupid, but occasionally do something right. The left have continually tried to reverse it, but have not yet succeeded.

Do Texas voters have the ability to pass initiatives, or do Texas legislators have the will to limit local revenues, by restricting value changes?
Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: rb224315 on June 03, 2014, 06:41:43 pm
As mentioned, this is typical of liberals.  They make a hellhole of their communities, notice how much better things are in communities where conservative policies are implemented, then promptly move there and keep voting for the same policies that caused them to move in the first place.  Rinse & repeat.
Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: Relic on June 03, 2014, 06:44:41 pm
Universal suffrage in action...

I didn't know what that meant, now I do. If you are stupid, you will suffer, and that's universal.
Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: Relic on June 03, 2014, 06:45:27 pm
They will be in even worse shape by the time Obama and his progressive/liberal friends are finished with them.

Watching liberals suffer is all I have left. So, I'm going to enjoy it to the hilt.
Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: GourmetDan on June 03, 2014, 06:46:31 pm
I didn't know what that meant, now I do. If you are stupid, you will suffer, and that's universal.

Unfortunately, universal suffrage means that a lot of people who aren't stupid get to suffer too...


Title: Re: Liberal Austin homeowners surprised to find they have to pay all the taxes they voted for
Post by: Relic on June 03, 2014, 06:49:17 pm
Unfortunately, universal suffrage means that a lot of people who aren't stupid get to suffer too...

Yes. But, generally speaking, it will be the ant and the grasshopper. Most conservatives are ant-like, and will weather the coming long hard winter. But, we will have to be armed, because the liberal grasshoppers won't simply lie down and die. They'll come to take what we have stored.