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Title: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you do t
Post by: mystery-ak on June 19, 2019, 01:21:08 am
Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you do that' before?
By Marina Pitofsky - 06/18/19 08:46 PM EDT


Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you do that' before?
© Aaron Schwartz

Donald Trump Jr. slammed 2020 candidate Joe Biden (D) on Tuesday for announcing last week that he wants his presidential administration to cure cancer.

Addressing the crowd at President Trump’s 2020 campaign kickoff rally in Orlando, Fla., the president's eldest son called out Biden for his decades in Washington as a lawmaker and as vice president, questioning why he had not pushed to find a cure before.

“What was the good one last week? Remember Joe Biden comes out? 'Well, if you elect me president, I’m going to cure cancer,'” Trump said. “Wow, why the hell didn’t you do that over the last 50 years, Joe?”
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Curing the disease has been a priority for Biden since his son, Beau, died in 2015 following a battle with brain cancer.

“I’ve worked so hard in my career that I promise you, if I’m elected president, you’re going to see the single most important thing that changes America: We’re going to cure cancer," Biden said last week while on the campaign trail in Iowa.

Biden oversaw the “Cancer Moonshot” when he served in the Obama administration. Its stated goal was “To make a decade’s worth of advances in cancer prevention, diagnosis, and treatment, in five years.”

Biden has also overseen the Biden Cancer initiative, but he stepped down after announcing his presidential campaign.

The former vice president has been leading polls of the crowded Democratic presidential field as he seeks to win his party's nomination to take on Trump in 2020.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/449228-trump-jr-mocks-biden-for-saying-he-plans-to-cure-cancer-as
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: libertybele on June 19, 2019, 01:55:36 am
Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you do that' before?
By Marina Pitofsky - 06/18/19 08:46 PM EDT


Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you do that' before?
© Aaron Schwartz

Donald Trump Jr. slammed 2020 candidate Joe Biden (D) on Tuesday for announcing last week that he wants his presidential administration to cure cancer.

Addressing the crowd at President Trump’s 2020 campaign kickoff rally in Orlando, Fla., the president's eldest son called out Biden for his decades in Washington as a lawmaker and as vice president, questioning why he had not pushed to find a cure before.

“What was the good one last week? Remember Joe Biden comes out? 'Well, if you elect me president, I’m going to cure cancer,'” Trump said. “Wow, why the hell didn’t you do that over the last 50 years, Joe?”ADVERTISEMENT

Curing the disease has been a priority for Biden since his son, Beau, died in 2015 following a battle with brain cancer.

“I’ve worked so hard in my career that I promise you, if I’m elected president, you’re going to see the single most important thing that changes America: We’re going to cure cancer," Biden said last week while on the campaign trail in Iowa.

Biden oversaw the “Cancer Moonshot” when he served in the Obama administration. Its stated goal was “To make a decade’s worth of advances in cancer prevention, diagnosis, and treatment, in five years.”

Biden has also overseen the Biden Cancer initiative, but he stepped down after announcing his presidential campaign.

The former vice president has been leading polls of the crowded Democratic presidential field as he seeks to win his party's nomination to take on Trump in 2020.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/449228-trump-jr-mocks-biden-for-saying-he-plans-to-cure-cancer-as

This IMHO was uncalled for and a low blow; Biden's son died from cancer and I see this as a very sensitive subject and should be off limits from mockery.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 19, 2019, 02:08:10 am
This IMHO was uncalled for and a low blow; Biden's son died from cancer and I see this as a very sensitive subject and should be off limits from mockery.
Well, you have to understand:

Now that the re-election campaign has kicked off, we've gone from the modestly restrained Presidency Trump of the past 2½ years back to Campaign Trump, the callous, obnoxious <expletive>. We're going to see a lot more of this classless trash talk over the next year and a half, picking needless fights and insulting everyone around him.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: libertybele on June 19, 2019, 02:12:24 am
Well, you have to understand:

Now that the re-election campaign has kicked off, we've gone from the modestly restrained Presidency Trump of the past 2½ years back to Campaign Trump, the callous, obnoxious <expletive>. We're going to see a lot more of this classless trash talk over the next year and a half, picking needless fights and insulting everyone around him.

??? It wasn't our POTUS that slung the mud, but his son.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: DCPatriot on June 19, 2019, 02:13:17 am
This IMHO was uncalled for and a low blow; Biden's son died from cancer and I see this as a very sensitive subject and should be off limits from mockery.

Buckle up, @libertybele

Thank God, that ship has sailed.   
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: DCPatriot on June 19, 2019, 02:14:38 am
??? It wasn't our POTUS that slung the mud, but his son.

Shhh...... he's on a roll.    :laugh:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: libertybele on June 19, 2019, 02:22:44 am
Buckle up, @libertybele

Thank God, that ship has sailed.

Ya, I know ... those days are over, BUT, I would like to see our POTUS  hold back a little maintaining the dignity and respect of the presidency and setting a good example, while Uncle Joe and the other liberal mental midgets make complete azzzes out of themselves.  He can rise above it all IF he wants to.  I know, that's a big IF.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 19, 2019, 02:43:44 am
??? It wasn't our POTUS that slung the mud, but his son.
They're all connected, obviously. A campaign is not one person.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: bigheadfred on June 19, 2019, 03:11:43 am
They have a cure for cancer.

Ain't no money in it.

Italian researchers found a way several years ago to pull the mask off from cancer cells and then a person's immune system would kill it.

Look up cadherin-22.

I doubt the article detailing that they had found a way to deal with that protein is available now. I ain't gonna look.

Ain't no money in a cure.

Yo, Joe, you stooopid f***,  there are 150 million shotguns pointed at you and your mouth.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on June 19, 2019, 03:15:23 am
As far as I can tell, Trump Jr. didn't say a word about Biden's son.  He - quite properly - mocked Biden himself for making a transparantly ridiculous campaign promise that he'll never be able to keep.

I'm glad he said it, and I hope that is symptomatic of a campaign that won't let the Dems get away with their typical schtick of promising voters free/impossible stuff they'll never be able to deliver.

Or should Republicans just let people believe that we don't dispute Biden's claim that he'll cure cancer?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 19, 2019, 11:20:42 am
Shhh...... he's on a roll.    :laugh:
Kimmelweck, to be specific.  ****drummer
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Applewood on June 19, 2019, 01:11:40 pm
Like father, like son, I guess. 

And I don't care which one said it or whether Biden's son was mentioned -- it was a rotten thing to say.  By the way, while such nasty rhetoric might wow Trump's fans, voters like me don't want to hear candidates insulting each other.  I want to hear what the candidates are going to do about the issues this country faces. 

Oh, and if we want to talk about unfulfilled campaign promises -- what about the ones Trump made in 2016 which he did not deliver on?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: DCPatriot on June 19, 2019, 01:56:13 pm
Kimmelweck, to be specific.  ****drummer

@jmyrlefuller

What the hell?  What do you know about "Kimmelweck"?   :laugh:


Roast beef sandwich on Kimmelweck is a Buffalo, NY favorite.  You'd think Wegman's would carry them, being headquartered in Rochester, NY. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on June 19, 2019, 02:07:28 pm

  I want to hear what the candidates are going to do about the issues this country faces.

Like "I'm going to cure cancer".  Great.  Maybe Trump should promise to develop a faster than light space ship to colonize new worlds.  And of course, you'd oppose anyone mocking him for saying something so ridiculous....

Great campaign you envision there.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 19, 2019, 03:22:55 pm
This IMHO was uncalled for and a low blow; Biden's son died from cancer and I see this as a very sensitive subject and should be off limits from mockery.

That train left the station the moment Daddy made it a campaign issue.  No campaign issues should be off the table.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: EdJames on June 19, 2019, 03:24:22 pm
When you are dealing with POS skunk like biteme, nothing is off limits.

That bastard needs to be destroyed.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Rivergirl on June 19, 2019, 03:42:38 pm
Sad to see folks defending that other stable genius, DTJr.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 19, 2019, 04:01:59 pm
It's sad to see people willing to give Rats a pass for saying stupid stuff. :shrug:

No more fighting with one arm tied behind our backs!
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 19, 2019, 04:17:11 pm
Sad to see folks defending that other stable genius, DTJr.

He's the world's oldest teenager. Does he have any identity or accomplishments of his own?
- has Daddy's name,
- attended Daddy's college (thanks to Daddy's timely generous donation to Penn),
- committed adultery like Daddy,   
- got divorced while having young children like Daddy,
- employed by Daddy's company,
- worked on Daddy's TV show,
- now making political speeches because of Daddy,
- contemplating a future in politics--like Daddy.

Bemusing.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Applewood on June 19, 2019, 04:32:17 pm
When you are dealing with POS skunk like biteme, nothing is off limits.

That bastard needs to be destroyed.

That attitude might wow Trump fans, but it's not what most non-fans want to hear.  What's with Trump and his fans that everyone opposed to him is an enemy to be annihilated?  I guess since I'm not a Trump fan, I have to be destroyed too?  WTH?

If I had cancer, I would probably want the candidate who might offer hope in finding a cure.  I wouldn't want the guy who calls his opponent names for promising a cure.  Does Trump have anything to offer relevant to curing cancer?  Seems to me all he has are  childish insults. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Applewood on June 19, 2019, 04:34:06 pm
It's sad to see people willing to give Rats a pass for saying stupid stuff. :shrug:

No more fighting with one arm tied behind our backs!

To me it's sad Trump fans are ok with Trump saying and doing stupid stuff too. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: EdJames on June 19, 2019, 04:38:54 pm
That attitude might wow Trump fans, but it's not what most non-fans want to hear.  What's with Trump and his fans that everyone opposed to him is an enemy to be annihilated?  I guess since I'm not a Trump fan, I have to be destroyed too?  WTH?

If I had cancer, I would probably want the candidate who might offer hope in finding a cure.  I wouldn't want the guy who calls his opponent names for promising a cure.  Does Trump have anything to offer relevant to curing cancer?  Seems to me all he has are  childish insults.

:bigsilly:
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Applewood on June 19, 2019, 04:44:42 pm
Well, I'm glad my post amused you @EdJames
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: edpc on June 19, 2019, 05:04:26 pm
Well, Jr is also the idiot who invited Russians into Trump Tower and thinks his father is the most mistreated person in US history.


Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr

He’s right. https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/1140422777217978370 …

Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT

"There's never been a time in the history of our country where somebody was so mistreated as I have been," Trump tells @GStephanopoulos
 
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Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 19, 2019, 05:08:19 pm
To me it's sad Trump fans are ok with Trump saying and doing stupid stuff too.

The Trumps deservedly get push-back when they say stupid stuff, while the Republicans aren't supposed to do the same with Rats?  That's what I call fighting with one arm tied back.

No.

ETA:  I'm neither a "Trump fan" nor a "Trump detractor."
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: FeelNoPain on June 19, 2019, 05:12:24 pm
Well, Jr is also the idiot who invited Russians into Trump Tower and thinks his father is the most mistreated person in US history.


Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr

He’s right. https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/1140422777217978370 …

Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT

"There's never been a time in the history of our country where somebody was so mistreated as I have been," Trump tells @GStephanopoulos
 
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7:37 AM - Jun 17, 2019


Didn't conservatives used to mock such perpetual victimhood? "Toughen up, buttercup," and whatnot?
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 19, 2019, 05:18:43 pm
Didn't conservatives used to mock such perpetual victimhood? "Toughen up, buttercup," and whatnot?

I think everybody needs to "toughen up."  That includes Republicans as well as Rats.  Same rules, level field.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on June 19, 2019, 05:25:58 pm

If I had cancer, I would probably want the candidate who might offer hope in finding a cure.  I wouldn't want the guy who calls his opponent names for promising a cure.  Does Trump have anything to offer relevant to curing cancer?  Seems to me all he has are  childish insults.

Damn -- this is Exhibit A for why Jr. needed to say exactly what he said -- to try to slap some sense into people who think such a worthless promise has any value.

1) It isn't the job of the President to cure cancer, and it isn't within his power to do so.  Cancer is an incredibly complex disease, and whatever cures are found are going to largely be specific to certain types.  He's deliberately offering false hope to capitalize on the fear cancer strikes into people.  He knows he can't cure it, but he's promising it anyway.

2) Jr.'s response was perfect because it spotlighted how we all know it's a worthless promise.  "Hey Joe, if you know how to go about curing cancer, why didn't you bring this up at some prior point in the last half century you've been in politics?"  There is no conceivable response to that question that doesn't expose Biden as a fraud. 

He was freaking Vice-President for 8 years, and by my recollection, he didn't accomplish a damn thing.  He didn't even have a pet cause he advanced as First Ladies do.  So why didn't he  spring his "I'm going to cure cancer" plan on everyone then?  Again, no possible answer that doesn't expose him as the lying fraud he's always been.  The guy who'll say whatever he thinks people want to hear so everyone will like him, and hopefully not look too closely behind that smile.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on June 19, 2019, 05:28:34 pm
Didn't conservatives used to mock such perpetual victimhood? "Toughen up, buttercup," and whatnot?

A slight difference you seem to be overlooking.

Conservatives tell people who perpetually whine about their hurt feelings to toughen up.

The attacks on Trump aren't about "hurt feelings".  They have been part of a coordinated effort to try to cripple his legal and practical authority as President via bogus court actions, a political witch hunt using the power of federal agencies, legal intimidation of and threats made to anyone who supports him politically, etc..  It's essentially trying to overturn an election.

So again...not just hurt feeling.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 19, 2019, 05:29:39 pm
If I had cancer, I would probably want the candidate who might offer hope in finding a cure.  I wouldn't want the guy who calls his opponent names for promising a cure.  Does Trump have anything to offer relevant to curing cancer?  Seems to me all he has are  childish insults.

I don't know if you watched Trump's speech last night, but curing cancer, along with AIDS and other diseases was in his list of things he wants done.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: GrouchoTex on June 19, 2019, 05:59:40 pm
Damn -- this is Exhibit A for why Jr. needed to say exactly what he said -- to try to slap some sense into people who think such a worthless promise has any value.

1) It isn't the job of the President to cure cancer, and it isn't within his power to do so.  Cancer is an incredibly complex disease, and whatever cures are found are going to largely be specific to certain types.  He's deliberately offering false hope to capitalize on the fear cancer strikes into people.  He knows he can't cure it, but he's promising it anyway.

2) Jr.'s response was perfect because it spotlighted how we all know it's a worthless promise.  "Hey Joe, if you know how to go about curing cancer, why didn't you bring this up at some prior point in the last half century you've been in politics?"  There is no conceivable response to that question that doesn't expose Biden as a fraud. 

He was freaking Vice-President for 8 years, and by my recollection, he didn't accomplish a damn thing.  He didn't even have a pet cause he advanced as First Ladies do.  So why didn't he  spring his "I'm going to cure cancer" plan on everyone then?  Again, no possible answer that doesn't expose him as the lying fraud he's always been.  The guy who'll say whatever he thinks people want to hear so everyone will like him, and hopefully not look too closely behind that smile.

Well said @Maj. Bill Martin

Asking why Biden hadn't done so until now is a legitimate question, which, as you have pointed out, he cannot cure cancer anyway.
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: Applewood on June 19, 2019, 06:03:53 pm
I don't know if you watched Trump's speech last night, but curing cancer, along with AIDS and other diseases was in his list of things he wants done.

Stopped watching presidential drivel when Obama came to power.  If Trump said those things, then great!  But I wish he and Junior just stopped there, rather than try to "destroy" Biden. 
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: berdie on June 19, 2019, 08:49:01 pm
Well said @Maj. Bill Martin

Asking why Biden hadn't done so until now is a legitimate question, which, as you have pointed out, he cannot cure cancer anyway.


It is a legitimate question. Why hold out hope to people when you really don't have an answer? Biden may want to...but it's way too complicated .
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: EdJames on June 19, 2019, 09:14:01 pm
Stopped watching presidential drivel when Obama came to power.  If Trump said those things, then great!  But I wish he and Junior just stopped there, rather than try to "destroy" Biden.

Look, you need to embrace reality.  Whether you like it or not, in the 2020 election either of two things are going to happen:

1.  Trump will DESTROY Biden or whichever other piece of garbage the Dems put up against him, or,
2.  Biden or whichever other piece of garbage the Dems put up against him will DESTROY Trump.

That is how it works now, like it or not.

I don't know about you, but I prefer seeing Trump DESTROY Biden or whichever other piece of garbage the Dems put up against him.

There are many things that bother me about Trump, that is why I am a (Certified) TrumpRealist and not an AlwaysTrumper, but it isn't even close as to which outcome I want to see in 2020.

(BTW: I'm no fan of Trump, Jr., but he was spot on in attacking that filthy piece of trash for the very reasons that Major Bill pointed out above.)
Title: Re: Trump Jr. mocks Biden for saying he plans to cure cancer as president: 'Why the hell didn't you
Post by: bigheadfred on June 20, 2019, 11:32:46 am
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