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Title: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mystery-ak on May 06, 2020, 01:14:22 am
 washingtonexaminer.com
'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jail and fined $3,000 for opening business
by Spencer Neale  | May 05, 2020 08:43 PM


Texas businesses hoping to reopen their shuttered storefronts might be in for a rude and costly awakening.

Dallas hair salon owner Shelley Luther was sentenced to seven days in prison and charged with thousands of dollars in penalties on Tuesday after she decided to open her business amid an executive order from Republican Gov. Greg Abbott to remain closed.

Judge Eric Moye lashed out at Luther, accusing her of placing her ideas of liberty and freedom above the welfare of the Texan people.

"That you now see the error of your ways and understand that the society cannot function when one's own belief in a concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials," Moye said. "That you owe an apology to the elected officials for whom you disrespected for flagrantly ignoring and, in one case, defiling their orders, which you now know obviously applies to you."

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/feeding-my-kids-is-not-selfish-defiant-texas-salon-owner-sentenced-to-seven-days-in-jail-and-fined-3-000-for-opening-business (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/feeding-my-kids-is-not-selfish-defiant-texas-salon-owner-sentenced-to-seven-days-in-jail-and-fined-3-000-for-opening-business)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: EdinVA on May 06, 2020, 01:23:28 am
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Re-Elect Judge Moyé
 Democrat
 14th Civil District Court
 Dallas County


http://judgemoye.com/about-judge-moye.html (http://judgemoye.com/about-judge-moye.html)

Figures....
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: roamer_1 on May 06, 2020, 01:38:54 am
This is a travesty, and she should appeal.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 06, 2020, 03:25:46 am
Dallas salon owner who reopened despite coronavirus restrictions gets 7 days in jail
Fox News, May 5, 2020

A Texas salon owner was given seven days in jail on Tuesday after she refused to apologize for defying coronavirus related restrictions by remaining open for business.

Dallas business owner Shelley Luther was given a choice: She could offer an apology for selfishness, pay a fine and shutdown until Friday, or serve jail time.

"I have to disagree with you, sir, when you say that I'm selfish because feeding my kids is not selfish," she told the judge. "I have hairstylists that are going hungry because they would rather feed their kids. So sir, if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision. But I am not going to shut the salon."

After her refusal to show contrition, bailiffs led her away to be booked. Her sentence reportedly symbolizes the seven-days she stayed open, despite county regulations.

Luther had been cited by city officials but chose to ignore the warnings. She must also now pay a $7,000 fine.

Gov. Greg Abbott held a press conference Tuesday about the reopening of barbershops and salons, which is set to take place on Friday.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/dallas-salon-owner-reopened-coronavirus-restrictions-jail (https://www.foxnews.com/us/dallas-salon-owner-reopened-coronavirus-restrictions-jail)

Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 06, 2020, 03:28:26 am
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She could offer an apology for selfishness, pay a fine and shutdown until Friday, or serve jail time.

"An apology for selfishness" --- this makes my blood run cold.  What the hell is happening in the United States?
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 06, 2020, 03:32:36 am
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.@GregAbbott_TX people around you talk about "criminal justice reform." Well, if its good enough for gang-bangers and meth traffickers, it's good enough for #ShelleyLuther #pardonshelleyluther— Daniel Horowitz (@RMConservative) May 6, 2020

https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1257836499573313536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 06, 2020, 03:35:07 am
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7 days in jail for cutting hair?? This is NUTS. And government officials don’t get to order citizens to apologize to them for daring to earn a living. https://t.co/3rulRlN0gE— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) May 6, 2020

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1257840863197179905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Call the Governor, Senator.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 06, 2020, 03:39:29 am
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/shelley-luther-fund

$128,293 raised of $250,000 goal

3.3K
donors

7.8K
shares

3.2K
followers
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 06, 2020, 03:52:08 am
"An apology for selfishness" --- this makes my blood run cold.  What the hell is happening in the United States?


DITTO.  That is a liberal JUDGE.  They are all nuts. POWER HUNGRY. 
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mortarman on May 06, 2020, 09:14:49 am

DITTO.  That is a liberal JUDGE.  They are all nuts. POWER HUNGRY.

Left-wing Fascist's beliebe they are the only ones who should have total authority over our lives. Time for the "Tree of Liberty" to be fed.

 :pop41:
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Applewood on May 06, 2020, 11:22:11 am
I've said it elsewhere -- it's nuts to keep these salons closed, allegedly because they are unsafe since stylists can't practice social distancing.  I had a doctor appointment yesterday -- he examined me up close and personal.  He and I both wore masks and all other precautions were taken.  So if he can practice medicine without social distancing, but taking all other precautions,  why can't a salon do the same?

At least Texas is going to open their salons.  My state isn't even talking about a timetable for opening.  Stupid liberal fascists.

As an aside -- I don't trust GoFundMe, so I'm going to look for a more reliable way of donating to the salon or Miss Luther directly.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 06, 2020, 11:58:08 am
Where is Abbott with all of this?

Does he support jail time?
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Elderberry on May 06, 2020, 01:09:50 pm
Dallas Salon Owner Shelley Luther Fined and Jailed

Texas Scorecard By Robert Montoya May 5, 2020

https://texasscorecard.com/metroplex/dallas-salon-owner-shelley-luther-fined-and-jailed/ (https://texasscorecard.com/metroplex/dallas-salon-owner-shelley-luther-fined-and-jailed/)

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Luther’s hearing on the temporary restraining order—in Dallas County’s 14th District Court, presided over by District Judge Eric Moye—was held on May 5. Luther’s supporters gathered outside the court.

That same day, Abbott announced at a press conference that cosmetology salons, barber shops, and other related businesses could reopen on May 8 with restrictions.

Moye resumed the hearing after Abbott’s announcement and said a writ of mandamus appeal filed by Luther’s attorney, Warren Norred, had been denied.

“Hopefully, this experience has brought you to the realization that because you believe there’s something you want to do, you do not have the right to independently supersede state law,” Moye told Luther.

Moye then gave Luther an opportunity to decide the level of her own punishment by apologizing.

    “If you would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge that your actions were selfish, putting your own interests ahead of those in the community in which you live; that they disrespected the executive orders of the state, the orders of the county, and this city; that you now see the error of your ways and understand that the society cannot function when one’s own belief in the concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials; that you owe an apology to the elected officials who you disrespected by flagrantly ignoring and, in one case, defiling their orders which you now know obviously regard to you; that you know the proper way in an ordered society to engage concerns you may have had is to hire a lawyer and advocate for change, an exception, or amendment to laws that you find offensive.”

Luther stood up and spoke in reply:

    “I have to disagree with you, sir, when you say that I’m selfish, because feeding my kids is not selfish. I have hair stylists that are going hungry because they’d rather feed their kids. So, sir, if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision, but I am not going to shut the salon.”

Upon hearing that, Moye handed down his judgement.

“It is hereby ordered, judged, and decreed the defendant Shelley Luther having been found in criminal contempt of this court is hereby remanded to the custody of the Sheriff of Dallas County as punishment for her violation of this court’s order,” he said.

Luther must serve seven days for criminal contempt of court and seven days for civil contempt of court, both to be served concurrently. The location of her imprisonment will be decided by the Dallas County sheriff.

Concerned citizens may sign a petition asking Abbott to pardon Luther. (https://action.empowertexans.com/bXbk3Hv)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: catfish1957 on May 06, 2020, 01:34:48 pm
Where is Abbott with all of this?

Does he support jail time?

Last I heard, Abbott's is pretty much full time responding to County Judge's requests for clarifcation of his Re-open plan.
AG is probably the one who should be weighing in.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: cato potatoe on May 06, 2020, 02:17:58 pm
The last thing hairdressers want is to spread disease among customers.  Our governor is a complete idiot.  We have experienced 46 deaths per million, and in response, he has thrown 20% of the work force into unemployment.

Taxpayers should just ignore the shutdown orders.  I paid my barber cash for a house call this morning, and am negotiating with other "non essential" human beings as needed.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mountaineer on May 06, 2020, 02:22:05 pm
Democrat Dallas Judge Eric Moye Who Sentenced Shelley Luther to 7 Days in Jail for Opening Her Hair Salon Is an Obama Loyalist
By Joe Hoft
Published May 6, 2020 at 7:38am

Of course he is – Dallas Judge Eric Moye is a Democrat and an Obama faithful.
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Obama-Judge-600x600.jpg)

More from Gateway Pundit (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/democrat-dallas-judge-eric-moye-sentenced-shelley-luther-7-days-jail-opening-hair-salon-obama-loyalist/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: skeeter on May 06, 2020, 02:23:07 pm
The last thing hairdressers want is to spread disease among customers.  Our governor is a complete idiot.  We have experienced 46 deaths per million, and in response, he has thrown 20% of the work force into unemployment.

Taxpayers should just ignore the shutdown orders.  I paid my barber cash for a house call this morning, and am negotiating with other "non essential" human beings as needed.

We're at the point now where there is no more risk of infection today than there has been every year at this time of year. It's complete insanity and a perfect example of how dangerous bureaucrats and politicians are.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Mod1 on May 06, 2020, 02:32:01 pm
Merged threads
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 06, 2020, 03:29:22 pm
We're at the point now where there is no more risk of infection today than there has been every year at this time of year. It's complete insanity and a perfect example of how dangerous bureaucrats and politicians are.

How many times must this be proven?  I've come to detest most Judges, because they are the reason the legal system is too byzantine for us poor schlubs to understand to the point of being required to hire a lawyer for the most simple of cases.  Judges like this clown won't hear pro per cases fairly.  If you show up in court without a lawyer, they will simply ignore your arguments and find against you, even if you have an airtight case.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: EdinVA on May 06, 2020, 03:48:23 pm
How many times must this be proven?  I've come to detest most Judges, because they are the reason the legal system is too byzantine for us poor schlubs to understand to the point of being required to hire a lawyer for the most simple of cases.  Judges like this clown won't hear pro per cases fairly.  If you show up in court without a lawyer, they will simply ignore your arguments and find against you, even if you have an airtight case.

Exactly... The accuser (government) is the one required to have the air tight case, not the accused... somewhere we got all crossed up
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: GrouchoTex on May 06, 2020, 03:55:09 pm
Embarrassed that some judge in my own state did this.

I hope she sues and wins.

I hope she wins enough that she only has to cut hair if she wants to.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: GrouchoTex on May 06, 2020, 03:58:53 pm
"An apology for selfishness" --- this makes my blood run cold.  What the hell is happening in the United States?

That part bothered the hell out of me, too.
I am glad she did not do that.
No one should ever have to apologize for LEGALLY providing for their families.
She had a license to cut hair from the State (which is also a scam), so she should have been able to, like anyone else, us discretion and common sense and be allowed to do her job.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: EdinVA on May 06, 2020, 06:39:29 pm
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Texas (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/us-regions/southwest/texas) Attorney General Ken Paxton on Wednesday sent a letter urging a Dallas (https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/dallas-fort-worth) judge to free a woman he sent to jail a day earlier after she refused to apologize for keeping her hair salon open in violation of Gov. Greg Abbott's order aimed at slowing the spread of the coronavirus (https://www.foxnews.com/category/health/infectious-disease/coronavirus).
Soon after, Abbott said he agreed with his attorney general on the matter.
Paxton, whose office said Shelly Luther was "unjustly jailed" in a release, told Dallas County State District Judge Eric Moyé that he had abused his discretion and emphasized that the woman was keeping her business open in order to feed her family.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-ag-tells-judge-to-free-dallas-woman-unjustly-jailed-for-operating-salon (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-ag-tells-judge-to-free-dallas-woman-unjustly-jailed-for-operating-salon)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Applewood on May 06, 2020, 06:42:56 pm
bravo to AG Paxton.     :yowsa:
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 06, 2020, 07:04:57 pm
Fat chance of the Judge re-sentencing her.  He did it to make an example out of somebody who doesn't Respect Mah Authoritah!  It's a matter of pride and principle.  If the Governor wants to do something about this, he'll have to Pardon her.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 06, 2020, 07:42:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXWjPzUU8AA21B5.jpg)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 06, 2020, 07:43:09 pm
(https://theoldschoolpatriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ShelleyLutherLetter-page-001.jpg)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mystery-ak on May 06, 2020, 07:47:24 pm
Texas governor calls for immediate release of salon owner jailed for defying coronavirus restrictions
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/496440-texas-governor-calls-for-immediate-release-of-jailed-salon-owner
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 06, 2020, 07:56:45 pm
This "Judge" doesn't care, and will not release her over this announcement.  My humble opinion based on no special knowledge.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mystery-ak on May 06, 2020, 08:11:03 pm
GoFundMe amount soars for new American hero, salon owner Shelley Luther after 7k in fines and jail

A GoFundMe page set up for Dallas salon owner Shelley Luther has raised over $273,000 in funds from supporters who want to help her with the $7,000 fine and other costs she has incurred after she “decided to resist tyranny” by defying county orders and opening her salon for business in order to feed her family.

more
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/06/gofundme-amount-soars-for-new-american-hero-salon-owner-shelley-luther-after-7k-in-fines-and-jail-917703 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/06/gofundme-amount-soars-for-new-american-hero-salon-owner-shelley-luther-after-7k-in-fines-and-jail-917703)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LadyLiberty on May 06, 2020, 09:02:11 pm
The Judge Who Locked Up the Dallas Salon Owner Has a History of Violence

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-05-06-the-judge-who-locked-up-the-dallas-salon-owner-has-a-history-of-violence/?fbclid=IwAR0LfsfR_3L-hhie_rmNOBErRn8IRuLTytYxm5ahbmmQblgZDjmthm-gtxk (https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-05-06-the-judge-who-locked-up-the-dallas-salon-owner-has-a-history-of-violence/?fbclid=IwAR0LfsfR_3L-hhie_rmNOBErRn8IRuLTytYxm5ahbmmQblgZDjmthm-gtxk)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Applewood on May 06, 2020, 09:14:00 pm
Looks like this judge just stepped in it.  Good.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: catfish1957 on May 06, 2020, 09:20:37 pm
Looks like this judge just stepped in it.  Good.

This dispicable judge's statement bears repeating ....

That you now see the error of your ways and understand that the society cannot function when one's own belief in a concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials," Moye said. "That you owe an apology to the elected officials for whom you disrespected for flagrantly ignoring and, in one case, defiling their orders, which you now know obviously applies to you."

When the level condescencion reaches this level, you know it is time to take drastic action to take the country back.  Hope the good folks in Dallas provide this judge a little welcoming committee each time he makes it to his courthouse.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 06, 2020, 10:45:25 pm
This dispicable judge's statement bears repeating ....

That you now see the error of your ways and understand that the society cannot function when one's own belief in a concept of liberty permits you to flaunt your disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials," Moye said. "That you owe an apology to the elected officials for whom you disrespected for flagrantly ignoring and, in one case, defiling their orders, which you now know obviously applies to you."

When the level condescencion reaches this level, you know it is time to take drastic action to take the country back.  Hope the good folks in Dallas provide this judge a little welcoming committee each time he makes it to his courthouse.
Nowhere in that statement does the judge affirm those 'duly elected officials' have the constitutional power to enact those orders.

Let's throw that back at that tyrant.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 06, 2020, 10:46:20 pm
I presume the Bailiff remanded her directly to the Sheriff, and went straight to jail.  If Abbot is a "stand-up guy," she would have been Pardoned by now.  I have not seen a story that she was Pardoned, so the Governor doesn't appear to be a stand-up guy.

GoFundMe's well over $300,000 now.  That will help.  I'll bet she donates it to somebody, after spiffing up the shop.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 06, 2020, 10:49:26 pm
Just looked this up as it is likely we will see one or all being activated on this tyrant

Methods of Judicial Selection: Texas
Removal of Judges

Texas judges may be removed in one of four ways:
The state commission on judicial conduct investigates, and if warranted, prosecutes allegations of misconduct by Texas judges. Upon a commission recommendation of removal or retirement, the supreme court selects a review tribunal from among court of appeals judges to verify the findings and enter a judgment. Judges may appeal decisions of the review tribunal to the supreme court.

Judges may be removed by the governor on the address of two thirds of the house and senate.

Judges may be impeached by the house of representatives and removed by two thirds of the senate.

The supreme court may remove district court judges from office.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 06, 2020, 10:52:47 pm
Last I heard, Abbott's is pretty much full time responding to County Judge's requests for clarifcation of his Re-open plan.
AG is probably the one who should be weighing in.
Finally
AG Paxton, Gov. Abbott Call for Release of Jailed Dallas Salon Owner Who Defied Executive Order

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/ag-paxton-gov-abbott-call-for-release-of-dallas-salon-owner/2364608/ (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/ag-paxton-gov-abbott-call-for-release-of-dallas-salon-owner/2364608/)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LadyLiberty on May 06, 2020, 10:55:36 pm
I presume the Bailiff remanded her directly to the Sheriff, and went straight to jail.  If Abbot is a "stand-up guy," she would have been Pardoned by now.  I have not seen a story that she was Pardoned, so the Governor doesn't appear to be a stand-up guy.

GoFundMe's well over $300,000 now.  That will help.  I'll bet she donates it to somebody, after spiffing up the shop.

In Texas the governor cannot grant a pardon unless the Board of Pardons and Paroles votes first and agrees to the pardon with a majority vote.

This is why:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_A._Ferguson  You can skip down to the last paragraph of the views and policies section if you don't want to read the whole thing.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 06, 2020, 11:04:02 pm
Finally
AG Paxton, Gov. Abbott Call for Release of Jailed Dallas Salon Owner Who Defied Executive Order

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/ag-paxton-gov-abbott-call-for-release-of-dallas-salon-owner/2364608/ (https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavirus/ag-paxton-gov-abbott-call-for-release-of-dallas-salon-owner/2364608/)

Abbot and Paxton can "call for" it until the cows come home, and that pr*ck Judge will stand firm because he needs that scalp.  He must be impeached.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 07, 2020, 12:28:54 am
Abbot and Paxton can "call for" it until the cows come home, and that bleep Judge will stand firm because he needs that scalp.  He must be impeached.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,400841.msg2205522.html#msg2205522 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,400841.msg2205522.html#msg2205522)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 07, 2020, 12:31:42 am
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,400841.msg2205522.html#msg2205522 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,400841.msg2205522.html#msg2205522)

I vote, "Removed by Supreme Court."  It's faster, and he could be looking for one of those fabulous unemployment checks before she get out of jail.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Elderberry on May 07, 2020, 01:01:01 am
Rep. Crenshaw slams ‘small-minded leaders drunk with power’ for arresting business owner

American Military News by  Ryan Morgan  May 06, 2020

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/05/rep-crenshaw-slams-small-minded-leaders-drunk-with-power-for-arresting-business-owner/ (https://americanmilitarynews.com/2020/05/rep-crenshaw-slams-small-minded-leaders-drunk-with-power-for-arresting-business-owner/)

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Former U.S. Navy SEAL and Republican Congressman Dan Crenshaw slammed local governments for excessive punishments after Texas salon owner Shelley Luther was arrested and sentenced to jail for breaking coronavirus lockdown orders.

In a tweet, Crenshaw responded to a televised court proceeding broadcast over the Zoom teleconference service in which Luther said she would not apologize for opening her salon or the assertion that she was selfish for doing so. Luther was eventually sentenced, to which Crenshaw warned such punishments are “NOT just.”

“These punishments are NOT just. They are not reasonable,” Crenshaw tweeted. “Small-minded ‘leaders’ across the country have become drunk with power. This must end.”

More at link.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Elderberry on May 07, 2020, 01:32:34 am
Texans Rally to Free Jailed Salon Owner

Texas Scorecard by Robert Montoya May 6, 2020

https://texasscorecard.com/metroplex/texans-rally-to-free-jailed-salon-owner/ (https://texasscorecard.com/metroplex/texans-rally-to-free-jailed-salon-owner/)

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At a Wednesday morning rally in support of a North Texas businesswoman, grassroots activists and leaders demanded action from the governor.

The morning after a North Texas businesswoman was fined and imprisoned for daring to open her hair salon before governing authorities permitted it, grassroots activists and leaders gathered and demanded that Texas Gov. Greg Abbott pardon her. He has yet to do so and has alleged he can’t.

On Tuesday afternoon, Gov. Greg Abbott announced hair salons may open on May 8, with restrictions. But later that evening, Shelley Luther, owner of Salon A La Mode in Dallas, was sentenced by Judge Eric Moye to seven days in jail for criminal contempt of court and seven days for civil contempt of court; both sentences are to be served concurrently. Moye also fined Luther $500 a day for the seven days she has been open and will continue the daily fines until May 8.

“Sir, if you think the law is more important than kids getting fed, then please go ahead with your decision, but I am not going to shut the salon,” Luther told Moye when he offered her a lighter sentence if she’d apologize for being “selfish” when she reopened her salon earlier than allowed.

Since then, 23 members of the State Republican Executive Committee wrote an open letter asking Abbott to issue a pardon for Luther.

The next morning, grassroots activists and leaders gathered across the street from the very courthouse where Luther was sentenced, chanting, “Pardon Shelley Now!”

More at link.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 07, 2020, 01:36:05 am
Texans Rally to Free Jailed Salon Owner

Texas Scorecard by Robert Montoya May 6, 2020

https://texasscorecard.com/metroplex/texans-rally-to-free-jailed-salon-owner/ (https://texasscorecard.com/metroplex/texans-rally-to-free-jailed-salon-owner/)

 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Elderberry on May 07, 2020, 01:43:31 am
DEVELOPING: GOP leaders in Texas criticize judge who ordered Dallas salon owner jailed

6KFDM 5/6/2020

https://kfdm.com/news/local/developing-gop-leaders-in-texas-criticize-judge-who-ordered-dallas-salon-owner-jailed (https://kfdm.com/news/local/developing-gop-leaders-in-texas-criticize-judge-who-ordered-dallas-salon-owner-jailed)

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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sent a letter to the judge Wednesday asking him to release Luther from jail. U.S. Senator Ted Cruz also expressed support for her. Both are Republicans.

“I find it outrageous and out of touch that during this national pandemic, a judge, in a county that actually released hardened criminals for fear of contracting COVID-19, would jail a mother for operating her hair salon in an attempt to put food on her family’s table,” Paxton said.

Abbott called the salon owner’s punishment “excessive.”

“Compliance with executive orders during this pandemic is important to ensure public safety; however, surely there are less restrictive means to achieving that goal than jailing a Texas mother,” Abbott said in a statement.

In response, a letter to Paxton signed by Moye and the 11 other Dallas County civil district court judges called the attorney general’s letter to a judge about a pending case an improper communication under the Texas Code of Judicial Conduct. The judges told Paxton they “trust this shall not happen further.”

More at link.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 07, 2020, 03:21:37 am
DEVELOPING: GOP leaders in Texas criticize judge who ordered Dallas salon owner jailed

6KFDM 5/6/2020

https://kfdm.com/news/local/developing-gop-leaders-in-texas-criticize-judge-who-ordered-dallas-salon-owner-jailed (https://kfdm.com/news/local/developing-gop-leaders-in-texas-criticize-judge-who-ordered-dallas-salon-owner-jailed)

Maybe they'll be happier with a call from  the TX Supreme Court?

ETA:  The case is not a "Pending Case."  The judge sentenced the defendant, and carried out the sentence immediately.  End of pending.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 07, 2020, 03:25:31 am
Texas Lt. Gov. Patrick says he will pay salon owner's fine and take her place in jail so she can keep working
'7 days in jail, no bail and a $7K fine is outrageous'

Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick said that he would pay the $7,000 fine for a salon owner arrested for defying social distancing orders, and offered to be placed under house arrest to take her place in jail.

helley Luthor became the masked face of the anti-lockdown movement when she gave a passionate response to a judge demanding her to apologize and admit she was wrong to re-open her salon amidst the coronavirus pandemic.

"7 days in jail, no bail and a $7K fine is outrageous. No surprise Texans are responding," tweeted Patrick on Wednesday.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/dan-patrick-offers-to-pay-salon-owners-fine (https://www.theblaze.com/news/dan-patrick-offers-to-pay-salon-owners-fine)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 07, 2020, 03:39:35 am
Judge is a black male judge.  DEMOCRAT?  She is a beautiful white, blond woman.  RACIST, RACIST, JUDGE!  snark.

Love  Dan Bongino and my 4 J'S.  Unite America First.  This judge is a POS.

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Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 07, 2020, 04:06:18 am
Judge is a black male judge.  DEMOCRAT?  She is a beautiful white, blond woman.  RACIST, RACIST, JUDGE!  snark.

Love  Dan Bongino and my 4 J'S.  Unite America First.  This judge is a POS.

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Well @sneakypete I guess this explains what @LegalAmerican meant the other day.  Pretty telling.

I am all for the Salon owner but not sure how race factors into it?  I guess blond is important.  Maybe blue eyes too.  Eugenics anyone?

How do you feel about planned parenthood @LegalAmerican?
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: roamer_1 on May 07, 2020, 04:14:44 am
GoFundMe amount soars for new American hero, salon owner Shelley Luther after 7k in fines and jail

A GoFundMe page set up for Dallas salon owner Shelley Luther has raised over $273,000 in funds from supporters who want to help her with the $7,000 fine and other costs she has incurred after she “decided to resist tyranny” by defying county orders and opening her salon for business in order to feed her family.

more
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/06/gofundme-amount-soars-for-new-american-hero-salon-owner-shelley-luther-after-7k-in-fines-and-jail-917703 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/05/06/gofundme-amount-soars-for-new-american-hero-salon-owner-shelley-luther-after-7k-in-fines-and-jail-917703)

That's 'Take It To The Limit' money right there. And it's a beautiful thing.

Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: roamer_1 on May 07, 2020, 04:21:22 am
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Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 07, 2020, 05:20:28 am
The Judge Who Locked Up the Dallas Salon Owner Has a History of Violence

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-05-06-the-judge-who-locked-up-the-dallas-salon-owner-has-a-history-of-violence/?fbclid=IwAR0LfsfR_3L-hhie_rmNOBErRn8IRuLTytYxm5ahbmmQblgZDjmthm-gtxk (https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-05-06-the-judge-who-locked-up-the-dallas-salon-owner-has-a-history-of-violence/?fbclid=IwAR0LfsfR_3L-hhie_rmNOBErRn8IRuLTytYxm5ahbmmQblgZDjmthm-gtxk)


I guess my post was removed.  It is a male, black judge, and the woman is a pretty white, BLOND,  woman.  I said racist, racist Judge.  Why not?  We are always accused of it.  I say, THAT is his issue.  I hope he loses his position.  I would look at other cases too, by this man.  He has his OWN ISSUES TO DEAL WITH.  NOT TAKE IT OUT ON OTHERS.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: roamer_1 on May 07, 2020, 06:07:04 am

Well @sneakypete I guess this explains what @LegalAmerican meant the other day.  Pretty telling.

I am all for the Salon owner but not sure how race factors into it?  I guess blond is important.  Maybe blue eyes too.  Eugenics anyone?

How do you feel about planned parenthood @LegalAmerican?

Yeah. At least at this juncture, racism is a distraction from the blatant power grab and persecution under the color of law. That should indeed be the focus.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: sneakypete on May 07, 2020, 10:00:57 am

Well @sneakypete I guess this explains what @LegalAmerican meant the other day.  Pretty telling.

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I am all for the Salon owner but not sure how race factors into it?  I guess blond is important.  Maybe blue eyes too.  Eugenics anyone?

@Chosen Daughter

Beats me. I don't have a clue as to why her race or gender is relevant. Sure as hell isn't relevant to me. I don't care if she is green and has one eye at the end of  a stalk growing out of one of her ears.

I do care if she is a partisan Dim,though. There IS  a limit to how open-minded you can be before your mind falls out.


 
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 07, 2020, 10:37:14 am
I don't think Patrick can serve her sentence but he sure as heck trim some fingernails like nobody's business.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Elderberry on May 07, 2020, 12:02:25 pm
The Texas Minute for 5/7/2020 by Michael Quinn Sullivan

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•   After opening up her hair salon in defiance of orders from state, county, and city officials prohibiting the reopening of salons, Dallas small-business owner Shelley Luther was sentenced to seven days in jail on Tuesday without an opportunity for bond while appealing the decision, and she was assessed $7,000 in fines. As Brandon Waltens reports (https://email.empowertexans.com/t/d-l-mdrltjy-urdyljtid-j/), thousands of Texans have spoken out on social media  and elsewhere – urging Gov. Greg Abbott to take action.
     
•   But in a statement (https://email.empowertexans.com/t/d-l-mdrltjy-urdyljtid-t/) on Wednesday, Abbott declined to do so. He weakly expressed disagreement with the “excessive action” taken against her. Left unsaid was that Dallas officials were acting under color of Abbott’s own rules.
   
•   State Rep. Mike Lang (R-Granbury) didn’t pull any punches in responding to the governor. He wrote on Twitter: “In a nutshell, Gov. Abbott calls the actions of a Judge in Dallas excessive, when the Judge was acting based on Gov. Abbott’s order. Gov. Abbott is now upset that a private citizen is in jail for operating a private business, which is a consequence of his order.”
   
•   Meanwhile, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick and Attorney General Ken Paxton took strong stands in defense of Luther, urging her immediate release.
   
•   Paxton said the action against Luther (https://email.empowertexans.com/t/d-l-mdrltjy-urdyljtid-d/) was “a shameful abuse of judicial discretion, which seems like another political stunt in Dallas.” Separately, Patrick told Texas Scorecard’s Brandon Waltens during a press conference that he was willing to pay Luther’s fine and wanted her released. Patrick later tweeted: “I’m covering the $7K fine she had to pay and I volunteer to be placed under House Arrest so she can go to work and feed her kids.”
   
•   Robert Montoya reports on a rally in Dallas (https://email.empowertexans.com/t/d-l-mdrltjy-urdyljtid-k/) protesting the court action, as well as a letter 23 members (https://email.empowertexans.com/t/d-l-mdrltjy-urdyljtid-u/) of the State Republican Executive Committee sent the governor and attorney general.

•   Consider the irony of this entire situation. Over the last three months, Gov. Abbott has found the power to unilaterally shutdown Texas, collapse the state economy, and send 2.1 million Texans into unemployment. He even took time to regularly “applaud” over-the-top local actions implementing his orders.
   
•   Yet yesterday he told the media he simply did not have the power to pardon Shelley Luther.
 
•   We are to believe Gov. Abbott cannot get four of the seven gubernatorial appointees on the Texas Paroles and Pardons Board to let him pardon someone who has been unjustly deprived of her due process rights, as well as her liberty and property? Has he tried?
   
•   It would seem in Gov. Abbott’s Texas, accused drug dealers and rapists are more justly treated than a small bsuinesswoman trying to provide for her family and employees.
 
•   Putting a more personal face to the unemployment crisis brought on by state and local government officials, more than two-thirds of Texas Minute readers yesterday said they or someone close to them had lost a job.
   
•   With more than 2.1 million Texans out of work, there are a lot of hurting families around the state. It’s time to stop waiting for permission, Texans need to reopen Texas.

Number of the Day

$7,000​

Amount of money donated by Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick to a “GoFundMe” fundraising page setup to benefit Shelley Luther, paying the unjust fines levied by the Dallas court.

Quote-Unquote

“ ‘Emergencies’ have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded.”

– F.A. Hayek​
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mountaineer on May 07, 2020, 03:50:11 pm
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Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 07, 2020, 03:58:35 pm
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She should be out of the slammer by noon and enjoying her half-million, "if properly applied."  Why do I fear that leaves too much wiggle room for a crooked Judge?
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 07, 2020, 03:59:26 pm
Just breaking:  Texas Supreme Court orders her release from jail.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: skeeter on May 07, 2020, 04:00:20 pm
Just breaking:  Texas Supreme Court orders her release from jail.

My faith in the system is (partially) restored.

In Texas, at least.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mountaineer on May 07, 2020, 04:00:34 pm
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Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: catfish1957 on May 07, 2020, 04:01:18 pm
Just breaking:  Texas Supreme Court orders her release from jail.

Best outcome possible.

I am glad Abbott didn't get into a pissing match with that Lowlife Judge in Dallas.  He's above that.

SCOTX bitch slapped him good didn't they?
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 07, 2020, 04:03:40 pm
Now that same Supreme Court needs to look at removing the pugilist Judge.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: roamer_1 on May 07, 2020, 04:03:47 pm
There's still a $7k fine on the barrel head...
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Applewood on May 07, 2020, 04:07:54 pm
There's still a $7k fine on the barrel head...

Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick pays fine for salon owner who refused to close

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-salon-owner-shelley-luther-fine-paid-lt-governor-dan-patrick/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-salon-owner-shelley-luther-fine-paid-lt-governor-dan-patrick/)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Idiot on May 07, 2020, 04:12:01 pm
There's still a $7k fine on the barrel head...
I think the $500,000 in GoFundMe money should cover it...lol.  The judge should APOLOGIZE TO HER!
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mystery-ak on May 07, 2020, 04:17:16 pm
Texas Supreme Court orders release of salon owner jailed for reopening amid pandemic
By Kaelan Deese - 05/07/20 12:13 PM EDT

The Supreme Court of Texas on Thursday issued an order to release Shelley Luther, who was previously jailed for reopening her salon amid pandemic lockdown restrictions.

Luther's case has led to multiple Texas officials stepping up in her defense, calling her sentence by district court judge Eric Moyé a "shameful abuse of judicial discretion," Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said.

The order calls for a response to the request by May 11, by writ of habeas corpus still pending by the Court.

This is a developing story.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/496594-texas-supreme-court-orders-release-of-salon-owner-jailed-for-reopening
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Applewood on May 07, 2020, 04:18:56 pm
I think the $500,000 in GoFundMe money should cover it...lol.  The judge should APOLOGIZE TO HER!

Well, that won't happen.  This clown still thinks he did the right thing.  But now with new orders in place, thanks to Governor Abbott. perhaps his nonsense won't happen again.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: roamer_1 on May 07, 2020, 04:26:11 pm
Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick pays fine for salon owner who refused to close

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-salon-owner-shelley-luther-fine-paid-lt-governor-dan-patrick/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-salon-owner-shelley-luther-fine-paid-lt-governor-dan-patrick/)

That's good, but not right.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: roamer_1 on May 07, 2020, 04:27:30 pm
I think the $500,000 in GoFundMe money should cover it...lol. 

That's good too, but not right. It needs to be made right.

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The judge should APOLOGIZE TO HER!

That's right.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 07, 2020, 04:27:48 pm
Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick pays fine for salon owner who refused to close

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-salon-owner-shelley-luther-fine-paid-lt-governor-dan-patrick/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-salon-owner-shelley-luther-fine-paid-lt-governor-dan-patrick/)

Why?  He needed to vacate and expunge the penalty. 
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 07, 2020, 04:34:04 pm
Why?  He needed to vacate and expunge the penalty.

Abbot has shown a willingness to vacate the jail, but the $7K fine stands. And, as @roamer_1 rightly points out, that should be lifted as well, and the Judge needs to be forced to apologize to her for his dressing her down and demanding she apologize for feeding her kids, and the families of her employees.  After that, the Judge needs to be sacked, by whatever means the State of TX does it.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Applewood on May 07, 2020, 04:54:38 pm
Guys, in a perfect world, the judge would vacate the sentence, apologize and what not, but in the real world I doubt any of these things will ever happen.  So I for one am going to be grateful Miss Luther can go home to her family, reopen her shop and hopefully, get back to some kind of normalcy and maybe put this all behind her. 

While I've seen a lot of people step up and do good in a crisis, there will always be those who won't.    This judge showed no mercy.  Technically, he might have been right for enforcing a governor's order, but like most judges, he had some leeway as to how to deal with Miss Luther's situation.  He chose to be a hard *bleep*.  Well, I happen to think somewhere along the line, his callousness will come back upon him.  Someday, he might be looking for forgiveness or leniency himself and he may not get it. 

So I say, let it go.

Mods:  Sorry if the above borders on religion, but I happen to think most people, regardless of faith (or of no faith) know what I'm talking about and have a similar viewpoint.    But I'll accept it you disagree and delete the above.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 07, 2020, 05:03:18 pm
Guys, in a perfect world, the judge would vacate the sentence, apologize and what not, but in the real world I doubt any of these things will ever happen.  So I for one am going to be grateful Miss Luther can go home to her family, reopen her shop and hopefully, get back to some kind of normalcy and maybe put this all behind her. 

While I've seen a lot of people step up and do good in a crisis, there will always be those who won't.    This judge showed no mercy.  Technically, he might have been right for enforcing a governor's order, but like most judges, he had some leeway as to how to deal with Miss Luther's situation.  He chose to be a hard *bleep*.  Well, I happen to think somewhere along the line, his callousness will come back upon him.  Someday, he might be looking for forgiveness or leniency himself and he may not get it. 

So I say, let it go.

Mods:  Sorry if the above borders on religion, but I happen to think most people, regardless of faith (or of no faith) know what I'm talking about and have a similar viewpoint.    But I'll accept it you disagree and delete the above.
Sorry, but the judge never proved that the governor's order was actually lawful.

Just because a governor orders something does not mean it is within the law.

There is something called constitutional law and constitutional liberties.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Applewood on May 07, 2020, 05:34:51 pm
Sorry, but the judge never proved that the governor's order was actually lawful.

Just because a governor orders something does not mean it is within the law.

There is something called constitutional law and constitutional liberties.

Well, I don't know that the judge has to "prove" anything.  But, see, this is what I mean. We are looking for "justice" against the judge, looking to force him to make it right and IMHO that's not going to happen.   This is why I say, let it go.  He will get his someday.

By the way, I've said the same thing about Hillary.  She will never formally answer for her misdeeds.  But in some way, I think she is paying for them and will pay for them in the future.  I believe something similar will happen to this judge.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: musiclady on May 07, 2020, 05:37:57 pm
Why?  He needed to vacate and expunge the penalty.

Yes!
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: libertybele on May 07, 2020, 05:45:24 pm
Sorry, but the judge never proved that the governor's order was actually lawful.

Just because a governor orders something does not mean it is within the law.

There is something called constitutional law and constitutional liberties.

The governor can overturn an execution, I would think that Abbott was in his rights and authority.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 07, 2020, 05:45:49 pm
Now that same Supreme Court needs to look at removing the pugilist Judge.

I say look at ALL his other cases, to see his BIAS and un-American beliefs.  That is a COMMUNIST.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 07, 2020, 05:51:42 pm
Sorry, but the judge never proved that the governor's order was actually lawful.

Just because a governor orders something does not mean it is within the law.

There is something called constitutional law and constitutional liberties.


Are you kidding?   You think this biased, bigoted judge is ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL LAW & CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERTIES?
Did you even read what you wrote?  What everyone is upset ABOUT?

Right, there is something like that and THIS WOMANS, RIGHTS & LIBERTY WERE TRAMPLED ON!   The judge has a personal ax  to grind, on white people.  ( or axe...)   
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Idiot on May 07, 2020, 05:53:51 pm
Abbot has shown a willingness to vacate the jail, but the $7K fine stands. And, as @roamer_1 rightly points out, that should be lifted as well, and the Judge needs to be forced to apologize to her for his dressing her down and demanding she apologize for feeding her kids, and the families of her employees.  After that, the Judge needs to be sacked, by whatever means the State of TX does it.
My relative worked for the Texas State Commission on Judicial Conduct several years ago.  Even if a judge did something really horrible all they ever got was a slap on the wrist.  So don't expect anything to happen to this judge, unless of course they get voted out of office.  Considering the DFW area, not likely to happen.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 07, 2020, 05:55:27 pm
The governor can overturn an execution, I would think that Abbott was in his rights and authority.

Right on!  Governor has higher authority than the bigoted judge.  He needs to be removed from his position. I bet we would find ALL kind of abuses by his 'authority'.  I can guarantee it.   How do I know?  LOOK AT THIS CASE. 
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 07, 2020, 05:57:35 pm
So, it's up to Judge Moye when she is actually released, because the writ gives him until after the seven days are up.

Pretty slick!
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 07, 2020, 06:03:13 pm
The Judge Who Locked Up the Dallas Salon Owner Has a History of Violence

https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-05-06-the-judge-who-locked-up-the-dallas-salon-owner-has-a-history-of-violence/?fbclid=IwAR0LfsfR_3L-hhie_rmNOBErRn8IRuLTytYxm5ahbmmQblgZDjmthm-gtxk (https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2020-05-06-the-judge-who-locked-up-the-dallas-salon-owner-has-a-history-of-violence/?fbclid=IwAR0LfsfR_3L-hhie_rmNOBErRn8IRuLTytYxm5ahbmmQblgZDjmthm-gtxk)


Good find. This judge is a BULLY!   
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She did the right thing and should be willing to do it again - as should we all. These orders are unconstitutional and a gross power overreach by leftist whackos.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in jai
Post by: mountaineer on May 07, 2020, 06:04:36 pm
Why?  He needed to vacate and expunge the penalty.
Did he have that statutory authority?
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Elderberry on May 07, 2020, 07:33:02 pm
Dallas Salon Owner Who Was Jailed for Reopening Is Released

NY Times https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/us/dallas-salon-owner-shelley-luther.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/us/dallas-salon-owner-shelley-luther.html)

Hours after Mr. Abbott’s statement and the court’s ruling, Ms. Luther walked out of the Lew Sterrett Justice Center on Thursday afternoon to a crowd of supporters, who waved signs and chanted, “Shelley’s Free!”   
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 07, 2020, 08:08:55 pm
Well, I don't know that the judge has to "prove" anything.  But, see, this is what I mean. We are looking for "justice" against the judge, looking to force him to make it right and IMHO that's not going to happen.   This is why I say, let it go.  He will get his someday.

By the way, I've said the same thing about Hillary.  She will never formally answer for her misdeeds.  But in some way, I think she is paying for them and will pay for them in the future.  I believe something similar will happen to this judge.
A judge indeed must prove there is an existing law that he must refer to that covers the charge of the prosecutor.

Otherwise, he is declaring he is the authority no matter what.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 07, 2020, 08:18:49 pm
Did he have that statutory authority?

Truth is, I don't know. 
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: sneakypete on May 07, 2020, 11:28:24 pm
Guys, in a perfect world, the judge would vacate the sentence, apologize and what not, but in the real world I doubt any of these things will ever happen.  So I for one am going to be grateful Miss Luther can go home to her family, reopen her shop and hopefully, get back to some kind of normalcy and maybe put this all behind her. 

While I've seen a lot of people step up and do good in a crisis, there will always be those who won't.    This judge showed no mercy.  Technically, he might have been right for enforcing a governor's order, but like most judges, he had some leeway as to how to deal with Miss Luther's situation.  He chose to be a hard *bleep*.  Well, I happen to think somewhere along the line, his callousness will come back upon him.  Someday, he might be looking for forgiveness or leniency himself and he may not get it. 

So I say, let it go.

Mods:  Sorry if the above borders on religion, but I happen to think most people, regardless of faith (or of no faith) know what I'm talking about and have a similar viewpoint.    But I'll accept it you disagree and delete the above.

@Applewood

In complete agreement,and I am probably not the most religious person on this web site.

The time to quit fighting is when you have won the fight. Given the LtGov paid her fine and she ended up with a cool half-million in the bank and was set free,I'd have to say she,and the people of Texas are the clear winners here.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Applewood on May 07, 2020, 11:58:25 pm
@Applewood

In complete agreement,and I am probably not the most religious person on this web site.

The time to quit fighting is when you have won the fight. Given the LtGov paid her fine and she ended up with a cool half-million in the bank and was set free,I'd have to say she,and the people of Texas are the clear winners here.

Thanks @sneakypete   :beer:
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2020, 12:33:53 am
@Applewood

In complete agreement,and I am probably not the most religious person on this web site.

The time to quit fighting is when you have won the fight. Given the LtGov paid her fine and she ended up with a cool half-million in the bank and was set free,I'd have to say she,and the people of Texas are the clear winners here.

Well, except for the part about her having a criminal record now.... Judge got what he wanted...he "dirtied her up a bit."  Judges and Cops just love to do that.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: sneakypete on May 08, 2020, 12:36:32 am
Well, except for the part about her having a criminal record now.... Judge got what he wanted...he "dirtied her up a bit."  Judges and Cops just love to do that.

@Cyber Liberty

How long do you think that is going to last when the Governor has already admitted he was wrong and the LTGov paid her fine and they ordered her released?

She will have a lawyer petition the court to remove the conviction,and it will quietly be done.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2020, 01:17:22 am
@Cyber Liberty

How long do you think that is going to last when the Governor has already admitted he was wrong and the LTGov paid her fine and they ordered her released?

She will have a lawyer petition the court to remove the conviction,and it will quietly be done.

They can expunge all the want, and it will still cause her trouble because it will remain on her record.  Don't ask why I know that.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Applewood on May 08, 2020, 01:50:11 am
They can expunge all the want, and it will still cause her trouble because it will remain on her record.  Don't ask why I know that.

I don't know about in Texas, but in PA "expunge" means the conviction is gone -- like it never happened.

Thing is, someone has to make sure the record is indeed wiped clean.  I know of a local case where a man's record was to have been expunged -- only about a year later, he applied for a job and was turned down because he had a felony conviction.  Huh?  Seems whoever was to eradicate the record did not and the conviction showed up on a background check.  The man sued and won a boatload of money in damages from the county.    From then on, certain safeguards were put in place to make sure it doesn't happen again.  As far as I know, it hasn't.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2020, 01:57:47 am
I don't know about in Texas, but in PA "expunge" means the conviction is gone -- like it never happened.

Thing is, someone has to make sure the record is indeed wiped clean.  I know of a local case where a man's record was to have been expunged -- only about a year later, he applied for a job and was turned down because he had a felony conviction.  Huh?  Seems whoever was to eradicate the record did not and the conviction showed up on a background check.  The man sued and won a boatload of money in damages from the county.    From then on, certain safeguards were put in place to make sure it doesn't happen again.  As far as I know, it hasn't.

Expunging the court record is one thing, and clearing the police records is quite another.  The Judge dirtied her, and that was his untouched victory.  She has a record, her fingerprints and likely DNA are not part of the Police database.  If she gets stopped for rolling a stop sign, the cop who stops her will be able to see it.  This is the shit rotten cops and Judges live for. 

A good days work, on the part of the crooked Judge.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 08, 2020, 04:16:23 am
Maybe I'm missing something here, but there are two other levels here which show lack of discretion, that being the arresting officers and the prosecution. There are other parts of the food chain hiding behind the arrogance of this judge.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2020, 04:20:56 am
Maybe I'm missing something here, but there are two other levels here which show lack of discretion, that being the arresting officers and the prosecution. There are other parts of the food chain hiding behind the arrogance of this judge.

Absolutely correct, Joe.  It takes teamwork to be this bullet-headed.
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 09, 2020, 01:14:15 pm
A judge indeed must prove there is an existing law that he must refer to that covers the charge of the prosecutor.

Otherwise, he is declaring he is the authority no matter what.
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A cursory Texas search brings up "Government Code, Title 4. Executive Branch, Subtitle B. Law Enforcement and Public Protection, Chapter 418. Emergency Management, Subchapter A. General Provisions."

Among other things, Sec. 418.002 says: "The purposes of this chapter are to: (1) reduce vulnerability of people and communities of this state to damage, injury, and loss of life and property resulting from natural or man-made catastrophes, riots, or hostile military or paramilitary action[.]"

Section 418.012 says, "Under this chapter, the governor may issue executive orders, proclamations, and regulations and amend or rescind them.  Executive orders, proclamations, and regulations have the force and effect of law."  In the context of executive orders, the law gives the governor the responsibility "for meeting the dangers to the state and people presented by disasters."

In our context, the governor's authority is based upon dangers presented by disasters and catastrophes.  The question of whether the state is currently experiencing a statewide disaster or catastrophe under Texas law is merely the threshold; the answer, even in the affirmative, doesn't resolve the question of whether the business lockdown order proclaimed by Greg Abbott is valid.

Interestingly, the Texas governor may "commandeer" private property, if necessary, to "cope with a disaster," but that power is subject to compensation of the citizens harmed.  A shutdown order is effectively the government commandeering the relevant businesses without just compensation.

It turns out that the Texas law specifically protects property rights and Second Amendment rights.  Section 418.003 prohibits the "seizure or confiscation of any firearm or ammunition from an individual who is lawfully carrying or possessing the firearm or ammunition[.]"

The right to bear arms is a constitutional right and arguably an unalienable right.

The right to work to earn a livelihood is without question an unalienable right.  The government cannot take away that right.  Many in government want to take away the right to bear arms, but their efforts against the Second Amendment have led to conditions, not elimination.  Likewise, the government has no power to suspend or eliminate the right to earn a living.  With regard to the right to bear arms, the Second Amendment could, at least in theory, be abolished.  On the contrary, prior to lawfully suspending the right to produce income to survive, the government would have to first repeal the "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God."
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/governor_greg_abbott_has_a_pen_a_phone_and_a_tank.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/governor_greg_abbott_has_a_pen_a_phone_and_a_tank.html)
Title: Re: [updated] 'Feeding my kids is not selfish': Defiant Texas salon owner sentenced to seven days in
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 09, 2020, 01:41:40 pm
Abolishing the Second Amendment would still not abolish the Right, only the enumeration thereof.

It is, and ever has been the natural Right of anyone to defend themselves, others, and even their property with the best means available, and when necessary, lethal force. Ultimately, the means employed to administer that force are merely a detail, but with the consideration that the application of force may be mandated by someone bearing arms of any nature, or simply by overwhelming physical power, the means to meaningfully resist should be denied to no one. Regardless of form, those tools of defense can and must be the best available in order for those with the greatest disparity in physical ability between themselves and the attacker to successfully defend themselves. 

Even without the protections of the Second Amendment, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms would fall under the penumbra of the Ninth Amendment, to wit:
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The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

...as would the Right to work and feed one's self and family.