David Shuster
@DavidShuster
Just confirmed @SenTedCruz and his family flew to Cancun tonight for a few days at a resort they've visited before. Cruz seems to believe there isn't much for him to do in Texas for the millions of fellow Texans who remain without electricity/water and are literally freezing.
Texas Democrats call on Cruz to resignEff the left and their rat media toads.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/539403-texas-democrats-call-on-cruz-to-resign
Texas Democrats call on Cruz to resignI would have been in Cancun too if I could have found a flight out. It would have been better than waiting to see if your pipes burst or not.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/539403-texas-democrats-call-on-cruz-to-resign
I would have been in Cancun too if I could have found a flight out. It would have been better than waiting to see if your pipes burst or not.
Eff the left and their rat media toads.
Texas Democrats call on Cruz to resign
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/539403-texas-democrats-call-on-cruz-to-resign
Caleb Hull (I'm With the CCP Don't Ban Me)
@CalebJHull
Spare me your Ted Cruz fake outrage from the same people who worship Nancy Pelosi's feet while she eats $10 ice cream out of her $20k fridge while Americans are starving.
10:01 AM · Feb 18, 2021·Twitter Web App
Om my gosh, the horrors!
That man should have been in electric power company headquarters pushing electrons into the power lines by hand!
It was then reported Thursday morning that Cruz was possibly on his way back from Cancun.
Yep. And cancelled his family vacation plans at the last minute so he could remain in Texas to virtue signal.
Cruz seems to believe there isn't much for him to do in Texas for the millions of fellow Texans who remain without electricity/water and are literally freezing.What is he supposed to be doing, driving a snow plow? Handing out blankets? I agree, it may not be the best optics, but what was said above probably is true: plans made well in advance, could be cancelled only at great expense.
Cruz defends flying to Cancun amid Texas power outages
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) on Thursday confirmed he flew to Mexico with family members Wednesday evening, responding for the first time to widespread backlash in his home state that's been battered by a severe winter storm.
“Wanting to be a good dad,†Cruz said, he decided to fly “with them last night and am flying back this afternoon.â€
'I was just dropping the girls off in Cancun': Shameless Ted Cruz blames his kids for deserting Texas and flying to Mexico amid energy crisis - as he returns to face a VERY chilly reception
On Wednesday night, Ted Cruz was pictured at Houston airport with his wife Heidi and their children
He was on the list of standby passengers for an upgrade to business class - Heidi was not
Sources close to him say it was a pre-planned family vacation that he decided to go ahead with despite the energy crisis in Texas
The family were planning to stay at a resort 'where they've stayed previously' - last year they went to Nizuc Resort & Spa in Cancun
Criticism of the trip erupted on Thursday morning and Cruz seemed to change his plans to return home
This week, as many as 4.4million Texans were without power thanks to a bungled response from ERCOT - the energy distributor - to a winter storm
At least ten people have died trying to stay warm and a state of emergency has been declared
Cruz said on Tuesday he had 'no defense' for the crisis; He has not responded to criticism of the trip yet
By Lauren Fruen and Jennifer Smith For Dailymail.com (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9273075/Ted-Cruz-jets-Cancun-millions-Texas-remain-without-power.html)
Published: 10:00 EST, 18 February 2021 | Updated: 14:16 EST, 18 February 2021 ...
What is he supposed to be doing, driving a snow plow? Handing out blankets? I agree, it may not be the best optics, but what was said above probably is true: plans made well in advance, could be cancelled only at great expense.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/02/18/18/39459340-9273075-image-a-124_1613672330786.jpg)
Oh my gosh, gone a whole half day. Whatever will the people of Texas do?
Nonsense. If this were true he would have said so boarding the plane or upon landing --- at least a tweet.Typical republicans...circle the wagons and shoot each other. Our country is literally going to hell and this is what you worry about??????
He had a working phone and knew the shit show he started. (https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/02/18/17/39451452-9273075-Cruz_in_the_United_Airlines_lounge_at_Houston_airport_on_Wednesd-a-89_1613668645015.jpg)
What is he supposed to be doing, driving a snow plow? Handing out blankets? I agree, it may not be the best optics, but what was said above probably is true: plans made well in advance, could be cancelled only at great expense.
Typical republicans...circle the wagons and shoot each other. Our country is literally going to hell and this is what you worry about??????
Why are you blaming the generic republican for this? Cruz wants to be President. Cruz has a problem convincing voters he's genuine. Put another way, he sucks at retail politics. This is just another nail in that coffin with him again holding the hammer.
If he doesn't want to be president, then he should fly back to Cancun, enjoy a Margarita on the beach and toast the good fortune gods for letting him escape the frigid, killing cold in Texas. :shrug:
Yup. The firing squad is indeed circular....
I don't know that Cruz wants to be President, but I do expect quite a few "Republicans" are on the rifle squad. Every one that actually wants to be President for example.
Pubbies need to get signed onto TBR, so they can get the advice about optics.
What could he have done that the state agencies and state legislature and leadership isn't doing?One of the headlines is something to the effect, "Cruz Flies to Mexico as Texans Freeze." Perhaps he can affect the weather. If only he hadn't accompanied his family to Cancun, by golly, the temperatures in Texas would have soared to at least the mid-60s and no one would be freezing. Who knows what impact that <24 hour grip had on the temperature.
Is the concept of states taking care of themselves a lost cause among even so called Conservatives these days?
Why are you blaming the generic republican for this? Cruz wants to be President. Cruz has a problem convincing voters he's genuine. Put another way, he sucks at retail politics. This is just another nail in that coffin with him again holding the hammer.
If he doesn't want to be president, then he should fly back to Cancun, enjoy a Margarita on the beach and toast the good fortune gods for letting him escape the frigid, killing cold in Texas. :shrug:
The Optics are terrible..what was Cruz thinking!
If this was a Dem we would be all over his ass!
The Optics are terrible..what was Cruz thinking!
If this was a Dem we would be all over his ass!
One of the headlines is something to the effect, "Cruz Flies to Mexico as Texans Freeze." Perhaps he can affect the weather. If only he hadn't accompanied his family to Cancun, by golly, the temperatures in Texas would have soared to at least the mid-60s and no one would be freezing. Who knows what impact that <24 hour grip had on the temperature.
I don't give two sh*ts about optics. An unnatural and unhealthy obsession with optics is what's de-nutted the Republican party.
Instead of Conservatives and Republicans standing up for the man for taking care of his family and getting them to a warmer and safe climate...we've got so-called Conservatives and Republicans clutching their pearls so hard it's leaving bruises on their neck over "optics".
No wonder the Dems run the show in DC whether they are the majority or not.
@amuse @amusehttps://twitter.com/amuse/status/1362478077016637441
Crazy that the MSM is DOXXING the senator's flight. Worse than that Twitter is allowing it to trend. It is dangerous.
THREAT THREAD: Today @United Airlines shared the travel itinerary of Senator @tedcruz with members of the media and as a result, the public at large. His flight information is being included in tweets to/from mainstream media including @CNN and @Acosta.
2/ MSNBC's @JakeSherman also shared @tedcruz flight upgrade status on Twitter so that anyone who plans to stalk to senator will know whether or not he got upgraded to first-class (evidently he did not).
3/ When Democrats call for the death of senators like @tedcruz they don't realize that they're putting the lives of @SecretService, Police, and airport employees at risk too.
4/ Remember, just four years ago a Democratic campaign worker read a tweet from @BernieSanders suggesting that Republicans in Congress wanted to kill Americans and as a result, he went to the Republican softball practice injuring five and almost killing @SteveScalise.
5/ If I were @United I'd be very concerned. Imagine a major US airline DOXXING a member of the Senate Subcommittee on Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security. My advice? Change the arrival gate at the last minute and don't announce it publicly.
6/ @SecretService and @TwitterSupport here are just some of the Twitter users that shared @tedcruz private info: @lbeckman@elkaw@Antoniocuba59@RhymesWithRight@ChickoHen@JakeSherman@emilcDC@Todd_Rubin@passantino@BrianPe75097879@daynasteele@dougblandry
7/ Sadly Heidi Cruz is literally on the phone trying to get protection from HPD when Ted lands in Houston. His family is terrified. If you needed any more proof that the Democratic Party is the party of hate, look no further. Pray for Ted, his family, and the police.
8/ United offered refunds to customers unwilling to fly given the security threat caused by the DOXXING of Senator Cruz. Here is a picture of Ted in Mexico arriving at the airport:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuiIyhBVIAIpvrN?format=jpg&name=small)
9/ UPDATE: Sources at the FAA report that there have been more than a dozen bomb threats for the flight Senator Cruz is reportedly booked on.
The really important question is: Where's Beto?
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1362478077016637441
Well I guess I am alone on this...I like Cruz, in fact I supported him over Trump in 2016.
I am not piling on I just want Cruz to be in a good position for 2024 and this will not help him imho
It won't matter...either way...McConnell and his gang of Republican swamp rats will work against him just as hard whether this had happened or not.
Well I guess I am alone on this...I like Cruz, in fact I supported him over Trump in 2016.
I am not piling on I just want Cruz to be in a good position for 2024 and this will not help him imho
BTW..optics is everything in politics..just ask Nixon about his debate with Kennedy in 1960
I wouldn't, personally. Didn't care much about Pelosi's ice cream habit, for example. The only problem I had with O'Bastard's frequent Hawaiian vacations was the way it forced Secret Service agents to be away from their families on Christmas. I was glad for the time he spent on the golf course.
I think I might be unusual....
Chinless Turtle has not, and will not forget that Cruz tagged him as a liar. I'm sure Ted Cruz has other hobbies he'd rather pursue than running for President anyway. Frog-gigging, perhaps.
BTW..optics is everything in politics..just ask Nixon about his debate with Kennedy in 1960
I wouldn't, personally. Didn't care much about Pelosi's ice cream habit, for example. The only problem I had with O'Bastard's frequent Hawaiian vacations was the way it forced Secret Service agents to be away from their families on Christmas. I was glad for the time he spent on the golf course.
I think I might be unusual....
My question is where in the hell is @LegalAmerican to put icing on this cake :shrug:
The downside to that is he'd use either the course at Andrews AFB or at Ft. Belvoir...which means that soldiers who were looking forward to playing a round or two after a hard week at work had their reserved tee times cancelled without warning.
Secret Service shut down the course he played to anyone but him.
(https://www.mblazoned.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/IMG_3152-1024x768.jpg)
Om my gosh, the horrors!
That man should have been in electric power company headquarters pushing electrons into the power lines by hand!
I agree. I would have done the same. Take care of my family. I don't like Ted, but what is he supposed to do?
30 DEMON-RATS in congress, went to Puerto Rico...for fun, when our government was shut down. 30 of THEM! Instead of working, they went to party. The shut down was, because DEMON-RATS WOULD NOT COMPROMISE OR WORK FOR WE THE PEOPLE. Republicans are always held to a different standard.
Cruz isn't allowed vacations?
If the dims want to pull the hypocricy card, we'll play that game okay.
Man they miss Trump to beat up on. Apparently they are still scared of Cruz and that's a good thing. With that being said some parts of Texas are still in catastrophic conditions and everyone seems to want to beat up on our Gov. and junior Senator. I still have Faith in both of them.
*Yea, Cruz stepped on his dick here, optically. Hopefully it's a learning experience he'll need in 2024.
Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
Republicans be like “Why don’t people like us?â€
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuhmaWmXIAIgH4I?format=jpg&name=small)
12:18 PM · Feb 18, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1362451494235234305
Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
Party of Davos-level
What was he thinkingQuoteChad Pergram
@ChadPergram · 6h
Colleague Paul Steinhauser confirms GOP TX Sen Ted Cruz traveled to Cancun amid the TX storm/power outages. GOP Source: “the photos speak for themselvesâ€
10:17 AM · Feb 18, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1362420862373277698
Jack Posobiec
@JackPosobiec
Yes!QuoteJoe@joepushback · 5h
Jesus, Jack. Would it have been better had he taken a photo op in front of a frozen wind turbine and vowed to get to the bottom of all this?
10:39 AM · Feb 18, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1362426540345163780
Oh great! Leftists have a hissy fit that Ted Cruz didn't stay in Texas and suffer along with his fellow Texans, and the right-leaning media joins in to excoriate him. Plus members of this forum. Others have asked, and I fully agree, what am I missing here?
How does Cruz' brief escape make anyone's life any better? Everyone knows he can be available any time, any place in today's world. He can speak with Governor Abbott anytime he's needed for input. Do those complaining believe that he's got his phone on silent or is blocking calls from Texas officials? I'm truly incredulous. SMH.
This frenzy should have fizzled out right after it was launched. Instead, frantic newscasters and solid (?) conservatives are bumping this story right back up to the top instead of laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. Let it die already.
P.S. I believe I would have Rush's full agreement, but he would have worded it better. He could stay calm. It's my anger that's tripped me up.
It's a circular firing squad, and that, more than any Rat chicanery, will be why we lose in 2022 and 2024 (and beyond).
Oh great! Leftists have a hissy fit that Ted Cruz didn't stay in Texas and suffer along with his fellow Texans, and the right-leaning media joins in to excoriate him. Plus members of this forum. Others have asked, and I fully agree, what am I missing here?
How does Cruz' brief escape make anyone's life any better? Everyone knows he can be available any time, any place in today's world. He can speak with Governor Abbott anytime he's needed for input. Do those complaining believe that he's got his phone on silent or is blocking calls from Texas officials? I'm truly incredulous. SMH.
This frenzy should have fizzled out right after it was launched. Instead, frantic newscasters and solid (?) conservatives are bumping this story right back up to the top instead of laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. Let it die already.
P.S. I believe I would have Rush's full agreement, but he would have worded it better. He could stay calm. It's my anger that's tripped me up.
Senator Cruz's Cancun trip gets the meme treatment ....
Daily Mail/UK, Feb 2021
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/02/18/19/39460632-9275289-The_famous_distracted_boyfriend_meme_was_used_to_showed_an_appal-a-79_1613675812784.jpg)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/02/18/18/39458784-9275289-image-a-38_1613674253851.jpg)
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/02/18/18/39458804-9275289-image-a-46_1613674279985.jpg)
More: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9275289/Twitter-goes-frenzy-Ted-Cruz-Cancun-trip-memes.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9275289/Twitter-goes-frenzy-Ted-Cruz-Cancun-trip-memes.html)
I agree with you.
The RIGHT....like to virtue signal, instead of being SMART and practical. They 'love' to take the high road, to their own demise.
Ted Cruz, has returned to TEXAS!
Great! Crisis over!
I still follow my hometown newspaper's FB page and I've been asking the Cruz bashers on there this simple question.Amen!!!
Are you this concerned with what the other members of the Texas delegation to DC is doing right now? Where's Cornyn? What is the representative from your Congressional District doing during the storm that has the state locked down? Are you down at your Reps local office demanding he do something about a state issue?
No honest answers and a ton of deflection from anyone I've asked that question.
And honestly that question could be asked of anyone in here who's state is in the grip of this storm who is bashing Cruz and biting their fist over "optics".
I don't give two sh*ts about optics. And unnatural and unhealthy obsession with optics is what's de-nutted the Republican party.
Instead of Conservatives and Republicans standing up for the man for taking care of his family and getting them to a warmer and safe climate...we've got so-called Conservatives and Republicans clutching their pearls so hard it's leaving bruises on their neck over "optics".
No wonder the Dems run the show in DC whether they are the majority or not.
I still have not heard one single valid reason why he as a legislator is less effective down there instead of Houston.
NWS forecasts saw something bad coming a week before. What prevented any person to avoid it to drive or fly 500 miles plus or minus east or west to avoid the event? This faux outrage rings hollow to me.
Ted Cruz, has returned to TEXAS!
Granted, Cruz's political competitors will have tons of fun with this. And why not? He put the Christmas present in their laps. But. the outrage coming from Texans isn't faux and Cruz needs to make this right.
It may have just been Cruz's tin ear getting the best of him. But, after his "vote your conscience" at the convention and the price he almost paid for that, one can't help wondering why he hasn't developed more introspection and skill at retail politics.
C'est la vie. :shrug:
Any word on whether or not Cruz will again be a good dad and fly back to Cancun to bring home the family?
Any word on whether or not Cruz will again be a good dad and fly back to Cancun to bring home the family?
I was going to ask, any DEMON-RATS...leave Texas for their families and warmth? Only republicans are attacked, then others chime in. NO THINKING on their own.
https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1362212258135220228?s=20
Ted Cruz, has returned to TEXAS!
People have to remember.... Cruz is a legislator.... Not an administrator. If he was governor, mayor, or heading an agency directly involved in the event, we'd have reason to scream.
Candace Owens
@RealCandaceO
First it was the fault of wind people. Then it was the fault of oil people not listening to the wind people.
Then it was the fault of Texas snow people not feeling bad for California forest-fire people.
Now it’s, something something and Ted Cruz almost murdered Texas.
#WOKE
2:23 PM · Feb 18, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Scott Adams
@ScottAdamsSays
An emerging opinion on Twitter is that the biggest problem with the massive Texas power outage and freezing temperatures is Ted Cruz's stubborn refusal to suffer.
#Unforgiveable
1:28 PM · Feb 18, 2021·Twitter Web App
Oh, for heavens sake, stop saying this is okay, even the optics, because Cruz is irrelevant to finding a solution for the people of Texas. This is not very helpful for the man's stature.
This is a crisis gone to waste. It would have been a perfect opportunity for Cruz to fortify his "man of the people" cred --- to be seen rolling up his sleeves and meeting with the Governor, helping out stranded people while deriding the causes and promising to work with the Governor on solutions.
Or, he could have done nothing but send tweets reminding Texans to stay safe.
Instead, the left has a shiny object to draw attention away from Global Warming and the Green New Deal, and Cruz has painted himself into a tighter corner as an out-of-touch elitist, while Beto the gigolo multimillionaire, is the man of the people.
Oh, for heavens sake, stop saying this is okay, even the optics, because Cruz is irrelevant to finding a solution for the people of Texas. This is not very helpful for the man's stature.
This is a crisis gone to waste. It would have been a perfect opportunity for Cruz to fortify his "man of the people" cred --- to be seen rolling up his sleeves and meeting with the Governor, helping out stranded people while deriding the causes and promising to work with the Governor on solutions.
Or, he could have done nothing but send tweets reminding Texans to stay safe.
Instead, the left has a shiny object to draw attention away from Global Warming and the Green New Deal, and Cruz has painted himself into a tighter corner as an out-of-touch elitist, while Beto the gigolo multimillionaire, is the man of the people.
Maybe... Cruz has become like many of us have become lately. Maybe he no longer gives a flying fuk about the "optics". Since the optics will always be spun by the lamestream media anyway. :shrug:
I still don't understand the Cruz-hate, especially from those who have steadfastly defended Donald Trump from all the Trump-hate. Seems hypocritical. :shrug:
If this is Cruz's motivation .. then I salute him. But I doubt it was.
He made a mistake that reinforces his weak spot: retail politics. This is a very bad weak spot to be reinforcing for someone who will announce his candidacy for the Presidency again. :shrug:
If this is Cruz's motivation .. then I salute him. But I doubt it was.
He made a mistake that reinforces his weak spot: retail politics. This is a very bad weak spot to be reinforcing for someone who will announce his candidacy for the Presidency again. :shrug:
I still don't understand the Cruz-hate, especially from those who have steadfastly defended Donald Trump from all the Trump-hate. Seems hypocritical. :shrug:
I still don't understand the Cruz-hate, especially from those who have steadfastly defended Donald Trump from all the Trump-hate. Seems hypocritical. :shrug:
What makes you think he will run for president again? I don't. I think a lot of GOPers are bagging it ....if not officially, unofficially.....
You're just as bad as a democrat feeding a false smear attack feeding frenzy. And BTW, he did some Tweets guiding Texans on navigating the cold. Do you also know where all the other legislator are? Have they been given the same treatment, if not in Texas?
And you still didn't answer my question.... Just what could he have done in Houston, than he couldn't have in Cancun?
You could be right. If this is the case, then Cruz should've/would've stayed in Mexico and enjoyed his vacation.
My only concern with his travels is the 2x4 Cruz has given his opponents to beat him with.
You misunderstand. This is not "Cruz hate". Those being honest are simply wondering how a politician with such a shallow bond with the people he needs to vote for him could make this kind of optics mistake. And he should fire whoever on his staff came up with the "being a good dad" defense.
He'd have gone a long way to ending this debate had he come home and issued this statement: "This is not the right time to leave the people of Texas. My family will remain in Mexico for a week without me. ... I will be meeting with Gov. Abbott (fill in the blank) to discuss what we can do to fix this for all Texans and how I can best help at the federal level".
@Cyber Liberty
You misunderstand. This is not "Cruz hate". Those being honest are simply wondering how a politician with such a shallow bond with the people he needs to vote for him could make this kind of optics mistake. And he should fire whoever on his staff came up with the "being a good dad" defense.
He'd have gone a long way to ending this debate had he come home and issued this statement: "This is not the right time to leave the people of Texas. My family will remain in Mexico for a week without me. ... I will be meeting with Gov. Abbott (fill in the blank) to discuss what we can do to fix this for all Texans and how I can best help at the federal level".
@Cyber Liberty
BS @Right_in_Virginia you have been hating on Cruz since you first discovered this Thread
As @corbe mentioned, why did 400K Trump voters turn against Cruz to support Beta-boy? Do they believe the "Lyin' Ted" trope?
Why are you believing @corbe claiming 400k Trump voters supported Beta-boy? This is bullshit and I, for one, am damn sick and tired of it being spewed when Corbe's in the mood. No Trump supporter supported Beto.
Must we *again* relive the 2016 convention and the wound Cruz self-inflicted into his own political career? Had it not been for the President AND his supporters Cruz would be well on his way to retiring from Wegmans.
@Cyber Liberty
Are they still there? If you find that they are, please post a link. Might even be on Twit.
Meanwhile back at the ranch . . .
Sheila Jackson-Lee Will Save Texas With “Hydro-Powerâ€
Michael Berry | Feb 18, 2021
During a press conference on Tuesday, the CongressWOMAN Sheila Jackson-Lee talked about how she’s working to save Texas.
As the czar points out, “Sheila Jackson-Lee doesn’t have the slightest clue how our power grid worksâ€.
The CongressWOMAN said:“Based on my request yesterday for them to go out hunting for resources, they have asked the Southwest Power Administration that falls under the Department of Energy to extend us power. They have sent us hydro power. They have already sent that power to the state. I think it is important for ERCOT to let us know where that power is being used. I’ve asked them to continue, they are now going back to do as I asked, which is, they’re going to go to New York, they’re going to go to California, and try to see whether or not we can get any sources between now and then. Obviously, the distributors have to be involved as well, but the federal government is now asking New York and California if they can help us.
I even asked Mexico, but Mexico is in dire straits right now, because they didn’t get the natural gas that they needed to get. My good friends at Center Point, I’m not sure whether they can reach there and maybe they’ll respond. We’ll talk offline. New Mexico is also a viable entity in terms of some of our distribution companies.â€
https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/michael-berry/content/2021-02-18-sheila-jackson-lee-will-save-texas-with-hydro-power/
Sounds like something from Idiocracy.
Cruz flew home alone @Cyber Liberty I posted a Daily Mail link up thread.
Well with all due respect.... I find it ironic that you feel that way....
considering how many 4x8's Trump has always given his opponents to beat him with.
Ari Fleischer
@AriFleischer
In one afternoon, the MSM has given more coverage to @SenTedCruz being in Cancun during the TX blackouts than they gave to Pres. Obama when he was not in the Situation Room during &after the Benghazi attack or when he traveled to Las Vegas for a campaign fundraiser one day later.
4:13 PM · Feb 18, 2021
4.6M - 4.2M is 400,000 disgruntled Trumpers.
Who were screamin' Lyin' Ted at the top of their lungs.
The words "Lyin' Ted" are never more than a few keystrokes for some folks. And yet, most people have figured out how to like both Donald trump and ted Cruz. Go figger.
How is it possible that the smartest man in any room (Ted Cruz) didn't know this would happen?
Sen. Ted Cruz arrives back in Texas with armed police escort
By Ebony Bowden
February 18, 2021 | 6:11pm
Sen. Ted Cruz touched down in Texas on Thursday afternoon with an armed police escort amid outrage over his 24-hour trip to Mexico during a catastrophic storm in the Lone Star State. ...
In a statement released Thursday afternoon, Cruz said that he was only chaperoning his daughters, ages 12 and 10, on a flight and was headed back to the US. ... NY Post (https://nypost.com/2021/02/18/sen-ted-cruz-arrives-back-in-texas-with-armed-police-escort/?utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow)
How is it possible that someone on this board would get in agreement with Democrat propaganda?
As I posted above, people actually called in bomb threats about Ted's flight. This is insane, optics or not.
The media are hyping this Cancun trip like mad, which makes me wonder from what, exactly, they're trying to distract us.
It won't matter...either way...McConnell and his gang of Republican swamp rats will work against him just as hard whether this had happened or not.
Unless you're deliberately trying to muddy the waters away from this discussion, why not start a separate thread to discuss the bomb threats? I know you know how.This whole thread is about Ted's trip to Cancun and the return flight, including the bomb threats. I don't muddy waters. Lay off.
Exactly. McConnell and Cruz have been at odds since Cruz won his seat. I find it disheartening that so many people attack Cruz after he had stood up for Trump time and time again. I find it disheartening that so many people attack him and he is the one person that is truly a conservative.
The media are hyping this Cancun trip like mad, which makes me wonder from what, exactly, they're trying to distract us.
Of course bomb threats are insane @mountaineer But this isn't the topic of this thread. This thread is about the political wisdom of Ted Cruz choosing to take a vacation in Mexico during the same time Texans are dying from no electricity during an artic blast.
Unless you're deliberately trying to muddy the waters away from this discussion, why not start a separate thread to discuss the bomb threats? I know you know how.
How is it possible that someone on this board would get in agreement with Democrat propaganda?
How is it possible that someone on this board would get in agreement with Democrat propaganda?
Asking how the smartest man in any room could not see the Democrat propaganda coming is not agreeing with the democrat propaganda @Hoodat It's asking how a professional politician with an advanced intellect harboring plans to run for President could be so stupid.
To anyone joining in the manufactured outrage re Ted's trip, ask yourselves:
WWTD?
Does anyone here think Trump would obsequiously grovel to the hostile media for his actions? He'd just let them stew in their own juices, and y'all were always fine with that. But the long knives are out for Ted, and I'm not sure why.
Wow. You extended endless grace for Trump, but you have zero for Cruz. Interesting.
Exactly. McConnell and Cruz have been at odds since Cruz won his seat. I find it disheartening that so many people attack Cruz after he had stood up for Trump time and time again. I find it disheartening that so many people attack him and he is the one person that is truly a conservative.He also happens to have been among the most reliably pro-Trump senators. That alone is enough to earn him the target on his back.
This whole catastrophe that Cruz went some place warm to escape an ice storm that shut down most of the state is absurd. No different then escaping a hurricane. He's supposed to stay in harm's way? Why? Just in case he wants to run for President?
He is the one person who has stood up for Trump time and time again. He did so, because he felt he was correct and what he was doing was for the good of the country.
The left continues to wage their war. They hate Cruz as well and always have. I don't see Ted running in 2024 and I don' think he has any intention of running, considering the increased division in the Republican party itself and the ballot box is completely broken. I think once his term is up, he will leave; if he doesn't do so before then.
This drama only comes up because the left and the GOPe would like nothing more than to be rid of him. He's the only conservative left that represents any sort of a problem for them.
The GOP is dead. I'm sure Cruz sees the writing on the wall.
Some of what I have read on this thread has been very disappointing. I expected more from our own.
To anyone joining in the manufactured outrage re Ted's trip, ask yourselves:
WWTD?
Does anyone here think Trump would obsequiously grovel to the hostile media for his actions? He'd just let them stew in their own juices, and y'all were always fine with that. But the long knives are out for Ted, and I'm not sure why.
Of course bomb threats are insane @mountaineer But this isn't the topic of this thread. This thread is about the political wisdom of Ted Cruz choosing to take a vacation in Mexico during the same time Texans are dying from no electricity during an artic blast.
Unless you're deliberately trying to muddy the waters away from this discussion, why not start a separate thread to discuss the bomb threats? I know you know how.
Permit me to repeat myself @AllThatJazzZ ----
Ted Cruz, for better or worse, is no Donald Trump. Cruz lacks both the steel spine and bond with the voters Donald Trump has.
Cruz's best political option is to think before he sunbathes. happy77
And I shall repeat myself. Endless grace for Trump. Zero for Cruz. Interesting.
He also happens to have been among the most reliably pro-Trump senators. That alone is enough to earn him the target on his back.
Ted Cruz, for better or worse, is no Donald Trump. Cruz lacks both the steel spine and bond with the voters Donald Trump has.
Cruz's best political option is to think before he sunbathes. happy77
This is misguided @skeeter If I didn't give a rat's ass about Cruz's political viability, I'd be sitting back smiling as he continues to shoot himself in the foot (and elsewhere). But I'm not.
He's got to stop making these types of mistakes --- it feeds into, forgive my bluntness here, but it feeds directly into the perception that he's a somewhat repellent fraud who doesn't give a damn about people. This is the target folks needs to worry about and Cruz needs to stay aware of.
This is misguided @skeeter If I didn't give a rat's ass about Cruz's political viability, I'd be sitting back smiling as he continues to shoot himself in the foot (and elsewhere). But I'm not.
He's got to stop making these types of mistakes --- it feeds into, forgive my bluntness here, but it feeds directly into the perception that he's a somewhat repellent fraud who doesn't give a damn about people. This is the target folks needs to worry about and Cruz needs to stay aware of.
And I shall repeat myself. Endless grace for Trump. Zero for Cruz. Interesting.
Do you decide what directions threads go? I sure can't.
Cruz is not stupid. I think once he realized that AG Barr walked away and SCOTUS blinked he knew it was game over for the GOP. I'll lay odds that he won't run another term.
We just came off of four years of similar criticism of Trump - self inflicted wounds. And my defense of Cruz remains the same as it was for Trump - the left targets their most prominent enemies with this kind of crap all the time, and many on our side give it weight it does not warrant.
It's up to us to give it the attention it deserves. Which is none.
I have no idea why you're bring this up ... I sure didn't.
So what is about all I can muster. Unless Ted has some special ability to help people (we have seen him play basketball and I wasn't impressed) then all he was doing (staying in Texas) was adding to the population that would be using needed electricity.
This is misguided @skeeter If I didn't give a rat's ass about Cruz's political viability, I'd be sitting back smiling as he continues to shoot himself in the foot (and elsewhere). But I'm not.
He's got to stop making these types of mistakes --- it feeds into, forgive my bluntness here, but it feeds directly into the perception that he's a somewhat repellent fraud who doesn't give a damn about people. This is the target folks needs to worry about and Cruz needs to stay aware of.
THIS is what you took from my post?? :laugh:
I bring it up because so many assume that he'll run in '24. Not going to happen.
I think you all have misunderstood what @Right_in_Virginia and I were trying to say.
We feel Cruz made a huge error leaving Texas for Cancun..I don't care if it was to escort his family to Mexico...the perception is there that he left his state when it needed him...he is their voice in DC to get help and aide.
Whether he runs for president or re-election this will come back to haunt him..it was a tactical error on his part and his staff.
I think you all have misunderstood what @Right_in_Virginia and I were trying to say.
We feel Cruz made a huge error leaving Texas for Cancun..I don't care if it was to escort his family to Mexico...the perception is there that he left his state when it needed him...he is their voice in DC to get help and aide.
Whether he runs for president or re-election this will come back to haunt him..it was a tactical error on his part and his staff.
You could be right. If this is the case, then Cruz should've/would've stayed in Mexico and enjoyed his vacation.
My only concern with his travels is the 2x4 Cruz has given his opponents to beat him with.
@mystery-ak
I wish he and all the Republicans would let this kind of silly hysteria flow off of them like water off a duck's back. The stage is much bigger now in this age of technology. I thought everyone knew that.
Until the Republicans develop Trump's "whatever" attitude, they'll be plagued by the pesky media always looking for a gotcha. Of course, to do that, they'd need the Republican base to back off on all the needless trappings of perceived optics and whatnot. Firing squads are not supposed to shoot at their own.
Trump gave half the people on earth 2x4s regularly and you defended him relentlessly and uncritically every single time. It was always the fault of those administering the beatings, and the fault of others here who were insufficiently loyal to Trump because they didn't rise to defend whatever was his latest narcissistic, puerile adolescent nonsense. If you're going to argue that "optics" shouldn't matter against Trump because the Ds and the media will *always manufacture* bad optics for Rs and others they hate, then stick with that position consistently; I happen to think it's a good one.
I agree that the optics of this *are* very bad for Ted. Were I him I would simply say the trip had been planned and paid in advance, his obligations to his family will always come first, and he fully expects the Ds and media to distort and exaggerate it as much as possible because that's simply what they do. Then he should *without apology* fly back down there and collect them at the end of the week. As a US Senator he is simply not in the chain of accountability or authority for ERCOT, in fact that distinction is precisely *why we have* ERCOT; *all Cruz can do* is virtue signal about it.
The Ds complained in the last few months that Cruz was feckless and cowardly because he rose to the defense of election integrity, a position which could have benefitted Trump, after Trump called Heidi Cruz ugly during the 2016 primaries; Cruz was insufficiently loyal to his family because he didn't carry a grudge against Trump through the stolen election controversy. Now apparently Cruz is *too loyal* to his family because he's spending a few hours looking after his daughters on an international flight rather than handing out bottles of water.
Had Trump had the support of his ' own' this country would be in a much better place. Ted won't play their game and never will. He is the left's next target and the target of his 'own'.
Trump gave half the people on earth 2x4s regularly and you defended him relentlessly and uncritically every single time. It was always the fault of those administering the beatings, and the fault of others here who were insufficiently loyal to Trump because they didn't rise to defend whatever was his latest narcissistic, puerile adolescent nonsense. If you're going to argue that "optics" shouldn't matter against Trump because the Ds and the media will *always manufacture* bad optics for Rs and others they hate, then stick with that position consistently; I happen to think it's a good one.
I agree that the optics of this *are* very bad for Ted. Were I him I would simply say the trip had been planned and paid in advance, his obligations to his family will always come first, and he fully expects the Ds and media to distort and exaggerate it as much as possible because that's simply what they do. Then he should *without apology* fly back down there and collect them at the end of the week. As a US Senator he is simply not in the chain of accountability or authority for ERCOT, in fact that distinction is precisely *why we have* ERCOT; *all Cruz can do* is virtue signal about it.
The Ds complained in the last few months that Cruz was feckless and cowardly because he rose to the defense of election integrity, a position which could have benefitted Trump, after Trump called Heidi Cruz ugly during the 2016 primaries; Cruz was insufficiently loyal to his family because he didn't carry a grudge against Trump through the stolen election controversy. Now apparently Cruz is *too loyal* to his family because he's spending a few hours looking after his daughters on an international flight rather than handing out bottles of water.
Trump gave half the people on earth 2x4s regularly and you defended him relentlessly and uncritically every single time. It was always the fault of those administering the beatings, and the fault of others here who were insufficiently loyal to Trump because they didn't rise to defend whatever was his latest narcissistic, puerile adolescent nonsense. If you're going to argue that "optics" shouldn't matter against Trump because the Ds and the media will *always manufacture* bad optics for Rs and others they hate, then stick with that position consistently; I happen to think it's a good one.
I agree that the optics of this *are* very bad for Ted. Were I him I would simply say the trip had been planned and paid in advance, his obligations to his family will always come first, and he fully expects the Ds and media to distort and exaggerate it as much as possible because that's simply what they do. Then he should *without apology* fly back down there and collect them at the end of the week. As a US Senator he is simply not in the chain of accountability or authority for ERCOT, in fact that distinction is precisely *why we have* ERCOT; *all Cruz can do* is virtue signal about it.
The Ds complained in the last few months that Cruz was feckless and cowardly because he rose to the defense of election integrity, a position which could have benefitted Trump, after Trump called Heidi Cruz ugly during the 2016 primaries; Cruz was insufficiently loyal to his family because he didn't carry a grudge against Trump through the stolen election controversy. Now apparently Cruz is *too loyal* to his family because he's spending a few hours looking after his daughters on an international flight rather than handing out bottles of water.
@mystery-ak
I wish he and all the Republicans would let this kind of silly hysteria flow off of them like water off a duck's back. The stage is much bigger now in this age of technology. I thought everyone knew that.
Until the Republicans develop Trump's "whatever" attitude, they'll be plagued by the pesky media always looking for a gotcha. Of course, to do that, they'd need the Republican base to back off on all the needless trappings of perceived optics and whatnot. Firing squads are not supposed to shoot at their own.
Cruz lacks both the steel spine and bond with the voters Donald Trump has.
Asking how the smartest man in any room could not see the Democrat propaganda coming is not agreeing with the democrat propaganda @Hoodat It's asking how a professional politician with an advanced intellect harboring plans to run for President could be so stupid.
Never saw you take that approach when Trump did it. And I never saw you embracing the Dem talking points either. Why so different when it comes to Cruz?
Trump gave half the people on earth 2x4s regularly and you defended him relentlessly and uncritically every single time. It was always the fault of those administering the beatings, and the fault of others here who were insufficiently loyal to Trump because they didn't rise to defend whatever was his latest narcissistic, puerile adolescent nonsense. If you're going to argue that "optics" shouldn't matter against Trump because the Ds and the media will *always manufacture* bad optics for Rs and others they hate, then stick with that position consistently; I happen to think it's a good one.
I agree that the optics of this *are* very bad for Ted. Were I him I would simply say the trip had been planned and paid in advance, his obligations to his family will always come first, and he fully expects the Ds and media to distort and exaggerate it as much as possible because that's simply what they do. Then he should *without apology* fly back down there and collect them at the end of the week. As a US Senator he is simply not in the chain of accountability or authority for ERCOT, in fact that distinction is precisely *why we have* ERCOT; *all Cruz can do* is virtue signal about it.
The Ds complained in the last few months that Cruz was feckless and cowardly because he rose to the defense of election integrity, a position which could have benefitted Trump, after Trump called Heidi Cruz ugly during the 2016 primaries; Cruz was insufficiently loyal to his family because he didn't carry a grudge against Trump through the stolen election controversy. Now apparently Cruz is *too loyal* to his family because he's spending a few hours looking after his daughters on an international flight rather than handing out bottles of water.
CORRECT YOUR POST. Trump never called Heidi ugly and TED started an attack on Melania....FIRST.
Then TRUMP said. 'Be careful Ted".
Never saw you take that approach when Trump did it. And I never saw you embracing the Dem talking points either. Why so different when it comes to Cruz?
First; POTUS TRUMP is not a professional politician....Ted Cruz, is. No one is embracing any DEM TALKING POINT.
We see how ignorant it is to make a "deal" about CRUZ TRIP.
I'm just spitballing here @Hoodat ...but I'm guessing that some people haven't gotten over the handful of primary wins Cruz got over Trump in 2016.
But after Cruz told the farmers of Iowa in 2016 that he opposed grain ethanol subsidies; after his address at the 2016 Republican National Convention; and after he persevered with objections to the EV count after the Capitol vandalism on 6 January, to argue that he lacks a steel spine is simply absurd.
Cruz put the lie to Trump's "winner" brand when he defeated Trump in Iowa, and Trump never got over it; that's when Trump made it personal against Cruz, launched the "Lyin' Ted" campaign, and carried his character assassination to the point that it damaged the R party and threatened an R Senate seat.
A lot of other people seem to want to keep that personal animus alive indefinitely. It seems that Trump's thin skin is contagious among his most faithful followers.
Cruz never attacked Melania. He...unlike Trump has more class than that. But that doesn't matter to a cultist like you.
I'm just spitballing here @Hoodat ...but I'm guessing that some people haven't gotten over the handful of primary wins Cruz got over Trump in 2016.
Cruz lacks both the steel spine and bond with the voters Donald Trump has.
What they haven't gotten over was Cruz would not say the exact words they demanded in his 2016 Convention speech. After a speech full of words about how Donald Trump was the perfect man for the job and the moral choice he told people to vote their conscience.
He did not say "I endorse Donald Trump," and a segment of the Trumpers decided that meant Trump was not the moral choice. Their own declaration Trump wasn't the right choice is their own fevered imagination and it sticks in their craw.
What they haven't gotten over was Cruz would not say the exact words they demanded in his 2016 Convention speech. After a speech full of words about how Donald Trump was the perfect man for the job and the moral choice he told people to vote their conscience.
He did not say "I endorse Donald Trump," and a segment of the Trumpers decided that meant Trump was not the moral choice. Their declaration Trump wasn't the right choice is their own fevered imagination and it sticks in their craw.
What they haven't gotten over was Cruz would not say the exact words they demanded in his 2016 Convention speech. After a speech full of words about how Donald Trump was the perfect man for the job and the moral choice he told people to vote their conscience.
He did not say "I endorse Donald Trump," and a segment of the Trumpers decided that meant Trump was not the moral choice. Their own declaration Trump wasn't the right choice is their own fevered imagination and it sticks in their craw.
Thanks, I forgot about that. Ted Cruz BEGGED to speak at this event. He showed his speech to TRUMP officials, it was approved, then Ted Cruz...with all his "class"....changed it! Then he went on the A/F 1 WITH OBAMA. He is a snake.
After a speech full of words about how Donald Trump was the perfect man for the job and the moral choice he told people to vote their conscience.
He did not say "I endorse Donald Trump," and a segment of the Trumpers decided that meant Trump was not the moral choice. Their own declaration Trump wasn't the right choice is their own fevered imagination and it sticks in their craw.
:thud: Oh, for the love of God, I knew there was a reason I had, had you on ignore! :shrug:
The only way anyone could be offended by Cruz's 2016 Convention speech would be if they felt a vote for Trump would *violate* conscience but they intended to cast that vote anyway; the simplest and most consistent response to Cruz in 2016 would have been "thanks for the confirmation Ted, I *am* voting my conscience." Oddly, I've never heard any in the Trump camp offer that reaction to Cruz's remarks.
Cruz *doesn't* have the strong bond with millions that Trump has; no question about it.
But after Cruz told the farmers of Iowa in 2016 that he opposed grain ethanol subsidies; after his address at the 2016 Republican National Convention; and after he persevered with objections to the EV count after the Capitol vandalism on 6 January, to argue that he lacks a steel spine is simply absurd. With regret, there is just no other way to describe that statement.
This topic has nothing to do with Trump..how he got included in this conversation is beyond me...
:yowsa: I say it's either time for pie or exploding a few golf balls for crying out loud!
If we can call this heavenly slice of raspberry chocolate cheesecake "pie", I vote we start with this @libertybele happy77
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If we can call this heavenly slice of raspberry chocolate cheesecake "pie", I vote we start with this @libertybele happy77
(https://sweetpeaskitchen.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Instant-Pot-White-Chocolate-Raspberry-Cheesecake-a-1-scaled.jpg)
It seems like nothing Cruz says he'll do in Congress ever gets done. Ever. Why is this @HoustonSam ?
Could it be that Cruz, who has chosen politics for his career, still has not developed the spine it takes to be consequential? (BTW, please notice I've posted this without mimicking your demeaning faux "regret".)
Anything with Oreo crust gets my undivided attention....
Hot damn that looks good!
The only thing I can figure is that Cruz found principled reasons to support Trump's agenda...
It does ... but I switched to my second choice ... raspberry cheesecake crumb cake ... :laugh: (Whipped cream is optional)
(https://omgchocolatedesserts.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Raspberry-Cheesecake-Crumb-Cake-featured.jpg)
It's just a Hell of a way to treat Trump's biggest supporter in the Senate is all I have to say on it.Cruz is unelectable as president....just not gonna happen. He just doesn't have the personality for it.
Asking how the smartest man in any room could not see the Democrat propaganda coming is not agreeing with the democrat propaganda @Hoodat It's asking how a professional politician with an advanced intellect harboring plans to run for President could be so stupid.
@HoustonSam
That's what most of us did. I found those reasons too.
This topic has nothing to do with Trump..how he got included in this conversation is beyond me...
Cruz is unelectable as president....just not gonna happen. He just doesn't have the personality for it.
Cruz is doing a GREAT job in the senate, so all of you Cruz haters...give it a rest! What a bunch of babies!
:amen:
The smartest man in the room would know it's coming anyway, no matter what he does and pay it no mind.
Cruz is unelectable as president....just not gonna happen. He just doesn't have the personality for it.
Cruz is doing a GREAT job in the senate, so all of you Cruz haters...give it a rest! What a bunch of babies!
:amen:
Screw this eatin pie for peace shit I say now is the perfect time to run all the Trumpers outta this place. Should I start a Poll? yogi555
Yep, exactly like that "very stable genius" who knows "all the best words" and "only picks the best people" while playing flying, invisible, 9-dimensional stealth jedi chess that *no one* else understands.
But it seems that some get credit for that kind of practical approach, while others get blamed for it. Now why would that be?
So you can argue that calling McConnell a liar indicates a lack of spine, but no one will believe you. Trump's "steel spine" manifested itself in late night tweet meltdowns reminiscent of a teenage girl jilted by her prom date; Cruz takes principled positions and sticks with them, in person and straight to people's face. And that's precisely why he doesn't pass your fictional test for being "consequential"; he actually *does* the things you credit Trump for doing - he says his piece without apology and lets the chips fall where they may. That's not a recipe for popularity. I don't agree with everything Cruz says and does, but I respect him.
It continues to amaze me that the person who probably did more than any other *materially* to support Trump's agenda, certainly during the EV count, is the one you continue to belittle and criticize. The only thing I can figure is that Cruz found principled reasons to support Trump's agenda rather than slavishly falling into mind-numbed sycophancy, and for some reason that bothers you.
Why would that bother you @Right_in_Virginia ?
:beer:
That's why I like you @HoustonSam
Facts. Unadulterated, but for a pinch of well placed sarcasm.
I think you all have misunderstood what @Right_in_Virginia and I were trying to say.
We feel Cruz made a huge error leaving Texas for Cancun..I don't care if it was to escort his family to Mexico...the perception is there that he left his state when it needed him...he is their voice in DC to get help and aide.
Whether he runs for president or re-election this will come back to haunt him..it was a tactical error on his part and his staff.
You're wrong.I wish I was wrong. I have a very close relative that worked for Cruz when he was Solicitor General in Texas. He was not known as a people person and was very challenging to get along with.... He is a VERY talented legislator, but just doesn't come across very well on the public stage.
Yup. That's it. He's now got damage control ahead of him.
For those interested Cruz will be on Hannity after the commercial break...
I wish I was wrong. I have a very close relative that worked for Cruz when he was Solicitor General in Texas. He was not known as a people person and was very challenging to get along with.... He is a VERY talented legislator, but just doesn't come across very well on the public stage.
I supported Cruz over Trump in the Texas primary. He just doesn't have the gift of BS like is needed to run for President.
@txradioguy
I wish I was wrong. I have a very close relative that worked for Cruz when he was Solicitor General in Texas. He was not known as a people person and was very challenging to get along with.... He is a VERY talented legislator, but just doesn't come across very well on the public stage.
I supported Cruz over Trump in the Texas primary. He just doesn't have the gift of BS like is needed to run for President.
@txradioguy
I only read the last line of your post @HoustonSam and decided that was enough condescension for my tastes. I will, however, be happy to read any non-condescending post you make on another subject.
To sum up where we are: I'm not interested in another Trump v Cruz discussion. Nor do I want to continue scratching beneath Cruz's façade. Getting back to the topic of this thread: I simply think Cruz made a mistake to feed the negative perceptions voters have of him.
:seeya:
It means much that I can rely on your friendship and support @roamer_1. I hope some day our paths will cross in person.
I wish I was wrong. I have a very close relative that worked for Cruz when he was Solicitor General in Texas. He was not known as a people person and was very challenging to get along with.... He is a VERY talented legislator, but just doesn't come across very well on the public stage.
And yet everyone praises Trump to the high Heavens for being gruff...blunt and not people friendly.
He's one of...if not the most Conservative politician we've had run for President since Reagan. He speaks to the people...not the tv cameras and the idiots on CNN.
Please see my post about "optics" earlier and why I give less than a damn about whether he looks good for the press or has the gift of BS.
If he stands up for and espouses the conservative principals most Americans live their life by...he's pro military and strong on defense...fiscally conservative...which he checks all those blocks then optics be dammed he's the one this country needs.
Cruz was my write in vote in the national election in 2016.
And I would have no reservation voting for him again in 2024.
It does ... but I switched to my second choice ... raspberry cheesecake crumb cake ... :laugh: (Whipped cream is optional)
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After landing back in the United States, Mr. Cruz offered a new statement with a different tone from earlier in the day, when he had tried to explain the vacation without regrets and left the impression that it might have always been a one-day trip for him. Speaking to reporters after his arrival home, he conceded that the trip was “obviously a mistake†and said he had begun having “second thoughts†as soon as he boarded the plane to Mexico intent on a few days of remote work in the sun.
“The plan had been to stay through the weekend with the family,†he said, framing the decision as a parent’s attempt to placate his two daughters, ages 10 and 12, after a “tough week.â€
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/18/us/politics/ted-cruz-storm-cancun.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/18/us/politics/ted-cruz-storm-cancun.html)
Whipped creme is NEVER optional! IT IS A MUST! :yowsa:
Cruz is who this country needed in '16 and he is who this country needs now. Period. He took a trip to Mexico during an ice storm. Let the leftists squeal like the idiots they are. Those on the right....seriously?
Whipped creme is NEVER optional! IT IS A MUST! :yowsa:
This thread has such a 2016 feel to it. **nononono*
I'm serving pie and cognac to change the mood. pointing-up
Typical republicans...circle the wagons and shoot each other. Our country is literally going to hell and this is what you worry about??????Right!FFS, the guy (who could) flew someplace warmer. Who wouldn't?
The only way anyone could be offended by Cruz's 2016 Convention speech would be if they felt a vote for Trump would *violate* conscience but they intended to cast that vote anyway; the simplest and most consistent response to Cruz in 2016 would have been "thanks for the confirmation Ted, I *am* voting my conscience." Oddly, I've never heard any in the Trump camp offer that reaction to Cruz's remarks.Cruz essentially provided a synopsis of what a Conservative President would do, leading any conscience vote to go towards that Conservative candidate. One would think that such a description would be embraced at a GOP Convention. But it wasn't. Delegates were already heckling Cruz mid-speech because they already knew what he was going to say.
Mrs. Cruz apparently invited a neighbor to join them in Mexico, because it was so freezing cold at home. The neighbor, oh so nicely, turned the text messages over to the NYT - which published them. How's that for journalistic ethics?
Cruz essentially provided a synopsis of what a Conservative President would do, leading any conscience vote to go towards that Conservative candidate. One would think that such a description would be embraced at a GOP Convention. But it wasn't. Delegates were already heckling Cruz mid-speech because they already knew what he was going to say.
In fairness to Trump though, these were not 'Trump' delegates per se. These were GOPe delegates hand-picked by the Party establishment throughout the primary. And it is insulting to see Trump zealots here still embracing the GOPe narrative four years later.
With neighbors that share personal texts for political gain, I believe Mrs. Cruz should find new friends.
Leaked texts reveal Ted Cruz’s wife invited neighbors to Cancun amid ‘FREEZING’ weather
https://nypost.com/2021/02/19/heidi-cruz-reportedly-invited-neighbors-to-cancun/
BTW Cruz admitted last night on Hannity that he was going to stay through the weekend, it was not a turn-around trip to escort his family to Mexico as first reported.
He admitted his error in judgment.
Cruz says 'it was a mistake' to go to Cancun amid Texas arctic blast
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/539524-cruz-says-it-was-a-mistake-to-go-to-cancun-amid-texas-arctic-blast
With neighbors that share personal texts for political gain, I believe Mrs. Cruz should find new friends.
In fact many deride the GOPe for insufficient loyalty to Trump, in spite of this very stacking the deck against Cruz at the convention. News came out here in TX that our Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, whose position on property taxation I generally favor, threatened to end the continued political career of any TX delegate who failed to show adequate support for Trump during the convention.
Bottom line is the Ds will always hate Cruz because he's an uncompromising, principled *Conservative*, and the pro-Trump faction will always hate Cruz because he's an *uncompromising, principled* Conservative. Isn't it interesting that the sight of an actual *uncompromising, principled Conservative* unites them?
That is entirely correct.Well, no it's not. I fully appreciate Cruz and what he stands for, as with Trump. My ego has no dog in this hunt, I care only about what I see as good for the nation. Its the same with most of us here.
It is very popular on the right to criticize *uncompromising, principled* Conservatives... Ask me how I know. Even here, on one of the premiere Conservative forums on the web. But I ain't telling you nothin.
Besides, what was he supposed to do? Use up more energy posturing somewhere about how hard people have it to people who have it hard?
Well, no it's not. I fully appreciate Cruz and what he stands for, as with Trump. My ego has no dog in this hunt, I care only about what I see as good for the nation. Its the same with most of us here.
And the only reason you catch criticism here is because you sho' nuff dish it out.
This thread has such a 2016 feel to it. **nononono*
Cruz essentially provided a synopsis of what a Conservative President would do, leading any conscience vote to go towards that Conservative candidate. One would think that such a description would be embraced at a GOP Convention. But it wasn't. Delegates were already heckling Cruz mid-speech because they already knew what he was going to say.
In fairness to Trump though, these were not 'Trump' delegates per se. These were GOPe delegates hand-picked by the Party establishment throughout the primary. And it is insulting to see Trump zealots here still embracing the GOPe narrative four years later.
Like I said many pages ago, this is just a distraction. How about we discuss how Biden has failed to involve FEMA in any of these winter disasters, or why the National Guard is still occupying D.C., or how Biden took an Iranian terror group off the terror list (see my thread in Politics), or how Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement, which will cost 2.7 million Americans their jobs.
But Ted took his family to Cancun. 8888crybaby
Yes. It is not only insulting but extremely disheartening.
Like I said many pages ago, this is just a distraction. How about we discuss how Biden has failed to involve FEMA in any of these winter disasters, or why the National Guard is still occupying D.C., or how Biden took an Iranian terror group off the terror list (see my thread in Politics), or how Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement, which will cost 2.7 million Americans their jobs.
But Ted took his family to Cancun. 8888crybaby
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And, as you so aptly noted, Biden's lack of response is calculated to harm Governor Abbott. Throwing Cruz into the kettle helps harm the Republican brand in a state the Dems desperately want to flip red.
Like I said many pages ago, this is just a distraction. How about we discuss how Biden has failed to involve FEMA in any of these winter disasters, or why the National Guard is still occupying D.C., or how Biden took an Iranian terror group off the terror list (see my thread in Politics), or how Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement, which will cost 2.7 million Americans their jobs.
But Ted took his family to Cancun. 8888crybaby
Cruz essentially provided a synopsis of what a Conservative President would do, leading any conscience vote to go towards that Conservative candidate. One would think that such a description would be embraced at a GOP Convention. But it wasn't. Delegates were already heckling Cruz mid-speech because they already knew what he was going to say.
In fairness to Trump though, these were not 'Trump' delegates per se. These were GOPe delegates hand-picked by the Party establishment throughout the primary. And it is insulting to see Trump zealots here still embracing the GOPe narrative four years later.
Leaked texts reveal Ted Cruz’s wife invited neighbors to Cancun amid ‘FREEZING’ weather
https://nypost.com/2021/02/19/heidi-cruz-reportedly-invited-neighbors-to-cancun/
BTW Cruz admitted last night on Hannity that he was going to stay through the weekend, it was not a turn-around trip to escort his family to Mexico as first reported.
He admitted his error in judgment.
Cruz says 'it was a mistake' to go to Cancun amid Texas arctic blast
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/539524-cruz-says-it-was-a-mistake-to-go-to-cancun-amid-texas-arctic-blast
Cruz essentially provided a synopsis of what a Conservative President would do, leading any conscience vote to go towards that Conservative candidate. One would think that such a description would be embraced at a GOP Convention.
Like I said many pages ago, this is just a distraction. How about we discuss how Biden has failed to involve FEMA in any of these winter disasters, or why the National Guard is still occupying D.C., or how Biden took an Iranian terror group off the terror list (see my thread in Politics), or how Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement, which will cost 2.7 million Americans their jobs.
But Ted took his family to Cancun. 8888crybaby
Good interview of Cruz on the Hannity show. Ted said his electricity had been off for 2 days and it was 30 degrees in the house. His girls wanted to take a trip...so they did.
Oh the horror!!!!
If Ted Cruz had 1/16th the bond with the American voters Donald Trump has, I would not be concerned about Cruz's optics, either.
But Cruz does not. And apparently he has no plans to build one. :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
@Right_in_Virginia
Ok, I'm gonna say it... clearly and concisely... lest it be misunderstood.
F#CK the optics. We just had an election stolen right out from under us by the same aholes that are bleating against Cruz for rescuing his family from a 30-degree freezing house...by escorting them to a warm, nice place. I personally don't give a $hit what the optics are and Cruz doesn't either. I respect him (for that) even more now than I already did. And to anyone that prefers to bash Cruz and demonize him for his choices, considering how royally we on the right have been screwed...
I sincerely say GFY!!!
Jeez Briefers I was just kidding when I recommended 'now would be the perfect time to throw all the Trumpers off TBR'. 22222frying pan
@Right_in_Virginia
Ok, I'm gonna say it... clearly and concisely... lest it be misunderstood.
F#CK the optics. We just had an election stolen right out from under us by the same aholes that are bleating against Cruz for rescuing his family from a 30-degree freezing house...by escorting them to a warm, nice place. I personally don't give a $hit what the optics are and Cruz doesn't either. I respect him (for that) even more now than I already did. And to anyone that prefers to bash Cruz and demonize him for his choices, considering how royally we on the right have been screwed... I sincerely say GFY!!!
Like I said many pages ago, this is just a distraction. How about we discuss how Biden has failed to involve FEMA in any of these winter disasters, or why the National Guard is still occupying D.C., or how Biden took an Iranian terror group off the terror list (see my thread in Politics), or how Biden rejoined the Paris Climate Agreement, which will cost 2.7 million Americans their jobs.
But Ted took his family to Cancun. 8888crybaby
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Any Key Lime Pie in the case? You know the kind with the dabs of creme/sour creme on them?
Settle back and enjoy! happy77
(https://stjamescrabhouse.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Key-Lime-Pie.jpg)
That's not authentic key lime pie. That is some bootleg version made with condensed milk.
I'm seeing on display some of the techniques used to keep DC so swampy. They throw a piece of red meat out and let everyone have at it. Then they network the "appropriate outrage" response through their talking points memos, tweets, Facebook pages, etc. If they push it relentlessly enough, and if they can get squishy Republicans to join in, they will be able to rule the narrative. It's not simply that they're hollering "squirrel!"-- it's that they get us to wound one of our own in the process.
"Optics" is the word that rules this news cycle, and it's pitiful to see people from my side of the aisle carrying on as if it mattered. Leftists will always find this optic or that optic to play up. That's a given. For me it's pukeworthy to see the right join in. It's such a GOPe thing to do. We need to decide if we're going to work to drain the swamp or if we're just going to swim around it like all the others.
Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) Tweeted:
Right when it was revealed that the FBI is investigating Cuomo over the nursing home scandal, suddenly the media starts focusing intensely on the Cruz family's trip to Cancun. If you're a conservative going along with this obvious bullshit distraction technique, you're useless. (emphasis mine)
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1362550385689440263?s=20
I still have not heard one single valid reason why he as a legislator is less effective down there instead of Houston. NWS forecasts saw something bad coming a week before. What prevented any person to avoid it to drive or fly 500 miles plus or minus east or west to avoid the event? This faux outrage rings hollow to me.@catfish1957
Any word on whether or not Cruz will again be a good dad and fly back to Cancun to bring home the family?
@catfish1957
Cat, before the Cruz family left they were at home in Houston. if you had been Cruz you would have left also. Have you seen his house? I have driven past it. He and family live in a high-rise condo building in downtown Houston. There is no way that tall building has power or water and will be among the last to get water due to frozen pipes in the building bursting likely on many floors. I doubt he is in that building now since flying back from Mexico.
We did not lose power or water. I think this house is on a circuit with critical use buildings - city police/city hall. The electric company would not give this area rolling blackouts. Less than two miles from this house, there has been no power, no water.
@Right_in_Virginia
Ok, I'm gonna say it... clearly and concisely... lest it be misunderstood.
F#CK the optics. We just had an election stolen right out from under us by the same aholes that are bleating against Cruz for rescuing his family from a 30-degree freezing house...by escorting them to a warm, nice place. I personally don't give a $hit what the optics are and Cruz doesn't either. I respect him (for that) even more now than I already did. And to anyone that prefers to bash Cruz and demonize him for his choices, considering how royally we on the right have been screwed...
I sincerely say GFY!!!
@catfish1957
Cat, before the Cruz family left they were at home in Houston. If you had been Cruz you would have left also. Have you seen his house? I have driven past it. He and family live in a high-rise condo building in downtown Houston. There is no way that tall building has power or water and will be among the last to get water due to frozen pipes in the building bursting likely on many floors. I doubt he is in that building now since flying back from Mexico. So, I think he got the family out of that building by going to Mexico.
That description sure don't match with this pic of Cruz's Home.
(https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/02/ted-cruz-5.jpg)
At any rate, he's a Senator. Not the governor.
This media frenzy over him going to Mexico during an ice storm is ridiculous and absurd.
How many Libs took vacations or were eating with friends at trendy eating establishment or whisking a family member from a nursing home while imposing draconian lockdown rules on us lowly proles?
At any rate, he's a Senator. Not the governor.
This media frenzy over him going to Mexico during an ice storm is ridiculous and absurd.
@Right_in_VirginiaYep!
Ok, I'm gonna say it... clearly and concisely... lest it be misunderstood.
F#CK the optics. We just had an election stolen right out from under us by the same aholes that are bleating against Cruz for rescuing his family from a 30-degree freezing house...by escorting them to a warm, nice place. I personally don't give a $hit what the optics are and Cruz doesn't either. I respect him (for that) even more now than I already did. And to anyone that prefers to bash Cruz and demonize him for his choices, considering how royally we on the right have been screwed...
I sincerely say GFY!!!