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Title: Google Will Hit 100% Renewable Energy This Year
Post by: Suppressed on October 11, 2017, 02:30:36 pm
Google Will Hit 100% Renewable Energy This Year
The company is primarily powered by wind and solar energy.
By Allee Manning on October 10, 2017
https://www.inverse.com/article/37308-google-renewable-energy-goal

Google has announced that after 10 years a carbon-neutral company, it will be able to brag running on entirely renewable energy at the end of 2017. That means that all of the electricity the company consumes in both its data centers and offices are provided by wind and solar energy.

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Title: Re: Google Will Hit 100% Renewable Energy This Year
Post by: Joe Wooten on October 12, 2017, 01:22:54 pm
BULL$HIT!

Once the electricity is on the grid, you cannot tell if it came from a windmill or a dirt burner. "Renewables" are such a small part of the overall production and so unreliable, that most of the time you are consuming electricity made from "non-renewable" sources. Wind/solar also complicate grid voltage stability, which means the coal/gas/nuke plants have to ramp up the MVARs they generate to keep grid voltage and frequency stable. Small distributed generators cannot do this
Title: Re: Google Will Hit 100% Renewable Energy This Year
Post by: driftdiver on October 12, 2017, 01:29:24 pm
I find this hard to believe.  Data centers require a tremendous amount of electricity.
Title: Re: Google Will Hit 100% Renewable Energy This Year
Post by: Suppressed on October 12, 2017, 01:55:19 pm
BULL$HIT!

Once the electricity is on the grid, you cannot tell if it came from a windmill or a dirt burner. "Renewables" are such a small part of the overall production and so unreliable, that most of the time you are consuming electricity made from "non-renewable" sources. Wind/solar also complicate grid voltage stability, which means the coal/gas/nuke plants have to ramp up the MVARs they generate to keep grid voltage and frequency stable. Small distributed generators cannot do this

Considering Google has built a lot of generating capacity, I'd say that's what their energy is from.  It doesn't matter which check I cashed to get a dollar bill, if it's the "splurge" from my grandmother's birthday check, it doesn't matter which dollar bill I pull from my wallet.  Fungible.
 
They also purchase "green" energy.
Title: Re: Google Will Hit 100% Renewable Energy This Year
Post by: Suppressed on October 12, 2017, 01:55:48 pm
I find this hard to believe.  Data centers require a tremendous amount of electricity.

DeepMind AI has reduced that need, but yes, they still need a huge amount.
Title: Re: Google Will Hit 100% Renewable Energy This Year
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on October 12, 2017, 04:22:24 pm
This is nothing but a 'feel good' story and cannot possibly be true.  The wind don't always blow and the sun don't always shine, so they may claim they are 100% renewable, they cannot possibly exist as a company like that.