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Title: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: mystery-ak on July 21, 2014, 07:36:21 pm
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Bernard Goldberg
Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama?
Posted: July 20, 2014

I don’t get it.  According to Rasmussen, 47 percent of likely voters approve of the job President Obama is doing.

Yes, it’s true that more disapprove – 52 percent.  And the breakdown reveals that while only 24 percent “strongly approve” of the job the president is doing, 41 percent “strongly disapprove.”

But I’m fixated on the fact that nearly half the likely voters polled think Mr. Obama is doing just fine — or better.

Yes, I know that a certain percentage of Americans would continue to slobber over this president and say they approve of his job performance even if they had just seen a video of him in Red Square making a deal with Vladimir Putin to sell half the United States west of the Mississippi to Russia for $1.98.

But 47 percent?

They called Ronald Reagan the Teflon president but the title now belongs to Barack Obama.  Nothing sticks to him.  Not Fast and Furious, not the trouble associated with ObamaCare, not Benghazi, not the IRS scandal, not the deal for Bergdahl, I’m betting not the border crisis and not anything else, including his less than forceful response to Mr. Putin for Russia’s role in the Malaysian plane disaster.

Apparently not the anemic economic recovery, either.  Last month, the U.S. registered a gain of 288,000 jobs.  Sounds good, right?  But here’s the rest of the story:  That same month we lost 523,000 full time jobs and gained 799,000 part time jobs.  There were only 12,000 new full time jobs created.

Americans know Mr. Obama is not doing well handling the economy — and they give him low marks when pollsters ask.  But still, nearly half approve of his job performance.  Huh?

A day after four Americans were killed in Benghazi, the president hopped on Air Force One for a fundraiser in Las Vegas.  A week or so ago he went to Texas for more fundraisers but didn’t want to take time out to personally see what’s going on at the border.  That would have been nothing more than a photo-op, he said. And hours after nearly 300 innocents were shot out of the sky, he went to New York for more fundraisers.

And 47 percent of Americans think he’s doing a good job?!

Either Rasmussen is suddenly a lousy pollster or half the American electorate don’t know enough to qualify even as low information voters.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Relic on July 21, 2014, 07:41:02 pm
Either Rasmussen is suddenly a lousy pollster or half the American electorate don’t know enough to qualify even as low information voters.

Yes, on both counts.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: MACVSOG68 on July 21, 2014, 07:52:33 pm
A lot of people still like Obama as a person, and some continue to listen to the media concentrating on Republican resistance to his policies.  And some of course are simply trying to ratify their own choices in the past two elections.  But a slight scratch below the surface of these polls finds a lot of very frustrated voters, those who think he's sold out the left, and those of us who know how far left he really is.  Look at some of the recent issues polls to see just how bad his approval ratings really are.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: andy58-in-nh on July 21, 2014, 07:54:28 pm
A: "47 percent?"
 
Q: What percentage of American adults currently pay no income taxes?
 


 
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Relic on July 21, 2014, 08:05:11 pm
A lot of people still like Obama as a person, and some continue to listen to the media concentrating on Republican resistance to his policies.  And some of course are simply trying to ratify their own choices in the past two elections.  But a slight scratch below the surface of these polls finds a lot of very frustrated voters, those who think he's sold out the left, and those of us who know how far left he really is.  Look at some of the recent issues polls to see just how bad his approval ratings really are.

And surely those frustrated voters will seek refuge in the next establishment GOP candidate who will promise what? Because we can be certain that if you elect a Republican, you'll get... what?

Or maybe they'll just choose Liz Warren because as anyone knows, Democrats are for the people.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: MACVSOG68 on July 21, 2014, 08:48:08 pm
And surely those frustrated voters will seek refuge in the next establishment GOP candidate who will promise what? Because we can be certain that if you elect a Republican, you'll get... what?

Or maybe they'll just choose Liz Warren because as anyone knows, Democrats are for the people.

The left does want Warren, who's very popular with CPUSA and Peoples' World.  As for the next GOP candidate, I really hope that we have a vigorous group of candidates from all parts of the Republican Party, but in the end, just as you supported Romney, we need to support the winner.  What we'll get is of course is unknown, since the Republican, whoever he or she is, will have a congress to deal with that may not be friendly.  But after eight years of Obama, I'd vote for a flying squirrel if it was a Republican.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Lando Lincoln on July 21, 2014, 09:15:04 pm
The left does want Warren, who's very popular with CPUSA and Peoples' World.  As for the next GOP candidate, I really hope that we have a vigorous group of candidates from all parts of the Republican Party, but in the end, just as you supported Romney, we need to support the winner.  What we'll get is of course is unknown, since the Republican, whoever he or she is, will have a congress to deal with that may not be friendly.  But after eight years of Obama, I'd vote for a flying squirrel if it was a Republican.

The left never ceases to astonish and their love affair with Warren is mind-numbing. 

As for us on the Right, we will attempt to commit political fratricide because of some noble standard in which the selected candidate fails to measure up properly. 

This whole process is always messy.  But... this will get ugly.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Relic on July 21, 2014, 09:20:48 pm
The left never ceases to astonish and their love affair with Warren is mind-numbing. 

As for us on the Right, we will attempt to commit political fratricide because of some noble standard in which the selected candidate fails to measure up properly. 

This whole process is always messy.  But... this will get ugly.

I'm demanding as all get out. I want a candidate that clearly articulates what he or she stands for, and actually makes an attempt to hold to their own stated standard.

Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Lando Lincoln on July 21, 2014, 09:31:11 pm
My apologies Relic.  I may have inadvertently messed up your post.  Full disclosure - I was installed as a Mod long ago.  I have never, ever - not one time exercised it.  Until now - and it was inadvertent.  My sincere apologies.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Relic on July 21, 2014, 09:35:21 pm
My apologies Relic.  I may have inadvertently messed up your post.  Full disclosure - I was installed as a Mod long ago.  I have never, ever - not one time exercised it.  Until now - and it was inadvertent.  My sincere apologies.

Well, at least you picked on an "extremist".  :silly:
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Lando Lincoln on July 21, 2014, 09:36:27 pm
Well, at least you picked on an "extremist".  :silly:

Thanks man.  I was going to respond with something exceedingly intelligent.  Now, I am discombobulated. 
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: 240B on July 21, 2014, 10:43:47 pm
The left does want Warren, who's very popular with CPUSA and Peoples' World.  As for the next GOP candidate, I really hope that we have a vigorous group of candidates from all parts of the Republican Party, but in the end, just as you supported Romney, we need to support the winner.  What we'll get is of course is unknown, since the Republican, whoever he or she is, will have a congress to deal with that may not be friendly.  But after eight years of Obama, I'd vote for a flying squirrel if it was a Republican.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65t-OzhlmvE)
 
Honestly, I would prefer Warren over Hillary. I don't think she has what it takes, and she has a lot of baggage. If we can get anyone, even Romney, who is even just tolerable, she can be beaten.
 
That American Indian scam she pulled is going to come back to bite her. If I was a blond haired, blue eyed, White girl, I wouldn't run around the country claiming that I am a Black woman, even if my great grandfather was in fact Black. Still, the blond hair and the blue eyes would sort of nullify that, even if it was true, which in her case it is not.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: PzLdr on July 21, 2014, 10:48:54 pm
Why? Because Obamacare doesn't cover brain transplants.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: 240B on July 21, 2014, 10:52:51 pm
Half the voters are just slobbering period. They can't help it.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: MACVSOG68 on July 21, 2014, 11:00:14 pm

Honestly, I would prefer Warren over Hillary. I don't think she has what it takes, and she has a lot of baggage. If we can get anyone, even Romney, who is even just tolerable, she can be beaten.
 
That American Indian scam she pulled is going to come back to bite her. If I was a blond haired, blue eyed, White girl, I wouldn't run around the country claiming that I am a Black woman, even if my great grandfather was in fact Black. Still, the blond hair and the blue eyes would sort of nullify that, even if it was true, which in her case it is not.

That's no way to talk about Pocahontas...
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: speekinout on July 22, 2014, 12:42:02 am
That's no way to talk about Pocahontas...

Let me correct your spelling -  That's "Fauxcahontas".   :whistle:
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Fishrrman on July 22, 2014, 02:18:10 am
[[ Let me correct your spelling -  That's "Fauxcahontas". ]]

I kinda like "Lieawatha", myself...  :)
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Chieftain on July 22, 2014, 02:49:00 am
[[ Let me correct your spelling -  That's "Fauxcahontas". ]]

I kinda like "Lieawatha", myself...  :)

Don't forget about "Brokahontas"........

 :beer:
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Oceander on July 22, 2014, 03:22:37 am
A lot of people still like Obama as a person, and some continue to listen to the media concentrating on Republican resistance to his policies.  And some of course are simply trying to ratify their own choices in the past two elections.  But a slight scratch below the surface of these polls finds a lot of very frustrated voters, those who think he's sold out the left, and those of us who know how far left he really is.  Look at some of the recent issues polls to see just how bad his approval ratings really are.

That being said, how will those sentiments transfer to the 2014 and 2016 elections?  There may be a lot of cognitive dissonance over Obuttocks, but that might have precious little impact on how these same dolts vote for Congress, or for the next president.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: R4 TrumPence on July 22, 2014, 04:40:54 am
The left does want Warren, who's very popular with CPUSA and Peoples' World.  As for the next GOP candidate, I really hope that we have a vigorous group of candidates from all parts of the Republican Party, but in the end, just as you supported Romney, we need to support the winner.  What we'll get is of course is unknown, since the Republican, whoever he or she is, will have a congress to deal with that may not be friendly.  But after eight years of Obama, I'd vote for a flying squirrel if it was a Republican.


I agree!! I am a conservative, but I also look at the big picture.  I want the WH back! We have to get it out of the leftist's hands period! Whatever or whoever it takes that can do that. 

At this point, unless it is Ron Paul..LOL  I will vote for him/her. Would I like a conservative? Absolutely! But the country is in such bad shape, we need anyone that loves this country and is a capitalist!

While there are areas that social and fiscal overlap,  right now I looking at fiscal and strong leader of the Free World! We can deal with the other stuff later! But as long as we have our stay at home voters, because our candidate isn't 1000% conservative, we are screwed!  We have to look at the big picture this time and not go down this road again. 

Criteria this time should be :
Economy/Jobs
Border Security/immigration
Military Rebuilding/ Power

There are a lot of others but to me, those are most necessary for our survival!




Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: MACVSOG68 on July 22, 2014, 12:03:12 pm
Don't forget about "Brokahontas"........

 :beer:

Almost forgot.   :beer:
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: MACVSOG68 on July 22, 2014, 12:18:18 pm
That being said, how will those sentiments transfer to the 2014 and 2016 elections?  There may be a lot of cognitive dissonance over Obuttocks, but that might have precious little impact on how these same dolts vote for Congress, or for the next president.

Yeah if only things were that easy.  But we do know that the Dems will put their money on the racism, sexism and homophobia memes.  They will also take anything questionable said by any GOP candidate and spread it over the entire election.  It has worked in the past and given that Obama has really nothing to brag about for his 5 1/2 years, this will be the main thrust in '14 and likely in '16.  And of course we now know that immigration reform may well be the only "positive" issue the Dems have.

But the Republicans have plenty of issues to focus on.  2014 though, IMHO, could be very problematic if the rancor and even hostility reflected here of late is representative of the GOP in general.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: MACVSOG68 on July 22, 2014, 12:20:50 pm

I agree!! I am a conservative, but I also look at the big picture.  I want the WH back! We have to get it out of the leftist's hands period! Whatever or whoever it takes that can do that. 

At this point, unless it is Ron Paul..LOL  I will vote for him/her. Would I like a conservative? Absolutely! But the country is in such bad shape, we need anyone that loves this country and is a capitalist!

While there are areas that social and fiscal overlap,  right now I looking at fiscal and strong leader of the Free World! We can deal with the other stuff later! But as long as we have our stay at home voters, because our candidate isn't 1000% conservative, we are screwed!  We have to look at the big picture this time and not go down this road again. 

Criteria this time should be :
Economy/Jobs
Border Security/immigration
Military Rebuilding/ Power

There are a lot of others but to me, those are most necessary for our survival!

I believe you've said it all.  Two targets: Harry Reid in 2014 and the White House in 2016!
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Relic on July 22, 2014, 01:17:03 pm

I agree!! I am a conservative, but I also look at the big picture.  I want the WH back! We have to get it out of the leftist's hands period! Whatever or whoever it takes that can do that. 

At this point, unless it is Ron Paul..LOL  I will vote for him/her. Would I like a conservative? Absolutely! But the country is in such bad shape, we need anyone that loves this country and is a capitalist!

While there are areas that social and fiscal overlap,  right now I looking at fiscal and strong leader of the Free World! We can deal with the other stuff later! But as long as we have our stay at home voters, because our candidate isn't 1000% conservative, we are screwed!  We have to look at the big picture this time and not go down this road again. 

Criteria this time should be :
Economy/Jobs
Border Security/immigration
Military Rebuilding/ Power

There are a lot of others but to me, those are most necessary for our survival!

Good call. Here's the problem. Show me an electable Republican candidate that will adhere to that.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: speekinout on July 22, 2014, 07:12:45 pm
I believe you've said it all.  Two targets: Harry Reid in 2014 and the White House in 2016!

 :amen:
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Oceander on July 22, 2014, 07:17:32 pm
Yeah if only things were that easy.  But we do know that the Dems will put their money on the racism, sexism and homophobia memes.  They will also take anything questionable said by any GOP candidate and spread it over the entire election.  It has worked in the past and given that Obama has really nothing to brag about for his 5 1/2 years, this will be the main thrust in '14 and likely in '16.  And of course we now know that immigration reform may well be the only "positive" issue the Dems have.

But the Republicans have plenty of issues to focus on.  2014 though, IMHO, could be very problematic if the rancor and even hostility reflected here of late is representative of the GOP in general.

with all due respect, it seems to me that your concern over the rancor and hostility here (of late) is misplaced; there is a lot more unanimity here when it comes to practical matters than when it comes to discussion topics.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Relic on July 22, 2014, 07:24:27 pm
with all due respect, it seems to me that your concern over the rancor and hostility here (of late) is misplaced; there is a lot more unanimity here when it comes to practical matters than when it comes to discussion topics.

It seems to me, just my observation, that the establishment types are angered and disgusted by anyone who won't back the party, simply because it is the party.

I absolutely hate what Democrats stand for.

I absolutely hate what Republicans won't stand for.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Oceander on July 22, 2014, 07:27:01 pm
It seems to me, just my observation, that the establishment types are angered and disgusted by anyone who won't back the party, simply because it is the party.

I absolutely hate what Democrats stand for.

I absolutely hate what Republicans won't stand for.


and yet you still live in a world where your only to practical choices are democrat or republican, and if you don't go republican than you have as good as gone democrat.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Relic on July 22, 2014, 07:28:45 pm

and yet you still live in a world where your only to practical choices are democrat or republican, and if you don't go republican than you have as good as gone democrat.

And I am in the camp that says, often that is a difference with no distinction.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: MACVSOG68 on July 22, 2014, 07:44:12 pm
with all due respect, it seems to me that your concern over the rancor and hostility here (of late) is misplaced; there is a lot more unanimity here when it comes to practical matters than when it comes to discussion topics.

The name-calling I saw in discussions involving the elections didn't speak of unanimity.  I saw the beginnings of the same internecine altercations the Party experienced in the lead-up to the last two presidential elections.  Lately the GOP does as much to effect its defeat as does the opposition.

We have differences, but we also all have principles. 
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: Oceander on July 22, 2014, 08:13:24 pm
The name-calling I saw in discussions involving the elections didn't speak of unanimity.  I saw the beginnings of the same internecine altercations the Party experienced in the lead-up to the last two presidential elections.  Lately the GOP does as much to effect its defeat as does the opposition.

We have differences, but we also all have principles. 

I never said there was unanimity; please don't put words in my mouth.  There is more disagreement here than mere name-calling; nonetheless, when it comes to practical things such as how people in fact cast their votes there is more agreement than not.
Title: Re: Why Are Nearly Half the Voters Still Slobbering Over Obama? by Bernard Goldberg
Post by: MACVSOG68 on July 23, 2014, 12:15:10 am
I never said there was unanimity; please don't put words in my mouth.  There is more disagreement here than mere name-calling; nonetheless, when it comes to practical things such as how people in fact cast their votes there is more agreement than not.

Sorry Ocean.  You talked about unanimity.  And I simply drew some analogies to earlier elections and what we're seeing here and elsewhere in conservative circles.  Casting votes is obviously what the discussion is about.  But I think I've offended enough folks for one day.   :beer: