Jim Acosta
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19s20 seconds ago
CNN: Former Trump campaign chairman Manafort guilty of 8 counts - guilty of 5 tax fraud charges, 1 charge of hiding foreign bank accounts, and 2 counts of bank fraud.
“I think the whole Manafort trial is very sad, when you look at what’s going on there. I think it’s a very sad day for our country,†Trump said Friday. He went on to insist that Manafort only briefly worked for him, but said that was long enough to know that Manafort is a top-notch guy. “He worked for me for a very short period of time. But you know what? He happens to be a very good person. And I think it’s very sad what they’ve done to Paul Manafort.â€
This may make it harder for Trump to find a Campaign Manager for 2020.
Where is all this Russian collusion Stupid Bobby was supposed to be ferreting out? These convictions are a laundry list of bush league bullshit.
What did this have to do with WhiteWater, @Frank Cannon?
Its true Starr expanded the scope of his investigation, but with Tripp's unsolicited delivering of solid evidence of wrongdoing on Clinton's part made it impossible for him to not do so.
Quite a bit different from Mueller's tactics here.
What did this have to do with WhiteWater, @Frank Cannon?
Did the President have anything to do with this shit that Manafart did a decade ago? Of course not, but that isn't going to stop the simple mind of the Trump hater to try and compare a cum soaked dress to some tax and loan cheating.
My Point @skeeter was that once these Genies (Special Prosecutors) are out the bottle, they tend to run a course of their own. Sad really.
That's kind of the idea behind it. Go after anyone and everyone that has had anything to do with Trump and teach the lesson.... that being "don't let this happen to you" to anyone else considering working for Trump.
Mad Max said that. She spelled it out. She said to attack everyone, him, his family, his staff, his neighbors, his doctors, his lawyers, anyone he has ever met, legally, physically, and verbally. That's exactly what they are doing. The Judge even indirectly pointed that out during the trial.
Even Dershowitz is feeling the heat and he is not even a Trump supporter. His 'crime' is that he doesn't hate him.
Their fanatic fascism is driven by fear. Washington D.C. is scared to death of Trump.
Yep. And just think.... if or when they regain power (and they will eventually).... they will make us ALL pay for not disliking Trump enough! They're out of the Fascist Closet and have nothing to lose by letting it all (ugly sight to behold) hang out.
If the IRS missed or ignored these crimes all these years, they couldn't have been terribly important.
The Judge should sentence Manafort to time served--with an apology for the solitary confinement.... and a recommendation for an exorcism before the next trial.
Yep. And just think.... if or when they regain power (and they will eventually).... they will make us ALL pay for not disliking Trump enough! They're out of the Fascist Closet and have nothing to lose by letting it all (ugly sight to behold) hang out.
Oh yes. The cat is out of the bag now. They know they are untouchable. The Hillary case taught them that they can do anything they want to do with impunity, no matter how blatant, obvious, and absurd it is and simply walk away.
Since they know now that no one is ever going to prosecute a Democrats, if they ever regain power they will go full authoritarian and full socialist. There is no need to even pretend that they care about the constitution or the law. The gloves will be off. Gun confiscation, open borders, abolish ICE, they will simply do it without regard to Congress or anyone or anything. They will simply enact it, and screw everything else.
No more Mr. NiceGuy.
Elizabeth Landers
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16m16 minutes ago
TRUMP to reporters on the tarmac in WV: “Paul Manafort is a good man... it doesn’t involve me but it’s a very sad thing... it had nothing to do with Russian collusion.â€
Trump should pardon him. Stick it in muellers face.
Removed the 'O'riginal @The Ghost
I am not getting any alarm...is anyone else?
I removed two more pics of the blue dress just in case that caused it
I am not getting any alarm...is anyone else?
Trump was scheduled to be on the Oscar winning show Fox & Friends Thursday, wonder if he will cancel?
You know, the more I think about all this garbage, the less I think it is directly due to Trump (Only the BEST people), and more because Hillary did not win in order to cover up and bury all the shit she and Obama had been doing with impunity.
That ANYONE would let the public think there was going to be a swamp-draining, even if it was all bullshit - made the risk of exposure to all the corrupt crap the Clintons and Obama and the Democrats and the Republican Party leadership were engaged in - out in the sunshine. And the "Deep State" was not going to risk it.
So - like good Marxists do - Projection of what they themselves had been doing upon Trump. Had it been Cruz - the same garbage would have been attempted. However, Trump's habit of surrounding himself with scum balls and walking the line of legality himself made easy-pickings for a crew appointed to project onto Trump what they themselves had been doing, and to taint, smear and destroy an elected president, if nothing more than to show that they have the power now to do it.
The more I muse on this, the more I am convinced we have already truly lost the Republic in a velvet coup. Few to none of us have woken up to that reality yet, but we're beginning to see the signs of the fact that it was accomplished right under our noses.
Nothing good will come from here on out.
And no, Trump is not going to be able to save himself much less the country as time goes on. Unless he bows down and becomes a Champion for the Left once the Republicans lose the House.
That's why Trump had to lay bare the Clinton foundation and all its tentacles within the DOJ and FBI from the start. Had he done that they'd be stuck scrambling trying to stay out of prison without time and the resources to be on an effective offensive.
It is also why someone with so much obvious baggage shouldn't have been elected for the job in the first place. It was a self defeating choice.
I still contend Trump was Hildabeast's stalking horse that refused to go down in the 10th Round and let Hillary get the crown.
I think we were all being played and Trump's egotistic narcissism got in the way.
The failsafes had to then be implemented to ensure that what they had been doing for years if not decades could never hurt them - because all of Washington DC was running on it, enabling it or looking the other way to permit it.
Says the High Priest of the idiocracy wing of political strategic thinking. :laugh:
You're just Trump's female dog in word and deed. At least I have a nice title of ridicule you have bestowed.:silly:
You're just Trump's female dog in word and deed. At least I have a nice title of ridicule you have bestowed.
Where is all this Russian collusion Stupid Bobby was supposed to be ferreting out? These convictions are a laundry list of bush league bullshit.guilty of 5 tax fraud charges (fake filings) , 1 charge of hiding foreign bank accounts, and 2 counts of bank fraud.
Ain't life grand.
Man, oh, Manafort, things could get real ugly.
Yep, what's the bet that Mr. Manfort is getting a bright light on his person about now......... and General Flynn.
... and General Flynn.
Mueller asked for his sentencing hearing be pushed back until September 17th.
Crap. I just read (found out) that Cohen flipped, and implicated Trump on bimbo payouts.....
Not the Donalds day.
Yep, what's the bet that Mr. Manfort is getting a bright light on his person about now......
Wait... They have tanning booths in solitary?
I now understand why Jesus called the Pharisees vipers.
Shhhhh! I think I hear your master whistling for you... he needs you to do that spin trick you do so well.
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Guess again @RoosGirl
Says the High Priest of the idiocracy wing of political strategic thinking. :laugh:
Trump said there was a phone call between Bill and him just before he announced his run.
My guess from the beginning is Bill Clinton talked him into it. Clinton figured that Trump would turn the GOP primary into a circus damaging all the candidates and he was right. What he underestimated was just how much Hillary was disliked even by his own party.
What do you think they talk about @Right_in_Virginia, grand kids?
Trump said there was a phone call between Bill and him just before he announced his run.
My guess from the beginning is Bill Clinton talked him into it. Clinton figured that Trump would turn the GOP primary into a circus damaging all the candidates and he was right. What he underestimated was just how much Hillary was disliked even by his own party.
What do you think they talk about @Right_in_Virginia, grand kids?
That's why Trump had to lay bare the Clinton foundation and all its tentacles within the DOJ and FBI from the start. Had he done that they'd be stuck scrambling trying to stay out of prison without time and the resources to be on an effective offensive.
It is also why someone with so much obvious baggage shouldn't have been elected for the job in the first place. It was a self defeating choice.
@DB
I agree entirely that we could have made a much better choice but we didn't and Trump is now President of the United States. What do you suggest we do?
@DB
I agree entirely that we could have made a much better choice but we didn't and Trump is now President of the United States. What do you suggest we do?
@DB
I agree entirely that we could have made a much better choice but we didn't and Trump is now President of the United States. What do you suggest we do?
Elect more honest politicians? (can't hear over the roar of laughter at that one)
No, seriously. We're faced with the choice between globalist "moral" men like Romney the RINO.... or immoral folks like Trump. Which type would do less damage to our nation in the long run? That's the question we all must ask and answer come election day.
@DB
I agree entirely that we could have made a much better choice but we didn't and Trump is now President of the United States. What do you suggest we do?
@DB
I agree entirely that we could have made a much better choice but we didn't and Trump is now President of the United States. What do you suggest we do?
***hair on fire
I want to hear the answer to that one, @Bigun. And, I'm betting you don't get even one applicable, practical, useful answer.
I want to hear the answer to that one, @Bigun. And, I'm betting you don't get even one applicable, practical, useful answer.
@Bigun @Sanguine
It is pretty simple really. First, have the courage to vote for the best candidate that shares your principles. And don't get weak kneed voting in fear for "the one who can win". When you always give Republicans your vote they can offer anyone they please because they're "the lesser evil" and they know you'll vote for them anyway. You then always end up with the lesser evil, maybe. Never the better candidate.
Nature has a simple but hard rule. You reward something you get more of it. You punish something you get less of it.
Two points there. When you reward Republicans for crappy candidates you get more of them. Until people start to have the courage to stop rewarding bad behavior in fear of the worse behavior you will never rid yourself of it.
When you reward a lying cheating person winning the Presidency, you get more lying and cheating. How he got there matters. To overlook that and now say "he's doing good things" as some sort of justification is the ends justifies the means thinking and corrupts everything it touches. Then it becomes where do you draw the line. A "little" lying and cheating for a good cause always grows to a little more... Like socialism... It's poison. Obviously for many the line is he's our thug trashing our enemies so that's a-okay.
And as far as the "good things" he's doing, they pale compared to the deficit spending and total corruption of the DOJ and FBI he supposedly heads. He sold you lies during the election and now that he can't deliver them - big shock - you excuse him and say he's not king, etc...
Call it what it is.
That will make a difference in time.
DB, good answer, thank you. Not trying to speak for @Bigun here, but the part that frustrates me about this type of discussion is that, all you say is true, and given time and the participation of a significant number of other people, some of what we want could come about. But, in the here and now, we have Trump, and the only vote and actions we can be certain of is our own. Trump is what we have to work with, like it or not.
DB your pearl clutching is admirable.
DB, good answer, thank you. Not trying to speak for @Bigun here, but the part that frustrates me about this type of discussion is that, all you say is true, and given time and the participation of a significant number of other people, some of what we want could come about. But, in the here and now, we have Trump, and the only vote and actions we can be certain of is our own. Trump is what we have to work with, like it or not.
The die is set with Trump. That particular wreck has already happened. It will just take some time to fully unfold. How can the GOP credibly push family values again after this President? Or any sort of personal integrity or decorum? The issues with Trump are fundamental to his character. The only thing that can be done, or at least attempted, is contain the damage. The only way to do that is not corrupt yourself and others to excuse what it is. Then hopefully there's some credibility left, some fundamental principles, to support a decent candidate in the future. The last opportunity was squandered and can't be recovered.
My real fear with Trump all along is he would destroy what was left of the conservatives in the GOP and therefore the GOP itself. At least the GOP for a conservative. By the time Trump is done "conservative" is going to be a dirty word even on the right because it has been so debased.
DB, good answer, thank you. Not trying to speak for @Bigun here, but the part that frustrates me about this type of discussion is that, all you say is true, and given time and the participation of a significant number of other people, some of what we want could come about. But, in the here and now, we have Trump, and the only vote and actions we can be certain of is our own. Trump is what we have to work with, like it or not.
There is no party, nor candidate in 2020 at this point, who represents me in the least.
@musiclady
Agree with that entirely. What do you suggest we do?
@musiclady
Agree with that entirely. What do you suggest we do?
Great posts all @musiclady
There is hope for a third party in America, IMHO. Discounting it's eventual demise at the hands of the GOP the Tea Party was a truly 'Grassroots' idea that made a significant impact for 2 election cycles. It can be done again.
And in the time it takes to get that done, this once great republic becomes just another socialist hell hole on the face of the earth.
You go to war with the weapons you have.
The left is at war.
And in the time it takes to get that done, this once great republic becomes just another socialist hell hole on the face of the earth.
...I find DB's reply completely non responsive to the question I asked. I have never yet voted for Trump and refuse to reward anyone who does not do in office what they promised me they would while campaigning yet Donald Trump still IS the president. What do you suggest I do DB?
You go to war with the weapons you have.
I choose my own weapons, not the fragile, busted, rusted and corrupt garbage handed to me by the very people who will stab you in the back while you sleep in their camp.
Suicide is not waging war. It's deciding that death is preferable to slavery.
Sure, @Bigun there's that inherent risk in my approach, Time. The ONLY thing we disagree on is the viability of the GOP to sustain this marketing ploy of Elect us, we'll get something done and, ol yea, we're not demonrats.
I will vote for Ted in Nov. but no one else, all the other Republicans on the ballot (in my area) are clueless and they all will win anyway, just as I knew Trump would in the 2016 general.
A better analogy might be you can either bail water or go down with the ship.
A better analogy might be you can either bail water or go down with the ship.
A better analogy might be you can either bail water or go down with the ship.
A better analogy might be you can either bail water or go down with the ship.
Or get off the ship when you learn that the moron crew is opening up portholes and loading hatches to let the ocean rush on in, long before it sinks and wave to it from your lifeboat.
INVAR you are a little dinghy.
Or get off the ship when you learn that the moron crew is opening up portholes and loading hatches to let the ocean rush on in, long before it sinks and wave to it from your lifeboat.
You go to war with the weapons you have.
The left is at war.
No amount of bailing will save Trump's administration. The better plan is not go down with it.
No amount of bailing will save Trump's administration. The better plan is not go down with it.
All of this was looked at years ago and no charge was filed.
And in the time it takes to get that done, this once great republic becomes just another socialist hell hole on the face of the earth.
What ship is there to get onto other than the U.S. ship?
Great posts all @musiclady
There is hope for a third party in America, IMHO. Discounting it's eventual demise at the hands of the GOP the Tea Party was a truly 'Grassroots' idea that made a significant impact for 2 election cycles. It can be done again.
You go to war with the weapons you have.
The left is at war.
The last 2016 ship sailed. Either we learn from those mistakes and choose a different ship in the future or we don't.
People keep demanding that we "do something" for something that is already done. It can't be undone. Now you have to live with it and try to do better next time - to learn from the mistakes. To keep supporting the indefensible hoping for "some good things" you are only digging the hole deeper for the next opportunity when it comes.
If it were only the Trump administration ship going down, that wouldn't be much of an issue. It's a bit bigger than that.
What does that even mean? Honestly, I can’t make heads or tails of any logic that would lead one to make that statement.
LOL. Post after post from shut ins and malcontents pining for the strong leadership of Evan McMuffin. Hilarious!
Some of you folks aught to step out of your Section 8 hovels and look around at the real world. No one gives a shit about this DC drama with a bunch of no name hacks getting busted for tax evasion. They do care that the economy is on fire, they have better jobs and money to spend. Trump is doing that. No effing wonder barely any new people show up here. Everyone is discussing shit that is so irrelevant to daily life in America that it may as well be a forum in a foreign language like Portuguese.
You Trumpers are having a bad couple of days, I get that, still it's no reason to call us Briefers a bunch of no talent hacks, @Frank Cannon where are your manners?
PS: Evan was a cheap shot.
There ya go... "It won't happen to me"... "Can't happen here"... The government credit card is endless... The faith in the US dollar is endless... Government corruption only affects other people... How comforting...
LOL. Post after post from shut ins and malcontents pining for the strong leadership of Evan McMuffin. Hilarious!
@DB @Frank Cannon
There is a lot of truth in what Frank said whether we like it or not.
[...] the EGOP that destroyed the Tea Party.
88devil
There ya go... "It won't happen to me"... "Can't happen here"... The government credit card is endless... The faith in the US dollar is endless... Government corruption only affects other people... How comforting...
What ship is there to get onto other than the U.S. ship?
Which "truth" is that?
That I'm section 8 housing?
That ignoring the spending along with the rest of America is just fine?
That ignoring the corruption in government with the rest of American is just fine?
Those truths?
No one gives a shit about this DC drama with a bunch of no name hacks getting busted for tax evasion. They do care that the economy is on fire, they have better jobs and money to spend. Trump is doing that.
You and the Peak Oil Druids can go commiserate in the corner about the end of the world. The rest of the country is going to get up and keep going like we always do and enjoy the prosperity when it happens.
What does it mean???
Quit doing the same damn thing expecting a different result. Stop voting for the lesser evil while expecting something other than evil.
I don't really care if our leaders are driving us off the cliff at 85 mph or 35 mph, we're still going over the cliff. We don't have infinite credit and do overs. Our days are numbered if we don't make some real changes. Getting there a little slower isn't the solution to anything, the cliff is in view. It is just asking the bear to eat the other guy first... Neither Trump nor the GOP is doing anything to even actually slow things down. Deficit spending is increasing. Corruption in government is increasing.
There ya go... "It won't happen to me"... "Can't happen here"... The government credit card is endless... The faith in the US dollar is endless... Government corruption only affects other people... How comforting...
That sometimes happens despite who is in The Oval and not because of it. There’s no better example of that than the 90s.
You and the Peak Oil Druids can go commiserate in the corner about the end of the world. The rest of the country is going to get up and keep going like we always do and enjoy the prosperity when it happens.
Full of substance as usual... Light but filling eh?
I made a lot of coin in the 90's. Making a lot a coin again. It's rainin' dolla dolla dolla mo fo....
So did I, but I don’t have Clinton to thank for it.
Ross Perot.
Actually, Frank's post was quite substantive ..... and I appreciate it.
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So just come out and own it then. Trillion dollar deficit spending via printing and borrowing money is not a serious problem. Government corruption isn't a serious problem. That your team knows most of the American people don't pay much attention to it and therefore more of the same is the way to go. Lower taxes, up the spending and enjoy the party.
Because that's the "substance" of Frank's post.
At least that clearly defines the lines between us.
Manafort juror reveals lone holdout prevented Mueller team from convicting on all counts
Very interesting. Wonder if this would have any bearing on Mueller's forward plans.
Manafort juror: One 'holdout' prevented jury from convicting Manafort on all 18 counts
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403197-manafort-juror-one-holdout-prevented-ruling-on-all-18-counts (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/403197-manafort-juror-one-holdout-prevented-ruling-on-all-18-counts)
Was the hold out verdict WHITE?
You mean was the juror white? Like the lady who was speaking out?