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Title: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2014, 08:07:47 pm
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 By Cheryl K. Chumley

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The Washington Times

Wednesday, May 14, 2014

A group of self-described revolutionary-style patriots with a million mobilized militia members are heading to downtown Washington, D.C., this week to bring a simple message to political leadership, from President Obama to House Speaker John Boehner: Get out.

They're called the Operation American Spring — and they're vowing to oust the likes of Mr. Obama, Mr. Boehner, Attorney General Eric Holder, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Sen. Mitch McConnell, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Joseph R. Biden, Raw Story reported.

"We are calling for [their] removal ... as a start toward constitutional restoration," said retired Army Col. Harry Riley, the leader of the group, Raw Story reported. "They have all abandoned the U.S. Constitution, are unworthy to be retained in a position that calls for servant status."

The aim of the group, too, is to influence those politicos who aren't targeted for ouster to "sponsor and pass very constitutionally crafted state legislation to dissolve the size, powers, scope and spending of the U.S. government by two-thirds," the media outlet reported.

The group expects between 10 million and 30 million similarly thinking Americans to meet them in the capital on Friday for a rally that's being billed as a sort of "Arab Spring" for Americans.

Meanwhile, the group is holding another event on the same day in Bunerkville, Nev., near cattle rancher Cliven Bundy's property and in support of his stand-off with the Bureau of Land Management over grazing fees.

The Friday event was promoted by Tea Party Nation.

Mr. Riley said he hopes the event will go forward peaceably, but that so far, peaceful protests haven't brought citizens much luck. He also said that more than 1 million militia members have already mobilized for the event — and that projections of 10 million to attend aren't pie in the sky.

"For more than five years, 'we the people' have been writing, calling, faxing Congress, the media, screaming in town halls, marching, rallying, demonstrating, petitioning, all to no avail," he said, Raw Story reported. "Every branch of government looks at 'we the people' whom they have taken an oath to serve, as 'pests,' interfering with their political agenda, cramping their self-serving, greedy agendas. We have no faith in the ballot box any longer, as many believe this sacred secret box has been compromised.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: musiclady on May 14, 2014, 08:28:54 pm
Oh, I don't like this...........    **nononono*
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2014, 08:30:18 pm
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The group expects between 10 million and 30 million similarly thinking Americans to meet them in the capital on Friday
I bet they won't see 100,000. Just not going to happen.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: jmyrlefuller on May 14, 2014, 08:45:25 pm
I bet they won't see 100,000. Just not going to happen.
Best we can hope for is a few hundred. That way, nobody notices.

Look. We'd all love to get rid of these bums, but you can't do it with silly and exaggerated stunts like this. This is bound to backfire.

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The Friday event was promoted by Tea Party Nation.
Ah, yes, TPN, the Tea Party Profiteer Judson Phillips. Who, by the way, just endorsed Mitch McConnell, the most hated politician in Kentucky, for re-election.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: Oceander on May 14, 2014, 09:46:10 pm
that'll go over well, lead-balloon well.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: sinkspur on May 14, 2014, 09:57:39 pm
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Mr. Riley said he hopes the event will go forward peaceably, but that so far, peaceful protests haven't brought citizens much luck. He also said that more than 1 million militia members have already mobilized for the event — and that projections of 10 million to attend aren't pie in the sky.

Yes they are, pal.  You won't get a thousand people to this nonsense.

But I'm betting the bars will welcome all of you after you get your jollies, wasting your time.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: musiclady on May 14, 2014, 10:46:46 pm
Yes they are, pal.  You won't get a thousand people to this nonsense.

But I'm betting the bars will welcome all of you after you get your jollies, wasting your time.

I hope they don't get even close to a thousand.

The thing that worries me about this stunt is that it will be trumpeted as who the Tea Party really is.

And it's not even close.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: mountaineer on May 15, 2014, 12:35:39 pm
The thing that worries me about this stunt is that it will be trumpeted as who the Tea Party really is.

And it's not even close.
Exactly. The media (and DNC) have controlled the narrative of what the tea party is. Those of us who actually have attended TP meetings or rallies know it's not at all anything like this Judson Phillips business or extremist "revolutionary-style" torchlight parades.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: musiclady on May 15, 2014, 01:33:12 pm
Exactly. The media (and DNC) have controlled the narrative of what the tea party is. Those of us who actually have attended TP meetings or rallies know it's not at all anything like this Judson Phillips business or extremist "revolutionary-style" torchlight parades.

Right.  My avatar is of the 9/12 March on the Capitol.  Hundreds of thousands of people, JUST like you and me, mountaineer.

It was like a July 4th family picnic, and bore no resemblance to the ridiculous caricature of the left.

When the media control the narrative, truth is not to be found.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: alicewonders on May 15, 2014, 02:13:13 pm
Right.  My avatar is of the 9/12 March on the Capitol.  Hundreds of thousands of people, JUST like you and me, mountaineer.

It was like a July 4th family picnic, and bore no resemblance to the ridiculous caricature of the left.

When the media control the narrative, truth is not to be found.

My husband and I were there on 9/12 too musiclady - and it was one of the best days of my life!   There was an electricity that I have never felt before or since - you could FEEL it - such a huge group of people all feeling the same thing!  And it was the comradery, meeting and talking with people from all over - the nicest people in the whole world!  I will never forget it!

I know they were looking out the windows of the Capitol building - and they were scared to death by what they saw.  They knew they had to stop this.  And they have used all of their resources to do just that.  Now, they have these kooks say these things - 20 to 30 million expected to show up?  Of course - they will be a laughing stock when it turns out just to be a rag-tag crowd.  This is completely choreographed for the purpose of down-playing the tea party.

Lately, I've felt in the pit of my gut.....things are speeding downhill now....we're about to hit bottom.......the election is going to go badly......there will be no recovery after that.  Prepare to shelter in with your family - we're headed for some REAL bad times.

Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: katzenjammer on May 15, 2014, 02:19:34 pm

Lately, I've felt in the pit of my gut.....things are speeding downhill now....we're about to hit bottom.......the election is going to go badly......there will be no recovery after that.  Prepare to shelter in with your family - we're headed for some REAL bad times.

I've believed this to be true for some time, Alice.  But I still remain unclear as to the timing, they've proven that they can keep this whole mess up in the air for quite some time, I just really don't know how far it will go before they let it come crashing down.  It could turn out to be a lot longer than one would expect, or not.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: musiclady on May 15, 2014, 02:21:25 pm
My husband and I were there on 9/12 too musiclady - and it was one of the best days of my life!   There was an electricity that I have never felt before or since - you could FEEL it - such a huge group of people all feeling the same thing!  And it was the comradery, meeting and talking with people from all over - the nicest people in the whole world!  I will never forget it!

I know they were looking out the windows of the Capitol building - and they were scared to death by what they saw.  They knew they had to stop this.  And they have used all of their resources to do just that.  Now, they have these kooks say these things - 20 to 30 million expected to show up?  Of course - they will be a laughing stock when it turns out just to be a rag-tag crowd.  This is completely choreographed for the purpose of down-playing the tea party.

Lately, I've felt in the pit of my gut.....things are speeding downhill now....we're about to hit bottom.......the election is going to go badly......there will be no recovery after that.  Prepare to shelter in with your family - we're headed for some REAL bad times.

My husband and I both felt the same way about the 9/12 gathering, and yes, it was electric!

Your assessment of what was seen by those inside the Capitol, and the fear and anger we created in our numbers and the power that represented, is spot on.  They knew we had to be silenced, and the only way to do that was to lie, and lie, and lie; to smear our character and our purpose, and to use their Alinskyite ridicule and derision of who we are and what we believe.

Well, it worked, didn't it?

I'm not so sure the end is going to be a soon as November, but there is no doubt in my mind that we are careening to the bottom of the canyon, and there will be soon nothing left of this country.

And I HATE this pessimism in my soul.  I've never felt it before.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: ABX on May 15, 2014, 02:32:52 pm
This smells very very wrong. Appeals to wanna be cowboy freeper types who don't think thing through and have dreams of playing apocalyptic world.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: alicewonders on May 15, 2014, 02:39:23 pm
My husband and I both felt the same way about the 9/12 gathering, and yes, it was electric!

Your assessment of what was seen by those inside the Capitol, and the fear and anger we created in our numbers and the power that represented, is spot on.  They knew we had to be silenced, and the only way to do that was to lie, and lie, and lie; to smear our character and our purpose, and to use their Alinskyite ridicule and derision of who we are and what we believe.

Well, it worked, didn't it?

I'm not so sure the end is going to be a soon as November, but there is no doubt in my mind that we are careening to the bottom of the canyon, and there will be soon nothing left of this country.

And I HATE this pessimism in my soul.  I've never felt it before.

Me too.  I've always had hope for a brighter tomorrow, in fact - I've been called a "dreamer" by some people because of my optimism in the future.  I've realized lately that the feeling of hope is pretty much gone in me.  I hope I'm wrong, I pray I'm wrong - but I've never felt this way before.  The cycle must complete itself now.

Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: katzenjammer on May 15, 2014, 02:42:34 pm
Me too.  I've always had hope for a brighter tomorrow, in fact - I've been called a "dreamer" by some people because of my optimism in the future.  I've realized lately that the feeling of hope is pretty much gone in me.  I hope I'm wrong, I pray I'm wrong - but I've never felt this way before.  The cycle must complete itself now.

Interesting.  Yet another person that I meet that was/is like me.  I was always called (and considered myself to be) an eternal optimist; I rarely feel much like that anymore.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: alicewonders on May 15, 2014, 02:44:29 pm
This smells very very wrong. Appeals to wanna be cowboy freeper types who don't think thing through and have dreams of playing apocalyptic world.

I think that these 'things' are designed to push those types into finally doing something that will trigger THE EVENT.   It doesn't feel right and I have no doubt that this whole thing is planned for that reason.  Our movement has been infiltrated - this is not us. 

Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: DCPatriot on May 15, 2014, 02:49:38 pm
Me too.  I've always had hope for a brighter tomorrow, in fact - I've been called a "dreamer" by some people because of my optimism in the future.  I've realized lately that the feeling of hope is pretty much gone in me.  I hope I'm wrong, I pray I'm wrong - but I've never felt this way before.  The cycle must complete itself now.

You've described me, Alice.....up and till the results of the 2012 election were announced.

Now....at 67 years old, I have a better understanding of how radical suicide bombers are born.

Felt such joy and pride that day in Washington, on 9/12/09.  Also, on 8/28/10 with Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin at the Lincoln Memorial.

Reading this thread has given me a grapefruit-sized lump in my throat.   
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: musiclady on May 15, 2014, 02:58:30 pm
Me too.  I've always had hope for a brighter tomorrow, in fact - I've been called a "dreamer" by some people because of my optimism in the future.  I've realized lately that the feeling of hope is pretty much gone in me.  I hope I'm wrong, I pray I'm wrong - but I've never felt this way before.  The cycle must complete itself now.

Yes.

YES!!
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: alicewonders on May 15, 2014, 03:05:57 pm
You've described me, Alice.....up and till the results of the 2012 election were announced.

Now....at 67 years old, I have a better understanding of how radical suicide bombers are born.

Felt such joy and pride that day in Washington, on 9/12/09.  Also, on 8/28/10 with Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin at the Lincoln Memorial.

Reading this thread has given me a grapefruit-sized lump in my throat.   

Reading it has brought tears to my eyes.  I think we are all feeling it.  Such high hopes, then dashed to the rocks below.  But I have to believe that it is all part of a greater design - we're about to witness history in an epic proportion.   :beer:   :patriot:

Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: Bigun on May 15, 2014, 03:06:49 pm
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Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: alicewonders on May 15, 2014, 03:23:00 pm
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Thanks Bigun.  Of course you are right.  We WON'T give up the fight - I won't.  I'm in it until the end.  It's in my blood - my people never, never NEVER give up - we're fightin' and feudin' people! 

I guess it's the rain, kind of a gloomy day here.  The situation with my parents, they are getting worse - they're completely helpless and they only have me to be their advocate.  I worry about what will happen to them if things go bad.  I just feel like we're at the point where it's going to take a miracle to change the course.

The good news is that I do believe in miracles. 

Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: Bigun on May 15, 2014, 03:30:11 pm
Thanks Bigun.  Of course you are right.  We WON'T give up the fight - I won't.  I'm in it until the end.  It's in my blood - my people never, never NEVER give up - we're fightin' and feudin' people! 

I guess it's the rain, kind of a gloomy day here.  The situation with my parents, they are getting worse - they're completely helpless and they only have me to be their advocate.  I worry about what will happen to them if things go bad.  I just feel like we're at the point where it's going to take a miracle to change the course.

The good news is that I do believe in miracles.

Alice I think I love you! ;>)

I grew up in the South  with a grandfather who was already well into his 50s when I was born telling me that I might loose a thousand fights in my life but I wasn't beat until I quit!

He was right ant that is so ingrained in me that anything else just doesn't compute!

As Christians we are told to do for ourselves everything that we can and pray!

That is the course I will follow until God takes me home!


Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: DCPatriot on May 15, 2014, 03:32:33 pm
Alice I think I love you! ;>)

I grew up in the South  with a grandfather who was already well into his 50s when I was born telling me that I might loose a thousand fights in my life but I wasn't beat until I quit!

He was right ant that is so ingrained in me that anything else just doesn't compute!

As Christians we are told to do for ourselves everything that we can and pray!

That is the course I will follow until God takes me home!

Bigun, I think I love you too!   ;^)



....of course not there's anything wrong with that!  LOL!
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: alicewonders on May 15, 2014, 03:44:50 pm
Alice I think I love you! ;>)

I grew up in the South  with a grandfather who was already well into his 50s when I was born telling me that I might loose a thousand fights in my life but I wasn't beat until I quit!

He was right ant that is so ingrained in me that anything else just doesn't compute!

As Christians we are told to do for ourselves everything that we can and pray!

That is the course I will follow until God takes me home!

 :amen:   034

Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: Bigun on May 15, 2014, 03:45:12 pm
Bigun, I think I love you too!   ;^)



....of course not there's anything wrong with that!  LOL!

 :beer:
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: alicewonders on May 15, 2014, 03:47:37 pm
Bigun, I think I love you too!   ;^)



....of course not there's anything wrong with that!  LOL!

:grouphug:

Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: musiclady on May 15, 2014, 04:21:42 pm
Thanks Bigun.  Of course you are right.  We WON'T give up the fight - I won't.  I'm in it until the end.  It's in my blood - my people never, never NEVER give up - we're fightin' and feudin' people! 

I guess it's the rain, kind of a gloomy day here.  The situation with my parents, they are getting worse - they're completely helpless and they only have me to be their advocate.  I worry about what will happen to them if things go bad.  I just feel like we're at the point where it's going to take a miracle to change the course.

The good news is that I do believe in miracles.

I'm sorry to hear about your parents, alice.

You will be in my prayers.
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: musiclady on May 15, 2014, 04:24:40 pm
Alice I think I love you! ;>)

I grew up in the South  with a grandfather who was already well into his 50s when I was born telling me that I might loose a thousand fights in my life but I wasn't beat until I quit!

He was right ant that is so ingrained in me that anything else just doesn't compute!

As Christians we are told to do for ourselves everything that we can and pray!

That is the course I will follow until God takes me home!

As Christians, we know "the rest of the story!"  The battle belongs to the LORD!

And we are all soldiers in this fight.

(Even us Yankees aren't wimps.   ^-^ )

Onward!
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: Bigun on May 15, 2014, 04:26:58 pm
As Christians, we know "the rest of the story!"  The battle belongs to the LORD!

And we are all soldiers in this fight.

(Even us Yankees aren't wimps.   ^-^ )

Onward!

 :amen: :patriot:
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: alicewonders on May 15, 2014, 04:28:09 pm
I'm sorry to hear about your parents, alice.

You will be in my prayers.

Thank you musiclady - that means a lot!  Some days are pretty hard, especially when they don't know who I am.  My dad is getting very frustrated with his limitations and is taking it out on me - tells people that I am "incarcerating" him because I won't let him drive, I make him eat regular healthy meals and make him take his medicine (which he hates).  He says he is going to call the State Police and a judge about it and that they will "rescue" him!  It gets old. 

Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: musiclady on May 15, 2014, 04:40:51 pm
Thank you musiclady - that means a lot!  Some days are pretty hard, especially when they don't know who I am.  My dad is getting very frustrated with his limitations and is taking it out on me - tells people that I am "incarcerating" him because I won't let him drive, I make him eat regular healthy meals and make him take his medicine (which he hates).  He says he is going to call the State Police and a judge about it and that they will "rescue" him!  It gets old.

My choir accompanist is going through the same thing with her Mom, and she has similar stories.

My Mom died young, and my Dad was a bit cranky in his 80's, but didn't have dementia, so I didn't have to deal with the anguish you are going through. 

I'll pray that God gives you the strength and patience you need to get through these challenging days.  HE is faithful!
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: GourmetDan on May 15, 2014, 05:23:00 pm
Exactly. The media (and DNC) have controlled the narrative of what the tea party is.

The media (and DNC) control the narrative on what *everything* 'is'...


Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: Fishrrman on May 16, 2014, 03:05:59 am
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This is posted in re Bigun's pic up in reply #19 above.

I'd like to present an excerpt from a book by William D. Middleton entitled "The Time Of The Trolley" (of all things!). It has to do with the streetcar business in corrupt Chicago some years' back:
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[Charles] Yerkes' devious financial methods created so bewildering a network of construction companies, operating companies, and holding companies that his street railway empire was known as the "Chicago traction tangle". Rival companies were ruthlessly dealt with, and Yerkes callously bought whatever politicians he needed to safeguard his interests. In the rough-and-tumble business and political world of turn-of-the-century Chicago, he probably had no alternative.

Yerkes finally met defeat in the late 1800's when he set out to safeguard his long-term interests by attempting to secure legislation extending his street railway franchises for 50 years. A compliant state legislature soon produced the Allen Law, which gave city councils the authority to extend the franchises; but by the time Chicago's so-called "boodle aldermen" met to vote Yerkes what he wanted, a thoroughly aroused public would have none of it. A mob carrying guns and nooses surrounded City Hall, the aldermen got the point, and the measure failed to pass. The following fall the state legislators who had voted for the Allen Law were booted out of office to a man and the law was promptly repealed. Despite the alleged expenditure of a million dollars in bribes, Yerkes had been soundly beaten.
(The Time Of The Trolley, c.1967, p.225-227)
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We all know about the politics of Chicago, as it has been ever-since-way-back-when.
Not all that much different than much of the politics going on in DC right now.

Earlier in this thread, I read a post by sinkspur:
[[ Yes they are, pal.  You won't get a thousand people to this nonsense.
But I'm betting the bars will welcome all of you after you get your jollies, wasting your time. ]]

I'm wondering if that "mob" at Chicago City Hall was "wasting their time"?
Their presence certainly influenced the behavior of the poltiicians inside.

If ever there was a real-life example of Bigun's poster, this was it.
Another was the "Battle of Athens" (Tennessee) confrontation, back in 1946.

Just what will it take to make the government of The United States "reform itself"?
To fundamentally reverse the direction in which it's headed, and return to a form of government that actually reflects the concepts the Founders laid out originally?

Just how do you expect to make this happen?
Will elections do it? (Aside, how have they been working out recently?)
Or might it require more?

What if several hundred thousand angry citizens surrounded the U.S. Capitol, in the same manner that the citizens surrounded Chicago City Hall back then?

What then?
Would the people inside get the message?
Title: Re: Operation American Spring to hit D.C. to oust Obama, Biden, Boehner, Holder
Post by: katzenjammer on May 16, 2014, 05:36:35 pm
I hear you Fish.  I don't know anything about this group at all, so can't weigh in.  But your point is well taken, there is a high probability that in this day and age, what you describe may be what it takes.