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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: flowers on July 15, 2014, 05:20:51 pm

Title: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: flowers on July 15, 2014, 05:20:51 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2692747/Could-California-split-six-Billionaire-s-plan-divide-Golden-State-gets-signatures-make-2016-ballot.html

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A multi-millionaire who believes California should be separated into six separate states says he has gathered enough signatures to place it on the ballot in two years.

Venture capitalist Tim Draper, 55, says the Golden State is too large to govern efficiently, and that people living there would be better served by a more localised government.

The technology investor has proposed splitting the state into six: San Diego and Orange County would become South California, Los Angeles and Santa Barbara would make up West California, the Sacramento area would be known as North California, and Bakersfield, Fresno and Stockton would make up Central California.
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: flowers on July 15, 2014, 05:25:40 pm
   I know this really has no chance of happening.  who would benefit from this?
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: alicewonders on July 15, 2014, 05:32:15 pm
   I know this really has no chance of happening.  who would benefit from this?

I agree it will never happen.  Obviously, there are a lot of people in the state that don't feel a connection coming from the state of California.  Business people have got to be feeling it.  I think we all would benefit from something like this.  California is too big to govern with a one-size-fits-all approach and that's why people are fleeing.  New York can't be too far behind. 
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: GourmetDan on July 15, 2014, 05:49:30 pm

California is too big to govern with a one-size-fits-all approach and that's why people are fleeing.  New York can't be too far behind.


It's not that they're too big to govern, it's that too much political power is concentrated at too high a level.

Lack of accountability always results in lack of responsiveness...

Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: Chieftain on July 15, 2014, 07:16:28 pm
   I know this really has no chance of happening.  who would benefit from this?

The way things are going right now at what used to be the border, I think it is much more likely that all of Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Texas will be seized and turned into a new Aztlan. 

The army that will do the seizing has been coming across the border for years.....

Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: Relic on July 15, 2014, 07:31:48 pm
The way things are going right now at what used to be the border, I think it is much more likely that all of Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Texas will be seized and turned into a new Aztlan. 

The army that will do the seizing has been coming across the border for years.....

U.S. Navy destroyer stops four Mexicans rowing towards California.
 
The Captain gets on the bullhorn and shouts,
 
"Ahoy, small craft. Where are you headed?"
 

One of the Mexicans puts down his oar, stands up, and shouts,
 
"Gringo, we are invading the United States of America to reclaim The territory taken by the USA during the 1800's."
 

The entire crew on the destroyer doubles over in laughter. When the
 Captain finally catches his breath, he gets back on the bullhorn and asks, "Just
 the four of you?"
 

The same Mexican stands up again and shouts, "No, we're the last
 four. The other 12 million are already there."
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: GourmetDan on July 15, 2014, 07:49:15 pm
The way things are going right now at what used to be the border, I think it is much more likely that all of Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Texas will be seized and turned into a new Aztlan. 

More likely that the North American Union and the Amero will appear first.

WikiLeaks Exposes North American Integration Plot (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/10646-wikileaks-exposes-north-american-integration-plot)

That's likely what all this 'immigration reform' is really about...

Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: DCPatriot on July 15, 2014, 08:26:42 pm
Just what we need.  Ten additional Senators and a couple of dozen Congressmen....of the Progressive bent.
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 15, 2014, 08:35:10 pm
Just what we need.  Ten additional Senators and a couple of dozen Congressmen....of the Progressive bent.
Actually, if the state is divided into six, a good chunk of the new states would probably be solid red states, newly liberated from the coastal cities.
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: DCPatriot on July 15, 2014, 08:37:50 pm
Actually, if the state is divided into six, a good chunk of the new states would probably be solid red states, newly liberated from the coastal cities.

Love your 'glass half full' approach, friend.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 15, 2014, 08:40:24 pm
I agree it will never happen.  Obviously, there are a lot of people in the state that don't feel a connection coming from the state of California.  Business people have got to be feeling it.  I think we all would benefit from something like this.  California is too big to govern with a one-size-fits-all approach and that's why people are fleeing.  New York can't be too far behind.
I wish New York were the next shoe to drop, but referendum is far more difficult up here. I mean, it exists, but usually the referendum questions are put up by the legislature, and the legislature is controlled by "One New Yorkers" who will stop at nothing to hold onto power.

There's been inklings of movement to split the state for decades, but nothing's ever gotten out of committee.
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: rangerrebew on July 15, 2014, 08:45:45 pm
   I know this really has no chance of happening.  who would benefit from this?

Democrats.  They six "states" would all be liberal so that would give the commiecrats that much more power in congress - if there is one in 2016.
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: raml on July 16, 2014, 12:36:22 am
Not true the state is not a real blue state most of it is red only the population centers of LA and SF are progressives so no it would not mean more dem senators and reps.
Title: Re: Could California be split into six? Billionaire's plan to divide the Golden State gets enough signatures to make it onto 2016 ballot
Post by: Atomic Cow on July 16, 2014, 12:43:55 am
At best it would be a 6-6 wash of Senators or worse a 2-4 gain for Democrats.