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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on July 20, 2021, 07:01:06 pm
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Klobuchar: My Bill Will Make Social Media Companies ‘Liable’ if They Don’t Take Down COVID ‘Crap’
Pam Key 20 Jul 2021
Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) said Tuesday on ABC’s “The View” that she is introducing a bill to make social media companies like Facebook and t “liable” if they do not take down coronavirus vaccine misinformation which she called “crap.”
Klobuchar said, “Our goal right now is to get everyone vaccinated in any way and message possible. Some people listen to Dolly Parton. Some people are going to listen to Barack Obama. We need to get the information out, and the misinformation is hurting us in such a big way.”
She continued, “There are babies that are getting sick. There are young children. I was reading about Mississippi on ventilators. So getting people vaccinated, I’ve literally thought creatively myself, maybe we need billboards everywhere about the percentage that are dying that are not vaccinated and the percentage which as you know is infinitesimal that are vaccinated. We are at a moment in time where we’ve got to be open to every new idea here, and one of the best ideas is to stop the misinformation. Sean Hannity gets a vaccine, that’s great, but let’s get it out to all his people. Hospital workers, anything we can do to incentivize that. Businesses, many of them are actually requiring people to get vaccines. Universities are doing it. I think bit by bit, that’s what we have to do.”
Klobuchar added, “At the same time, the misinformation on the internet, which is something I’m personally taking on, is outrageous. These are the biggest, richest companies in the world that control these platforms, and they’ve got to take this crap off. We are in a public health crisis. We still are. We’ve seen major improvements thanks to the vaccines, the ingenuity of people, the Biden administration getting this out, but this is holding us back. Two-thirds of the people that are not vaccinated believe something that they read on the internet. That’s all the facts I need. That’s from a Kaiser Foundation report. So I’m going to introduce a bill to limit the misinformation on vaccines by saying, you guys are liable if you don’t take it off your platforms.”
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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/07/20/klobuchar-my-bill-will-make-social-media-companies-liable-if-they-dont-take-down-covid-crap/
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The stupid is strong in that one.
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The First Amendment is so difficult.
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The First Amendment is so difficult.
Communist first amendment: You the freedom to print what the state says is the truth and only what the state says is the truth.
Klobuchar is just getting ahead of herself.
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Democrats are dangerous to the US.
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Mother Russia/China freedom is here,your freedom is what the socialist utopians say it is and nothing more. Having turned you backs on God and Country, how do you like your NeverTrumper utopia now ? Don't cower like cowards in the dark, hip, Hip HOORAY! celebrate! Desolation like the Bible promised is already showing its approach, and you did your part !
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"Amy" eats salads with a dirty hair comb, and orders aides to clean it up after she finishes throwing stuff at them.
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Introducing a bill is the easy part. Passing it is harder because it has to go through debate and it has to have so many votes to pass
A lot of times politicians introduced pills just to get noticed in the press. But this is clearly a violation of the First Amendment.
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With NeverTrumpers bitching and bitching about Trump spending, what happened to their outrage and anger of spending,while Biden is going hog wild spending ? Fools and stooges silence ? How about it people!
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With NeverTrumpers bitching and bitching about Trump spending, what happened to their outrage and anger of spending,while Biden is going hog wild spending ? Fools and stooges silence ? How about it people!
@christian
The never Trumper stuffs getting a bit long in tooth don't ya think? Why don't you try this golden oldie for a while, 'If you didn't vote for Trump you voted for Biden'. And that bitching and bitching............? Don't get me wrong I don't disagree with everything, or even a lot of things you say, but your ......harshness? tends to make me at times skip what may be a good post. Not trying to start an argument with you, just my personal opinion. Take or leave it, as you will.
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The point is and is ignored is that the the NeverTrumper damage and the longevity of it is with us and may well have contributed to the death of this nation. The stonewalling and denial while following the lies was in your face when the damage was greatly established. This is my Country and as long as their damage is inflicted is as long as they need to be reminded of what their mindless following evil pied pipers is far from innocence and long lasting in the damage. Damage they seem to shirk responsibility there of. They need in their face reminders, as the damage destroys our nation from within and continues today and into tomorrow. They wouldn't listen then, why should their destructive influences be listened to as excuses and rationalizations now ? or even cowering silences now? 3,000 died on 9-11 by democrats buddies, radical muslims. 4,000/million? recently died world wide by China and turned our Country over to radicals burning cities.
If it isn't time to take them and their accomplishes to ask and demand accountability, when will it be ? ? ?
The co-vid and election overthrow and the attempts to overthrow Pres. Trump while in office, just a tip of the iceberg recently!
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Democrats are dangerous to the US.
:bingo: proven for decades!
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With NeverTrumpers bitching and bitching about Trump spending, what happened to their outrage and anger of spending,while Biden is going hog wild spending ? Fools and stooges silence ? How about it people!
RIGHT ON! I wondered too. Don't let others shut you down. 888high58888
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With NeverTrumpers bitching and bitching about Trump spending, what happened to their outrage and anger of spending,while Biden is going hog wild spending ? Fools and stooges silence ? How about it people!
I’m not a NeverTrumper, however many of us did complain about Trump’s overspending and we’re also fretful of Joe Biden.
It’s part of the reason we’re experiencing the inflation we are today.
This is why I don’t believe that Donald Trump is the answer for 2024. Our fiscal situation is becoming dire and it’s the most important issues facing this country long-term. Trump loved to spend just as much as Obama and Joe Biden
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Anyways back to the topic of this thread
I think Amy Klobuchar is ignorant of the history of what she’s advocating. If you told her how all tyrants, without fail, do what she’s proposing, she probably would look at you with a blank stare
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With NeverTrumpers bitching and bitching about Trump spending, what happened to their outrage and anger of spending,while Biden is going hog wild spending ? Fools and stooges silence ? How about it people!
As we run pell mell into hyperinflation, remember all those trillions you approved of with Tumpy's signature.
And you have the balls to criticize those of us who stand for fiscal conservatism.
Hypocrisy.
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The point is and is ignored is that the the NeverTrumper damage and the longevity of it is with us and may well have contributed to the death of this nation. The stonewalling and denial while following the lies was in your face when the damage was greatly established. This is my Country and as long as their damage is inflicted is as long as they need to be reminded of what their mindless following evil pied pipers is far from innocence and long lasting in the damage. Damage they seem to shirk responsibility there of. They need in their face reminders, as the damage destroys our nation from within and continues today and into tomorrow. They wouldn't listen then, why should their destructive influences be listened to as excuses and rationalizations now ? or even cowering silences now? 3,000 died on 9-11 by democrats buddies, radical muslims. 4,000 recently died world wide by China and turned our Country over to radicals burning cities.
If it isn't time to take them and their accomplishes to ask and demand accountability, when will it be ? ? ?
The co-vid and election overthrow and the attempts to overthrow Pres. Trump while in office, just a tip of the iceberg recently!
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As we run pell mell into hyperinflation, remember all those trillions you approved of with Tumpy's signature.
And you have the balls to criticize those of us who stand for fiscal conservatism.
Hypocrisy.
This is why I oppose Trump getting the nomination in 2024. It will be hard for him to make Biden’s overspending an issue
In fact, if I recall, Trump was critical of Biden’s stimulus early this year for not spending enough
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This is why I oppose Trump getting the nomination in 2024. It will be hard for him to make Biden’s overspending an issue
In fact, if I recall, Trump was critical of Biden’s stimulus early this year for not spending enough
There is nothing that would cause me to endorse Tumpy. He dealt a MASSIVE blow to both libertarianism and fiscal conservatism - The very heart of conservatism - and that can never be overlooked. It is appalling to me that so many don't understand what they have done.
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Anybody not smart enough to check weather reports and starts her Presidential aspirations in a snowstorm can't be all that bright
(https://i.insider.com/5c6093d326289805457192e3?width=1190)
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How could it be more clear as they tell us; Trump,Obama and Biden are all the same about spending, that is why we cannot have Trump in office again. Notice they do not say the same of Obama or Biden. They are same? Is your brain working that you cannot see this for what it is? Only Trump gets slammed in the scenario they continually try and press. Democrats not so mysteriously continuously get a pass.
Are Bene Gesserit mind tricks that effect on useful fools and there are so many ?
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How could it be more clear as they tell us; Trump,Obama and Biden are all the same about spending, that is why we cannot have Trump in office again. Notice they do not say the same of Obama or Biden. They are same? Is your brain working that you cannot see this for what it is? Only Trump gets slammed in the scenario they continually try and press. Democrats not so mysteriously continuously get a pass.
Are Bene Gesserit mind tricks that effect on useful fools and there are so many ?
The useful fool is the one voting FOR the theft of our treasure.
And that ain't me.
I didn't and won't vote for Obummer.
I didn't and won't vote for Tumpy.
I didn't and won't vote for Biteme.
They are INDEED all the same. Wholly AGAINST libertarianism, wholly AGAINST fiscal conservatism.
There is NO defense of Tumpy in fiscal matters. NONE.
There is NO defense of Tumpy in libertarian matters. NONE.
That is TWO of three root causes of Conservatism. causes in which he not only failed utterly, but did massive damage that your grandchildren won't pay off. And the ridiculous part of it is that unless you are an imbecile, YOU MUST KNOW IT. And you want more.
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How could it be more clear as they tell us; Trump,Obama and Biden are all the same about spending, that is why we cannot have Trump in office again. Notice they do not say the same of Obama or Biden. They are same? Is your brain working that you cannot see this for what it is? Only Trump gets slammed in the scenario they continually try and press. Democrats not so mysteriously continuously get a pass.
Are Bene Gesserit mind tricks that effect on useful fools and there are so many ?
Point out any poster here who is giving Obama and Biden a pass on spending
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I hope this doesn't become another Trump War thread.
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With apologies to @Cyber Liberty WE ALL expect the commie Dems to spend like a Drunken Sailor, it's what they do. What we were surprised at is that Trump spent like a Drunken Sailor on meth. Most of us 'learned Briefers' knew this would happen, after all, only Cruz campaigned on the Debt/Deficit in 15/16.
Proof was in the pudding, what does a Bankruptcy usually indicate (?) and how many times did Trump do just that????? @christian
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It's still bash Trump, and conceda little bit about democrats, giving the government to democrats. How they love to bawl about Trump, not democrats, and yet bawl when democrats are running the show, while still giving democrats a pass. NOT ME, YOUR CROWD WILL NEVER BE ONE TO BE A PART OF. THE LAUGH, IF YOU TRASH TRUMP ENOUGH, YOU WILL WIN. IN YER DREAMS! Your cancer will not be my cancer.
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It's still bash Trump, and conceda little bit about democrats, giving the government to democrats. How they love to bawl about Trump, not democrats, and yet bawl when democrats are running the show, while still giving democrats a pass. NOT ME, YOUR CROWD WILL NEVER BE ONE TO BE A PART OF. THE LAUGH, IF YOU TRASH TRUMP ENOUGH, YOU WILL WIN. IN YER DREAMS! Your cancer will not be my cancer.
Venezuela... Coming to you... And your prince is every bit as culpable as any. And you defend it.
None for me thanks.
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Venezuela... Coming to you... And your prince is every bit as culpable as any. And you defend it.
None for me thanks.
The inflation we are seeing now is just the beginning. Last year with all the Covid shut downs, there were many people around me who wanted to know where all this money was coming from to be giving checks to people. I assured them they would be paying it all back next year through inflation. I thought I was exaggerating at the time. Not that it wasn’t easy to predict that this would all lead to inflation. I just thought it would take a few years
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https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
Added to debt in the Trillions
Obama 8.59 74%
Trump 6.7 33%
Biden Trillion dollar spending and the wastes there of ignored but still a very aggressive spending rate.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/07/21/joe-biden-democrats-spending-congress-infrastructure-debt-inflation/8026798002/
Charles C.W. Cooke | Opinion contributor
If the Democratic Party gets its way, the federal government will soon add more than $4.1 trillion in spending to the $1.9 trillion it authorized in March. Or, to put it another way: If the Democratic Party gets its way, the federal government will have authorized nearly 1 1/2 times more in spending during the first eight months of Joe Biden’s presidency than it spent in all of 2019. So much for that much-vaunted return to sanity.
6 trillion (some say 8Trillion) divided by 6-8 months is a TRILLION DOLLARS A MONTH, AND Biden has 42 months to go after that. How about spending concern of the rate Biden is spending ? 48 TRILLION AT THE RATE BIDEN IS GOING ? Biden and Obama together, expected 56.59 Trillions as to all that spending by Trump-6.7 Trillion.
Who fishing for and playing fools here ! ? ? ? Can the clueless overcome cluelessness ?
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Venezuela... Coming to you... And your prince is every bit as culpable as any. And you defend it.
None for me thanks.
@roamer_1
Yelling proves his point don't cha know. If Trump would have at least made Pelosi and the dems own the increases by vetoing them making the democrats override his veto he could have owned the high ground, but by just embracing the spending he just put himself into the same spend spend spend politician category as the majority of republicans since, what, newt Gingrich was Speaker? Now I am sure someone here will call me a NT for saying that.
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The inflation we are seeing now is just the beginning. Last year with all the Covid shut downs, there were many people around me who wanted to know where all this money was coming from to be giving checks to people. I assured them they would be paying it all back next year through inflation. I thought I was exaggerating at the time. Not that it wasn’t easy to predict that this would all lead to inflation. I just thought it would take a few years
It DOES take time to show... But it was showing already during the midst of covid - hidden among covid-caused shortages.
Printing money always produces inflation. And they have been printing money since Dubyas nefarious buy-out.
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https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
Added to debt in the Trillions
Obama 8.59 74%
Trump 6.7 33%
Biden Trillion dollar spending and the wastes there of ignored but still a very aggressive spending rate.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/07/21/joe-biden-democrats-spending-congress-infrastructure-debt-inflation/8026798002/
Charles C.W. Cooke | Opinion contributor
If the Democratic Party gets its way, the federal government will soon add more than $4.1 trillion in spending to the $1.9 trillion it authorized in March. Or, to put it another way: If the Democratic Party gets its way, the federal government will have authorized nearly 1 1/2 times more in spending during the first eight months of Joe Biden’s presidency than it spent in all of 2019. So much for that much-vaunted return to sanity.
6 trillion (some say 8Trillion) divided by 6-8 months is a TRILLION DOLLARS A MONTH, AND Biden has 42 months to go after that. How about spending concern of the rate Biden is spending ? 48 TRILLION AT THE RATE BIDEN IS GOING ? Biden and Obama together, expected 56.59 Trillions as to all that spending by Trump-6.7 Trillion.
Who fishing for and playing fools here ! ? ? ? Can the clueless overcome cluelessness ?
You are aware that Trump only served four years versus Obama’s eight correct? By your own numbers, Trump was on the path to surpass Obama had he won a second term
Assuming Biden gets a second term, he may pass Barack Obama. We will see. I believe he will should he get a second term
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You are aware that Trump only served four years versus Obama’s eight correct? By your own numbers, Trump was on the path to surpass Obama had he won a second term
Assuming Biden gets a second term, he may pass Barack Obama. We will see. I believe he will should he get a second term
You think Shortbus Joe should get a second term?
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You think Shortbus Joe should get a second term?
Lol
I meant should he get another term, he will pass Barack Obama in adding to the debt
In fact, should he only get one term he will probably pass Donald Trump
Although after watching clips of that CNN interview, I can’t see him making it to 2024
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https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296
Added to debt in the Trillions
Obama 8.59 74%
in eight years.
Trump 6.7 33%
In four years.
Tunpy spent at twice the rate of Obummer.
Biden Trillion dollar spending and the wastes there of ignored but still a very aggressive spending rate.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/07/21/joe-biden-democrats-spending-congress-infrastructure-debt-inflation/8026798002/
Charles C.W. Cooke | Opinion contributor
If the Democratic Party gets its way, the federal government will soon add more than $4.1 trillion in spending to the $1.9 trillion it authorized in March. Or, to put it another way: If the Democratic Party gets its way, the federal government will have authorized nearly 1 1/2 times more in spending during the first eight months of Joe Biden’s presidency than it spent in all of 2019. So much for that much-vaunted return to sanity.
6 trillion (some say 8Trillion) divided by 6-8 months is a TRILLION DOLLARS A MONTH, AND Biden has 42 months to go after that. How about spending concern of the rate Biden is spending ? 48 TRILLION AT THE RATE BIDEN IS GOING ? Biden and Obama together, expected 56.59 Trillions as to all that spending by Trump-6.7 Trillion.
Who fishing for and playing fools here ! ? ? ? Can the clueless overcome cluelessness ?
The point being that REPUBLICAN SPENDING is SUPPOSED to go IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
Instead of correcting for Obummer's spending, instituting balanced budget and cutting spending, they doubled down and spent MORE. And Tumpy was right at the top signing the checks.
Your proofs are a waste of space. it doesn't matter that Tumpy spent less (which is arguable). At the rate of spending from BOTH SIDES, we are friggin DOOMED. It doesn't matter which side.
When Republicans actually gird their loins and demand their representatives STOP spending, and learn to balance budgets like grown-ups do, THEN I might be persuaded to vote for one. Till then, y'all are doing nothing but adding to the problem. JUST LIKE A DEMOCRAT.
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@roamer_1
Yelling proves his point don't cha know. If Trump would have at least made Pelosi and the dems own the increases by vetoing them making the democrats override his veto he could have owned the high ground, but by just embracing the spending he just put himself into the same spend spend spend politician category as the majority of republicans since, what, newt Gingrich was Speaker? Now I am sure someone here will call me a NT for saying that.
YUP... And I would have less of a leg to stand on, no doubt... But that ain't what happened.
And yeah, since the 94 Congress, there has been *no* attempt to balance the budget and cut spending.
Thanks, but I sure as hell ain't voting for adding to the problem...
Two things you can bet on with Republicans: They are ALWAYS conservatives on the stump - Never trust a damn thing they say in an election - And the first things to go when elected are libertarianism and fiscal conservatism - Right under the bus, every time.
I have come to the point of INSISTING upon Goldwater. If they cannot toe that basic line, they do not deserve my endorsement, no matter how much candy they throw from the front of the parade..
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It's not lost on me that one of the most Conservative Senators (Cruz) voted for all of those budgets that Trump signed off on. Of course he did his usual grandstanding and whining beforehand. That's why I wouldn't give him my vote in 2018.
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You think Shortbus Joe should get a second term?
Don't care. Not at the expense of another big spending liberal Republican ascending. That ain't fixing nothing.
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It's not lost on me that one of the most Conservative Senators (Cruz) voted for all of those budgets that Trump signed off on. Of course he did his usual grandstanding and whining beforehand. That's why I wouldn't give him my vote in 2018.
I have stated openly that I would have trouble voting for Cruz anymore. His ACU rating went from high 90s to mid 80s in less than four years... Considering his prior record, I MIGHT be talked into voting for him, but it would take some doing.
Kissing the ring of the guy who disparaged his wife is really enough for me to lose interest in him - but that came at the expense of a pristine record too.
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Anybody not smart enough to check weather reports and starts her Presidential aspirations in a snowstorm can't be all that bright
(https://i.insider.com/5c6093d326289805457192e3?width=1190)
She certainly is outstanding in a field..
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@roamer_1
Yelling proves his point don't cha know. If Trump would have at least made Pelosi and the dems own the increases by vetoing them making the democrats override his veto he could have owned the high ground, but by just embracing the spending he just put himself into the same spend spend spend politician category as the majority of republicans since, what, newt Gingrich was Speaker? Now I am sure someone here will call me a NT for saying that.
Not correct. But you are allowed your opinion. JOBS WERE COMING BACK IN DROVES...in time it would eliminate the deficit. The JOBS and re-building take time. then voter fraud took out the best POTUS EVER.
LOOK AT OBAMA....8 years no budget. Look at biden. POTUS TRUMP did everything to HELP AMERICA. WHILE, DEMON-RATS and RINO'S BLOCKED HIS EVERY MOVE FOR GOOD. Why don't people get that? DEMON-RATS TOLD YOU. They will resist, block, EVERYTHING POTUS TRUMP WANTED TO DO FOR AMERICA. FOR ALL PEOPLE. And they did. 3 equal powers. TWO ARE TOTALLY CORRUPT. JUDICIAL AND CONGRESS. Two phony impeachments, yet, you keep 'blaming" the only man who did good for America. www.magapill.com
Oh, Newt was speaker during BILL CLINTONS time and made DEMON-RATS toe the line in spending. BILL, though gets the 'credit'. NOT a republican. And they took our paid in Social Security, made it part of general budget..magic 'surplus'.
Then spent that money and left us an I.O.U., which demon-rats don't want to honor now. There is a law, grandfathered in, that those on SS, from a time frame, will still receive SS.
And Vetoing them, at the time, meant NO HELP FOR VETERANS, NOR PAYCHECKS FOR ALL OUR MILITARY FAMILIES. POTUS TRUMP, loves our military. I do too. You would want our military to suffer?
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Obama spent 6 trillion on muslim countries rebuilding. TRILLION OF PALLETS of money to Iran. POTUS TRUMP..spent money wisely, and used it to help ALL AMERICANS, esp our military, which obama depleted to 1945 standards! All kind of items were DEPLETED FOR AMERICANS BY OBAMA. So, when our cupboard is bare, a new president has to fill up the depletion.
With a "new business' there will be some expenses. No one is qualified to talk about POTUS TRUMP and what went on inside the WH. Even Mike Pence is a traitor. BLAME MIKE PENCE..he made us a communist country. Get off POTUS TRUMPS BACK!
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It's still bash Trump, and conceda little bit about democrats, giving the government to democrats. How they love to bawl about Trump, not democrats, and yet bawl when democrats are running the show, while still giving democrats a pass. NOT ME, YOUR CROWD WILL NEVER BE ONE TO BE A PART OF. THE LAUGH, IF YOU TRASH TRUMP ENOUGH, YOU WILL WIN. IN YER DREAMS! Your cancer will not be my cancer.
:bingo: :thumbsup:
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Not correct. But you are allowed your opinion. JOBS WERE COMING BACK IN DROVES...in time it would eliminate the deficit. The JOBS and re-building take time. then voter fraud took out the best POTUS EVER.
Horsesh*t. He shut the country off. He SHUT_IT_FRIGGIN_OFF. 6O% of small business DIED.
Y'all gotta take off the orange-colored glasses.
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Obama spent 6 trillion on muslim countries rebuilding. TRILLION OF PALLETS of money to Iran. POTUS TRUMP..spent money wisely, and used it to help ALL AMERICANS, esp our military, which obama depleted to 1945 standards! All kind of items were DEPLETED FOR AMERICANS BY OBAMA. So, when our cupboard is bare, a new president has to fill up the depletion.
With a "new business' there will be some expenses. No one is qualified to talk about POTUS TRUMP and what went on inside the WH. Even Mike Pence is a traitor. BLAME MIKE PENCE..he made us a communist country. Get off POTUS TRUMPS BACK!
This is why our fiscal path is dire and will only get worse.
Unsustainable spending is ok when "my guy" does it for "my causes."
Too much printing, spending, borrowing has the same effect on the dollar and economy regardless if that money is used for Military personel or healthcare for illegals
All presidents, esp starting with GWB and beyond, have put us on an unsustainable path with lots of help from Congress
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Psst, the subject of this thread is Klobuchar and her attempt to stifle freedom of speech.
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Back on Topic.
Minnesota (or Dominion) must love her, she has never lost a State wide race with less than 58%. She was the Senator speaking with Cruz rebutting the AZ Vote when the DC Cops let in the people with alterative motives on 1/6.
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A few years ago, there was a Democrat in the state house of CA who was tryin to introduce a bill that would impose penalties on any entity that posted "fake news." That went no where and this will also
The question will always be "who defines what's disinformation?"
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This is why our fiscal path is dire and will only get worse.
Unsustainable spending is ok when "my guy" does it for "my causes."
Too much printing, spending, borrowing has the same effect on the dollar and economy regardless if that money is used for Military personel or healthcare for illegals
All presidents, esp starting with GWB and beyond, have put us on an unsustainable path with lots of help from Congress
That is precisely right.
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With the facts displayed of Trumps spending versus Obama and bidens projected spending track record, you must have a reading comprehension/impediment, corbe.
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GtHawk:
The never Trumper stuffs getting a bit long in tooth don't ya think?
christian:
Far more does the damage Biden is doing and continues to do to our Country because of stupids that went along with NeverTrumper lies, the damage done to our nation is continuous, and so the credit to useful/dupliticous fools goes along with the damage that keeps being done. When the damage ends, so will my criticism, which isn't likely to be any time soon.
GtHawk:
Why don't you try this golden oldie for a while, 'If you didn't vote for Trump you voted for Biden'. And that bitching and bitching............?
christian:
That bitching, bitching, bitching is about what this nation now endures because of democrats and NeverTrumpers. They were proud to force this calamity upon this country, let them be just as proud to wear the mantle-price to be paid for what they have done.
They don't get a break for what they did at election time, they earned the reputation and results they fought so hard for. They fought, they won, let them endure the full results and consequences of their victory that now costs us now daily.
When the nation gets a break from the carnage Biden is doing, then ask me to give the NeverTrumpers a break, their cohorts in the election crime, not until then. No promises,no guarantees
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With the facts displayed of Trumps spending versus Obama and bidens projected spending track record, you must have a reading comprehension/impediment, corbe.
Even if true, Tumpy raised the bar set by Obummer by TWICE the rate. And you awarded him with your endorsement. Y'all send Republicans the signal that you're alright with massive overspending. And it seems you are, as you defend it.
Republicans and certainly Conservatives would CUT spending, and that drastically, to deserve any praise.
Anyone purporting to stand for small government knows that government spending is the first cause and remedy. Less money means less government.
Your 'slightly better than a democrat' shtick holds no water. Indefensible.
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Take a Biden bow, roamer, biden might not of made it without you and your buddies to do to this nation what they are now doing.
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[...]the damage done to our nation is continuous, and so the credit to useful/dupliticous fools goes along with the damage that keeps being done.
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That bitching, bitching, bitching is about what this nation now endures because of democrats and NeverTrumpers.
The continuous damage is because Republicans did NOTHING to correct and relieve it while they had power. They could have passed balanced budgeting laws and headed this off at the pass, before the fact. They could have cut spending when they cut taxes and started us down the path toward the black.
But they didn't. They doubled down.
So bitch about your own feckless party that does nothing to stop it.
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Take a Biden bow, roamer, biden might not of made it without you and your buddies to do to this nation what they are now doing.
Maybe actually DO SOMETHING next time you get power. Then maybe folks would vote for you like you want.
Doing NOTHING, and in fact doubling down and spending MORE is never going to get you my vote.
And the customer is always right. You don't own my vote. You have to earn it. And I don't want a damn thing you're selling.
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Such denials of the massive and pervasive Army of the deep Stater socialist everywhere, as we saw some of it while President Trump was in office. They might resent your denial of their everywhere power base, roamer. You wouldn't want your marionette puppet masters to get mad at you, would you ?
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Such denials of the massive and pervasive Army of the deep Stater socialist everywhere, as we saw some of it while President Trump was in office. They might resent your denial of their everywhere power base, roamer. You wouldn't want your marionette puppet masters to get mad at you, would you ?
HAHAHAHA! Of course I deny their 'everywhere power' - Because that is utterly false and laughable. They have no power here, where I can go days, weeks even, without seeing another soul. They are not only not powerful here - They are non-existent. Heck, basic law is nonexistent just a few miles from right here.
More to the point, how then can they be my puppet masters when I not only do not recognize their power, but exist where they have no power at all - Where they ARE NOT?
YOU'D be the one declaring them all powerful, and worrying that they might react angrily... Sounds like the sort of thing a city boy would think... Because anywhere merely rural is well beyond their reach - And rural is downtown to me...
Perhaps you'd best go look in the mirror for them puppet strings. :silly:
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Even if true, Tumpy raised the bar set by Obummer by TWICE the rate. And you awarded him with your endorsement. Y'all send Republicans the signal that you're alright with massive overspending. And it seems you are, as you defend it.
Republicans and certainly Conservatives would CUT spending, and that drastically, to deserve any praise.
Anyone purporting to stand for small government knows that government spending is the first cause and remedy. Less money means less government.
Your 'slightly better than a democrat' shtick holds no water. Indefensible.
Did you ever call Biden, Bidie?
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Did you ever call Biden, Bidie?
No.
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Did you ever call Biden, Bidie?
Of course not. He loves Traitor Joe.
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Of course not. He loves Traitor Joe.
Sophomoric bullshit.
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Sophomoric bullshit.
So you deny taking this picture in your dorm room way back then @roamer_1
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/03/30/hillary-clinton-wellesley1_custom-a8c5ca1d2549da0d91af7a8c17f059b1a7ded8c0.jpg)
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So you deny taking this picture in your dorm room way back then @roamer_1
That would be hard telling, as drunk as I was... Except I never had a dorm room, and no self respecting hilljilly would be caught dead in pants like them... So yeah @corbe , I can confidently deny it, even in my tequila driven stupor years.
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So you deny taking this picture in your dorm room way back then @roamer_1
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/03/30/hillary-clinton-wellesley1_custom-a8c5ca1d2549da0d91af7a8c17f059b1a7ded8c0.jpg)
That picture makes me want to go to her house and punch her momma in the mouth.
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So you deny taking this picture in your dorm room way back then @roamer_1
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/03/30/hillary-clinton-wellesley1_custom-a8c5ca1d2549da0d91af7a8c17f059b1a7ded8c0.jpg)
She can't help it. She's a victim of circus pants.
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She can't help it. She's a victim of circus pants.
And she did marry a clown.
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christian:
Far more does the damage Biden is doing and continues to do to our Country because of stupids that went along with NeverTrumper lies, the damage done to our nation is continuous, and so the credit to useful/dupliticous fools goes along with the damage that keeps being done. When the damage ends, so will my criticism, which isn't likely to be any time soon.
christian:
That bitching, bitching, bitching is about what this nation now endures because of democrats and NeverTrumpers. They were proud to force this calamity upon this country, let them be just as proud to wear the mantle-price to be paid for what they have done.
They don't get a break for what they did at election time, they earned the reputation and results they fought so hard for. They fought, they won, let them endure the full results and consequences of their victory that now costs us now daily.
When the nation gets a break from the carnage Biden is doing, then ask me to give the NeverTrumpers a break, their cohorts in the election crime, not until then. No promises,no guarantees
Right on, most people have a disorder. They have a lot of envy. I say envy is the root of all evil, not love of money.
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Right on, most people have a disorder. They have a lot of envy. I say envy is the root of all evil, not love of money.
You keep playing that crap. I have ZERO envy for Tumpy. I want nothing he has. And now, even less respect.
I legitimately refused to vote for him the first time around because he was boorish and a liar, and because his record pegged him as a proponent of big government and a big spender - All confirmed, before and after the fact.
And I refused to endorse him the second time directly on principle - His DISASTROUS damage to fiscal conservatism and libertarianism - Two of the three root causes of conservatism, which cannot be denied.
And rather than admit his abject failure to uphold those conservative principles, which are the only thing I care about politically, instead of taking me on my word in that, which really should be no surprise at all, that a Conservative would be supremely offended by the damage wrought by his administration, you have to make up some goofy-assed reason like envy to demean me, as if that somehow justifies putting my grandchildren in debt, as though I should accept that with favor... And there must be something wrong with me instead of your fetid prince.
Y'all are destroying Conservatism, which is our only hope of correcting this mess.
Likewise your cohorts, who try to force me to bend a knee because Biteme may be worse. I don't care if Biteme may be worse. That is beside the point. The point is whether one can justify endorsing someone - rewarding someone who did so much damage to the Conservative cause, as if what the other side may do is reason enough for throwing Conservatism away - Giving up the fight to enforce Conservative principles on the right - overlook the abject failure at the cost of Conservatism itself.
Because if the right will not return to Conservatism and stand for what we purport to believe in, all is already lost and there is no remedy to bring to bear against the liberals, as y'all will have torn down the very foundations we stand upon.
That may be alright with you - But I will not help you bring Conservatism down in order to justify your prince.
Maybe this will realign you:
The enemy is not the liberals. The enemy is big government. Without the overweening federal behemoth, the liberals hold no power at all and fade to nothing...
What is the remedy against big government? Conservatism. Period.
Fiscal Conservatism.
Federalism as found in libertarianism.
The very things y'all damaged. The very things y'all threw under the bus.
And then you wonder why I will not help you.
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Stay on topic or this thread gets deep-sixed.
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Great Post @roamer_1 though I still think you will be labeled a dem lover by some here.
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Great Post @roamer_1 though I still think you will be labeled a dem lover by some here.
:beer: :seeya:
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You keep playing that crap. I have ZERO envy for Tumpy. I want nothing he has. And now, even less respect.
I legitimately refused to vote for him the first time around because he was boorish and a liar, and because his record pegged him as a proponent of big government and a big spender - All confirmed, before and after the fact.
And I refused to endorse him the second time directly on principle - His DISASTROUS damage to fiscal conservatism and libertarianism - Two of the three root causes of conservatism, which cannot be denied.
And rather than admit his abject failure to uphold those conservative principles, which are the only thing I care about politically, instead of taking me on my word in that, which really should be no surprise at all, that a Conservative would be supremely offended by the damage wrought by his administration, you have to make up some goofy-assed reason like envy to demean me, as if that somehow justifies putting my grandchildren in debt, as though I should accept that with favor... And there must be something wrong with me instead of your fetid prince.
Y'all are destroying Conservatism, which is our only hope of correcting this mess.
Likewise your cohorts, who try to force me to bend a knee because Biteme may be worse. I don't care if Biteme may be worse. That is beside the point. The point is whether one can justify endorsing someone - rewarding someone who did so much damage to the Conservative cause, as if what the other side may do is reason enough for throwing Conservatism away - Giving up the fight to enforce Conservative principles on the right - overlook the abject failure at the cost of Conservatism itself.
Because if the right will not return to Conservatism and stand for what we purport to believe in, all is already lost and there is no remedy to bring to bear against the liberals, as y'all will have torn down the very foundations we stand upon.
That may be alright with you - But I will not help you bring Conservatism down in order to justify your prince.
Maybe this will realign you:
The enemy is not the liberals. The enemy is big government. Without the overweening federal behemoth, the liberals hold no power at all and fade to nothing...
What is the remedy against big government? Conservatism. Period.
Fiscal Conservatism.
Federalism as found in libertarianism.
The very things y'all damaged. The very things y'all threw under the bus.
And then you wonder why I will not help you.
Good post
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Good post
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corbe:
Great Post @roamer_1 though I still think you will be labeled a dem lover by some here.
I thought who some one sleeps with here was not to be an issue ? Shame corbe, shame!
22222frying pan ****slapping :silly: ****slapping 22222frying pan
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Klobuchar: My Bill Will Make Social Media Companies ‘Liable’ if They Don’t Take Down COVID ‘Crap’
So what is the liability for telling the truth?
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Y'all are destroying Conservatism, which is our only hope of correcting this mess.
Likewise your cohorts, who try to force me to bend a knee because Biteme may be worse. I don't care if Biteme may be worse. That is beside the point. The point is whether one can justify endorsing someone - rewarding someone who did so much damage to the Conservative cause, as if what the other side may do is reason enough for throwing Conservatism away - Giving up the fight to enforce Conservative principles on the right - overlook the abject failure at the cost of Conservatism itself.
Because if the right will not return to Conservatism and stand for what we purport to believe in, all is already lost and there is no remedy to bring to bear against the liberals, as y'all will have torn down the very foundations we stand upon.
That may be alright with you - But I will not help you bring Conservatism down in order to justify your prince.
Maybe this will realign you:
The enemy is not the liberals. The enemy is big government. Without the overweening federal behemoth, the liberals hold no power at all and fade to nothing...
What is the remedy against big government? Conservatism. Period.
Fiscal Conservatism.
Federalism as found in libertarianism.
The very things y'all damaged. The very things y'all threw under the bus.
And then you wonder why I will not help you.
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T H I S is why I want to have @roamer_1 's baby.