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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: mystery-ak on January 16, 2024, 02:32:10 pm
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January 15, 2024 9:48pm EST
Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold: 'A bunch of dead robots out here'
Chicago and much of the Midwest were plunged into a deep freeze
By Louis Casiano FOXBusiness
Desperate Tesla owners in and around Chicago were seen trying to charge their vehicles with no luck amid frigid temperatures that have gripped the Midwest.
Charging stations have essentially turned into car graveyards in recent days as temperatures have dropped to the negative double digits, Fox Chicago reported.
"Nothing. No juice. Still on zero percent," Tyler Beard, who had been trying to recharge his Tesla at an Oak Brook, Illinois Tesla supercharging station since Sunday afternoon, told the news outlet. "And this is like three hours being out here after being out here three hours yesterday."
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Someone pushes a Tesla at a Chicago-area vehicle charging station where many of the electric vehicles have been forced to sit amid freezing temperatures. Many of the vehicles failed to charge at stations around Chicago amid the cold weather. (WFLD / Fox News)
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So predictable for anyone who has endured a Polar Vortex ... battery-killing cold.
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Reality meets hype...
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Batteries perform poorly in REALLY cold weather? Who knew? Evidently, not some Chicago residents, :silly: .
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Batteries perform poorly in REALLY cold weather? Who knew? Evidently, not some Chicago residents, :silly: .
Indeed. Funny how that works. :laugh:
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Am I smoking crack? You'd think that EV manufacturers would house the battery in an insulated cocoon of sorts. :shrug:
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In a sane reality, this would be an early wake up call to our society, who is hell bent being stupid bending a knee to the enviro-whackos.
As long as there is 190 proof booze, and my '07 flex fuel Nissan Titan is alive, you'll never see the title of an Effin EV at this house.
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"Nothing. No juice. Still on zero percent," Tyler Beard, who had been trying to recharge his Tesla at an Oak Brook, Illinois Tesla supercharging station since Sunday afternoon, told the news outlet. "And this is like three hours being out here after being out here three hours yesterday."
In other words, Conservatives have been right this entire time. Maybe you can get John Kerry or Algore to drive over in the gasoline-powered Cadillac Escalade or Land Rover that they own to give you a lift.
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Am I smoking crack? You'd think that EV manufacturers would house the battery in an insulated cocoon of sorts. :shrug:
What good is insulation without a heat source?
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https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1110149_tesla-model-s-battery-life-what-the-data-show-so-far (https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1110149_tesla-model-s-battery-life-what-the-data-show-so-far)
Seems like the bottom part of the chassis is entirely batteries. I wonder if they get hot while in use.
@Jack Russell
Thanks for that link! :beer:
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What good is insulation without a heat source?
Dangit, @roamer_1 . There you go again throwing logic on the dumpster fire.
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What good is insulation without a heat source?
@roamer_1
None...when you phrase it that way! :laugh: :beer:
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What good is insulation without a heat source?
(https://i.imgflip.com/8ck122.jpg)
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Give a man an EV and he'll be warm till the battery dies. Set the man's EV on fire and he'll be warm for 7 to 10 days.
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Put an electric blanket around it.
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Put an electric blanket around it.
A battery-charged one.
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Put an electric blanket around it.
Oil dipstictk/Engine warmer.
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It has a lot of plastic.
A match ought to warm it up quickly...
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What good is insulation without a heat source?
It keeps the cold in. All summer, people could put beer in there...
The local Dominos Pizza had bought a couple of EVs (Chevy Volts) to use as delivery vehicles. They've been DOA at their shop, one towed off to a warmer place...less than two years old.
Somehow, "I tolja so" just seems insufficient.
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Somehow, "I tolja so" just seems insufficient.
:yowsa:
Buy em books and buy em books... :shrug:
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Lol, my gas truck would not start today either.... Single digit temps killed my battery too.... I didn't need it, so I just left it on charge overnight.
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Lol, my gas truck would not start today either.... Single digit temps killed my battery too.... I didn't need it, so I just left it on charge overnight.
If you can't plug it in, drag the battery out and bring it inside with you. Let it get warm and it will start it fine.
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What good is insulation without a heat source?
Well when the battery decides to go towering inferno that insulation would be great for putting even more toxic chemicals into the air :tongue2:
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Growing up, we didn't have a car garage, so when the Montreal Express (local 1970s/1980s name for Polar Vortex) blew in, my parents would run the cars for 15-20 minutes every couple of hours to keep them running through the polar cold spells.
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Growing up, we didn't have a car garage, so when the Montreal Express (local 1970s/1980s name for Polar Vortex) blew in, my parents would run the cars for 15-20 minutes every couple of hours to keep them running through the polar cold spells.
Isn't that what the greenies call excessive idling and now illegal in many places?
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Isn't that what the greenies call excessive idling and now illegal in many places?
Absolutely.
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Growing up, we didn't have a car garage, so when the Montreal Express (local 1970s/1980s name for Polar Vortex) blew in, my parents would run the cars for 15-20 minutes every couple of hours to keep them running through the polar cold spells.
We don't have garages... well, the tractor is generally in the barn, but other than that, all our rigs have battery controllers, and battery heaters, and block heaters, and oil heaters... you just plug em in for a half hour in the morning and they'll start fine.
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Growing up, we didn't have a car garage, so when the Montreal Express (local 1970s/1980s name for Polar Vortex) blew in, my parents would run the cars for 15-20 minutes every couple of hours to keep them running through the polar cold spells.
Dad would always remind me how much he disliked idleing... "Bad for the car, oil does not pump unless you are moving"... So even to this day, I move the truck at least a little instead of just leaving it there. (Even if I just rock back and forth a few dozen feet while the windshield defrosts.)
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It is the first 20 seconds or so that causes the most wear on an engine when you start it. It takes a little bit of time to get oil everywhere if it has been sitting for awhile. The other thing is, it takes a little heat so the parts fit correctly for minimum wear.
So basically, the faster you get it warmed up the better. That means don't let it sit and idle for awhile, at least ideally...
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EV’s stuck for days unable to charge in frozen Chicago : “A bunch of dead robots”
EV, electric cars, stuck at charging stations.
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By Jo Nova
“Plugged in and not charging”
In the deep freeze this week, people all over Canada and the USA are finding out how complicated it is to own an EV in cold weather.
Not only do the cars lose a hefty 30 to 50% of their range, but the battery itself can’t accept charge if it gets too cold, so EV’s need to precondition their batteries before they can start to charge. (To precondition is EV-jargon for “warming them up”.) However, there is a point, as temperatures fall, where batteries cannot even heat themselves enough so they can start charging. They have to drain the battery to charge the battery. It’s a death-spiral towards a frozen singularity.
How cold is too cold? The ideal temperature for charging an EV is 15 – 35°C (or 60-95 F) so some advise preconditioning the battery when it’s below 15C. But the charging speed declines as the chemical reactions slow down, and it reaches nothing at about 0°C (32F). So if the car is minus five, the battery won’t even accept a charge.
At the supercharging station in Oak Brook Chicago, people have been trying for days to charge their EVs, which are stuck immobile at the charging station while the queues grow. People without a home charger are rather screwed:
https://joannenova.com.au/2024/01/evs-stuck-for-days-unable-to-charge-in-frozen-chicago-a-bunch-of-dead-robots/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=evs-stuck-for-days-unable-to-charge-in-frozen-chicago-a-bunch-of-dead-robots
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I know I might sound like a broken record, but I am hoping someone documents via film or a collage of pictures of the expressions of people's faces when they get the Mechanic's bill when those EV's batteries goes out.
These cold weather and brown out disasters are only half the fun.
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