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Why is Erdogan allowed to fund Muslim Brotherhood mosques in America?
Daniel Horowitz · October 17, 2019
Who would ever have thought we’d see a time when the media, Democrats, and establishment Republicans would suddenly mark Turkish president and de facto Muslim Brotherhood leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan as the most dangerous threat to the world? For once, I actually agree (mostly) with their feigned outrage, except that I’m truly outraged by Erdogan. If Republicans were smart, they’d call the Democrats’ bluff on their new anti-Erdogan crusade and ban his government from spreading poison on our soil.
If Erdogan is now the biggest threat to global security because of his actions in the Syrian civil war, then shouldn’t we be more concerned with his subversion activities in our own country by a factor of a million? Thus, Democrats most certainly would want to prevent Erdogan from radicalizing Muslims living in America and investigate the organizations with ties to his government, right?
On April 2, 2016, Erdogan officiated at the inauguration ceremony of the Diyanet Center of America (DCA), the largest mosque in North America, located in Lanham, Maryland. Some of the top leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood organizations were in attendance and pictured with Erdogan. Where does the name Diyanet come from? The mosque’s website states that it “works in full cooperation with the Religious Affairs Directorate of the Republic of Turkey (Diyanet).†In other words, it is Erdogan’s largest foothold in America, controlled through his religious affairs office. Erdogan spent $100 million on that mosque...………...
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/erdogan-allowed-fund-muslim-brotherhood-mosques-america/ (https://www.conservativereview.com/news/erdogan-allowed-fund-muslim-brotherhood-mosques-america/)
I usually don't disagree with Horowitz. But I don't consider concern about Syria feigned outrage. I just don't agree with him on Turkey and Syria at all. Perhaps with the left it is feigned. I don't know, but we should be concerned with Trumps "friend" and his Muslim Brotherhood activities here in the U.S.
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:raise hand:
Because Putin made Trump Erdogan's bitch?
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:raise hand:
Because Putin made Trump Erdogan's bitch?
How?
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How?
Putin has the pee tape
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1. The First Amendment Free Exercise clause includes Muslims.
2. The US has no laws forbidding foreigners from contributing to US religious groups or other charities.
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1. The First Amendment Free Exercise clause includes Muslims.
2. The US has no laws forbidding foreigners from contributing to US religious groups or other charities.
Error. Islam is not a religion. That is the lie. It is a political force, using that as a ploy for islamization of America. CAIR tell's you that. 2014. Islam & constitution are OPPOSITES. You need proof? WWW.THERELIGIONOFPEACE.COM (http://WWW.THERELIGIONOFPEACE.COM)
They are undermining our country. They used to be banned from our country in the 50's. Subversive.
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Because Muslims are anti-white,anti-Christian,and anti-Republican.
I wish all questions were this easy to answer.
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***Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.***
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.**** The religious component is a beard for all the other components.****
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called**** ‘religious rights.’****
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
***From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ). (Already done in USA at Walmart)
At this point,10%, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Obamcare does not have penalties for muslims ,only infidels in this country.
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s (supposed) to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: we know however that this isn’t true is it...?
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
"Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons...and they are coming to a neighborhood near you...so keep thinking they are not going to harm you and they "accept" you."
1- Jihad, defined as****** "to war against non-Muslims *****to establish the religion," *****is the**** duty of every Muslim***** and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.
34-It is ***obligatory for a Muslim to lie *****if the purpose is obligatory. That means that for the ****sake of abiding with Islam's commandments, such as jihad,**** a Muslim is obliged to lie**** and should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this kind of lying."
http://www.lady-patriots.com/... (http://www.lady-patriots.com/...)
The leader and founder of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations) Omar M. Ahmad said:
“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant,†he said. “The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth,†2014
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Error. Islam is not a religion. That is the lie. It is a political force, using that as a ploy for islamization of America. CAIR tell's you that. 2014. Islam & constitution are
@LegalAmerican
True,as far as it goes. Islam IS a form of government instead of a religion,but their goal is to turn the entire world into Islamic slave states.
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Error. Islam is not a religion. That is the lie. It is a political force, using that as a ploy for islamization of America. ...
Islam is a religion. Just as Judaism is a religion whose holy books give the legal system for a nation.
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***Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.***
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components.**** The religious component is a beard for all the other components.****
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called**** ‘religious rights.’****
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
***From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ). (Already done in USA at Walmart)
At this point,10%, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels: Obamcare does not have penalties for muslims ,only infidels in this country.
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s (supposed) to be peace because everybody is a Muslim: we know however that this isn’t true is it...?
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
"Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons...and they are coming to a neighborhood near you...so keep thinking they are not going to harm you and they "accept" you."
1- Jihad, defined as****** "to war against non-Muslims *****to establish the religion," *****is the**** duty of every Muslim***** and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.
34-It is ***obligatory for a Muslim to lie *****if the purpose is obligatory. That means that for the ****sake of abiding with Islam's commandments, such as jihad,**** a Muslim is obliged to lie**** and should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this kind of lying."
http://www.lady-patriots.com/... (http://www.lady-patriots.com/...)
The leader and founder of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations) Omar M. Ahmad said:
“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant,†he said. “The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth,†2014
Exactly and these Jihad Watch articles on Erdogan show his agenda is for Islam worldwide. He specifically says that it is already happening in Europe. So if there is nothing saying that a leader of a foreign nation that promotes terrorism cannot invest in that agenda here there should be.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/turkish-leaders-islamic-takeover-of-europe-inevitable (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/turkish-leaders-islamic-takeover-of-europe-inevitable)
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/turkeys-erdogan-issues-veiled-threat-of-jewish-genocide-refers-to-statement-of-muhammad-about-muslims-killing-jews (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/turkeys-erdogan-issues-veiled-threat-of-jewish-genocide-refers-to-statement-of-muhammad-about-muslims-killing-jews)
Interesting:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/07/recep-tayyip-erdogan-spirals-downward (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/07/recep-tayyip-erdogan-spirals-downward)
Whoa:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/erdogan-declares-istanbul-is-islam-bul-not-constantinople (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/06/erdogan-declares-istanbul-is-islam-bul-not-constantinople)
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/11/erdogan-the-aim-of-the-term-moderate-islam-is-to-weaken-islam (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/11/erdogan-the-aim-of-the-term-moderate-islam-is-to-weaken-islam)
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Islam is a religion. Just as Judaism is a religion whose holy books give the legal system for a nation.
It is a religion, but not just a religion. It is a full governing system. And according to the interpretations of Erdogan there is no moderate Islam. And his agenda is for his brand of Islam to take control of the world. He is already proclaiming Europe lost.
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PeteS in CA wrote:
"1. The First Amendment Free Exercise clause includes muslims."
A fatal flaw for our nation's future where islam is concerned.
The founders could not have foreseen this in their time.
And that's why the only effective tool we have against stopping islam's rise here is to change this:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
... to this:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The followers of muhammed are specifically excluded and denied the protections of this amendment along with any and all other Constitutional protections. Neither the United States nor the Several States will offer such protections or liberties to the followers of muhammed."
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From twitter:
Imam of Peace @Imamofpeace
Nothing to see here, just Erdogan’s TRT state television doing nothing other than promoting US Rep Ilhan Qatar (@IlhanMN) and asking everyone to donate to her campaign. Next is the promotion of @lsarsour.
Read my article on the Qatar-Ilhan Media romance: https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/qatari-medias-promotion-of-rep-ilhan-omar-is-alarming
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHW1EAXWwAQH9KO?format=jpg&name=small)
6:54 PM · Oct 20, 2019
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From twitter:
Well it looks like Erdogan will be another "friend" of Trumps that's working for the Democrats.
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Islam to me, is a Theocracy, a whole governing system as in Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Speaking of Saudi Arabia, they've probably put some money too, in Mosques in the US.
Muslim Brotherhood, basically outlawed in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and UAE.
There are indications, Erdogan is an opportunist too, he kept a low-profile for a while per Islam, now is likely using it but I watched that video saying, he can use these things to his advantage. I guess, this all appeals to Turkish Nationalists or maybe that is just the invasion. I don't know if the Nationalists are deep in to the religion or as I said, actually, a Theocracy.
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It is a religion, but not just a religion. It is a full governing system. And according to the interpretations of Erdogan there is no moderate Islam. And his agenda is for his brand of Islam to take control of the world. He is already proclaiming Europe lost.
Islam to me, is a Theocracy, a whole governing system as in Saudi Arabia and Iran.
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Islam being a religion, it is included in the protections of the First Amendment. As I pointed out, Judaism includes a governing system in its holy books. ETA, a Theocracy, if you will. So inclusion of a governing system ETA, (Theocratic or otherwise), is not relevant to discussion of what is protected by the First Amendment's Establishment and Free Exercise clauses. There are some religious-motivated acts that are not protected by the First Amendment: human sacrifice; honor killing; murder; etc.. Urging Islam's ideas is as legal as urging Christian or Jewish or Hindu or ... ideas. But violence is is not protected when cloaked in a religion.
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PeteS in CA wrote:
"1. The First Amendment Free Exercise clause includes muslims."
A fatal flaw for our nation's future where islam is concerned.
The founders could not have foreseen this in their time.
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I'm pretty sure the founders were very aware of the history of the conquest of the Byzantine Empire, Muslim conquest of Spain and the battle of Tours, constant efforts by the Turks to conquer Eastern Europe, and piracy in the Mediterranean.
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I'm pretty sure the founders were very aware of the history of the conquest of the Byzantine Empire, Muslim conquest of Spain and the battle of Tours, constant efforts by the Turks to conquer Eastern Europe, and piracy in the Mediterranean.
@PeterS
Of course they were. They just didn't think Americans would ever be foolish enough to allow Islam into America.
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I'm pretty sure the founders were very aware of the history of the conquest of the Byzantine Empire, Muslim conquest of Spain and the battle of Tours, constant efforts by the Turks to conquer Eastern Europe, and piracy in the Mediterranean.
I think so to. The Constitution does guarantee that no religion is established as the religion. But some states have passed laws to make sure there is no Sharia creep.
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Islam is slowly creeping into our society, the Muslim Brotherhood is in our Congress, some cities within the U.S. are majority Muslim and there are some states adopting laws to ensure that the Constitution superceedes Islamic law.
People need to wake up!
Islam is the third largest religion in the United States, after Christianity and Judaism. A 2017 study estimated that 3.45 million Muslims were living in the United States, about 1.1 percent of the total U.S. population. According to the Pew Research Center, up to 25% of Muslims in the United States are converts.
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@PeterS
Of course they were. They just didn't think Americans would ever be foolish enough to allow Islam into America.
I missed that article in or Amendment to the Constitution. Got a source for that claim?
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I missed that article in or Amendment to the Constitution. Got a source for that claim?
@PeteS in CA
Huh?
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Islam is a religion. Just as Judaism is a religion whose holy books give the legal system for a nation.
@PeteS in CA
Islam is NOT a religion! It is a political system cloaked as religion.
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@PeteS in CA
Huh?
You made this claim about US founders, "They just didn't think Americans would ever be foolish enough to allow Islam into America." I pointed out that support for this claim is lacking in the Constitution and its Amendments and asked what information you have that supports your claim. I'm pretty sure my post was pretty clear, but since you asked ...
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@PeteS in CA
Islam is NOT a religion! It is a political system cloaked as religion.
@Bigun
BINGO! Good to see someone else "get's it".
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You made this claim about US founders, "They just didn't think Americans would ever be foolish enough to allow Islam into America."
@PeteS in CA
Yes,I did. America was created by people fleeing from dogmatic European countries where there were no individual freedoms unless you were a member of the protected classes. In other words,people who wanted to live free. Name ONE person that lives free in an Islamic police state in all of history.
I pointed out that support for this claim is lacking in the Constitution and its Amendments and asked what information you have that supports your claim.
The preamble to the US Constitution,which states "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." is a good place to start. Islam is a police state where every aspect of the people's daily lives are controlled by Mullahs enforcing religious law.
Frankly,I am surprised I have to point this out.
I'm pretty sure my post was pretty clear, but since you asked ...
I'm pretty sure it wasn't,or I wouldn't have asked.
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@PeteS in CA
Islam is NOT a religion! It is a political system cloaked as religion.
Islam is a religion. Just like Judaism is a religion. Further, Islam's "political system" is not spelled out in the Qur'an the way it is in the Torah, specifically the latter half of the book of Exodus, the book of Leviticus, and the book of Deuteronomy. So if having a "political system" make Islam not a religion, then by that "reasoning" Judaism is even more definitely not a religion.
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Islam is a religion. Just like Judaism is a religion. .
@PeteS in CA
Both are religious police states,but Islam is MUCH more severe and Israel doesn't seem to give a damn about religious conquest and worldwide control.
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@PeteS in CA
Yes,I did. America was created by people fleeing from dogmatic European countries where there were no individual freedoms unless you were a member of the protected classes. In other words,people who wanted to live free. Name ONE person that lives free in an Islamic police state in all of history.
The preamble to the US Constitution,which states "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." is a good place to start. Islam is a police state where every aspect of the people's daily lives are controlled by Mullahs enforcing religious law.
Frankly,I am surprised I have to point this out.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't,or I wouldn't have asked.
Non sequitor. Haters of religion have similarly claimed that Christianity would create a "police state where every aspect of the people's daily lives are controlled by" priests and pastors and theologians "enforcing religious law".
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Non sequitor. Haters of religion have similarly claimed that Christianity would create a "police state where every aspect of the people's daily lives are controlled by" priests and pastors and theologians "enforcing religious law".
@PeteS in CA
Non sequitor. Haters of religion have similarly claimed that Christianity would create a "police state where every aspect of the people's daily lives are controlled by" priests and pastors and theologians "enforcing religious law".
@PeteS in CA
The FF's were well familiar with the history of "The Reformation" in Europe and the horrors it produced,and that is why they wrote the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Odd that you seem to have never heard of it.
Here it is for your amusement.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
Please name a Muslim nation with such religious exceptions.
BTW,I have met several Catholics in my own lifetime that get so mad when you mention that their faces turn red and the spit and sputter. They claim that Catholicism is the "only true religion" and any nation not dominated by it are "Godless". If these fools are still running around today,just imagine what they were like in the 1700's.