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Title: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: mystery-ak on January 28, 2020, 02:13:09 pm
begins at 1pm

I will be late to this thread..I have a Dr appt about the same time as it starts
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 02:50:38 pm
 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:13:19 pm
OK, it's on again.  Philbin.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:24:36 pm
David Rutz
@DavidRutz
At a pre-trial GOP conference meeting at 11:30 a.m., McConnell tried to calm everyone down. According to senators in the room, McConnell offered one simple piece of advice: take a deep breath.

It seems to have worked.
Republicans take a deep breath after initial Bolton scare
Republican senators began Monday in a bad spot. They ended it feeling like they were in a better one, at least for now. What changed? A late-morning pep talk from Senate Majority Leader McConnell and...
cnn.com
10:27 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter Web App
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:25:17 pm
Mark Meadows
@RepMarkMeadows
This afternoon's side-by-side is all you need to know.

While Washington Democrats careen toward an unsuccessful impeachment attempt... the President is keeping his promise to strengthen our relationship with Israel and work for peace in the Middle East region.

You tell me.
10:50 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter Web App
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on January 28, 2020, 06:25:57 pm
I think McConnell is the most under-appreciated Majority Leader of the last half-century (at least) for Republicans.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:37:09 pm
Igor Bobic
@igorbobic
Romney just walked by Loeffler as they were both leaving a caucus lunch. They didn’t address each other.

I asked Loeffler about this tweet as she walked by reporters, following Romney, but she didn’t say anything.
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Senator Kelly Loeffler
@SenatorLoeffler
 Â· Jan 27
After 2 weeks, it’s clear that Democrats have no case for impeachment. Sadly, my colleague @SenatorRomney wants to appease the left by calling witnesses who will slander the @realDonaldTrump during their 15 minutes of fame. The circus is over. It’s time to move on! #gapol
11:05 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

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Romney is a McStain-level snake in the grass.

Sekulow is up....
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:38:21 pm
Chad Pergram
@ChadPergram
McConnell says Senate has “several hours” of trial session today with one quick break

Cipollone:
Our goal is to be done by dinner time and well before

Chief Justice Roberts says the defense has 15 hours 33 minutes remaining
11:08 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:39:40 pm
Rep. Mike Johnson
@RepMikeJohnson
Pat Philbin is emphasizing the critical point that "maladministration" was REJECTED as a basis for impeachment under our Constitution. Unlike in the British Parliament, our president does not "serve at the pleasure of the legislature" ...but rather THE PEOPLE themselves.
11:14 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter Web App
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: don-o on January 28, 2020, 06:43:25 pm
I was hoping (against hope) that FISA abuse be exposed. What's next? "What did Obama know and when did he know it?"
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:43:46 pm
Lee Zeldin
@RepLeeZeldin
At no point of the House impeachment inquiry did Schiff ever subpoena Bolton.

That was Schiff's play call to declare himself ready for trial when he clearly wasn't.

Now, he's complaining in the Senate about the many reasons why he can't prove his case.

That's on him.
7:16 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:45:06 pm
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Romney "made a strong pitch" for witnesses during a closed-door lunch of Senate Republicans.

Romney is now effectively working against party leaders and arguing that the proper way to test each side's contention is to hear from people directly involved.
Mitt makes his move
The occasional Trump critic is in the middle of an internal GOP fight over the impeachment trial.
politico.com
7:40 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 06:46:41 pm
Rep. Elise Stefanik
@RepStefanik
Last night, my segment with @RepMarkMeadows
, @RepDLesko
 & @RepDougCollins
 aired on @CBSEveningNews
. We spoke with @NorahODonnell
 about impeachment and the critical importance of listening to the FACTS. Adam Schiff and the Democrats have zero evidence of impeachable offenses.
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11:30 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: aligncare on January 28, 2020, 06:47:10 pm
I was hoping (against hope) that FISA abuse be exposed. What's next? "What did Obama know and when did he know it?"

I think of democrats... every time I see something scurry under the sink.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 07:28:50 pm
Joel B. Pollak
@joelpollak
Sekulow's argument is passionate here. He's telling the Senate that if they remove Trump in the middle of an election after his campaign was spied on by the government and smeared for "Russia collusion" (by the House managers) they will be part of something evil #ImpeachmentTrial
11:46 AM · Jan 28, 2020·TweetDeck
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 07:29:58 pm
Rep. Vicky Hartzler
@RepHartzler
We see yet again how the House Democrats' three-month-long impeachment sham brought the House to a screeching halt.

We're days away from the federal ban on #fentanyl expiring. The Senate unanimously passed an extension. The House hasn't acted. Total silence from Speaker Pelosi.
12:29 PM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter Web App
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 07:31:52 pm
Rep Andy Biggs
@RepAndyBiggsAZ
President @realDonaldTrump
 has been more supportive of Ukraine than the previous administration, giving them lethal military aid to defend themselves against Russia.

That's called a policy difference.

Obama wasn't impeached over his administration's "policy difference."
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12:27 PM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 07:32:59 pm
Rep Andy Biggs
@RepAndyBiggsAZ
By pursuing a partisan, vindictive impeachment -not based on direct evidence, but on hearsay & an insatiable desire to see the president removed from office - Democrats, as @JaySekulow
 highlights, are lowering the bar for impeachment.

The Senate must not allow this to continue.
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12:30 PM · Jan 28, 2020·TweetDeck
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 07:35:53 pm
Rep. Paul Gosar, DDS
@RepGosar
President @realDonaldTrump
’s legal team has been incredible. They have dismantled every single claim by Democrats in this partisan impeachment hoax.
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Gov. Mike Huckabee
@GovMikeHuckabee
 Â· 45m
For sure @JaySekulow is brilliant litigator and powerful communicator.  @realDonaldTrump well served by his legal team.  Schiff just seen weeping & wailing in hallway.
12:17 PM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

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Gosar is my Rep.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: libertybele on January 28, 2020, 07:37:04 pm
Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Romney "made a strong pitch" for witnesses during a closed-door lunch of Senate Republicans.

Romney is now effectively working against party leaders and arguing that the proper way to test each side's contention is to hear from people directly involved.
Mitt makes his move
The occasional Trump critic is in the middle of an internal GOP fight over the impeachment trial.
politico.com
7:40 AM · Jan 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Can't help but wonder what Romney hopes to gain?  If they tarnish Trump enough, would he be foolish enough to oppose him?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: EdinVA on January 28, 2020, 07:38:42 pm
Can't help but wonder what Romney hopes to gain?  If they tarnish Trump enough, would he be foolish enough to oppose him?
Getting his name in the press and looking like the hero to utah.... I suspect he would not be acting this way if his niece was not protecting him...
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 07:55:32 pm
OK, that's a wrap.  The Defense is totally finished so the "Questioning Period" begins tomorrow at 1:00 PM.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: EdinVA on January 28, 2020, 08:00:45 pm
So, if you were there, what question would you ask?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: bilo on January 28, 2020, 08:04:04 pm
Can't help but wonder what Romney hopes to gain?  If they tarnish Trump enough, would he be foolish enough to oppose him?

I think it is as simple as Trump embarrassed him in 2016 by pointing out what a two faced hypocrite he is. Romney doesn't care about the Pub party or anyone else. He is the perfect example of why I won't contribute to the party, but will contribute directly to candidates.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on January 28, 2020, 08:10:01 pm
Rep. Paul Gosar, DDS
@RepGosar
President @realDonaldTrump
Gov. Mike Huckabee
@GovMikeHuckabee
 Â· 45m
For sure @JaySekulow is brilliant litigator and powerful communicator.  @realDonaldTrump well served by his legal team.  Schiff just seen weeping & wailing in hallway.


That's absolutely brilliant trolling by Huckabee.  If Schiff were to object and say that's not true...then Huckabee can say "and now you know how the President felt when you lied about that phone call."
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: bilo on January 28, 2020, 08:10:31 pm
So, if you were there, what question would you ask?

Why didn't the House call witnesses they wanted to hear from?

Why didn't the House go to court and fight for their subpoena's?

Why didn't Schiff testify under oath to the Judiciary committee?

Why didn't the IG testify publicly and why wasn't his transcript released?

Why wasn't the leaker called to testify under oath?

Why weren't Trump's lawyers allowed to cross examine witnesses?

Why weren't the Pubs allowed to call all the witnesses they wanted?

Why have you supported this soviet style show trial?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Hoodat on January 28, 2020, 08:13:07 pm
OK, that's a wrap.  The Defense is totally finished so the "Questioning Period" begins tomorrow at 1:00 PM.

Who gets questioned?  The prosecutors?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Hoodat on January 28, 2020, 08:17:22 pm
Why wasn't  Ambassador Yovanovitch charged with perjury after she lied under oath to a House Committee, and why was her perjured testimony included in the rationale for impeaching the President?  And how much of the missing US AID money ended up in her bank account?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: libertybele on January 28, 2020, 08:23:43 pm
Why wasn't  Ambassador Yovanovitch charged with perjury after she lied under oath to a House Committee, and why was her perjured testimony included in the rationale for impeaching the President?  And how much of the missing US AID money ended up in her bank account?

Why?  Because they aren't interested in the truth; they are only interested in removing Trump -- and there are still those within the GOP that would like to see him gone.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: mystery-ak on January 28, 2020, 08:38:12 pm
David M. Drucker
@DavidMDrucker
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2m
Key question for Republicans: Nothing they could imagine hearing from any witness is, in their view, going to change the outcome of the impeachment trial. Do they want to extend tedious proceedings by weeks, possibly, for witness testimony that won't change a thing.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: mystery-ak on January 28, 2020, 08:44:32 pm
David Jolly
@DavidJollyFL
·
1m
GOP Senators are beginning to act as though they are genuinely concerned this could spin out of control for them, and for Trump.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: mystery-ak on January 28, 2020, 08:46:33 pm
Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
·
1h
Jay Sekulow seems unaware that he is now waiving whatever executive privilege might have shielded Bolton’s account of his interactions with Trump. And he’s strengthening the case for subpoenaing Bolton right away.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: austingirl on January 28, 2020, 09:13:20 pm
Laurence Tribe
@tribelaw
·
1h
Jay Sekulow seems unaware that he is now waiving whatever executive privilege might have shielded Bolton’s account of his interactions with Trump. And he’s strengthening the case for subpoenaing Bolton right away.

Nonsense.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: berdie on January 28, 2020, 09:41:13 pm
So, if you were there, what question would you ask?




What exactly do you know, how do you know and what is your true motivation for all of this?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: mystery-ak on January 28, 2020, 09:51:28 pm
Trump's team rests, calls for quick end to trial
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/480350-trumps-team-rests-calls-for-quick-end-to-trial
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: corbe on January 28, 2020, 10:00:17 pm
Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard - It's All Going to Pot (Digital Video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6c6eUeoa9Q# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6c6eUeoa9Q#)
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: EdinVA on January 28, 2020, 10:54:35 pm
If I am a dem, then I ask questions of the House Managers that require more testimony since that is what I want.Open ended, looking for obscure answers that may or may not have anything to do with the evidence/testimony already provided.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2020, 11:25:55 pm
So, McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to prevent witnesses.  BOHICA.

Will be called: Bolton and Mulvaney. 

Will not be called:  Ciamerella, Schiff or any Biteme.

Consolation prize:  More testimony from Jonathon Turley.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: bilo on January 29, 2020, 01:47:35 am
So, McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to prevent witnesses.  BOHICA.

Will be called: Bolton and Mulvaney. 

Will not be called:  Ciamerella, Schiff or any Biteme.

Consolation prize:  More testimony from Jonathon Turley.

End result lose the Senate majority. Trump gets re-elected and fights with a Rat controlled Congress for four years.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: aligncare on January 29, 2020, 04:26:10 pm
So, McConnell says he doesn't have the votes to prevent witnesses.  BOHICA.

Will be called: Bolton and Mulvaney. 

Will not be called:  Ciamerella, Schiff or any Biteme.

Consolation prize:  More testimony from Jonathon Turley.

Okay, let’s say McConnell doesn’t have the vote to prevent calling for witnesses. So, what does that mean?

Well, then each individual witness must be approved by a majority of the senate. Who has the majority? That’s right, the GOP. So, the result would likely be that no witness can get a majority.

And in the end, no witnesses testify and McConnell moves to a vote on the articles of impeachment, or possibly for dismissal.

Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 29, 2020, 04:40:21 pm
Okay, let’s say McConnell doesn’t have the vote to prevent calling for witnesses. So, what does that mean?

Well, then each individual witness must be approved by a majority of the senate. Who has the majority? That’s right, the GOP. So, the result would likely be that no witness can get a majority.

And in the end, no witnesses testify and McConnell moves to a vote on the articles of impeachment, or possibly for dismissal.

Rand Paul predicts no witnesses for Trump if the Senate votes on individual witnesses.  Enough turncoat RINOs exist to prevent either Biden or the fake "whistleblower" from being called.  All witnesses will be for the prosecution.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: corbe on January 29, 2020, 05:08:25 pm
Okay, let’s say McConnell doesn’t have the vote to prevent calling for witnesses. So, what does that mean?

Well, then each individual witness must be approved by a majority of the senate. Who has the majority? That’s right, the GOP. So, the result would likely be that no witness can get a majority.

And in the end, no witnesses testify and McConnell moves to a vote on the articles of impeachment, or possibly for dismissal.

    Murkowski, Collins and Romney does not leave Cocaine Mitch much room to play with and since CJ Roberts is presiding over the trial doesn't that disallow VP Pence as a tiebreaker?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Impeachment Trial Day 7
Post by: Hoodat on January 29, 2020, 06:23:53 pm
Rand Paul predicts no witnesses for Trump if the Senate votes on individual witnesses.  Enough turncoat RINOs exist to prevent either Biden or the fake "whistleblower" from being called.  All witnesses will be for the prosecution.

That's my take as well.  Which is why McConnell should have started this process the moment the House passed the impeachment articles and subpoenaed Ciaramella to testify.  The Dems weren't ready then, but they sure are ready now.