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Title: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms to B
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2019, 09:05:34 pm
Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms to Bring Him in
Breitbart, May 3, 2019, IAN HANCHETT

On Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “AC360,” House Judiciary Committee member Steve Cohen (D-TN) stated that if Attorney General William Barr doesn’t comply with the committee’s subpoenas, the committee has “no other alternative” but to use the sergeant at arms to bring Barr to the House.

Cohen said, “I hope it would be inherent contempt. Because in inherent contempt, we’d go out, take him, and bring him in, and have him personally brought to the House.”
 
Host Anderson Cooper asked, “You actually want to send out the sergeant at arms and force the attorney general to come?”
 
Cohen answered, “Yes. Because otherwise, it’s up to the Justice Department. The Justice Department is not going to do anything to take a contempt citation from us, and enforce it against their boss. So, you’ve got an impossible situation there, and it leaves us no other alternative except to use our sergeant at arms and to bring him in.”


Video at link:  https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/05/03/house-judiciary-dem-cohen-if-barr-doesnt-comply-with-subpoenas-no-other-alternative-but-using-sergeant-at-arms-to-bring-him-in/ (https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/05/03/house-judiciary-dem-cohen-if-barr-doesnt-comply-with-subpoenas-no-other-alternative-but-using-sergeant-at-arms-to-bring-him-in/)




Title: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms to B
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2019, 09:06:45 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/j5UfGrx.jpg)
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: Sanguine on May 04, 2019, 09:19:35 pm
I wonder if the Sergeant at Arms would even do that.  Is that legal?
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 04, 2019, 09:24:09 pm
With what jurisdiction?
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: skeeter on May 04, 2019, 09:32:51 pm
They really are determined to destroy this guy before he can blow open their little coup plot.
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: Elderberry on May 04, 2019, 09:41:25 pm
https://www.lawfareblog.com/congressional-subpoena-power-and-executive-privilege-coming-showdown-between-branches (https://www.lawfareblog.com/congressional-subpoena-power-and-executive-privilege-coming-showdown-between-branches)

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That leaves Congress’s inherent contempt power, which means relying on the legislature’s own constitutional authority to detain and jail a contemnor until the individual complies with congressional demands. What does that actually look like? It’s not very pretty—which is why the inherent contempt process has not been used by either body since 1935, when a Herbert Hoover administration official was held briefly in the Willard Hotel. While there is no “Capitol Jail,” the Capitol Police do maintain a holding cell a few blocks away at the Capitol Police Department. At the current moment, the prospect of the House sending the sergeant-at-arms of the Capitol to arrest an administration official would likely not sit well with a public that does not favor physical confrontation in U.S. politics.
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: EdJames on May 04, 2019, 10:11:43 pm
I'm wondering if these monsters are desperate enough to push this to that level....  even attempting to capture Barr and bring him to the Capitol will throw gasoline on the fire....
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: rustynail on May 04, 2019, 10:37:36 pm
Is the ' Sergeant at Arms' a lib?
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: sneakypete on May 04, 2019, 10:58:13 pm
I wonder if the Sergeant at Arms would even do that.  Is that legal?

@Sanguine

More importantly,would it be wise for the SAM to do that?

Ever heard of "Unintended Consequences"?
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: sneakypete on May 04, 2019, 11:02:05 pm
Is the ' Sergeant at Arms' a lib?

@rustynail

More importantly,is he willing to become a public figure with a bullseye on his back?

I can see how this could easily get out of hand,and it there is a slim possibility (slim,due to a lack of balls in DC) it would maybe even be the shot that started the 2nd American Revolution.

If we are not willing to stop the leftist enemies in Congress over this insane grab for the power to intimidate,what WOULD it take?
Title: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms to Bring Him in
Post by: mrclose on May 04, 2019, 11:12:29 pm
These @$$holes have gone "Off the rails!"(http://i48.tinypic.com/icjlo7.jpg)


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On Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “AC360,” House Judiciary Committee
member Steve Cohen (D-TN) stated that if Attorney General William Barr
doesn’t comply with the committee’s subpoenas, the committee has “no
other alternative” but to use the sergeant at arms to bring Barr to the
House.

Cohen said, “I hope it would be inherent contempt.
Because in inherent contempt, we’d go out, take him, and bring him in, and have
 him personally brought to the House.”

Host Anderson Cooper asked, “You actually want to send out the sergeant at arms and force the attorney general to come?”
Cohen answered, “Yes. Because otherwise, it’s up to the Justice Department. The Justice Department is not going to do anything to take a contempt citation from us, and enforce it against their boss.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/05/03/house-judiciary-dem-cohen-if-barr-doesnt-comply-with-subpoenas-no-other-alternative-but-using-sergeant-at-arms-to-bring-him-in/ (https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/05/03/house-judiciary-dem-cohen-if-barr-doesnt-comply-with-subpoenas-no-other-alternative-but-using-sergeant-at-arms-to-bring-him-in/)



Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms to Bring Him in
Post by: Fishrrman on May 05, 2019, 01:00:30 am
The House sergeant at arms vs. a phalanx of armed FBI agents.

Ought to be an interesting test of power...
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: Mod5 on May 05, 2019, 01:15:32 am
Topics merged.
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms to Bring Him in
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 05, 2019, 01:59:51 am
These @$$holes have gone "Off the rails!"(http://i48.tinypic.com/icjlo7.jpg)

Eric Holder did not respond to a request for comment.
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: truth_seeker on May 05, 2019, 02:44:38 am
I wonder if the Sergeant at Arms would even do that.  Is that legal?
Before the Death of Journalism, a reporter would cite precedents, if any.


Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: 240B on May 05, 2019, 03:27:58 am
I hope he does call the Cops on Barr.
It would be hilarious, and it would accomplish nothing more than Kabuki Theater.
Barr should go with him, laughing the whole time.
Eric Holder is the precedent. He was convicted of 'Contempt of Congress', and absolutely nothing came of it.
It was a ghost conviction. It was vapor. It was a 'nothing' charge.
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: Wingnut on May 05, 2019, 12:27:38 pm
Cohen's next meal...
(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58961531_671694599951020_7381005751780638720_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=319a38117168cfc32e4e49b030f2343c&oe=5D334D85)
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: kidd on May 06, 2019, 02:38:40 pm
The Congressman who signs the order to have Barr taken into custody would almost certainly face prison time for obstruction of justice
Title: Re: Cohen: If Barr Doesn’t Comply with Subpoenas, ‘No Other Alternative’ But Using Sergeant at Arms
Post by: Wingnut on May 06, 2019, 02:51:10 pm
They have truly lost their minds.