The Briefing Room
General Category => Science, Technology and Knowledge => Topic started by: ChemEngrMBA on June 23, 2023, 09:09:58 pm
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There seems to be no greater panic for millions of Left-leaning Americans than screaming louder and louder about *climate change.*
The change has been recorded since 1880 at ~1.1 degrees Celsius, which is 1.98 degrees Fahrenheit.
Put that in perspective. The AVERAGE range of highest and lowest seasonal temperatures recorded in each state is 149.74 degrees F. (Hawaii, lowest at 88 degrees, Montana highest at 187 degrees. www.stacker.com)
So are we all supposed to go crazy over half a degree change in our remaining lifetimes? The answer is a rational, scientific, common sense: HELL NO! SHUT UP Cultists!
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I've seen a range from -35F to 108F here in Iowa just in the last 25 years, not to mention historical records.
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Want to shut up an enviro-whacko?
Ask him how the Vikings were able to colonize Greenland a 1000 years, ago where now it is too cold.
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What does that link have to do with your post?
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Montana highest at 187 degrees.
WOO! That's right! Number ONE!! *struts* *touchdown dance* *high five*
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What does that link have to do with your post?
That was the source of high and low record temperatures, by state.
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That was the source of high and low record temperatures, by state.
Thanks. But the link doesn't lead to a specific article.. Like this:
https://stacker.com/news/average-temperature-change-every-state-last-100-years
I found more comprehensible data here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_territory_temperature_extremes
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WOO! That's right! Number ONE!! *struts* *touchdown dance* *high five*
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Was the thermometer located on the edge of the tarmac at the local airport? Asking for a friend.
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Was the thermometer located on the edge of the tarmac at the local airport? Asking for a friend.
LOL! It's kinda bullcrap, @Bigun ... The low was taken from the top of the continental divide (-70 @ Roger's Pass), and the high somewhere out on the eastern plains (112 @ Billings)... Two very different environments.
... And yeah... the one in Billings sure might have been on the tarmac or concrete-surrounded city center. Dunno.
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LOL! It's kinda bullcrap, @Bigun ... The low was taken from the top of the continental divide (-70 @ Roger's Pass), and the high somewhere out on the eastern plains (112 @ Billings)... Two very different environments.
... And yeah... the one in Billings sure might have been on the tarmac or concrete-surrounded city center. Dunno.
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I crossed the divide a few weeks ago but considerably South of Roger's pass.
And BTW: putting thermometers in odd places is just one of the tricks these climate "scientists" use to collect their data.
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LOL! It's kinda bullcrap, @Bigun ... The low was taken from the top of the continental divide (-70 @ Roger's Pass), and the high somewhere out on the eastern plains (112 @ Billings)... Two very different environments.
... And yeah... the one in Billings sure might have been on the tarmac or concrete-surrounded city center. Dunno.
:beer:
Yeah, heat island effect on lows and highs might be a factor. I saw -60 F in Alamo, ND, (actually just north of there, and not counting the wind chill from the 40 MPH wind) back in 1984. The hottest I have worked in was in Pine Valley NV, at 122 F (in the shade). Range: 181 degrees F, more than the difference between freezing and boiling water.
That's part of why I get tired of all the whinging about half a degree Celsius...
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I live in Texas in the winter. It can be 85F one day and 15F the next. The temperature variance there is greater than anywhere I else I know of.
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I live in Texas in the winter. It can be 85F one day and 15F the next. The temperature variance there is greater than anywhere I else I know of.
We get some pretty extreme shifts up this way, too:
The largest recorded temperature change in one place over a 24-hour period occurred on January 15, 1972 in Loma, Montana, when the temperature rose from −54 to 49 °F (−47.8 to 9.4 °C) . The most dramatic temperature changes occur in North American climates susceptible to Chinook winds.
and in South Dakota:
Spearfish holds the world record for the fastest recorded temperature change. On January 22, 1943, at about 7:30 a.m. MST, the temperature in Spearfish was −4 °F (−20 °C). The Chinook wind picked up speed rapidly, and two minutes later (7:32 a.m.) the temperature was +45 °F (7 °C).
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Yeah, heat island effect on lows and highs might be a factor. I saw -60 F in Alamo, ND, (actually just north of there, and not counting the wind chill from the 40 MPH wind) back in 1984. The hottest I have worked in was in Pine Valley NV, at 122 F (in the shade). Range: 181 degrees F, more than the difference between freezing and boiling water.
That's part of why I get tired of all the whinging about half a degree Celsius...
Yeah... I've been in -40 or 50 - Oddly enough, that was on your side of the hump, though I dare say I have seen it that hard up in the sticks where i had no thermometer. And I think I have been above the 110s down in Kansas and Missouri a time or two... Though it makes no difference above 100 - my fat butt is in a river somewhere.
But mostly we stay in the -20s to low 100s here in the valley... Though -30s are not unheard of.
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Very few people died as a result of these extremes, high or low, of temperature. Wherever you live, you prepare for the weather, at your home and when you go outside. So half a degree is a joke, like all the nonsense these Cultists prattle in a panic.
What is not a joke is the trillions of dollars which have been spent, for nothing. Much, much more to follow, also for nothing.
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Very few people died as a result of these extremes, high or low, of temperature. Wherever you live, you prepare for the weather, at your home and when you go outside. So half a degree is a joke, like all the nonsense these Cultists prattle in a panic.
What is not a joke is the trillions of dollars which have been spent, for nothing. Much, much more to follow, also for nothing.
:yowsa: pointing-up
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Very few people died as a result of these extremes, high or low, of temperature. Wherever you live, you prepare for the weather, at your home and when you go outside. So half a degree is a joke, like all the nonsense these Cultists prattle in a panic.
What is not a joke is the trillions of dollars which have been spent, for nothing. Much, much more to follow, also for nothing.
I know, or rather knew, two people who froze to death. Others have lost fingers or toes. I don't know anyone heat killed outright, but the cold here is nothing to mess with.
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WRITTEN BY WILL JONES ON JAN 22, 2020. POSTED IN LATEST NEWS
Why The Current Interglacial Might Be Coming To An End
https://climatechangedispatch.com/is-current-interglacial-ending/
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The data is overwhelming. The history is indisputable. The lies have all been captured.
A study in the journal Nature Climate Change reviewed 117 climate predictions and found that 97.4% never materialized.
Biologist Paul Ehrlich predicted in the 1970s that: “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” and that “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
In January 2006 Al Gore predicted that we had ten years left before the planet turned into a “total frying pan.” We made it.
In 2008, a segment aired on ABC News predicted that NYC would be under water by June 2015.
In 1970, ecologist Kenneth E.F. Wattpredicted that “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but 11 degrees colder by the year 2000, This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age.”
In 2008, Al Gore predicted that there is a 75% chance that the entire north polar ice cap would be completely melted within 5-7 years. He at least hedged that prediction by giving himself “75%” certainty. By 2014 - the polar ice cap had expanded over 60% (more than 900,000 sq miles)
On May 13th 2014 France’s foreign minister said that we only have 500 days to stop “climate chaos.” The recent Paris climate summit met 565 days after his remark.
In 2009, National Aeronautics and Space Administration Goddard Space Flight Center head James Wassen warned that Obama only had four years left to save the earth.
On the first Earth Day its sponsor warned that “in 25 years, somewhere between 75% and 80% of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
And another Earth Day prediction from Kenneth Watt: “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
Top 10 Climate Change Predictions Gone Spectacularly Wrong; This Is EPIC!
(Links did not transfer, sorry)
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Is this your missing link? (Just trying to help out) It doesn't add new information. It just gives attribution to the source.
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/top-10-climate-change-predictions-gone-spectacularly-wrong
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Is this your missing link? (Just trying to help out) It doesn't add new information. It just gives attribution to the source.
https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/top-10-climate-change-predictions-gone-spectacularly-wrong
People get overanxious about attribution. What is important to me is the information, not so much the source.
What does one do with the "source"? It's trivial.
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People get overanxious about attribution. What is important to me is the information, not so much the source.
What does one do with the "source"? It's trivial.
The entire universe is made of information. I give credit to the source.
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I don't see any mention of "peak oil" (repeatedly) either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IIKE9p5SEw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IIKE9p5SEw)
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People get overanxious about attribution. What is important to me is the information, not so much the source.
What does one do with the "source"? It's trivial.
Disagree, in today's News world, people will recycle stories like they just happened. I want sources.
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Disagree, in today's News world, people will recycle stories like they just happened. I want sources.
You are encouraged to look them up for yourself if they are that important to you. They are not to me.
Keep in mind that you probably not have read this if I had not posted it, with or without the source.
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Occasionally gets to 105+ F (real temp; not Heat Index temp) and -10 F (real temp; not Wind Chill temp) in Eastern Mass.
I'm allegedly in USDA Zone 6, but I perfer plants hardy to at least USDA Zone 4, because there is nothing average about weather.
All you need is one unusually bad cold snap (Polar Vortex; Montreal Express) in Winter to kill of plant and animal life that is not native to the area.
A few Winters ago, a bad cold snap took care of our Asian Long-Horned Beetle infestation.
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All of our roses were winter killed. All of our neighbors roses did too. It is bit strange since we had more snow and the coldest it got was -15 +/-. We have had winters with less snow and double the negative temp and the roses came through.
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All of our roses were winter killed. All of our neighbors roses did too. It is bit strange since we had more snow and the coldest it got was -15 +/-. We have had winters with less snow and double the negative temp and the roses came through.
I like pink wild rose... And it likes it here... I intend to plant them under all my windows. Because the roof can shed ice on em and they don't care.
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I love wild, ramblin' roses as well @roamer_1 . I have a good stand of them, but they only bloom every 3/4 years.
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I love wild, ramblin' roses as well @roamer_1 . I have a good stand of them, but they only bloom every 3/4 years.
The pink are my favorite flower and a signature of mine when I was a landscaper, @berdie .
That, and honeysuckle, which is a bush up in here... Not a vine... very hardy, grows about 6 feet high and around. beautiful, delicate pink or yellow flowers mid spring. Again, I like the pink - Although there is a hybrid purple one I have seen... If I ever see that again, I'll own it.
Purple Lilacs...
Outside of that, the many and varied versions of spirea: Bridal wreath, snowball, froebeli, little princess, gumball, and lime... And on and on...
You might have guessed - I'm a bush guy. happy77
I like wildflowers most, bleeding hearts, especially the frilly ones... day lillies in big beds... Snapdragons, columbine, daffodils, iris (especially the frilly ones), and any kind of rock garden flower. Moss and tiny flowers chocked between rock seams makes for a beautiful wall...
And tulips (especially the frilly ones)... in strict rows... Because I am Dutch and it's the law. :police:
I have a great love of a well planted yard. :beer:
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The pink are my favorite flower and a signature of mine when I was a landscaper, @berdie .
That, and honeysuckle, which is a bush up in here... Not a vine... very hardy, grows about 6 feet high and around. beautiful, delicate pink or yellow flowers mid spring. Again, I like the pink - Although there is a hybrid purple one I have seen... If I ever see that again, I'll own it.
Purple Lilacs...
Outside of that, the many and varied versions of spirea: Bridal wreath, snowball, froebeli, little princess, gumball, and lime... And on and on...
You might have guessed - I'm a bush guy. happy77
I like wildflowers most, bleeding hearts, especially the frilly ones... day lillies in big beds... Snapdragons, columbine, daffodils, iris (especially the frilly ones), and any kind of rock garden flower. Moss and tiny flowers chocked between rock seams makes for a beautiful wall...
And tulips (especially the frilly ones)... in strict rows... Because I am Dutch and it's the law. :police:
I have a great love of a well planted yard. :beer:
I'll bet your yard is lovely, @roamer_1 . :laugh: It seems to me it would have a water color effect. At one time, I planted a lot of perennials and used to plant annuals every year. My yard was really pretty. But between water restrictions and not being able to care for things...about the only things that bloom are the perennials. I miss it as I do working in the yard. Heck, I only plant a small, early spring veggie garden these days.
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I'll bet your yard is lovely, @roamer_1 . :laugh: It seems to me it would have a water color effect. At one time, I planted a lot of perennials and used to plant annuals every year. My yard was really pretty. But between water restrictions and not being able to care for things...about the only things that bloom are the perennials. I miss it as I do working in the yard. Heck, I only plant a small, early spring veggie garden these days.
*SIGH* Nope, @berdie ... not a single flower or bush is on this property. I had a little bed of marigolds by the front door, but the deer took em... Over all, nothing.
The problem is that the place ain't done. After the cabin was remodeled, and I recovered from that a bit, the next phase was going to be the porches - Imagine a redneck boy without a porch. :crying:
Anyhow, I needed the front porch put on before I invested in trees and bushes in the front yard, and a new septic system is slated for the front yard, and that particular problem is the same for the back porch, being necessarily added on before I could set the fire pit, and all the stuff for the back - to include the truck garden, because the back porch was to contain the outdoor kitchen, where the garden would be processed... So it all just went to lawn as a holding method.
Now I can't even keep up with that.
But that is fixin to change... I think I am letting go of the holler property, which is where my efforts were going. So in the next nearly two years, as I heal up from this go-around medically, I am going to set a brick patio out in the footprint where the front porch is going to go to preserve the space, and then I can work on the plantings that go around that... Which is a pretty big set of beds, actually.
Providing that I recover some, I'll need the work anyway... And between here and the ranch (fencing galore), and normal stuff like fetching hay and grain, I'll have plenty to trim the old carcass up with...
One way or the other, this summer is going to pass me by, and hunting season is in question... Prolly just road hunting, if that... And then all winter in PT... so next spring is likely when I can start it all moving. :shrug:
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*SIGH* Nope, @berdie ... not a single flower or bush is on this property. I had a little bed of marigolds by the front door, but the deer took em... Over all, nothing.
The problem is that the place ain't done. After the cabin was remodeled, and I recovered from that a bit, the next phase was going to be the porches - Imagine a redneck boy without a porch. :crying:
Anyhow, I needed the front porch put on before I invested in trees and bushes in the front yard, and a new septic system is slated for the front yard, and that particular problem is the same for the back porch, being necessarily added on before I could set the fire pit, and all the stuff for the back - to include the truck garden, because the back porch was to contain the outdoor kitchen, where the garden would be processed... So it all just went to lawn as a holding method.
Now I can't even keep up with that.
But that is fixin to change... I think I am letting go of the holler property, which is where my efforts were going. So in the next nearly two years, as I heal up from this go-around medically, I am going to set a brick patio out in the footprint where the front porch is going to go to preserve the space, and then I can work on the plantings that go around that... Which is a pretty big set of beds, actually.
Providing that I recover some, I'll need the work anyway... And between here and the ranch (fencing galore), and normal stuff like fetching hay and grain, I'll have plenty to trim the old carcass up with...
One way or the other, this summer is going to pass me by, and hunting season is in question... Prolly just road hunting, if that... And then all winter in PT... so next spring is likely when I can start it all moving. :shrug:
@roamer_1 If anyone can get that all done and overcome the current problems...you can. :beer:
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Back to the THREAD subject........
149.74 degrees average range of all 50 states, and the Climate Change Cult is ballistic over half a degree every forty years?
And they want Americans to throw $50 trillion dollars at "fixing" this non-problem? The homeless veterans will just have to wait.