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General Category => Science, Technology and Knowledge => Topic started by: Skeptic on December 26, 2018, 04:19:35 am

Title: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Skeptic on December 26, 2018, 04:19:35 am
I started using Loctite superglue pretty much ever since they started selling it. Now Loctite has created some new adhesives and sealers beyond the original superglue gel. Top quality. I think that Loctite may take over the adhesives market eventually and knock Gorilla Glue and that other superglue with the man spreading his legs right off the shelf. Loctite is an Irish company with a firm quality standard. I really like this sealer foam they recently started selling, works really good.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Sanguine on December 26, 2018, 04:06:38 pm
I've been using the Gorilla Wood Glue.  It seems to work very well.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Frank Cannon on December 26, 2018, 04:12:11 pm
All garbage. There is only one quality family of adhesives on the market today......

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Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Wingnut on December 26, 2018, 04:15:28 pm
All garbage. There is only one quality family of adhesives on the market today......

(https://media.giphy.com/media/JGunlb6LbQlz2/giphy.gif)

That guy is putting the Little Dutch Boy out of work plugging dykes.. 
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: bigheadfred on December 26, 2018, 04:17:34 pm
I started using Loctite superglue pretty much ever since they started selling it. Now Loctite has created some new adhesives and sealers beyond the original superglue gel. Top quality. I think that Loctite may take over the adhesives market eventually and knock Gorilla Glue and that other superglue with the man spreading his legs right off the shelf. Loctite is an Irish company with a firm quality standard. I really like this sealer foam they recently started selling, works really good.

How long have you been working for them now?

Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: bigheadfred on December 26, 2018, 04:21:46 pm
That guy is putting the Little Dutch Boy out of work plugging dykes..

Rachel Maddow is leaving MSNBC?
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Fishrrman on December 27, 2018, 01:42:49 am
Ambassador Frank:
I apologize for my ignorance.
Could you explain a little more what the video in post 2 is showing us?
(i.e., product name?)
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: corbe on December 27, 2018, 01:58:26 am
This is Frank's favorite adhesive.

(http://www.magicbluepill.com/gifts/blue_soap_dispenser.jpg)
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: bigheadfred on December 27, 2018, 02:14:54 am
Ambassador Frank:
I apologize for my ignorance.
Could you explain a little more what the video in post 2 is showing us?
(i.e., product name?)

Flex Tape.

I've tried it. A temporary fix under pressure.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Elderberry on December 27, 2018, 02:15:16 am
I use epoxy more than all the other adhesives.

This my goto place for epoxy:http://www.epoxyproducts.com/ (http://www.epoxyproducts.com/)
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: bigheadfred on December 27, 2018, 02:57:15 am
I use epoxy more than all the other adhesives.

This my goto place for epoxy:http://www.epoxyproducts.com/ (http://www.epoxyproducts.com/)

I use what I think would work the best for what I am doing. Titebond II or III for wood. Roo-glue (Roo Clear) for cabinets. They used to have a roll-on for laminating--countertops, but now most use spray-on contact adhesive. That stuff has a very short wait time. Lick and stick. We get that at work in 20# tanks. And smaller rattle cans. 2P-10 is a superglue-two part. Not worth the price, IMO.

Pretty sure I gave the Loctite® PL® 550 Tub Surround Adhesive for the cheap shower surround in my front bathroom. It worked well.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Elderberry on December 27, 2018, 03:15:34 am
I use epoxies mostly for laminating, fairing and painting. When my youngest was into baseball, I even used epoxy to laminate carbon fiber/kevlar biaxial sleeves onto his baseball bat handles. They were some unbreakable wood bats. I once picked him up a guaranteed not to break bamboo bat. It broke at the batting cage after 5 swings. They replaced it, but wouldn't guarantee the replacement.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: bigheadfred on December 27, 2018, 03:25:03 am
I use epoxies mostly for laminating, fairing and painting. When my youngest was into baseball, I even used epoxy to laminate carbon fiber/kevlar biaxial sleeves onto his baseball bat handles. They were some unbreakable wood bats. I once picked him up a guaranteed not to break bamboo bat. It broke at the batting cage after 5 swings. They replaced it, but wouldn't guarantee the replacement.

We have and use epoxies at work. That is a closely guarded secret known by very few.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Elderberry on December 27, 2018, 03:44:04 am
Back to Loctite. I once used Loctite #620 to reline an old single shot 16ga to 45LC.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: RoosGirl on December 27, 2018, 03:57:21 am
That sealer foam doesn't get great reviews at Amazon.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Frank Cannon on December 27, 2018, 05:06:31 am
Ambassador Frank:
I apologize for my ignorance.
Could you explain a little more what the video in post 2 is showing us?
(i.e., product name?)

@Fishrrman that invention is a marvel of modern science. Flex Seal and it's fine family of products is the glue holding the country together!!!

(https://cdn.neweasy.com/pimg/6DCE3BBE55724F3F90D938844D532C2B.jpg)
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: roamer_1 on December 27, 2018, 05:27:35 am
I use epoxy more than all the other adhesives.

This my goto place for epoxy:http://www.epoxyproducts.com/ (http://www.epoxyproducts.com/)

Jabe, baby! JB Weld. I have literally repaired stripped out aluminum threads by over-boring, wallering out the bottom, packing with JB Weld, and coming back the next day to bore and rethread the original hole position. Not as quick as a helicoil, but it will last way longer.

I don't do it that way any longer, since I now can weld aluminum, or will fashion a threaded plug from steel (with the correct hole pre-bored and threaded into the steel) and loctite/stake it in, but I still have fixes out there that were made with JB Weld more than a decade ago...
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: roamer_1 on December 27, 2018, 05:33:07 am
@Fishrrman that invention is a marvel of modern science. Flex Seal and it's fine family of products is the glue holding the country together!!!

Bed-liner in a can... Big deal.  :whistle:

 :tongue2:
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Elderberry on December 27, 2018, 12:46:54 pm
About 25 yrs ago, both me and the wife were both down with the flu for about a week in the middle of winter. Well the engine blocks busted in both my truck and jeep. Both had SB Chevy engines. I found the cracks. Welded most of it with nickel rod. I then pulled a vacuum on the water passages and put JB weld all over the cracked area. Sealed up Good! I have since sold the truck, when they started up emissions testing. I wasn't about to put all that emissions crap back on the truck. I sold it to someone who was taking it to Mexico. I still have that engine in my 53 Willys Jeep. No water leaks at all.

JB Weld(epoxy) works good. 

I now have all sorts of thickeners for epoxy resin. Aluminum, graphite, micro balloons, fumed silica, wood flour, chopped glass fibers, you name it, I may have it. That way I can take basic epoxy resin and modify it to my needs.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Elderberry on December 27, 2018, 01:17:42 pm
       Flex Seal MSDS  http://www.mcoe.us/view/1668.pdf (http://www.mcoe.us/view/1668.pdf)

         Composition

Petroeum Asphalt      30.0  -  60.0  %
Crumb Rubber            5.0  –  10.0  %
Petroleum Distillates   0.0  –   3.0  %
Hydrogen Sulfide        0.1  –   1.0  %
Proprietary                4.18 – 21.25 %
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: roamer_1 on December 27, 2018, 03:34:54 pm
       Flex Seal MSDS  http://www.mcoe.us/view/1668.pdf (http://www.mcoe.us/view/1668.pdf)

         Composition

Petroeum Asphalt      30.0  -  60.0  %
Crumb Rubber            5.0  –  10.0  %
Petroleum Distillates   0.0  –   3.0  %
Hydrogen Sulfide        0.1  –   1.0  %
Proprietary                4.18 – 21.25 %

Yeah... bed liner. put that crap on with a roller and then you've got something.... Foundation tar.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: roamer_1 on December 27, 2018, 03:38:04 pm
JB Weld(epoxy) works good. 

Best stuff since duct tape.
 :beer:
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on December 27, 2018, 03:47:20 pm
All glue sucks, basically. It only works if it's some non-stress point, like an aesthetic feature.

A good structural repair involves drilling, mending plates, bolts, wingnuts, washers, hose clamp, soldering (a proper solder joint), or welding of some kind.

Glue will inevitably fail, I basically never use it. One caveat, liquid nails seems to work good for construction type repairs.

Better than glue:

(https://images.stockfreeimages.com/432/sfixl/4326637.jpg)
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Elderberry on December 27, 2018, 04:06:08 pm
I have built a boat with no fasteners in the hull using the "Stitch and Glue" technique.

https://www.clcboats.com/default/stitch-and-glue-boat-building.html (https://www.clcboats.com/default/stitch-and-glue-boat-building.html)
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Wingnut on December 27, 2018, 06:46:16 pm


Better than glue:

(https://images.stockfreeimages.com/432/sfixl/4326637.jpg)

Well lookie there. WTF found Wingnut.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Oceander on December 27, 2018, 07:27:07 pm
All glue sucks, basically. It only works if it's some non-stress point, like an aesthetic feature.

A good structural repair involves drilling, mending plates, bolts, wingnuts, washers, hose clamp, soldering (a proper solder joint), or welding of some kind.

Glue will inevitably fail, I basically never use it. One caveat, liquid nails seems to work good for construction type repairs.

Better than glue:

(https://images.stockfreeimages.com/432/sfixl/4326637.jpg)

Even on wood?
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: corbe on December 27, 2018, 08:05:26 pm
 :bigsilly:
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on December 27, 2018, 08:41:57 pm
Even on wood?

Wood glue is fine for aesthetics, but for a structural repair, only screws, bolts, etc. will do.

I don't trust glue.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Oceander on December 27, 2018, 09:00:25 pm
Wood glue is fine for aesthetics, but for a structural repair, only screws, bolts, etc. will do.

I don't trust glue.

Not true.  It depends on how the joint will be loaded. In most cases, it is the wood, not the glue, that fails. 
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Elderberry on December 27, 2018, 09:00:41 pm
Glues have come a long ways from horse hide, fish, milk, and flour glues.

Many glues now are stronger than the objects they are joining.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: Elderberry on December 27, 2018, 09:04:46 pm
If you can't trust glue, you can't trust plywood, glulam beams, composite aircraft, and many other things in common use today.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: bigheadfred on December 27, 2018, 09:20:14 pm
If you can't trust glue, you can't trust plywood, glulam beams, composite aircraft, and many other things in common use today.

Right. They use "duct" tape on aircraft all the time. I think it is referred to as speed tape. But tape all the same.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: roamer_1 on December 27, 2018, 09:45:49 pm
Glues have come a long ways from horse hide, fish, milk, and flour glues.

Many glues now are stronger than the objects they are joining.

Even Titebond or Elmer's... A wood joint properly clamped is stronger than the wood is. pin nailing is just to keep it till the glue dries.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: corbe on December 27, 2018, 09:48:31 pm
  My 'X' sniffed a lot of Glue, she swears by its therapeutic properties.

(https://images1.phoenixnewtimes.com/imager/u/original/6646865/mugs_2014_16.jpg)


  Me, I like to huff gasoline, premium, when I'm not aggravating the Trumpers here.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: bigheadfred on December 27, 2018, 09:50:15 pm
  My 'X' sniffed a lot of Glue, she swears by its therapeutic properties.

(https://images1.phoenixnewtimes.com/imager/u/original/6646865/mugs_2014_16.jpg)


  Me, I like to huff gasoline, premium, when I'm not aggravating the Trumpers here.

You a natural blonde?

Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: corbe on December 27, 2018, 09:56:15 pm
               NO, I think my Hair Stylist is also 'sniffing Glue'.

(https://www.viewalongtheway.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/bad-toupee2.jpg)
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: corbe on December 27, 2018, 10:01:20 pm
   Isn't it great that @Skeptic don't give a $hit that we temporarily hijack his/her Thread.
   Believe me I looked, there are no (safe) meme's regarding Trump/Melanie and glue/adhesives.
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: andy58-in-nh on December 27, 2018, 10:30:07 pm
  My 'X' sniffed a lot of Glue, she swears by its therapeutic properties.

(https://images1.phoenixnewtimes.com/imager/u/original/6646865/mugs_2014_16.jpg)


  Me, I like to huff gasoline, premium, when I'm not aggravating the Trumpers here.
Did she marry this guy?
(https://biffsockpow.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/lloyd-bridges-airplane-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Loctite adhesives
Post by: bigheadfred on December 27, 2018, 10:51:48 pm
   Isn't it great that @Skeptic don't give a $hit that we temporarily hijack his/her Thread.
   Believe me I looked, there are no (safe) meme's regarding Trump/Melanie and glue/adhesives.

There is so much glue just in this one picture it damn near resinates with them all--Loctite, Titebond, Contact, Guerilla...

(https://i.imgur.com/BnH3r58.jpg)