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Title: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: edpc on July 20, 2018, 08:22:45 pm
Kristin Davis, the Manhattan Madam who went to prison and was connected to former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, is being subpoenaed in the Robert Mueller investigation ... TMZ has learned.

Davis worked for former Trump aide Roger Stone for a decade, and had numerous interactions with Stone and Andrew Miller -- who ran Davis' campaign for Governor and who was subpoenaed by Mueller a month ago.

http://m.tmz.com/?viewer_country=US# (http://m.tmz.com/?viewer_country=US#)!article/2018/07/20/manhattan-madam-kristin-davis-subpoenaed-robert-mueller-trump/
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 20, 2018, 09:44:51 pm
We got 'im now!
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Wingnut on July 20, 2018, 09:47:18 pm
We got 'im now!

Stormy is gonna be pissed.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 20, 2018, 09:50:00 pm
So, what's the new strategy here?

Is Mueller trying to say that Trump is Bill Clinton?

Could be, since they met on the golf course before he announced he was running, no one has seen them in the same room together.

(Que the X-files music)
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: skeeter on July 20, 2018, 09:55:59 pm
So, what's the new strategy here?

Is Mueller trying to say that Trump is Bill Clinton?

Could be, since they met on the golf course before he announced he was running, no one has seen them in the same room together.

(Que the X-files music)
Mueller is trying to provide the news media with grist for their garbage products to last through the midterms.

If the Rats get the House back then we can kiss any inquiries into intelligence agency malfeasance leading up to the 2016 elections goodbye.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 20, 2018, 10:00:16 pm
Mueller is trying to provide the news media with grist for their garbage products to last through the midterms.

If the Rats get the House back then we can kiss any inquiries into intelligence agency malfeasance leading up to the 2016 elections goodbye.

Of course, my post was in jest, but what you say is absolutely true.
Throw in that if they stall the SCOTUS vote long enough, they'll do anything they can to swing this election.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Wingnut on July 20, 2018, 10:01:58 pm
Of course, my post was in jest, but what you say is absolutely true.
Throw in that if they stall the SCOTUS vote long enough, they'll do anything they can to swing this election.

You would have to be the press or a blind man to not see this is what is happening.  On second thought, even the blind dude could see it.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: skeeter on July 20, 2018, 10:09:44 pm
Of course, my post was in jest, but what you say is absolutely true.
Throw in that if they stall the SCOTUS vote long enough, they'll do anything they can to swing this election.

I'll never cease being supremely p*ssed off at the way the system has been rigged against us.

I wish the GOP, at least those not in league with the rats, would launch a campaign to educate the marginally engaged on whats really going on.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Concerned on July 21, 2018, 02:50:21 am
I'll never cease being supremely p*ssed off at the way the system has been rigged against us.

I wish the GOP, at least those not in league with the rats, would launch a campaign to educate the marginally engaged on whats really going on.

Just wait until Trump is sworn in and can put “only the best people” in key positions of the government.  Just wait until he is allowed to name is own Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, FBI Director, NSA Director, CIA Director, Director of National Security, etc. etc. etc.  Once that happens, I’m sure Trump and his supporters will stop playing the victim card since he’s responsible for the government (as he noted this week).   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: corbe on July 21, 2018, 05:15:43 pm
   I'm still waiting for this check to clear.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TAOo39cngdw/V8cw9agnWGI/AAAAAAABAO4/4RGl61KAXiUgYFi9aYJv1Nj10DSGAS0fgCLcB/s1600/blank_check.jpg)
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Frank Cannon on July 21, 2018, 05:28:45 pm
Charlotte from Sex in the City is running a whore house? Why didn't they cover this in the series?

(http://www3.pictures.gi.stylebistro.com/Kristin+Davis+Heels+Peep+Toe+Pumps+EylyAwkYBgKl.jpg)
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: skeeter on July 21, 2018, 05:31:53 pm
Just wait until Trump is sworn in and can put “only the best people” in key positions of the government.  Just wait until he is allowed to name is own Attorney General, Deputy Attorney General, FBI Director, NSA Director, CIA Director, Director of National Security, etc. etc. etc.  Once that happens, I’m sure Trump and his supporters will stop playing the victim card since he’s responsible for the government (as he noted this week).   *****rollingeyes*****

Feel better?
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 21, 2018, 05:49:20 pm
   I'm still waiting for this check to clear.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TAOo39cngdw/V8cw9agnWGI/AAAAAAABAO4/4RGl61KAXiUgYFi9aYJv1Nj10DSGAS0fgCLcB/s1600/blank_check.jpg)

They're all writing checks with their mouths they can't cash....
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: darroll on July 21, 2018, 06:08:01 pm
MS Davis could be a Russian.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Concerned on July 21, 2018, 06:15:57 pm
Feel better?

No, I don’t.  I’m a firm believer in leadership responsibility and accountability:  that is, leaders taking ownership for their organization not ones who play the victim card.  I recently read a leadership book, “Extreme Ownership” written by two Navy SEALS.  They opened the book with this observation:

Quote
“Of the many exceptional leaders we served alongside throughout our military careers, the consistent attribute that made them great was that they took absolute ownership—Extreme Ownership—not just of those things for which they were responsible, but for everything that impacted their mission. These leaders cast no blame. They made no excuses. Instead of complaining about challenges or setbacks, they developed solutions and solved problems. They leveraged assets, relationships, and resources to get the job done. Their own egos took a back seat to the mission and their troops. These leaders truly led.”

President Trump is responsible and accountable for the Federal Government.  His team is in place at Justice, the FBI, the CIA, and the State Department.   If it’s “rigged” against him, he should take “extreme ownership” and fix it because he’s responsible and accountable for it.  He’s the leader (or he’s supposed to be). 
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Wingnut on July 21, 2018, 06:16:02 pm
They're all writing checks with their mouths they can't cash....

(https://i2.wp.com/swaggyimages.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Pictures-Of-Tom-Cruise-In-Top-Gun.jpg?fit=590%2C350&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200)
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: XenaLee on July 21, 2018, 06:29:46 pm
No, I don’t.  I’m a firm believer in leadership responsibility and accountability:  that is, leaders taking ownership for their organization not ones who play the victim card.  I recently read a leadership book, “Extreme Ownership” written by two Navy SEALS.  They opened the book with this observation:

President Trump is responsible and accountable for the Federal Government.  His team is in place at Justice, the FBI, the CIA, and the State Department.   If it’s “rigged” against him, he should take “extreme ownership” and fix it because he’s responsible and accountable for it.  He’s the leader (or he’s supposed to be).

Yes.... but.... unlike what some fools would claim.... this is not a dictatorship.  Meaning... the only power he has other than getting something passed via Congress.... is Executive Orders.  Half (or more) of "his team" at the alphabet agencies are rabidly anti-Trump.  If he fires them all, he loses.  If he keeps them on, he loses.  He literally is in a lose-lose scenario... much like what it always turns out to be for a non-leftist or Republican president.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 21, 2018, 06:34:18 pm
(https://purposeinleadership.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/olivier-carrc3a9-delisle_leadership-vs-management.jpg)
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Concerned on July 21, 2018, 07:10:16 pm
Yes.... but.... unlike what some fools would claim.... this is not a dictatorship.  Meaning... the only power he has other than getting something passed via Congress.... is Executive Orders.  Half (or more) of "his team" at the alphabet agencies are rabidly anti-Trump.  If he fires them all, he loses.  If he keeps them on, he loses.  He literally is in a lose-lose scenario... much like what it always turns out to be for a non-leftist or Republican president.

So much for hiring "only the best people".   *****rollingeyes*****  If he's appointed a bunch of people who are indeed "rabidly anti-Trump" shame on him, but if he really did, I think he'd be much better off, providing Congress with the evidence of his own people's "rabid" bias against him, and then reappointing people actually on his team (if he's capable of assessing whether they'd really be on his team or not).  It does him no good to have people on "his team" who are "anti-Trump".
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 21, 2018, 07:14:51 pm
The thing that bugs me about this "only the best people" meme is it provides an excuse to hang every peccadillo by an underling on the boss.  It makes my eyes roll, to coin a phrase.

So what if Trump said that?  He's a politician since the escalator ride, so I take every word he says with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: edpc on July 21, 2018, 07:23:41 pm
"Everybody wants to work in the White House," Trump said alongside Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven during a news conference at the White House on Tuesday afternoon.

"They all want a piece of that Oval Office. They want a piece of the West Wing. And not only in terms of, it looks great on their resume — it's just a great place to work."


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/06/trump-says-everybody-wants-to-work-at-the-white-house.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/06/trump-says-everybody-wants-to-work-at-the-white-house.html)


Everyone wants to work at the White House and before Trump is through, everyone probably will.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: skeeter on July 21, 2018, 08:53:03 pm
The thing that bugs me about this "only the best people" meme is it provides an excuse to hang every peccadillo by an underling on the boss.  It makes my eyes roll, to coin a phrase.

So what if Trump said that?  He's a politician since the escalator ride, so I take every word he says with a grain of salt.

It was a silly throw-away line thats become a tiresome trope. If I were one of the consistent Trump critics here on TBR I'd feel unclever if I used it.

Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: corbe on July 21, 2018, 09:17:04 pm
It was a silly throw-away line thats become a tiresome trope. If I were one of the consistent Trump critics here on TBR I'd feel unclever if I used it.



    True Dat @skeeter I quit using it 6 months ago, I now use 'Stable Genius'.

Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: DB on July 21, 2018, 09:17:25 pm
Yes.... but.... unlike what some fools would claim.... this is not a dictatorship.  Meaning... the only power he has other than getting something passed via Congress.... is Executive Orders.  Half (or more) of "his team" at the alphabet agencies are rabidly anti-Trump.  If he fires them all, he loses.  If he keeps them on, he loses.  He literally is in a lose-lose scenario... much like what it always turns out to be for a non-leftist or Republican president.

He has the power to direct the DOJ to investigate and prosecute (if the evidence supports it). No one can stop him from doing that. Actually investigating the Clinton foundation would leave a massive crater in the D.C. establishment like never seen before.

Yet it is silent on that front.

What else is there to say then?
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: corbe on July 21, 2018, 09:24:47 pm
   Theoretically, as soon as Trump went from 'Lock her up' to 'She's suffered enough' in the first 2 hours of his Presidency, he sealed his inevitable fate, IMHO.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: edpc on July 21, 2018, 09:26:42 pm
True Dat @skeeter I quit using it 6 months ago, I now use 'Stable Genius'.


When that gets old, you can use 'your favorite president.'


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Inconceivable that the government would break into a lawyer’s office (early in the morning) - almost unheard of. Even more inconceivable that a lawyer would tape a client - totally unheard of & perhaps illegal. The good news is that your favorite President did nothing wrong.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: skeeter on July 21, 2018, 09:28:42 pm
    True Dat @skeeter I quit using it 6 months ago, I now use 'Stable Genius'.

Well you are a creative soul.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Concerned on July 22, 2018, 01:46:07 am
The thing that bugs me about this "only the best people" meme is it provides an excuse to hang every peccadillo by an underling on the boss.  It makes my eyes roll, to coin a phrase.

So what if Trump said that?  He's a politician since the escalator ride, so I take every word he says with a grain of salt.

I think that leaders set expectations and true leaders hold themselves (and expect to be held accountable) for those expectations.  Trump set the expectation of "only hiring the best people".  If it was just a lie, then he should walk it back IMO. 
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Concerned on July 22, 2018, 01:50:34 am
   Theoretically, as soon as Trump went from 'Lock her up' to 'She's suffered enough' in the first 2 hours of his Presidency, he sealed his inevitable fate, IMHO.

But I guess if you simply take what Trump says with a "grain of salt", you simply ignore things like "lock her up", "repeal and replace", Mexico will pay for the wall, China will be named a currency manipulator, I'll propose a term limit Constitutional Amendment with the first 100 days, etc. etc. etc. Campaign promises are only to be celebrated if they're achieved.  Apparently they're to be ignored when the candidate doesn't honor them (at least if the candidate is "their guy").  "She's suffered enough" was yet another unforced error IMO.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Sanguine on July 22, 2018, 01:55:32 am
(https://purposeinleadership.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/olivier-carrc3a9-delisle_leadership-vs-management.jpg)

Nice graphic.  I'm saving that.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 22, 2018, 02:07:29 am
I think that leaders set expectations and true leaders hold themselves (and expect to be held accountable) for those expectations.  Trump set the expectation of "only hiring the best people".  If it was just a lie, then he should walk it back IMO.

He has a way of saying things in a manner that anybody can read whatever they want to into it, so they can bash him, or love him.  I just happen to be tired of this meme.  Feel free to use and abuse it.

I don't believe much of what he ways, I just know he doesn't spell his name H. I. L. L. A. R. Y.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Concerned on July 22, 2018, 02:18:36 am
He has a way of saying things in a manner that anybody can read whatever they want to into it, so they can bash him, or love him.  I just happen to be tired of this meme.  Feel free to use and abuse it.

I don't believe much of what he ways, I just know he doesn't spell his name H. I. L. L. A. R. Y.

I agree that he says things in such a way that folks can hear what they want to hear.  I've found that that is what con men typically do.  As someone who tries to be basicly an honest person myself, I hold others to that same standard (of being honest).  I just won't accept that the new normal is that we should just accept that we don't need to believe what the President of the United States says (on a day to day basis).  I understand the argument that he's not Hillary, and I approve of much of his policy (e.g., deregulation, ISIS, judges, etc.), but that doesn't mean I'll just ignore his lies/falsehoods/untruths.  Most importantly, I just can't understand how any basicly honest person can come to just accept that the President of the United States can't be believed; however, I do recognize that with his approval ratings with Republicans being in the 80's that I'm in the minority (and that makes me quite sad for our country). 
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 22, 2018, 02:23:15 am
I agree that he says things in such a way that folks can hear what they want to hear.  I've found that that is what con men typically do.  As someone who tries to be basicly an honest person myself, I hold others to that same standard (of being honest).  I just won't accept that the new normal is that we should just accept that we don't need to believe what the President of the United States says (on a day to day basis).  I understand the argument that he's not Hillary, and I approve of much of his policy (e.g., deregulation, ISIS, judges, etc.), but that doesn't mean I'll just ignore his lies/falsehoods/untruths.  Most importantly, I just can't understand how any basicly honest person can come to just accept that the President of the United States can't be believed; however, I do recognize that with his approval ratings with Republicans being in the 80's that I'm in the minority (and that makes me quite sad for our country).

To me, it means the intellectual depth of the country is at a record shallow. :shrug:
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Concerned on July 22, 2018, 02:25:43 am
To me, it means the intellectual depth of the country is at a record shallow. :shrug:

I agree and that indeed makes me quite sad.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Suppressed on July 23, 2018, 05:14:38 pm
Yes.... but.... unlike what some fools would claim.... this is not a dictatorship.  Meaning... the only power he has other than getting something passed via Congress.... is Executive Orders.  Half (or more) of "his team" at the alphabet agencies are rabidly anti-Trump.  If he fires them all, he loses.  If he keeps them on, he loses.  He literally is in a lose-lose scenario... much like what it always turns out to be for a non-leftist or Republican president.

Early on, he sabotaged getting things through Congress.  Do you think that was a strategy so nobody could blame him, or was it mere incompetence?
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: roamer_1 on July 23, 2018, 07:27:24 pm
Early on, he sabotaged getting things through Congress.  Do you think that was a strategy so nobody could blame him, or was it mere incompetence?

That is an interesting question.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 23, 2018, 08:26:44 pm
That is an interesting question.

I'd go with incompetence.  I think this politics stuff is a lot harder than the easy he expected.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: roamer_1 on July 23, 2018, 08:31:32 pm
I'd go with incompetence.  I think this politics stuff is a lot harder than the easy he expected.

I dunno... Watch him work. He always has someone to blame. Behind all the kabuki theater, Congress is the bag-holder so that he can fail to complete his promises without fault...

There has to be a reason behind pissing off absolutely everyone he would need to pass legislation.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: edpc on July 23, 2018, 08:35:04 pm
Early on, he sabotaged getting things through Congress.  Do you think that was a strategy so nobody could blame him, or was it mere incompetence?


He was just going through some changes.


"He has evolved in the way he's looked at things," Kelly said, adding, "Campaign to governing are two different things, and this President has been very, very flexible in terms of what is within the realm of the possible."
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Suppressed on August 06, 2018, 08:20:08 pm
'Manhattan Madam' Kristin Davis set to testify before Mueller grand jury this week
Last week an investigator on Mueller’s team questioned Kristin Davis, an associate of former Trump adviser Roger Stone, about Russian collusion.
by Anna Schecter / Aug.06.2018 / 12:03 PM ET

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/manhattan-madam-kristin-davis-testify-mueller-grand-jury-week-n897951 (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/manhattan-madam-kristin-davis-testify-mueller-grand-jury-week-n897951)
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Wingnut on August 06, 2018, 08:35:23 pm
(https://media.nbcnewyork.com/images/578*434/KRISTINDAVISINTVNYNN_1635106_640x480.jpg)

Wow, only 41.   Road very hard and put up wet too many time. 

She'll make a credible witness too.
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: darroll on August 06, 2018, 11:08:33 pm
<chuckle>
Is this the new girl from Russia that rigged the election?
Title: Re: Manhattan Madam Kristin Davis Subpoenaed By Robert Mueller
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 06, 2018, 11:47:25 pm
Wow, only 41.   Road very hard and put up wet too many time. 

She'll make a credible witness too.

Couple years in prison can change a gal.