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Title: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: mystery-ak on February 18, 2019, 02:01:22 am
Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
by Daniel Chaitin
 | February 17, 2019 04:13 PM



U.S. District Judge John Bates, who once led the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, defended the Justice Department and embattled intelligence community for how it handled the application process to obtain warrants to spy on onetime Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

Bates, who was placed on the FISA court by Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and was its presiding judge from 2009 to 2013, said he has seen no evidence lending credibility to Republican concerns that officials misled the court in obtaining a 2016 FISA warrant and three renewals.

"I will note and note with some force that I have seen nothing that indicates that the court was misled, that the Department of Justice or the intelligence community made misrepresentations to the court," Bates told Lawfare podcast co-hosts David Kris and Nates Jones, the founders of the Culper Partners consulting firm. "And not only have I seen nothing that would indicate that, I have heard nothing that persuasively makes that case."

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Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Bigun on February 18, 2019, 02:10:06 am
Looks like Judge Bates is now in full CYA mode.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Free Vulcan on February 18, 2019, 02:17:00 am
Looks like Judge Bates is now in full CYA mode.

And Baghdad Bob looks on with pride.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: DCPatriot on February 18, 2019, 02:23:55 am
Looks like Judge Bates is now in full CYA mode.

I want the SOBs dragged to GITMO and waterboarded until they tell the truth about everything they know.

From Hillary Clinton on down to Bruce Ohr's wife...and everybody in between.

Does that make me a "brownshirt"?     /S   :laugh:
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: truth_seeker on February 18, 2019, 02:27:39 am
Looks like Judge Bates is now in full CYA mode.

That pretty well describes the entire category of "career government employees," globally in time, and in the case of the Trump attempted soft ongoing Coup.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 18, 2019, 04:29:05 am
I want the SOBs dragged to GITMO and waterboarded until they tell the truth about everything they know.

From Hillary Clinton on down to Bruce Ohr's wife...and everybody in between.

Does that make me a "brownshirt"?     /S   :laugh:

No, it makes you as pissed as I am.  He reminds me of a guy who got raped in prison...and liked it.  "Thank you sir, may I have another?"    Mister Bates just said more to prove the existence of a swamp than almost all who came before.

 9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: dfwgator on February 18, 2019, 04:36:34 am
Deep State gonna Deep State.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Sanguine on February 18, 2019, 02:41:06 pm
I wondered when we would hear from the court that so clearly mishandled this.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Hoodat on February 18, 2019, 02:55:54 pm
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Bates, who was placed on the FISA court by Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts and was its presiding judge from 2009 to 2013, said he has seen no evidence lending credibility to Republican concerns that officials misled the court in obtaining a 2016 FISA warrant and three renewals.

"I will note and note with some force that I have seen nothing that indicates that the court was misled, that the Department of Justice or the intelligence community made misrepresentations to the court," Bates told Lawfare podcast co-hosts David Kris and Nates Jones, the founders of the Culper Partners consulting firm. "And not only have I seen nothing that would indicate that, I have heard nothing that persuasively makes that case."


There, fixed it.  This poser has just as much access to the relevant FIS Court documents as do I.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 18, 2019, 03:10:39 pm
I wondered when we would hear from the court that so clearly mishandled this.

Doesn't exactly make us confident, does it?  Typical bureaucratic BS:  "There's no evidence I did anything wrong!"
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: kidd on February 18, 2019, 03:22:06 pm
Master Bates is ignoring the circular reference where the fake dossier was leaked to the media and then that same media was used as evidence to bolster the faked dossier.
He also ignores the fact that the first attempt to approve the surveillance was denied, which is very rare.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 18, 2019, 03:57:39 pm
Master Bates is ignoring the circular reference where the fake dossier was leaked to the media and then that same media was used as evidence to bolster the faked dossier.
He also ignores the fact that the first attempt to approve the surveillance was denied, which is very rare.

As @Bigun noted upthread, this is full CYA mode.  Bureaucrats!  (Spit!)
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Sanguine on February 18, 2019, 04:05:48 pm
Master Bates is ignoring the circular reference where the fake dossier was leaked to the media and then that same media was used as evidence to bolster the faked dossier.
He also ignores the fact that the first attempt to approve the surveillance was denied, which is very rare.

Oh, he's not ignoring it; he's trying to cover it up as deeply as he can.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 18, 2019, 04:15:14 pm
Oh, he's not ignoring it; he's trying to cover it up as deeply as he can.

I looked at all the quotes from Bates in the article.  He sounds like John Brennan.
Title: Re: Ex-FISA court chief defends DOJ, FBI for handling of Carter Page surveillance applications
Post by: Sanguine on February 18, 2019, 04:16:37 pm
I looked at all the quotes from Bates in the article.  He sounds like John Brennan.

Which is an interesting observation.  I wonder if he consulted Brennan.