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Title: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: mystery-ak on July 25, 2021, 10:17:13 pm
Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally


Gabrielle Temaat
Contributor
July 25, 2021 12:37 PM ET


Arizona Republican state Sen. Michelle Ugenti-Rita was booed off stage Saturday at the Turning Point Action rally in Phoenix.

The state senator was greeted with loud boos as she walked on stage and began her speech. After asking the audience to listen to her multiple times, she gave up and ended her speech early. Before walking off stage she announced that she would be running for secretary of state and claimed that she was “going to win the primary”, according to Mediaite.

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Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: skeeter on July 25, 2021, 10:38:24 pm
Worse, this senator had a Gateway Pundit reporter handcuffed for asking her questions offstage. We don't need these kinds of despots representing us.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on July 26, 2021, 03:07:59 am
Don't know anything about her.

If she is a RINO, then good riddance.

If we are honest though.....the far right can quickly turn on people who don't tow the far right line.  Deviation is not allowed. 

I hope that isn't the case here.

She obviously didn't realize just how strongly people feel about her actions.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 26, 2021, 03:40:18 am
When you have people hauled off in irons for asking questions, you don't belong anywhere near the seats of power.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 26, 2021, 03:50:08 am
Don't know anything about her.

If she is a RINO, then good riddance.

If we are honest though.....the far right can quickly turn on people who don't tow the far right line. Deviation is not allowed. 

I hope that isn't the case here.

She obviously didn't realize just how strongly people feel about her actions.

You're kidding, right? There ain't enough 'far right' Republicans in office to matter. OBVIOUSLY far right principles aren't a criteria in the Republican party. That's just laughable.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Free Vulcan on July 26, 2021, 05:13:19 am
Given all her antics of that day, she needs to file as a Dem.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on July 27, 2021, 12:34:21 am
You're kidding, right? There ain't enough 'far right' Republicans in office to matter. OBVIOUSLY far right principles aren't a criteria in the Republican party. That's just laughable.

Maybe there was clue as to why in my post.

And no, I wasn't kidding.

Just like your response.

Calling someone's point of view laughable based on your own two sentence argument really isn't very open minded.

Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: libertybele on July 27, 2021, 12:39:28 am
You're kidding, right? There ain't enough 'far right' Republicans in office to matter. OBVIOUSLY far right principles aren't a criteria in the Republican party. That's just laughable.

Therein lies a HUGE problem and also there aren't enough 'far right' Republicans running to fill the seats of RINO's!
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 27, 2021, 02:56:55 am
Calling someone's point of view laughable based on your own two sentence argument really isn't very open minded.

And that's a bad thing?
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 27, 2021, 03:00:29 am
Therein lies a HUGE problem and also there aren't enough 'far right' Republicans running to fill the seats of RINO's!

In fact, that is THE problem.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 27, 2021, 03:30:57 am
In fact, that is THE problem.
The problem is that the GOP has been muddling toward the middle the whole time the Dems have dragged the middle to the Left.

How is that evident?

They call ordinary Constitutional Conservatives "Far Right".

Nope. Just Right.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 27, 2021, 04:07:41 am
The problem is that the GOP has been muddling toward the middle the whole time the Dems have dragged the middle to the Left.

How is that evident?

They call ordinary Constitutional Conservatives "Far Right".

Nope. Just Right.

That's pretty right - Though I don't believe the 'muddling' part. The right has been intentionally dragged  toward the middle... Hegelian Dialectic style...

There is intent, and that intent is toward class and station. Liberty is at odds with government, and always will be.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on July 28, 2021, 04:20:21 am
And that's a bad thing?

[Facepalm]
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on July 28, 2021, 04:21:38 am
In fact, that is THE problem.

I suspect that if they are not there running, there is another problem.

By the time election day comes around, it's tooooooo late.

We need to understand "the problem" and get it fixed......NOW
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on July 28, 2021, 04:23:04 am
That's pretty right - Though I don't believe the 'muddling' part. The right has been intentionally dragged  toward the middle... Hegelian Dialectic style...

There is intent, and that intent is toward class and station. Liberty is at odds with government, and always will be.

It's not like the conservative movement is a monolith. 

And by their very nature, they don't seem to work well together.

We need stronger leaders.

We also need to be, at the very least, a little less combative.

Indies don't seem to enjoy confrontation and to win, you need them (many are libertarians who fit right in anyway).
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 28, 2021, 04:30:27 am
[Facepalm]

As a rule, Conservatism is not open-minded. Conservatism, and thereby Conservatives tend to be governed by well defined principles, long known to be true, and approach all things according to merit... That suggests little room for minds so open their brains fall out. Open mindedness is more of a liberal trait.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 28, 2021, 04:32:44 am
I suspect that if they are not there running, there is another problem.

By the time election day comes around, it's tooooooo late.

We need to understand "the problem" and get it fixed......NOW

The moderate wing, the wing in power since forever, actively destroys conservative candidates with everything they have. Start there.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 28, 2021, 04:39:50 am
It's not like the conservative movement is a monolith. 

And by their very nature, they don't seem to work well together.

YES, in fact, they are a monolith, and DO work together well... There's just a butt-ton of folks that think they are conservative that aren't. And a butt-ton of Republicans that will vote for any R for fear of Ds... And then whine when their house is full of RINOs.

Quote
We need stronger leaders.

We also need to be, at the very least, a little less combative.

Indies don't seem to enjoy confrontation and to win, you need them (many are libertarians who fit right in anyway).

It ain't Conservatives that are un-confrontational -  Especially against liberals.

But then many think confrontation is no more than boorish twitter posts by a sophomoric idiot.

'Oh yeah your momma..." is not confrontation.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 28, 2021, 05:03:08 am
We need stronger leaders.

We also need to be, at the very least, a little less combative.

Indies don't seem to enjoy confrontation and to win, you need them (many are libertarians who fit right in anyway).

Read that wrong the first time around... So I came back to fix it some.'

The ONLY thing that we have in common is Principled Conservatism. That is what Conservatism IS, as it touches politics. Where I will be eternally combative is over those principles, and the necessity to adhere to the originating  coalition in Goldwater/Reagan. That is what we are, and that is what brought us together.

That all y'all are content with massive government spending (BY REPUBLICANS) and disastrous assaults upon libertarianism (BY REPUBLICANS) and vote for MORE is where we parted ways.

Raise the Conservative standard - Defend Goldwater/Reagan and I will hear the clarion call, and come arunning. I will fight for that till I die.

But not the silly sh*t y'all do now. I'd be better off putting my futures in the Constitution Party... And that's pretty well what I do... And the canary in the coalmine there - Most CP types are very fond of libertarianism. THAT is where libertarians fit right in.

More and more I have come to the determination that if y'all cannot defend basic Goldwater Conservatism, the most basic sense of political Conservatism, then I will not participate. No sense in fighting for what I don't want.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 28, 2021, 08:10:20 pm
The moderate wing, the wing in power since forever, actively destroys conservative candidates with everything they have. Start there.
Exactly!

Anyone to the right of that wad is branded an "extremist" or a "radical" (just for standing for Original Intent) and ostracized.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 28, 2021, 08:13:50 pm
YES, in fact, they are a monolith, and DO work together well... There's just a butt-ton of folks that think they are conservative that aren't. And a butt-ton of Republicans that will vote for any R for fear of Ds... And then whine when their house is full of RINOs.

It ain't Conservatives that are un-confrontational -  Especially against liberals.

But then many think confrontation is no more than boorish twitter posts by a sophomoric idiot.

'Oh yeah your momma..." is not confrontation.
Well, it's a lot like being "Country" (which I was long before it was "cool").

It takes more than a hat and a pair of boots and some fancy jingle from the ads in the slick pages of some (New York published) magazine on Country living to even get close, but down home folks know that. The only people the dimestore crowd fool are themselves.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 28, 2021, 09:03:28 pm
Exactly!

Anyone to the right of that wad is branded an "extremist" or a "radical" (just for standing for Original Intent) and ostracized.

Right - But more than merely ostracized... Actively destroyed. Look what they did to Roy Moore. And he ain't the first. Colluding with Democrats to take him right out.

Then people wonder why Conservatives can't win.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 28, 2021, 09:13:44 pm
Well, it's a lot like being "Country" (which I was long before it was "cool").

It takes more than a hat and a pair of boots and some fancy jingle from the ads in the slick pages of some (New York published) magazine on Country living to even get close, but down home folks know that. The only people the dimestore crowd fool are themselves.

That's right. You and I might disagree now and then, but it is always more a matter of increment or degree. I have never come anywhere near close to questioning your Conservative credz. And there is a hard-core handful here... Some more bent to fiscal, some more bent to libertarian, some more inclined toward military or social concerns... But ALL of them agree across the board with regard to factional principles, speaking for all intensive porpoises with one mind, with differences mainly being a matter of emphasis.

Too bad the rank and file are not likewise.  :shrug:

Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 28, 2021, 10:03:39 pm
The moderate wing, the wing in power since forever, actively destroys conservative candidates with everything they have. Start there.

Agreed. RINOs are like the crabs in a barrel.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 28, 2021, 10:59:40 pm
Agreed. RINOs are like the crabs in a barrel.

So what then? In my mind, until Republicans finally start  standing for what they believe in, and throwing those bastards out by the lot, there is no sense in supporting them. There is, and has been no profit in it.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: PeteS in CA on July 29, 2021, 04:33:46 pm
The moderate wing, the wing in power since forever, actively destroys conservative candidates with everything they have. Start there.

Since at least Pete Wilson's goobernorship that's been the story of the R Party in CA. Mo-o-o-o-o-o-oderates will fight conservatives harder than they will fight Dems, and when a conservative is a candidate for office they will refuse to support him or her in any way.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: skeeter on July 29, 2021, 04:49:45 pm
True.

And we'll never even begin to turn things around until we recognize that 99% politicians have become nothing but toads of the state, the bureaucracy is the real shot caller and the true enemy of freedom loving people.

And begin to use our votes with that in mind.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: roamer_1 on July 29, 2021, 04:51:52 pm
Since at least Pete Wilson's goobernorship that's been the story of the R Party in CA. Mo-o-o-o-o-o-oderates will fight conservatives harder than they will fight Dems, and when a conservative is a candidate for office they will refuse to support him or her in any way.

That's right - I remember when I didn't even have to look at a Republican from California... They were ALL Conservative. Not no more. Them moderate sonsabiches got to go.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on August 01, 2021, 12:47:43 am
Since at least Pete Wilson's goobernorship that's been the story of the R Party in CA. Mo-o-o-o-o-o-oderates will fight conservatives harder than they will fight Dems, and when a conservative is a candidate for office they will refuse to support him or her in any way.

This was the case in Johnson County Kansas.

Cosnervatives and democrats didn't like each other.

Conservatives and RINO's hated each other. 

Whenever a RINO lost, they would re-register as a democrat.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 01, 2021, 01:49:53 am
Back to the Topic...I just had a hilarious thought!  This RINO Michelle Ugenti-Rita is supposed to be at the County Republican Annual Picnic next Saturday!  Maybe even make a speech if she's not afraid of being booed off the stand again.

If she actually shows, this could be fun!  This is in my County, and she'd better be ready to face the Vice Chairman of same.

 000hehehehe

Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on August 02, 2021, 02:59:20 am

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Back to the Topic...I just had a hilarious thought!  This RINO Michelle Ugenti-Rita is supposed to be at the County Republican Annual Picnic next Saturday!  Maybe even make a speech if she's not afraid of being booed off the stand again.

If she actually shows, this could be fun!  This is in my County, and she'd better be ready to face the Vice Chairman of same.

 000hehehehe



From what I recall, your county is about as RED as it gets.

Correct ?

If so, she'd better bring earplugs.

 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 02, 2021, 03:35:04 am

From what I recall, your county is about as RED as it gets.

Correct ?

If so, she'd better bring earplugs.

 :2popcorn:

Correct, it's a very red County.  She has sponsored a table,and pols that do that don't always show up.  I was surprised when I was going over the list from my Chairman with the names and table locations.

Pretty sure she got the table before getting the business at the Turning Point/Trump rally in Phoenix.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on August 03, 2021, 01:18:14 am
Correct, it's a very red County.  She has sponsored a table,and pols that do that don't always show up.  I was surprised when I was going over the list from my Chairman with the names and table locations.

Pretty sure she got the table before getting the business at the Turning Point/Trump rally in Phoenix.

A RINO turkey shoot !!!!
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: LegalAmerican on August 03, 2021, 03:43:45 am
The problem is that the GOP has been muddling toward the middle the whole time the Dems have dragged the middle to the Left.

How is that evident?

They call ordinary Constitutional Conservatives "Far Right".

Nope. Just Right.

I agree.  Anyone who follows or believes in the constitution is a "Far-right".   FOUNDING FATHERS would be considered that, TODAY,  and we know they were CLASSIC LIBERALS. 
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on August 06, 2021, 06:13:10 pm
I agree.  Anyone who follows or believes in the constitution is a "Far-right".   FOUNDING FATHERS would be considered that, TODAY,  and we know they were CLASSIC LIBERALS. 

The GOP is a mess.

But I don't agree that people who believe in the constitution are called far right.

It's the whackjobs on both sides that are extremists and tend to get the most attention (from the other side trying to paint the entire group as the same).
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 06, 2021, 06:24:47 pm
The GOP is a mess.

But I don't agree that people who believe in the constitution are called far right.


You don't actually listen when the Commiecrats when they call us that, do you?  They've been calling all people who believe in the words in the Constitution "Right Wing Wackos" for many years now.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 06, 2021, 09:52:43 pm
You don't actually listen when the Commiecrats when they call us that, do you?  They've been calling all people who believe in the words in the Constitution "Right Wing Wackos" for many years now.
I believe in Original Intent, which, in their vernacular, makes me an "Extremist".

Subtle things like the RKBA really should be uninfringed (not just a little bit), and exists in the Bill of Rights to stop the Government from preventing the citizenry having the means to defend itself against the Government itself, if necessary. There is no other way to cognizantly resolve the statement from the Declaration of Independence
Quote
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
You aren't going to defeat tyranny by singing Kumbayah in the public park; it just will not yield so gently.

My labor is exchanged for pieces of paper, that paper exchanged for either goods or someone else's labor.
That's an exchange, not income, quid pro quo.

If I put that money in a bank and they pay me interest to use it, that is income (I didn't have to exchange any of my time, labor, or skills for it).  Of course, inflation, controlled by the central bank (also not Constitutional, really, and thus a nongovernmental entity in order to fend such complaints off), will consume the difference between interest
and principal.

So the exchange of my labor or skill for currency (it isn't money, Constitutionally, and in reality its just a promissory note from a banking cartel that used to state in full: This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private, and is redeemable in lawful money at the United States Treasury or any Federal Reserve Bank, as recently as the 1950 series bills) should not be taxed as "income", nor should exchanges made by barter, which are value for value exchanges with no net increase in value between those conducting the transaction.

Geez, what a radical I am.

I could go on, and I severely doubt that my beliefs will be codified any time soon. I do not expect the tens of thousands of rules, regulations, and laws infringing my RKBA will be nullified, nor will the 16th Amendment be repealed--nor its power usurping 17th Amendment that made State Governments lose their effective representation in Congress, turning the Senate into another House of Representatives.

We'll be lucky to hold the ground we have for the next couple of decades, and have to inform the youngsters out there, in spite of their Marxist indoctrination in the schools and media, just what principles the Country was founded on, no matter the flaws in the expression of that at the time (yep, slavery is that critical flaw).  The whole seemingly cliche bit about the children being the future is the literal truth.
As they turn out, the country will go. The more we can get to embrace liberty and eschew Marxism and totalitarianism, the better our Nation's chances.
Title: Re: Crowd Boos Arizona Sen. Ugenti-Rita Off Stage Ahead Of Trump’s Speech At Turning Point Rally
Post by: HikerGuy83 on August 17, 2021, 08:12:45 pm
You don't actually listen when the Commiecrats when they call us that, do you?  They've been calling all people who believe in the words in the Constitution "Right Wing Wackos" for many years now.

I hear what they say.

Just like I listen to a dog bark.

And the dog often sounds more intelligent.