The Briefing Room
General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: austingirl on January 19, 2018, 04:37:41 pm
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Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Scott Perry appeared on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight†Thursday and claimed that he has been “made aware†of “credible information regarding potential terrorist infiltration through the southern border†on the Las Vegas massacre.
However, Rep. Perry offered no evidence to back up this claim.
Perry said, “Recently I have been made aware of what I believe to be credible evidence, credible information regarding potential terrorist infiltration through the southern border regarding this incident.â€
http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/18/perry-potential-terrorist-las-vegas/ (http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/18/perry-potential-terrorist-las-vegas/)
Will we ever know the truth?. The Vegas police say that charges are pending. Who is being charged?
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Hasn't the security guard disappeared?? Rumor is he's back in Mexico. :shrug:
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Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Scott Perry appeared on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight†Thursday and claimed that he has been “made aware†of “credible information regarding potential terrorist infiltration through the southern border†on the Las Vegas massacre.
However, Rep. Perry offered no evidence to back up this claim.
Perry said, “Recently I have been made aware of what I believe to be credible evidence, credible information regarding potential terrorist infiltration through the southern border regarding this incident.â€
Will we ever know the truth?. The Vegas police say that charges are pending. Who is being charged?
Does that mean there are more shooters? They may be trying to charge his girlfriend but since she was out of the country that will be a hard sell. They'd have to prove she did more than help load the magazines.
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Does that mean there are more shooters? They may be trying to charge his girlfriend but since she was out of the country that will be a hard sell. They'd have to prove she did more than help load the magazines.
@driftdiver
Other shooters? Locked door? Lack of updates? Girlfriend taking down FB page before announcement of shooter's name? This story vexes me. We deserve some answers. Tucker is one of the few that is reporting on the story.
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@driftdiver
Other shooters? Locked door? Lack of updates? Girlfriend taking down FB page before announcement of shooter's name? This story vexes me. We deserve some answers. Tucker is one of the few that is reporting on the story.
Laura Ingram is too.
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Laura Ingram is too.
Thanks, @Millee
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The terrorist angle makes more sense to me than what the 'officials' have claimed.
It smelled like absolute bullshit they were feeding us within hours of the 'event'.
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Las Vegas Sun
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@LasVegasSun
Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo will hold a news conference at 10 a.m. Friday to discuss the Oct. 1 mass shooting investigation. Follow @LasVegasSun for updates.
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I don't know. Sounds like more "Fire can't melt steel" poppycock.
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He also has evidence of the existence of Big Foot.
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He also has evidence of the existence of Big Foot.
No Shit? Damn that guy is good. Sasquatch is a wiry dude.
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@driftdiver
Other shooters? Locked door? Lack of updates? Girlfriend taking down FB page before announcement of shooter's name? This story vexes me. We deserve some answers. Tucker is one of the few that is reporting on the story.
@austingirl
By all appearances he did a good job of covering his digital tracks. Much better then the average person could even with reading on the internet. My guess is she knew and went to the PI thinking that would keep her safe from prosecution. It may also have been to receive the 100k that he transferred over.
Theres also the reports that someone (asian female) was circulating through the crowd warning people. Muslims believe they are supposed to warn people before killing them, traditionally 3 days but perhaps they didnt want the concert security increased.
I also think he was livestreaming video from his cameras to the PI or elsewhere.
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The terrorist angle makes more sense to me than what the 'officials' have claimed.
It smelled like absolute bullshit they were feeding us within hours of the 'event'.
@INVAR
Yes, they said "we may never know the motive" before the investigation even started.
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@austingirl
By all appearances he did a good job of covering his digital tracks. Much better then the average person could even with reading on the internet. My guess is she knew and went to the PI thinking that would keep her safe from prosecution. It may also have been to receive the 100k that he transferred over.
Theres also the reports that someone (asian female) was circulating through the crowd warning people. Muslims believe they are supposed to warn people before killing them, traditionally 3 days but perhaps they didnt want the concert security increased.
I also think he was livestreaming video from his cameras to the PI or elsewhere.
@driftdiver
I'd like to know the explanation for him emailing gun info to himself. Who was really controlling the email account he sent the info to?
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@driftdiver
I'd like to know the explanation for him emailing gun info to himself. Who was really controlling the email account he sent the info to?
@austingirl
It may have been his way of creating an electronic backup of the information that was available from any source.
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I was at one of the conspiracy-type of fringe sites and they had some video clip they claimed was an NBC news person talking about multiple shooters. Of course, I thought this was a bit too way out. But who knows? Really?
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I was at one of the conspiracy-type of fringe sites and they had some video clip they claimed was an NBC news person talking about multiple shooters. Of course, I thought this was a bit too way out. But who knows? Really?
@TomSea
At first many people heard the echo's and thought there were two shooters.
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@TomSea
At first many people heard the echo's and thought there were two shooters.
My money is on the Philippine wife/girlfriend that disappeared back to the PI while they were still picking up bodies at the crime scene.
There is an Islamic terror cell in the southern part of the Islands.
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Drudge has a link saying the number of injured is 851, link doesn't go anywhere yet. Also, they found kiddie porn on his computer too.
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Hasn't the security guard disappeared?? Rumor is he's back in Mexico. :shrug:
According to this, yes: http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/tucker-reveals-las-vegas-security-guard-left-the-country-days-after-shooting-video/ (http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/tucker-reveals-las-vegas-security-guard-left-the-country-days-after-shooting-video/)
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Las Vegas shooter began to act 'strangely' leading up to carnage, girlfriend says, as motive remains a mystery
David Montero
Stephen Paddock gambled large sums of money, kept child pornography on his computer and purchased more than 55 weapons in the year leading up to the largest mass shooting in modern American history.
On Friday, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department released an 81-page report that revealed fresh insights into the behaviors and patterns of Paddock prior to the night he opened fire from his 32nd floor room at the Mandalay Bay on Oct. 1, killing 58 people. In all, 871 people were injured, with 422 suffering gunshot wounds.
Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo — holding his first news conference since mid-October — said he hoped the report would help answer some lingering questions that have given extended life to a variety of conspiracy theories that included the rumor of the massacre being tied to Islamic State or terrorism.
“There was one shooter in the 1 October massacre,†Lombardo said. “There was only one person responsible — and that was Stephen Paddock.†... Full story at L.A. Times (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-sheriff-20180119-story.html)
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My money is on the Philippine wife/girlfriend that disappeared back to the PI while they were still picking up bodies at the crime scene.
There is an Islamic terror cell in the southern part of the Islands.
Abu Sayef has been a problem there for quite a while. Terry Nichols had ties to the PI as well, back when, but the push was to blame all that on white guys with bibles and guns, even though there wasn't a gun used in that incident. The Ammonium Nitrate was a nice touch, though....
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Abu Sayef has been a problem there for quite a while. Terry Nichols had ties to the PI as well, back when, but the push was to blame all that on white guys with bibles and guns, even though there wasn't a gun used in that incident. The Ammonium Nitrate was a nice touch, though....
Nor was a Bible used there either.
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Abu Sayef has been a problem there for quite a while. Terry Nichols had ties to the PI as well, back when, but the push was to blame all that on white guys with bibles and guns, even though there wasn't a gun used in that incident. The Ammonium Nitrate was a nice touch, though....
@Smokin Joe
Wasn't there also some foreign travel and meetings with ME types that were never investigated in the OKC bombing- things that didn't fit the narrative?
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@Smokin Joe
Wasn't there also some foreign travel and meetings with ME types that were never investigated in the OKC bombing- things that didn't fit the narrative?
Yes, there was. I think Terry Nichols wife is/was Philipino too.
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@Smokin Joe
Wasn't there also some foreign travel and meetings with ME types that were never investigated in the OKC bombing- things that didn't fit the narrative?
Yes, and that was my point. Terry Nichols wife was from the PI, they had been over recently and she had relatives there. Clinton was so intent oon both deflecting anger over Waco (that the bombing was alleged to be in retaliation for the massacre of a church group, mostly defunct at that point or in custody). At the time, the ANFO (Ammonium Nitrate/Fuel Oil) filled truck was a popular jihadist M.O. (Beiruit, Khobar towers, to mention a couple--also Embassies in Africa), but that angle was not pursued in favor of blaming the growing militia movement, the NRA, and what Obama would later call 'bitter clingers'.
It is my opinion that the stovepiping of information and intent to simply ignore any jihadist activity led to Flight 800 and ultimately, (because of the structuring of information flow among intelligence agencies) 9/11 itself.
Two "John Does" were not identified in OKC, and the video of the site that morning either disappeared or was never released. Typical coinkydink.
But as Janet Reno was so fond of saying, "There is no evidence which exists..."
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Yes, and that was my point. Terry Nichols wife was from the PI, they had been over recently and she had relatives there. Clinton was so intent oon both deflecting anger over Waco (that the bombing was alleged to be in retaliation for the massacre of a church group, mostly defunct at that point or in custody). At the time, the ANFO (Ammonium Nitrate/Fuel Oil) filled truck was a popular jihadist M.O. (Beiruit, Khobar towers, to mention a couple--also Embassies in Africa), but that angle was not pursued in favor of blaming the growing militia movement, the NRA, and what Obama would later call 'bitter clingers'.
It is my opinion that the stovepiping of information and intent to simply ignore any jihadist activity led to Flight 800 and ultimately, (because of the structuring of information flow among intelligence agencies) 9/11 itself.
Two "John Does" were not identified in OKC, and the video of the site that morning either disappeared or was never released. Typical coinkydink.
But as Janet Reno was so fond of saying, "There is no evidence which exists..."
@Smokin Joe
I agree. But it is so much better politically to blame the "evil white man, domestic terrorist." They love that narrative.
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Yes, and that was my point. Terry Nichols wife was from the PI, they had been over recently and she had relatives there. Clinton was so intent oon both deflecting anger over Waco (that the bombing was alleged to be in retaliation for the massacre of a church group, mostly defunct at that point or in custody). At the time, the ANFO (Ammonium Nitrate/Fuel Oil) filled truck was a popular jihadist M.O. (Beiruit, Khobar towers, to mention a couple--also Embassies in Africa), but that angle was not pursued in favor of blaming the growing militia movement, the NRA, and what Obama would later call 'bitter clingers'.
It is my opinion that the stovepiping of information and intent to simply ignore any jihadist activity led to Flight 800 and ultimately, (because of the structuring of information flow among intelligence agencies) 9/11 itself.
Two "John Does" were not identified in OKC, and the video of the site that morning either disappeared or was never released. Typical coinkydink.
But as Janet Reno was so fond of saying, "There is no evidence which exists..."
I had a personal friend on flight 800 and another who worked for the FAA for more than 40 years at a high level and can tell you with absolute certainty that the government's story about that incident is a COMPLETE fabrication.
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I had a personal friend on flight 800 and another who worked for the FAA for more than 40 years at a high level and can tell you with absolute certainty that the government's story about that incident is a COMPLETE fabrication.
@austingirl @Bigun
When the NTSB and FAA were butted aside for the CIA and FBI to take over and the journalists who found PETN on fabric taken from the seatcovers were prosecuted I knew it was a scam. How many 747s have been in service since the three wise men looked in the manger and have never had a center fuel tank explosion. As an old oilfield hand, and a former firefighter I know flammable vapors need the right amount of oxygen to explode: it requires just the right mix and dispersion, and that isn't likely with a fuel that has been blended specifically to reduce volatility in the event of a problem in a closed tank designed to NOT have that problem. Spark or no spark, no oxygen, or the wrong mix of oxygen and air, no explosion, and in some cases, no fire.
When the CIA is making cartoons to explain away an event that should have been the purview of the NTSB, the only question is one of how much bullsh*t is being shoveled, not the nature of the substance.
Despite tens of thousands of pages and hundreds of interviews, not one person either on the ground or in the air, from multiple vantage points, who saw a streak of light go up before the plane came down was ever interviewed by the investigating agencies.
One thing about jihadis, if they do some thing and try to take credit and the act is written off as 'natural causes', they will do something bigger and more brutal until people finally notice that it was, in fact, a terrorist act. Their first try at the WTC didn't work, although they got credit for that. OKC was blamed on the white guys Clinton wanted desperately to disarm, and used as something to settle accounts over Waco although the events likely had no more relationship than being published about in the same newspapers, but they stove piped the intel agencies data to the point that the opportunity to stop 9/11 was crippled by the information flow parameters from the Gorelick Memo, the same Jamie Gorelick who sat on the 9/11 commission.
The swamp is a festering bog of rot and corruption, and it runs deep. It will take more than one presidential term, short of firing everyone and starting over, to drain the place.
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@austingirl @Bigun
When the NTSB and FAA were butted aside for the CIA and FBI to take over and the journalists who found PETN on fabric taken from the seatcovers were prosecuted I knew it was a scam. How many 747s have been in service since the three wise men looked in the manger and have never had a center fuel tank explosion. As an old oilfield hand, and a former firefighter I know flammable vapors need the right amount of oxygen to explode: it requires just the right mix and dispersion, and that isn't likely with a fuel that has been blended specifically to reduce volatility in the event of a problem in a closed tank designed to NOT have that problem. Spark or no spark, no oxygen, or the wrong mix of oxygen and air, no explosion, and in some cases, no fire.
When the CIA is making cartoons to explain away an event that should have been the purview of the NTSB, the only question is one of how much bullsh*t is being shoveled, not the nature of the substance.
Despite tens of thousands of pages and hundreds of interviews, not one person either on the ground or in the air, from multiple vantage points, who saw a streak of light go up before the plane came down was ever interviewed by the investigating agencies.
One thing about jihadis, if they do some thing and try to take credit and the act is written off as 'natural causes', they will do something bigger and more brutal until people finally notice that it was, in fact, a terrorist act. Their first try at the WTC didn't work, although they got credit for that. OKC was blamed on the white guys Clinton wanted desperately to disarm, and used as something to settle accounts over Waco although the events likely had no more relationship than being published about in the same newspapers, but they stove piped the intel agencies data to the point that the opportunity to stop 9/11 was crippled by the information flow parameters from the Gorelick Memo, the same Jamie Gorelick who sat on the 9/11 commission.
The swamp is a festering bog of rot and corruption, and it runs deep. It will take more than one presidential term, short of firing everyone and starting over, to drain the place.
@Smokin Joe
We are in complete agreement and it must be done.
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The swamp is a festering bog of rot and corruption, and it runs deep. It will take more than one presidential term, short of firing everyone and starting over, to drain the place.
Sorry Joe - I just don't agree that you can drain a festering bog of rot and corruption by using a festering bog of rot and corruption.
A wholly corrupted institution to promote lawlessness is NOT going to permit itself to be cleansed of said rot and corruption and lawlessness.
You cannot bring law to the lawless via civil means.
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Sorry Joe - I just don't agree that you can drain a festering bog of rot and corruption by using a festering bog of rot and corruption.
A wholly corrupted institution to promote lawlessness is NOT going to permit itself to be cleansed of said rot and corruption and lawlessness.
You cannot bring law to the lawless via civil means.
When one considers the systemic nature of this corruption, and the sums involved which would seem overwhelmingly huge to the average person, it is unlikely that an honest person or persons could prevail. Unfortunately, some bogs can only be cleared by climate change and subsequent excavation.
But as a fellow once said, a house divided against itself cannot stand. If either side thinks the other is cheating it (which is likely endemic) there is a remote chance that they will manage their mutual destruction.
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@austingirl @Bigun
When the NTSB and FAA were butted aside for the CIA and FBI to take over and the journalists who found PETN on fabric taken from the seatcovers were prosecuted I knew it was a scam. How many 747s have been in service since the three wise men looked in the manger and have never had a center fuel tank explosion. As an old oilfield hand, and a former firefighter I know flammable vapors need the right amount of oxygen to explode: it requires just the right mix and dispersion, and that isn't likely with a fuel that has been blended specifically to reduce volatility in the event of a problem in a closed tank designed to NOT have that problem. Spark or no spark, no oxygen, or the wrong mix of oxygen and air, no explosion, and in some cases, no fire.
When the CIA is making cartoons to explain away an event that should have been the purview of the NTSB, the only question is one of how much bullsh*t is being shoveled, not the nature of the substance.
Despite tens of thousands of pages and hundreds of interviews, not one person either on the ground or in the air, from multiple vantage points, who saw a streak of light go up before the plane came down was ever interviewed by the investigating agencies.
One thing about jihadis, if they do some thing and try to take credit and the act is written off as 'natural causes', they will do something bigger and more brutal until people finally notice that it was, in fact, a terrorist act. Their first try at the WTC didn't work, although they got credit for that. OKC was blamed on the white guys Clinton wanted desperately to disarm, and used as something to settle accounts over Waco although the events likely had no more relationship than being published about in the same newspapers, but they stove piped the intel agencies data to the point that the opportunity to stop 9/11 was crippled by the information flow parameters from the Gorelick Memo, the same Jamie Gorelick who sat on the 9/11 commission.
The swamp is a festering bog of rot and corruption, and it runs deep. It will take more than one presidential term, short of firing everyone and starting over, to drain the place.
@Smokin Joe @Bigun
I agree that the truth about flight 800 was covered up. I'm not sure the swamp can ever be drained. The cesspool created by the corrupt Uniparty has festered for so long, it may be impossible. But I'm liking what is being exposed recently.
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@Smokin Joe @Bigun
I agree that the truth about flight 800 was covered up. I'm not sure the swamp can ever be drained. The cesspool created by the corrupt Uniparty has festered for so long, it may be impossible. But I'm liking what is being exposed recently.
It is good to see some of the shallower denizens exposed, but the real bottom dwellers there may never be revealed.
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It is good to see some of the shallower denizens exposed, but the real bottom dwellers there may never be revealed.
The stuff of nightmares.
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@Smokin Joe @Bigun
I agree that the truth about flight 800 was covered up. I'm not sure the swamp can ever be drained. The cesspool created by the corrupt Uniparty has festered for so long, it may be impossible. But I'm liking what is being exposed recently.
@austingirl
Somewhere I heard it said that "The longest journey begins with a single step." I believe that is true and remain somewhat hopeful.