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Title: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 19, 2015, 05:50:44 pm
Here's what I think it might look like
POTUS- Ted Cruz
VP- Mike Lee
AG- Ken Cuccinelli
Sec of State-  Bruce Fein
Second of Defense- Allen West
Sec of Treasury- Peter Schiff
Press Sec- Allen Keyes 
That would be a great administration. With Rand Paul as Senate Majority Leader and Jim Jordan as Speaker of the House.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 19, 2015, 11:33:06 pm
Here's what I think it might look like
POTUS- Ted Cruz
VP- Mike Lee
AG- Ken Cuccinelli
Sec of State-  Bruce Fein
Second of Defense- Allen West
Sec of Treasury- Peter Schiff
Press Sec- Allen Keyes 
That would be a great administration. With Rand Paul as Senate Majority Leader and Jim Jordan as Speaker of the House.

Allen Keyes?  I would love to see Carly Fiorina there.  She is remarkably quick on her feet and very well spoken.

Sec of Treasury - Art Laffer.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 12:09:00 am
Alan Keyes is a much better speaker than  fiorina. He also stands for something. A true patriot unlike her.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: DCPatriot on December 20, 2015, 01:21:43 am
Unemployed.   :laugh:
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 02:58:30 am
Alan Keyes is a much better speaker than  fiorina. He also stands for something. A true patriot unlike her.

Alan Keyes is a flake. He would never be the spokesperson for somebody else.

Peter Schiff is a gold bug. Not somebody who should be shaping monetary policy. 

And Bruce Fein as SOS?  He's a nerdy lawyer.

I must say, you have a Star Wars bar scene as a cabinet.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: truth_seeker on December 20, 2015, 03:01:37 am
Alan Keyes is a much better speaker than  fiorina. He also stands for something. A true patriot unlike her.
So tell me. Besides a time in Reagan's administration (now 27+ years ago) what precisely has Keyes accomplished?

After Reagan, why didn't any other leading Republicans take him on their staffs?

Answer: He is a tall talker, and just about anybody can do that. He can't get elected, in spite of many tries. Perhaps he could have, if he had applied better judgment and tried starting lower, than US Senator.

Clue: Nixon started as a US House of Representatives candidate, then Senate, then VP, lost running for potus, lost running for governor, finally won the presidency.

Reagan won governorship, then tried 3 times for potus nomination before getting it.

 
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 03:17:07 am
Read the Wikipedia article on Keyes.

He's even nuttier than I realized. He compares Pope Francis to Mao, Stalin, and Marx.

I remember when he came to Dallas in 2004 and called George W. Bush a murderer because of his stem cell decision.  Bizarre.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Paladin on December 20, 2015, 04:28:48 am
Alan Keyes is a flake. He would never be the spokesperson for somebody else.

Peter Schiff is a gold bug. Not somebody who should be shaping monetary policy. 

And Bruce Fein as SOS?  He's a nerdy lawyer.

Good heavens, does this guy like anyone? Anyone at all? He seems to get his jollies on here by attacking and personally insulting anyone who could even be considered remotely a Conservative. Now that either speaks to some deep emotional lack within himself or he is merely a DNC plant.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 04:37:46 am
Good heavens, does this guy like anyone? Anyone at all? He seems to get his jollies on here by attacking and personally insulting anyone who could even be considered remotely a Conservative. Now that either speaks to some deep emotional lack within himself or he is merely a DNC plant.

No. I wouldn't let ANY of these people near a conservative administration.

They're fruitcakes. 

Alan Keyes? Are you kidding?

Why don't you take issue with me instead of insulting me?  And your amateur psychologist schtick is getting stale.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 05:07:10 am
Sinkspur and truth-seeker
You 2have been my main attackers on this forum.  Let's just be honest. You don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.
Sinkspur you say "I wouldn't let any of these people near a conservative administration"
So Cuccinelli, who was the AG of Virginia(my state) is not qualified to be AG of the United States? Or is he too radical for you buddy? Cuccinelli is FAR more qualified than Ashcroft, Holder, or Lynch.
truth-seeker you said
"Alan Keyes is a tall talker"

So Keyes isn't conservative either? What's a Press Sec supposed to do dumbass? TALK! But I'm sure you like Josh Earnest. Please stop worshipping Reagan if you want to be taken seriously.
Sinkspur
You also say
"Peter Schiff is a goldbugs"

No. He's one of the best Austrian economists. An outsider just like Cruz

Bruce Fein is not "just a lawyer"He was one of Ron Paul's top foreign policyadvisors and has done quite a bit of work on foreign affairs. Why does SOS always have to be a politician?

You two hate real conservatism. You attack Buchanan because he doesn't want America being raped by Israel. You attack the JBS for its past (I would bet you've never read the New American) What makes you two qualified to be the Gods of conservatism? As I've said many times, conservatism is broad. You don't get to decide who is or isn't conservative.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 05:10:25 am
Sinkspur and truth-seeker
You 2have been my main attackers on this forum.  Let's just be honest. You don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.
Sinkspur you say "I wouldn't let any of these people near a conservative administration"
So Cuccinelli, who was the AG of Virginia(my state) is not qualified to be AG of the United States? Or is he too radical for you buddy? Cuccinelli is FAR more qualified than Ashcroft, Holder, or Lynch.
truth-seeker you said
"Alan Keyes is a tall talker"

So Keyes isn't conservative either? What's a Press Sec supposed to do dumbass? TALK! But I'm sure you like Josh Earnest. Please stop worshipping Reagan if you want to be taken seriously.
Sinkspur
You also say
"Peter Schiff is a goldbugs"

No. He's one of the best Austrian economists. An outsider just like Cruz

Bruce Fein is not "just a lawyer"He was one of Ron Paul's top foreign policyadvisors and has done quite of bit of work on foreign affairs. Why does SOS always have to be a politician?

You two hate real conservatism. You attack Buchanan because he doesn't want America being raped by Israel. You attack the JBS for its oast( I would bet you've never read the New American) What makes you two qualified to be the Gods of conservatism? As I've said many times, conservatism is broad. You don't get to decide who is or isn't conservative.

You're a kid. If you were my kid, I'd slap you across the face.

Peter Schiff is a goldbug. Go read his writings.

Pat Buchanan is an anti-semite.  Perhaps you don't mind being in the company of such people.  I do.

And if you're OK with anti-semites, I'm not OK with you.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Paladin on December 20, 2015, 05:17:11 am
"Why don't you take issue with me instead of insulting me?"

PaleoConPrep did just that and did it masterfully. Nonetheless even after being completely owned you lash out with your usual venom.

"You're a kid. If you were my kid, I'd slap you across the face."

"Pat Buchanan is an anti-semite."

Why Mystery puts up with your constant negativism and vile attitude is simply beyond me.

Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 05:24:32 am
Sinkspur
So my age disqualifies me from being taken seriously? Shapiro started at 19. It's not my age. It's that you hate Old Right conservatism. You'd slap me across the face?  Do you realize how stupid you sound when you say stuff like that. What's you're definition of anti-Semite? An Anti-Semite is someone who calls for the murder of Jews. Buchanan has never done that.  If it's someone who verbally  attacks or dislikes Israel, then I'm an anti-semite.  Sorry, but the Jews aren't special. They can be criticized like anyone else. I agree with Schiff on gold. We need to go back to the Gold Standard.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 05:26:28 am
Paladin
THANK YOU! You are my first defender, and I greatly appreciate that.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: truth_seeker on December 20, 2015, 07:59:41 am
Being called a dumbass, by somebody who is admittedly an anti-Semite, an advocate of fascism, and that admonishes me to stop worshipping Reagan, is a badge of honor I proudly wear.

FYI between Alan Keyes, Ted Cruz and Ronald Reagan, I'll take Reagan every time.

Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 08:07:52 am
Truth-seeker
Give me your definition of anti-Semite.  As much as I hate to tell you this, Reagans presidency ended 30 years ago. People like Ted Cruz are the way of the future.

Here's what Paul Gottfried said of modern-day Reaganites
" Revered by some as Ronald Reagan might be, attempting to recreate his political age in a long-since fundamentally transformed America isn’t the wisest of ideas. Still, as mainstream conservative pundits advocate exactly this, the rug on which they stand is pulled out from under their feet."
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 08:30:43 am
Just for the idiots who call me a Fascist, here's a repost of my political platform.

Marriage- between one man and one woman
Abortion- illegal unless the mothers life is at risk
Death Penalty- Legal in all states. Make rape and pedophilia punishable by death.
Gun Control- very little. Keep guns away from violent felons
Economy- free Market Capitalism. Protectionist trade policy
Healthcare- slightly regulated free-market healthcare system.
Taxes- National Sales Tax. Abolish the IRS.
Foreign Policy- Non-interventionism. End ALL foreign entanglements. Only get involved if there is an IMMEDIATE threat to the U.S. Let the Middle East deal with itself. End ALL foreign aid. Stop putting Israel ahead of America.  Get out of the UN immediately.
Bureaucracy- Abolish the EPA, HUD, Department of Education, Department of Commerce, and a couple others.
Education- end public education. Support private schools, charter schools, and homeschooling. End all government funding for universities. Let them fund themselves.
Other- Repeal 16th and 17th Amendment. Ban ACLU. Go back to Gold Standard
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 20, 2015, 05:07:54 pm
Paladin
THANK YOU! You are my first defender, and I greatly appreciate that.

Actually, I was one of your first defenders.  I took your statements seriously and at face value and responded in kind.

Mod:  you -> your.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 05:16:58 pm
"Why don't you take issue with me instead of insulting me?"

PaleoConPrep did just that and did it masterfully. Nonetheless even after being completely owned you lash out with your usual venom.

"You're a kid. If you were my kid, I'd slap you across the face."

"Pat Buchanan is an anti-semite."

Why Mystery puts up with your constant negativism and vile attitude is simply beyond me.

Pat Buchanan IS an anti-semite.  William F. Buckley wrote a long essay in 1992 describing in detail how much of one.

She puts up with me because she puts up with you, too.

Every post you've put up about me lately has been filled with nothing but insults.  Nothing of substance.

So, pot-kettle-black.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 05:21:34 pm
Sinkspur
So my age disqualifies me from being taken seriously? Shapiro started at 19. It's not my age. It's that you hate Old Right conservatism. You'd slap me across the face?  Do you realize how stupid you sound when you say stuff like that. What's you're definition of anti-Semite? An Anti-Semite is someone who calls for the murder of Jews. Buchanan has never done that.  If it's someone who verbally  attacks or dislikes Israel, then I'm an anti-semite.  Sorry, but the Jews aren't special. They can be criticized like anyone else. I agree with Schiff on gold. We need to go back to the Gold Standard.

Anti-semitism encompasses lots of attitudes.  Outright Jew hatred is one.  Denying certain elements of the Holocaust is another (Buchanan has done that).  Trashing Israel  and references to the "Israeli lobby" (which Pat has also done) are another indicator. So, yeah, Pat Buchanan is anti-semitic.

What do you dislike about Israel?  Is it because it's full of Jews?

Thankfully, there are so few paleos like you that there is no danger of you guys ever getting near the levers of power in the near or even distant future.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: truth_seeker on December 20, 2015, 05:38:59 pm
John G. Schmitz. He was a Bircher.  He was a paleocon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Schmitz

I look at the real flesh and blood humans. Schmitz was a disaster as a person.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 05:49:58 pm
Sinkspur
ENOUGH with the obsession over Reagan and William F. Buckley. There's no doubt that the Jewish lobby in this country has great influence. There's nothing wrong with trashing Israel. My main issue with them is the way Bibi tries to make the middle eastern countries look evil, while making Israel look defenseless. Every time the leaders of Iran use dumb rhetoric like "Israel will not exist in 25 years" Bibi takes it seriously. This shows that he's either stupid or just wants war. Iran could NEVER do great harm to Israel. Iran is a 3rd world hellhole, while Israel is a first world country with nuclear weapons. If Iran attacked Israel, Israel could destroy them in an afternoon. You need to stop taking the dumb rhetoric of Iranian leaders seriously. I have no issue with Jews( I have a very good friend who is a Modern Orthodox Jew) NeoCons say, Israel is our only ally in the Middle East. It deeply saddens me when I see the U.S bomb  a wedding party in Afghanistan and kills 73, or when I see a strike on a hospital kill 22. There is NO EXCUSE for this kind of behavior. Whoever conducted those strikes ought to be severely punished.  Yet you never hear Neocons talk abou that. Don't you have a heart? In truth, Americas only ally is America. We have no business even being in the Middle East. PaleoCons do have power. Trump and Cruz are more Paleoconservative than NeoCon. The Constitution Party has 300k members.  It's NeoCons who should be worried. Libertarianism is also very popular among young Republicans.


Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 20, 2015, 05:52:52 pm
Sinkspur
ENOUGH with the obsession over Reagan and William F. Buckley. There's no doubt that the Jewish lobby in this country has great influence. There's nothing wrong with trashing Israel. My main issue with them is the way Bibi tries to make the middle eastern countries look evil, while making Israel look defenseless. Every time the leaders of Iran use dumb rhetoric like "Israel will not exist in 25 years" Bibi takes it seriously. This shows that he's either stupid or just wants war. Iran could NEVER do great harm to Israel. Iran is a 3rd world hellhole, while Israel is a first world country with nuclear weapons. If Iran attacked Israel, Israel could destroy them in an afternoon. You need to stop taking the dumb rhetoric of Iranian leaders seriously. I have no issue with Jews( I have a very good friend who is a Modern Orthodox Jew) NeoCons say, Israel is our only ally in the Middle East. It deeply saddens me when I see the U.S bomb  a wedding party in Afghanistan and kills 73, or when I see a strike on a hospital kill 22. There is NO EXCUSE for this kind of behavior. Whoever conducted those strikes ought to be severely punished.  Yet you never hear Neocons talk abou that. Don't you have a heart? In truth, Americas only ally is America. We have no business even being in the Middle East. PaleoCons do have power. Trump and Cruz are more Paleoconservative than NeoCon. The Constitution Party has 300k members.  It's NeoCons who should be worried. Libertarianism is also very popular among young Republicans.

You can put people on ignore.  That way, you don't see their posts, unless someone includes them within a quote.  Sometimes a person's mind is so closed that the only reasonable response is to not respond.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: EC on December 20, 2015, 05:57:08 pm
My main issue with them is the way Bibi tries to make the middle eastern countries look evil, while making Israel look defenseless. Every time the leaders of Iran use dumb rhetoric like "Israel will not exist in 25 years" Bibi takes it seriously. This shows that he's either stupid or just wants war. Iran could NEVER do great harm to Israel. Iran is a 3rd world hellhole, while Israel is a first world country with nuclear weapons. If Iran attacked Israel, Israel could destroy them in an afternoon. You need to stop taking the dumb rhetoric of Iranian leaders seriously.

Kid - leave the Middle East stuff to people who actually know what they are talking about from first hand experience. OK?

Also - grab a history lesson or two. Better make it a dozen, really.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 05:58:13 pm
Truth-seeker
That's one person. Why don't you look at the JBS today. Try and read the New American once in a while.

Sinkspur
Put your dislike of PaleoCons aside, and watch Paul Gottfrieds lecture on the Jewish lobby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYPAvT-3Fvs
Also watch Pat Buchanan school Hanity on Iran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVA7JHawPlA
After you've watched these 2 videos, tell me what you think.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 05:59:19 pm
Sinkspur
ENOUGH with the obsession over Reagan and William F. Buckley. There's no doubt that the Jewish lobby in this country has great influence. There's nothing wrong with trashing Israel. My main issue with them is the way Bibi tries to make the middle eastern countries look evil, while making Israel look defenseless. Every time the leaders of Iran use dumb rhetoric like "Israel will not exist in 25 years" Bibi takes it seriously. This shows that he's either stupid or just wants war. Iran could NEVER do great harm to Israel. Iran is a 3rd world hellhole, while Israel is a first world country with nuclear weapons. If Iran attacked Israel, Israel could destroy them in an afternoon. You need to stop taking the dumb rhetoric of Iranian leaders seriously. I have no issue with Jews( I have a very good friend who is a Modern Orthodox Jew) NeoCons say, Israel is our only ally in the Middle East. It deeply saddens me when I see the U.S bomb  a wedding party in Afghanistan and kills 73, or when I see a strike on a hospital kill 22. There is NO EXCUSE for this kind of behavior. Whoever conducted those strikes ought to be severely punished.  Yet you never hear Neocons talk abou that. Don't you have a heart? In truth, Americas only ally is America. We have no business even being in the Middle East. PaleoCons do have power. Trump and Cruz are more Paleoconservative than NeoCon. The Constitution Party has 300k members.  It's NeoCons who should be worried. Libertarianism is also very popular among young Republicans.

Nothing about your hero Buchanan, I see.  You should do some research on Pat and some of the outrageous things he's said.

Nobody said Israel is our only ally in the Middle East.  But Israel IS our best and most reliable ally. 

Well, your buddy wants to carpet bomb ISIS' stronghold in Syria, which would no doubt result in many more than 73 civilian deaths.  So much for Cruz being a paleocon.

I'm not worried about paleos or the Constitution Party.  300K is one-tenth of one percent of the population. 

And Trump as a paleocon is a laugh. Trump is a WINNER.  In fact, he's the Greatest WINNER OF ALL TIME!!  He has no political ideology, which means he'll sway with the wind.

Something he's always done.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 06:03:48 pm
Truth-seeker
By the way, the JBS EXPELLED Schmitz. He was kicked out of the Society, yet you still try and link the 2 together. Nice try.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 06:10:35 pm
Sinkspur
Yes Cruz says he'll carpet bomb ISIS, and that's something I disagree with him on, but overall, his foreign policy is non-interventionist. He calls it an "America Furst' foreign policy. He has been called an isolationist by crackpot Neocons. Neoconservatism is on death watch. The American people want peace and prosperity, not war and economic collapse. The days of Bush-era foreign policy are long gone. The only NeoCon who has a shot at POTUS is Hillary.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: truth_seeker on December 20, 2015, 06:16:00 pm
The US Presidents that have turned away from Israel are Carter and Obama. Both democrats.

Apparently those two and their foreign policies, would please our member.

There is little room for anti-Israel anti-Semites in the Republican Party. John G. Schmitz (1972) out performed Pat Buchanan (2000), in their respective runs for the Presidency. Both as third-party candidates.

I see no reason to tolerate anti-Semitism or fascism on this discussion forum.

Mussolini was Hitler's great inspiration, btw.

"The Doctrine of Fascism" by Benito Mussolini, 1932

"Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal, will of man as a historic entity (11). It is opposed to classical liberalism which arose as a reaction to absolutism and exhausted its historical function when the State became the expression of the conscience and will of the people."

http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm
 
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 06:18:31 pm
Truth-seeker
That's one person. Why don't you look at the JBS today. Try and read the New American once in a while.

Sinkspur
Put your dislike of PaleoCons aside, and watch Paul Gottfrieds lecture on the Jewish lobby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYPAvT-3Fvs
Also watch Pat Buchanan school Hanity on Iran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVA7JHawPlA
After you've watched these 2 videos, tell me what you think.

First, if these are the best you've got, your movement is in trouble.
Both of these guys are geriatric and will be dead soon.

I didn't listen to all of Gottfried, but I quickly got the idea that he blames Jews for all the ills in the world.
Too many Jews in the media, too many Jews in finance, too many Jews in general.

Same old anti-semitic crap I've heard all my life.

As for Buchanan,  all he demonstrated is that he never met a terrorist-sponsoring country he didn't like.

Buchanan defends Iran just as he defends the Palestinians.  He's done that for as long as I've listened to him.

Your examples just prove my point about my concerns about anti-semitism in certain segments of conservatism.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 06:26:10 pm
Truth-seeker
I would favor a Calvin Coolidge/Ron Paul' style foreign policy. I reposted my political platform for people like you who call me a Fascist. An Anti-Semite is a person who discriminates against, or calls for the murder of Jews.
Buchanan and the JBS have never done that. Neither have I

Sinkspur
You know Gottfrieds a Jew, right? :laugh: A Jew can't be an anti-Semite. As far as Palestine goes, Israel has 2 choices.
1. Give Palestine the West Bank( which is what Buchanan suggests)
2. Expell all Palestinians from the West Bank( which is what Ben Shapiro has suggested)
This conflict can't go on forever. Israel is going to have to make one of these choices.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: truth_seeker on December 20, 2015, 07:25:19 pm
Paleo-cons, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan = Blame America First

i.e. it is all our fault. If we hadn't mistreated the poor middle-east muslims, they would still love us, not hate us and want to kill us. Hence 9/11/2001

Harry Browne caused Larry Elder to leave the Libertarian Party, in favor of the Republican Party.

Browne was affiliated with kooksville "antiwar.com," "lewrockwell.com," World Nut Daily, etc.

Blame America First. No Thanks, to Ron Paul's foreign policy.


Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 07:50:04 pm
Truth-seeker
No one blames America. I do blame the Bush and Obama administrations for destroying the Middle East. No ones saying "they'd love us if we hadn't mistreated them" We say that we have NO BUISNESS in the Middle East.  We put AMERICANS First, not Israelis.
Here's what the Constitution Party says
http://www.constitutionparty.com/foreign-policy1/

Also, here's a good article from the New American.
http://cts.vresp.com/c/?TheJohnBirchSociety/4f48ba7261/a95b36c13d/7b0d31c203/utm_content=Khater&utm_source=VerticalResponse&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=Are%20Rand%20Paul%20and%20Ted%20Cruz%20Isolationists%3F&utm_campaign=Paul%20Ryan%2C%20John%20Boehner%3A%20What%27s%20the%20Difference%3F
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: truth_seeker on December 20, 2015, 08:02:58 pm
Truth-seeker
No one blames America. I do blame the Bush and Obama administrations for destroying the Middle East. No ones saying "they'd love us if we hadn't mistreated them" We say that we have NO BUISNESS in the Middle East.  We put AMERICANS First, not Israelis.
Here's what the Vonstitution Party says
http://www.constitutionparty.com/foreign-policy1/
You are all over the map, like a piece of mercury. John Birch Society, Fascism, Libertarianism, now the Constitution party.

And telling me to stop worshipping Reagan. Sorry, I shall remain stable, consistent, based in the real world, while you flit about.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 08:11:58 pm
Truth-seeker
I'm totally consistent. When did I say I was a Libertarian or a Fascist? Liking Ron Paul doesn't make someone a Libertarian. I was just throwing Fascism out there. I'm not a Fascist. I'm an Old Right Paleoconservative Nationalist. The John Birch Society and the Constitution Party stand for the same principles. These are two groups I have great admiration for. Look at my political platform if you want to know where I stand on issues.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 20, 2015, 09:10:19 pm
...
You know Gottfrieds a Jew, right? :laugh: A Jew can't be an anti-Semite. ...

You do know that Soros is Jewish, right?
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 09:32:22 pm
What does Soros have to do with anything? All I'm saying is that Gottfried is a Jew. You can't call him an Anti-Semite.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Paladin on December 20, 2015, 09:58:53 pm
Paladin
THANK YOU! You are my first defender, and I greatly appreciate that.

You're welcome, though your posts indicate you don't need much in the way of "defending". Not to detract from your accomplishments on here, but they are somewhat diminished by the lack of any real intellectual quality on the part of your opponents.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 10:15:06 pm
Paladin
I'm seriously concerned about Sinkspur. I just made a thread about an elite Reformed theologian ( Dr. James White) presentation on Islam, and the first thing he does is attack the theologian. What's with Sinkspur? He seems to have something against me.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: DCPatriot on December 20, 2015, 10:26:07 pm
Paladin
I'm seriously concerned about Sinkspur. I just made a thread about an elite Reformed theologian ( Dr. James White) presentation on Islam, and the first thing he does is attack the theologian. What's with Sinkspur? He seems to have something against me.

Imo....lose the need to respond to everyone that disagrees. You keep your sanity that way.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 10:27:29 pm
Paladin
I'm seriously concerned about Sinkspur. I just made a thread about an elite Reformed theologian ( Dr. James White) presentation on Islam, and the first thing he does is attack the theologian. What's with Sinkspur? He seems to have something against me.

Nothing against you. Just don't agree with you.  Your "Reformed theologian" also attacks my faith.  I just want everybody to know that this guy makes his living telling everyone but evangelical Protestants why their beliefs are wrong.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 10:31:25 pm
Sinkspur
Socrates did the same thing. White runs a full ministry, and is an elder at Phoenix Reformed Baptist Church. He doesn't "make a living" by tearing people down. If you dislike him, fine, but don't attack him for telling the truth. You say your Catholic. As a REAL Protestant, I have passionate disagreements with the Catholic Church on several things. I don't hate Catholics, but I do dislike the Church. If you disagree with White, prove him wrong. Otherwise, stop responding to my threads
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 10:39:41 pm
Sinkspur
Socrates did the same thing. White runs a full ministry, and is an elder at Phoenix Reformed Baptist Church. He doesn't "make a living" by tearing people down. If you dislike him, fine, but don't attack him for telling the truth. You say your Catholic. As a REAL Protestant, I have passionate disagreements with the Catholic Church on several things. I don't hate Catholics, but I do dislike the Church. If you disagree with White, prove him wrong. Otherwise, stop responding to my threads

As I told you on another thread, I think it's a waste of time to engage in apologetics. You're never going to convince me to change, and I won't convince you.

And I will not stop responding to your threads.  You're free to put me on ignore if you wish.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 20, 2015, 10:42:33 pm
On a lighter note, I had a question for you guys. I'm considering starting a YouTube channel. I'll do an hour long show once a week. During the show, I'll cover topics like politics,  theology, philosophy, and sports. How do I go about doing this? What are the Dos and Donts when it comes to having a political YouTube channel? Are there things I shouldn't say? I want to be the Ben Shapiroof Paleoconservatism! SERIOUS ANSWERS ONLY PLEASE!  Sinkspur, please don't answer my question unless you have real advice. I'm asking this seriously.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 10:46:22 pm
On a lighter note, I had a question for you guys. I'm considering starting a YouTube channel. I'll do an hour long show once a week. During the show, I'll cover topics like politics,  theology, philosophy, and sports. How do I go about doing this? What are the Dos and Donts when it comes to having a political YouTube channel? Are there things I shouldn't say? I want to be the Ben Shapiroof Paleoconservatism! SERIOUS ANSWERS ONLY PLEASE!

The most important thing to remember is that EVERYTHING you say will be preserved for eternity and will be viewed by admissions counselors of schools, future employers, future spouses, and even your own children.

So never say anything that might harm your opportunities with any of those people.

You can shut down your YouTube channel, but, somehow, those videos have a way of showing up in the strangest of places.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 20, 2015, 10:47:58 pm
BTW, if you have a Google+ page you can put your videos on your page.  Google owns YouTube.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Paladin on December 21, 2015, 01:09:31 am
Paladin
I'm seriously concerned about Sinkspur. I just made a thread about an elite Reformed theologian ( Dr. James White) presentation on Islam, and the first thing he does is attack the theologian. What's with Sinkspur? He seems to have something against me.

No, Paleo, he has nothing against you personally. He is emotionally ill and his illness expresses itself in attempts to belittle and bully. Post your opinions and concepts with no concern for his fatuous rants.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 21, 2015, 01:14:33 am
No, Paleo, he has nothing against you personally. He is emotionally ill and his illness expresses itself in attempts to belittle and bully. Post your opinions and concepts with no concern for his fatuous rants.

Your obsessive-compulsive need to comment on everything I say is the emotional illness.  It's pathological, wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Paladin on December 21, 2015, 01:17:49 am
Get help, sinkspur. Seriously, get help.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: sinkspur on December 21, 2015, 01:22:04 am
Get help, sinkspur. Seriously, get help.

No.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 21, 2015, 01:31:03 am
What does Soros have to do with anything? All I'm saying is that Gottfried is a Jew. You can't call him an Anti-Semite.

Think about it.  Soros is Jewish, he supports anti-jewish causes, therefore he is an anti-semite. 
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 21, 2015, 01:57:26 am
I'll say it again. An Anti-Semite is someone who discriminates against, or calls for the murder of Jews. Gottfried has not done that. I don't know enough about Soros.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 21, 2015, 02:03:27 am
I'll say it again. An Anti-Semite is someone who discriminates against, or calls for the murder of Jews. Gottfried has not done that. I don't know enough about Soros.

What's to know?  It's a simple point.

I'm glad you're here, and I'm glad you're right-thinking.  Remember to learn.  Trust me, you don't know it all yet, nor will you ever.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 21, 2015, 02:17:44 am
Only God knows all.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 21, 2015, 02:18:52 am
Only God knows all.

Not an appropriate answer.  In fact, pretty trollish.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: DCPatriot on December 21, 2015, 02:20:52 am
I'll say it again. An Anti-Semite is someone who discriminates against, or calls for the murder of Jews. Gottfried has not done that. I don't know enough about Soros.

Wait!  What??

Who gets to choose the act of murder as the threshold?

In today's PC culture, that's comical.

Anybody who consistently speaks about Israel from a negative POV....as the aggressor vs the victim...is an Anti-Semite.

Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Bigun on December 21, 2015, 02:22:14 am
Only God knows all.

I would say that his helping the Nazis  run down his fellow Jews qualifies him as an anti semite
but what do I know!
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 21, 2015, 02:34:34 am
I don't follow the PC culture. If criticizing Israel makes one an Anti-Semite, then I'm an Anti-Semite. What idiots you guys are
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: mystery-ak on December 21, 2015, 02:37:47 am
I don't follow the PC culture. If criticizing Israel makes one an Anti-Semite, then I'm an Anti-Semite. What idiots you guys are

PCP...grow up...stop calling other members idiots when they don't agree with you...this forum may not be the place for you!
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: DCPatriot on December 21, 2015, 02:38:50 am
I don't follow the PC culture. If criticizing Israel makes one an Anti-Semite, then I'm an Anti-Semite. What idiots you guys are

People consider Pat Buchanan an Anti-Semite.   The have countless video of Pat speaking about his positions on Jews and Israel.

When you are in the public eye, image is reality.  He is correctly described as an Anti-Semite.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 21, 2015, 02:49:48 am
The American public was stupid enough to elect Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama as POTUS. I don't think the public has the right to judge anyone. Stop calling me names, and I'll stop calling you names.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: DCPatriot on December 21, 2015, 02:53:15 am
The American public was stupid enough to elect Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama as POTUS. I don't think the public has the right to judge anyone. Stop calling me names, and I'll stop calling you names.

It's a shame.  It's obvious you're a bright young man.

Perhaps you'll grow a thicker hide as you get older. 

Hope so....for everyone's sake.   :laugh:
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 21, 2015, 02:55:45 am
...It's obvious you're a...young man....

No, that's actually not at all obvious.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: mystery-ak on December 21, 2015, 02:59:44 am
The American public was stupid enough to elect Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama as POTUS. I don't think the public has the right to judge anyone. Stop calling me names, and I'll stop calling you names.

Like I said..you are in the wrong place..TBR is not for you..
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 21, 2015, 03:01:15 am
All I can say is keep living in fantasy land. When the economic collapse comes, the government will regret putting Israel ahead of America. I can't wait for the collapse. The government will be violently overthrown, and everything will go back to the way it was before Woodrow Wilson. There will be no time for PC crap after that. You can doubt my age all you want. When I start my YouTube channel, I hope you comment.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: mystery-ak on December 21, 2015, 03:02:57 am
bye
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: PaleoConPrep on December 21, 2015, 03:03:27 am
If you want me off this forum, give me the name of a Paleoconservative forum. If you guys don't want me, I'll leave.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 21, 2015, 03:06:35 am
Leave.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: jmyrlefuller on December 21, 2015, 03:08:26 am
If you want me off this forum, give me the name of a Paleoconservative forum. If you guys don't want me, I'll leave.
Try Stormfront.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: famousdayandyear on December 21, 2015, 03:10:47 am
If you want me off this forum, give me the name of a Paleoconservative forum. If you guys don't want me, I'll leave.

Ace of Spades:  ace.mu.nu

You'll love it
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: katzenjammer on December 21, 2015, 03:11:36 am
Damnit!  Now we won't know the name of his Youtube channel!!  It certainly sounded like it would be an entertaining one...

I was going to suggest some forums for him as well:  paleoconsRus.com is a good one (especially for younger members), as is paleoconsNOW.net.  Both lively and engaging!

Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Paladin on December 21, 2015, 03:16:18 am
Anybody who consistently speaks about Israel from a negative POV....as the aggressor vs the victim...is an Anti-Semite.

Seriously, DC? You should be smarter than that. There are a great number of orthodox Jews who oppose the Zionist establishment of Israel as not only in error, but as sinful.

"The anti-Zionist world-view of the ultra-orthodox groups Neturei Karta and Satmar Hasidism perceives Zionism and the estab­lishment of the State of Israel as an anti-messianic act, conceived and born from sin. These groups vigorously deny the very legiti­macy of the collective political return to the Holy Land and to Jewish sovereignty. For them, this is the handiwork of humans, violating the Jewish people’s oath of political quietism.

In the words of the Midrash (as expounded by Rashi), the people were adjured not to return collectively to the Land of Israel by the exertion of physical force, nor to “rebel against the nations of the world,” nor to “hasten the End.” In short, they were required to wait for the heavenly, complete, miraculous, supernatural, and meta-historical redemption that is totally distinct from the realm of human endeavor. This waiting over two millennia manifests the very essence and singularity of the Jewish people, expressing their faith in divine providence, in the assurance of the prophets, and in messianic destiny."

[more] http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/ultra-orthodox-anti-zionist/

I hardly think these people are anti-Semites.

A word more on this term: "anti-Semite".

"Semite, person speaking one of a group of related languages, presumably derived from a common language, Semitic (see Semitic languages). The term came to include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, some Ethiopians, and Aramaean tribes including Hebrews."

Semitism is a language group which includes all those languages above, including Arabic. Thus to call someomne an "anti-Semite" is to claim he is anti- all those groups, including the Arabs, who are thus anti- themselves, which is inherently contradictory.

I do not mean to be pedantic, but I loathe the sloppy use of language which anyone should recognize how much damage that has done in this modern era. In this case we are talking not about Semitism, but Zionism which is a political movement and thus not above criticism.

Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: EdinVA on December 21, 2015, 03:23:22 am
On a lighter note, I had a question for you guys. I'm considering starting a YouTube channel. I'll do an hour long show once a week. During the show, I'll cover topics like politics,  theology, philosophy, and sports. How do I go about doing this? What are the Dos and Donts when it comes to having a political YouTube channel? Are there things I shouldn't say? I want to be the Ben Shapiroof Paleoconservatism! SERIOUS ANSWERS ONLY PLEASE!  Sinkspur, please don't answer my question unless you have real advice. I'm asking this seriously.

Just an observation.  Take it for what it is worth but you need to understand that the folks on TBR have a wealth of real life experience, some from Korea, vietnam and more recent.  They have weather many administrations of all kinds and recessions.  They have carried this country thru riots, assassinations, disasters and all varieties of crises, both personal and national.
And while I disagree with many on some topics, there is much to be gained if you take the time to listen.

Telling folks to "stick it up their pipe" is not the way to win friends and influence enemies.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Bigun on December 21, 2015, 03:28:39 am
Just an observation.  Take it for what it is worth but you need to understand that the folks on TBR have a wealth of real life experience, some from Korea, vietnam and more recent.  They have weather many administrations of all kinds and recessions.  They have carried this country thru riots, assassinations, disasters and all varieties of crises, both personal and national.
And while I disagree with many on some topics, there is much to be gained if you take the time to listen.

Telling folks to "stick it up their pipe" is not the way to win friends and influence enemies.

 :amen:
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: Sanguine on December 21, 2015, 03:29:05 am
Ed,  that was no more a conservative than I am Santa Claus.  Well, except for that brief period when my children were small.
Title: Re: What will the Cruz administration look like?
Post by: EdinVA on December 21, 2015, 03:38:41 am
Ed,  that was no more a conservative than I am Santa Claus.  Well, except for that brief period when my children were small.

 :beer: