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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Right_in_Virginia on October 18, 2017, 03:01:42 pm
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Bannon endorses Ward, signaling Trump supporters have settled on a challenger to Flake
AZCentral, Oct 18, 2017
Steve Bannon on Tuesday rallied Arizona’s conservative grass-roots activists on behalf of Kelli Ward’s insurgent Republican campaign against GOP incumbent Sen. Jeff Flake. It was the biggest indicator to date that the allies of President Donald Trump are settling on Ward as their preferred challenger to Flake.
Bannon, Trump’s controversial former White House strategist and the man many credit with his unlikely victory in the presidential race, ripped Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and vowed that the Republican elite are destined to "reap the whirlwind" and "that whirlwind is Kelli Ward."
More: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2017/10/17/steve-bannon-endorseare-donald-trump-supporters-settling-kelli-ward-their-pick-against-sen-jeff-flak/769872001/
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I just hope she's never claimed to be descended from the Arpaio Indians or anything similarly odd. Barring that, I like it.
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So Bannon supports Chemtrail Kelli..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1UCgkX1wD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MKF1Y9qZsw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPYYs-ZZ8PQ
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I just hope she's never claimed to be descended from the Arpaio Indians or anything similarly odd. Barring that, I like it.
Just about as bad: The day after McCain announced his cancer diagnosis/prognosis, she publicly urged McCain to step down, and the Governor to appoint her to his seat (Her rationale was because she had lost to McCain in the Primary, she should be the one to take his place). One of the the poorest political moves I've ever seen.
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Just about as bad: The day after McCain announced his cancer diagnosis/prognosis, she publicly urged McCain to step down, and the Governor to appoint her to his seat (Her rationale was because she had lost to McCain in the Primary, she should be the one to take his place). One of the the poorest political moves I've ever seen.
Poor timing, if nothing else. That would be forgotten but what's in the post above yours is more concerning.
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Poor timing, if nothing else. That would be forgotten but what's in the post above yours is more concerning.
I saw some videos (yes legit videos) of her holding hearings about Chemtrails. To me every time I hear about Chemtrails, I think what Art Bell or Alex Jones would talk about.
Again, those are legit videos.
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I saw some videos (yes legit videos) of her holding hearings about Chemtrails. To me every time I hear about Chemtrails, I think what Art Bell or Alex Jones would talk about.
Again, those are legit videos.
She's a State Senator, so there's a trail to look at. But, I think the brain cancer faux pas is far more dangerous than you may think. There is a large population of older people in this state, and they're very sensitive to young whippersnappers trying to push them out of their places before they're ready. Not saying McCain shouldn't be pushed out (he should, he's been ready for a couple decades), but I'm talking about the voters, many of whom didn't care one way or another about Ward before.
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She's a State Senator, so there's a trail to look at. But, I think the brain cancer faux pas is far more dangerous than you may think. There is a large population of older people in this state, and they're very sensitive to young whippersnappers trying to push them out of their places before they're ready. Not saying McCain shouldn't be pushed out (he should, he's been ready for a couple decades), but I'm talking about the voters, many of whom didn't care one way or another about Ward before.
That is true. However her statement about old people and her Chemtrail hearings already gave Dems ammunition to hang her. I'm sure there is more.
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I saw some videos (yes legit videos) of her holding hearings about Chemtrails. To me every time I hear about Chemtrails, I think what Art Bell or Alex Jones would talk about.
Again, those are legit videos.
From Karl Rove's column in this morning's WSJ:
As a state senator, Ms. Ward held a June 2014 town hall to explore the claim that jet contrails are really chemicals sprayed by the government for weather, mind or population control. She later expressed no regrets about hosting this conspiracy confab, saying elected officials are supposed to "listen to the people" and "get them the information they need to feel confident that they live in a safe environment." Ms. Ward has praised Edward Snowden, who fled the U.S. in 2013 and has been charged with espionage. She supports eliminating the Patriot Act, which provides vital tools to combat Islamic terrorism.
It seems like Kelli Ward's the real Flake!
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From Karl Rove's column in this morning's WSJ:
It seems like Kelli Ward's the real Flake!
In my world she is a Flake. I guess the main question is can flakes like her win the seat? She might win the primary, but in the General Election she will lose. The fact that Bannon supports her says a lot about him.
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"Witches and now Aliens....oh my!"
IMO, a better vetting process is needed.
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On the up side, the McCain/Democrat smear machine has already aired out just about every issue with Ward. Bad as she looks now, it's not likely we'll see more dirt.
I just think she'll lose in the General. Kyrsten Sinema is the likely Dem opponent, and she's very attractive to the Rats. Sinema has a good chance even if Flake wins. She's likely to bring up how Flake got his kid off on the animal cruelty charges for letting a kennel full of dogs die a couple years back, something Ward is not likely to do because the County Prosecutor involved is an (R).
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@Cyber Liberty
Is there not one decent person in the entire state of Arizona willing to take on Jeff Flake in the primary?
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On the up side, the McCain/Democrat smear machine has already aired out just about every issue with Ward. Bad as she looks now, it's not likely we'll see more dirt.
I just think she'll lose in the General. Kyrsten Sinema is the likely Dem opponent, and she's very attractive to the Rats. Sinema has a good chance even if Flake wins. She's likely to bring up how Flake got his kid off on the animal cruelty charges for letting a kennel full of dogs die a couple years back, something Ward is not likely to do because the County Prosecutor involved is an (R).
I imagine the seat is loss if that is the case. I'm sure the Democrats have a lot more on Ward.
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@Cyber Liberty
Is there not one decent person in the entire state of Arizona willing to take on Jeff Flake in the primary?
Jeff Flake is a conservative in the grand tradition of Barry Goldwater. I'd think we could all rally around him - especially given the stakes.
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@Cyber Liberty
Is there not one decent person in the entire state of Arizona willing to take on Jeff Flake in the primary?
I don't know. The Mormons are unified behind "their guy," and are always a monolithic block in AZ Republican politics. There are other candidates besides Ward (I liked DeWitt, the State Treasurer), but now that Trump's goon is behind Ward they'll never get any traction. I imagine DeWitt's gone already.
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Jeff Flake is a conservative in the grand tradition of Barry Goldwater. I'd think we could all rally around him - especially given the stakes.
You would. Did Goldwater ever lie to the voters about Term Limits as Flake did?
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I don't know. The Mormons are unified behind "their guy," and are always a monolithic block in AZ Republican politics. There are other candidates besides Ward (I liked DeWitt, the State Treasurer), but now that Trump's goon is behind Ward they'll never get any traction. I imagine DeWitt's gone already.
Wasn't aware there are other candidates besides Ward and Flake. Good to know! Thanks!
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Wasn't aware there are other candidates besides Ward and Flake. Good to know! Thanks!
I know AZGOP like you know TX, friend....
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I know AZGOP like you know TX, friend....
888high58888 I'm quite sure!
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You would. Did Goldwater ever lie to the voters about Term Limits as Flake did?
So the stakes aren't important to you? I guess not.
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So the stakes aren't important to you? I guess not.
As a voter, being told a bald-face lie through his teeth is important to me. Aren't bald-face lying politicians important to you? I guess not.
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So the stakes aren't important to you? I guess not.
Jeff Flake pulled strings with the Maricopa County Prosecutor to get his kid off the hook for animal cruelty charges stemming from allowing 23 dogs to die in the AZ heat when the Air Conditioning for the kennel failed because of his negligence. Is that important to you? I guess not.
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From Karl Rove's column in this morning's WSJ:
It seems like Kelli Ward's the real Flake!
Are you saying that the chemtrails are NOT mind control devices. !! Well, heck, who knew.
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Jeff Flake pulled strings with the Maricopa County Prosecutor to get his kid off the hook for animal cruelty charges stemming from allowing 23 dogs to die in the AZ heat when the Air Conditioning for the kennel failed because of his negligence. Is that important to you? I guess not.
Okay, that is very important and inexcusable. So I'm back with Ward, she may be nutty but not cruel.
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Jeff Flake pulled strings with the Maricopa County Prosecutor to get his kid off the hook for animal cruelty charges stemming from allowing 23 dogs to die in the AZ heat when the Air Conditioning for the kennel failed because of his negligence. Is that important to you? I guess not.
Is a modicum of honesty and fairness important to you? I guess not.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2016/07/12/roberts-did-arpaio-set-up-sen-jeff-flakes-son-green-acre-case/86997856/
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Is a modicum of honesty and fairness important to you? I guess not.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2016/07/12/roberts-did-arpaio-set-up-sen-jeff-flakes-son-green-acre-case/86997856/
Laurie Roberts? :silly: :rolling:
Is that all you got? I haven't believed a word that biased POS has written in at least 25 years. No, I believe the customers of Flake's kid, who got screwed out of their day in Court because the Prosecutor's office played shenanigans with the Court Calendar.
Go ahead and lap up what lefties tell you, though. I would not deprive you of sustenance. I know that's important to you.
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@Jazzhead you've been called on your feeble media links, and you are afraid to answer. I laugh at you.
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@Jazzhead you've been called on your feeble media links, and you are afraid to answer. I laugh at you.
I'm from Philly, not Arizona. If all you can say is you think the local reporter is a "biased POS", why should that possibly cause me to respond? I don't give a flip about your opinions of some local reporter. I don't give a flip, honestly, about your opinions in general. Plenty of folks here have my respect, and I read their posts with interest. You're not one of them.
What do you dispute, substantively, about the story?
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I'm from Philly, not Arizona. If all you can say is you think the local reporter is a "biased POS", why should that possibly cause me to respond? I don't give a flip about your opinions of some local reporter. I don't give a flip, honestly, about your opinions in general. Plenty of folks here have my respect, and I read their posts with interest. You're not one of them.
What do you dispute, substantively, about the story?
It would take a 16 page dissertation to explain what's wrong with that writer, and a few more to explain what's wrong with that article. I would begin by pointing out she's not a reporter, she's an editorial writer.
You mind is already made up, and you will fabricate whatever you need to refute what I write, so it would have been a waste of time. I fully expected the reply I just quoted. Believe whatever you want. It's my vote that counts, not yours.
Since you have no respect for my posts, why am I not on ignore, anyway? As for people respecting yours, I'd love to see some sort of study on that, you have a highly inflated sense of value. As the resident left-wing crackpot, people read your comments out of a morbid curiosity that you can even form words.
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It would take a 16 page dissertation to explain what's wrong with that writer, and a few more to explain what's wrong with that article. I would begin by pointing out she's not a reporter, she's an editorial writer.
You mind is already made up, and you will fabricate whatever you need to refute what I write, so it would have been a waste of time. I fully expected the reply I just quoted. Believe whatever you want. It's my vote that counts, not yours.
Since you have no respect for my posts, why am I not on ignore, anyway? As for people respecting yours, I'd love to see some sort of study on that, you have a highly inflated sense of value. As the resident left-wing crackpot, people read your comments out of a morbid curiosity that you can even form words.
I read them not at all unless someone else quotes one as you did! Just sayin! :whistle:
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It would take a 16 page dissertation to explain what's wrong with that writer, and a few more to explain what's wrong with that article. I would begin by pointing out she's not a reporter, she's an editorial writer.
You mind is already made up, and you will fabricate whatever you need to refute what I write, so it would have been a waste of time. I fully expected the reply I just quoted. Believe whatever you want. It's my vote that counts, not yours.
Since you have no respect for my posts, why am I not on ignore, anyway? As for people respecting yours, I'd love to see some sort of study on that, you have a highly inflated sense of value. As the resident left-wing crackpot, people read your comments out of a morbid curiosity that you can even form words.
I've never placed anyone on ignore. Not my style. I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read what I write, and respond. Agree or disagree, I read 'em all. And every word I write is simply my opinion, as honestly expressed as I can make it. I've been called a left-wing crackpot and a right-wing nutjob. That I hear it from both sides is music to my ears. The solutions to our problems lie in engagement, not retreating behind ideological labels and clichés.
The spirit of true debate is what animates me. It has been ever since I was introduced to it when I was a member of the Political Union at college. I get so many thoughtful responses to what I post, along with the whiners and trash-talkers. The many folks I respect here are what keep me hanging around. I'm sorry that you haven't managed to drive me away yet. Keep trying.
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I read them not at all unless someone else quotes one as you did! Just sayin! :whistle:
I'm sure you are in good company on that. *****rollingeyes*****
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I've never placed anyone on ignore. Not my style. I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read what I write, and respond. Agree or disagree, I read 'em all. And every word I write is simply my opinion, as honestly expressed as I can make it. I've been called a left-wing crackpot and a right-wing nutjob. That I hear it from both sides is music to my ears. The solutions to our problems lie in engagement, not retreating behind ideological labels and clichés.
The spirit of true debate is what animates me. It has been ever since I was introduced to it when I was a member of the Political Union at college. I get so many thoughtful responses to what I post, along with the whiners and trash-talkers. The many folks I respect here are what keep me hanging around. I'm sorry that you haven't managed to drive me away yet. Keep trying.
Be that as it may, I'm not going to waste time explaining to you why an article, written by an editorial writer, about Sheriff Joe Arpaio (not Flake or his kid) is irrelevant to the discussion. We'd end up having one of your worthless "debates" on the article, not the case.
I'm so glad you love your debating style. Somebody should. Personally, I find your circle-talk style boring and unmoving. I'm still wondering why you bother, when you've made it so clear you have no respect for me anyway. Life's too short to deal with self-important leftist creeps who don't respect me anyway. Now scoot.
There are too many people who matter that need to hear about what I have to say. Some jackass in Philly doesn't make the list.
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Some jackass in Philly doesn't make the list.
If that's how you feel you need to respond, so be it. But if you're ever in Philly, I'll be pleased to pour you a dram of my best bourbon.
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Why would I share a drink of fine Bourbon with somebody who's declared he doesn't respect me? No.
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It would take a 16 page dissertation to explain what's wrong with that writer, and a few more to explain what's wrong with that article. I would begin by pointing out she's not a reporter, she's an editorial writer.
You mind is already made up, and you will fabricate whatever you need to refute what I write, so it would have been a waste of time. I fully expected the reply I just quoted. Believe whatever you want. It's my vote that counts, not yours.
Since you have no respect for my posts, why am I not on ignore, anyway? As for people respecting yours, I'd love to see some sort of study on that, you have a highly inflated sense of value. As the resident left-wing crackpot, people read your comments out of a morbid curiosity that you can even form words.
@Cyber Liberty
He's in knee jerk response mode. If you're against it...he must be for it.
It's the whole enemy of my enemy thing.
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Jeff Flake, Arizona’s junior senator, scores 53 out of 100 on Conservative Review's Liberty Scale.
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Why would I share a drink of fine Bourbon with somebody who's declared he doesn't respect me? No.
Should I respect someone as graceless as you?
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If I was in AZ I would vote for Flake. Not some dips**t who holds tax payer funded hearings over Chemtrails.
As for the Liberty score by the Conservative review. Sorry I don't trust them with a 10 foot pole.
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If I was in AZ I would vote for Flake. Not some dips**t who holds tax payer funded hearings over Chemtrails.
As for the Liberty score by the Conservative review. Sorry I don't trust them with a 10 foot pole.
If I lived in Arizona my vote would cancel yours out!
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As soon as the heat lets up my wife and I are heading to AZ to see the chemtrails.
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If I lived in Arizona my vote would cancel yours out!
I'm the one with a vote. Heh.
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As soon as the heat lets up my wife and I are heading to AZ to see the chemtrails.
They're PURTY this time of the year!
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If that's how you feel you need to respond, so be it. But if you're ever in Philly, I'll be pleased to pour you a dram of my best bourbon.
I have a good friend from Philly. He says Will Smith was an annoying little kid in his neighborhood back when he was young.