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Title: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: mystery-ak on January 17, 2020, 03:32:59 pm
Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
By Morgan Chalfant and Brett Samuels - 01/17/20 10:19 AM EST

President Trump’s impeachment defense team for his upcoming Senate trial will include Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr, sources confirmed to The Hill on Friday.

Starr worked as independent counsel investigating former President Bill Clinton on allegations that ultimately led to his impeachment. Dershowitz, a Harvard law professor who opposed Clinton’s impeachment, has defended clients such as Jeffrey Epstein and O.J. Simpson.

Starr and Dershowitz have made regular television appearances defending Trump against the House case for impeachment throughout the impeachment proceeding, a key factor for a president who values media savvy.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/478745-trump-to-add-dershowitz-ken-starr-to-impeachment-defense-team
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: mystery-ak on January 17, 2020, 03:33:34 pm
I am hoping Trump adds Turley too!
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: verga on January 17, 2020, 04:01:37 pm
Damn good choices.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: rangerrebew on January 17, 2020, 04:24:26 pm

Trump's Impeachment Defense Team to Include Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz

    2020-01-17 Source: TTN by: TTN Staff
 

President Trump's impeachment defense team will now include two rockstar lawyers. It has been announced that Clinton prosecutor Ken Starr and Harvard professor and Epstein lawyer Alan Dershowitz will both join the team to defend President Trump.

According to CNBC:

    President Donald Trump’s impeachment defense team will include Ken Starr, whose investigation led to the impeachment of President Bill Clinton, and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, whose clients have included notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

https://trumptrainnews.com/articles/trump-s-impeachment-defense-team-to-include-ken-starr-and-alan-dershowitz
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: mystery-ak on January 17, 2020, 04:26:19 pm
already posted
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: mystery-ak on January 17, 2020, 05:02:06 pm
GOOD NEWS! Ken Starr, Robert Ray and Democrat Alan Dershowitz Selected to Defense Team to Defend Trump at Sham Impeachment Trial
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/good-news-ken-starr-robert-ray-and-democrat-alan-dershowitz-selected-to-defense-team-to-defend-trump-at-sham-impeachment-trial/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/good-news-ken-starr-robert-ray-and-democrat-alan-dershowitz-selected-to-defense-team-to-defend-trump-at-sham-impeachment-trial/)


Robert Ray another good choice...
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: aligncare on January 17, 2020, 05:08:38 pm
Would it be too provocative to say Trump hires only the best?
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: XenaLee on January 17, 2020, 05:21:56 pm
Would it be too provocative to say Trump hires only the best?

It would definitely be untrue.... considering all of the "bad hires" (Omarosa?  Scaramucci?  Sessions?)...

so why would you want to lie?
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: aligncare on January 17, 2020, 05:26:14 pm
I see I chose wisely then.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: XenaLee on January 17, 2020, 05:32:45 pm
I see I chose wisely then.

No.   Not really.   I would have said that Trump tries and seeks to hire only the best.   Which is true.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: aligncare on January 17, 2020, 05:41:59 pm
No.   Not really.   I would have said that Trump tries and seeks to hire only the best.   Which is true.

Now, there’s a rousing campaign slogan Trump should have used: “I’ll try to hire the best.”  :smokin:
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: XenaLee on January 17, 2020, 05:48:29 pm
Now, there’s a rousing campaign slogan Trump should have used: “I’ll try to hire the best.”  :smokin:

Well, realistically.... that's a no-brainer....since most would-be presidents or presidents would naturally try to hire the best.   But claiming that you always do hire the best is just setting yourself up for failure.... considering that you have no control over that employee or staffer, ultimately.  If it turns out that they suck at their job, it is what it is.   As far as him hiring Omarosa.... I knew from the get go she would not only suck, but would turn on him like she did.  That too was a "no-brainer", IMO.   Oh well...
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: libertybele on January 17, 2020, 06:24:43 pm
All liberals.  He has one of the best sitting in the Senate chambers; Ted Cruz.  Dershowitz himself called him brilliant.  It really is a shame.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: verga on January 17, 2020, 06:29:45 pm
All liberals.  He has one of the best sitting in the Senate chambers; Ted Cruz.  Dershowitz himself called him brilliant.  It really is a shame.
If cruz were to be his lawyer he would not be able to vote. Given the current ratio of R v. D loosing Cruz would give to much power to Romney, Murkowski and Collins.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 17, 2020, 06:33:38 pm
If cruz were to be his lawyer he would not be able to vote. Given the current ratio of R v. D loosing Cruz would give to much power to Romney, Murkowski and Collins.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 17, 2020, 06:37:03 pm
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Scott Adams
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Good luck to the other side. They will need a lot of it against this team.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOf0PyHU0AA1g_w.jpg)

8:37 AM - 17 Jan 2020

http://www.unfrozencave.org/f28-Live-Threads-for-Hearings.html (http://www.unfrozencave.org/f28-Live-Threads-for-Hearings.html)

These additions to the team are excellent choices!
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: aligncare on January 17, 2020, 06:41:04 pm
All liberals.  He has one of the best sitting in the Senate chambers; Ted Cruz.  Dershowitz himself called him brilliant.  It really is a shame.

Sure, Dershowitz is a self identified liberal. But, he also identifies as a constitutional liberal. And he has a track record calling out democrats when they’re wrong on the constitution. As in this case.

Beyond that, there’s a significant chasm between America’s liberals, and leftists who themselves support the goals of the international Left and the UN globalists.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 17, 2020, 06:42:53 pm
All liberals.  He has one of the best sitting in the Senate chambers; Ted Cruz.  Dershowitz himself called him brilliant.  It really is a shame.

No, they're not all "liberals".  Each fills a gap in the team very well....including Dershowitz.  He adds what Pelosi's team has so sorely lacked:  a bi-partisan agreement that the Schitt show lacks all Constitutional credibility and reduces impeachment of a President to what the Founders tried to prevent:  Using impeachment as a political weapon.



Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: skeeter on January 17, 2020, 06:43:59 pm
All liberals.  He has one of the best sitting in the Senate chambers; Ted Cruz.  Dershowitz himself called him brilliant.  It really is a shame.

So was Jonathan Turley. Being an honest human being well versed in Constitutional law is the only qualification to be successful in this job.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: libertybele on January 17, 2020, 06:44:24 pm
If cruz were to be his lawyer he would not be able to vote. Given the current ratio of R v. D loosing Cruz would give to much power to Romney, Murkowski and Collins.

Gottcha.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: libertybele on January 17, 2020, 06:47:48 pm
These additions to the team are excellent choices!

The only other one besides Starr and Dershowitz that I am familiar with is Bondi -- not a fan.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: mystery-ak on January 17, 2020, 07:13:57 pm
So was Jonathan Turley. Being an honest human being well versed in Constitutional law is the only qualification to be successful in this job.

I like Turley and was hoping he would join the team...
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: EdinVA on January 17, 2020, 07:14:57 pm
All of them are smart, but can they fight like their life depended on it.. will they dig...

Lotsa academic knowledge but....
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: skeeter on January 17, 2020, 07:25:46 pm
I like Turley and was hoping he would join the team...

Turley's an honest, old fashioned liberal. Not the variety of lying ends-justifies-the-means type that predominates today.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: PeteS in CA on January 17, 2020, 07:30:07 pm
Damn good choices.

Starr comes with quite an endorsement! https://pjmedia.com/trending/monica-lewinsky-outraged-as-ken-starr-joins-trump-impeachment-defense-team/

That female should just change her name to Jane Smith and never wear blue dresses.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: roamer_1 on January 17, 2020, 07:45:57 pm
Sure, Dershowitz is a self identified liberal. But, he also identifies as a constitutional liberal. And he has a track record calling out democrats when they’re wrong on the constitution. As in this case.

I will agree. Dershowitz's politics aside, when it comes to his profession his politics ARE aside, and I can respect him for that.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 17, 2020, 07:46:34 pm
The only other one besides Starr and Dershowitz that I am familiar with is Bondi -- not a fan.

Bondi's not new .. she's been advising the team for a while.  The new members are Starr, Dershowitz and Ray.  Jane Raskin, who was part of the President's legal team during the Mueller investigation, is also now officially part of the team. 

Bondi's one of many .... and the other members must see value in her contributions.



Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: verga on January 17, 2020, 10:11:36 pm
All of them are smart, but can they fight like their life depended on it.. will they dig...

Lotsa academic knowledge but....
Starr and the Dersh are the love children of a Rottweiler, Dobi, and Pit bull mixed in with the Constitution. The rest are damn good researchers. This is the OJ Simpson dream team on steroids.
 
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: mystery-ak on January 17, 2020, 11:06:38 pm
'I will be there for one hour, basically': Dershowitz distances himself from Trump impeachment defense team
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/i-will-be-there-for-one-hour-basically-dershowitz-distances-himself-trump-impeachment-defense-team (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/i-will-be-there-for-one-hour-basically-dershowitz-distances-himself-trump-impeachment-defense-team)
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: mystery-ak on January 17, 2020, 11:08:08 pm
New impeachment lawyer Alan Dershowitz predicted Trump will block Bolton testimony

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-impeachment-lawyer-alan-dershowitz-predicted-trump-will-block-bolton-testimony (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-impeachment-lawyer-alan-dershowitz-predicted-trump-will-block-bolton-testimony)
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: WhatWouldReaganDo on January 17, 2020, 11:53:16 pm
The only other one besides Starr and Dershowitz that I am familiar with is Bondi -- not a fan.
Maybe Trump thinks that she owes him. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-pam-bondi-candidate-dismisses-questions-around-donation-tied-n643211 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-pam-bondi-candidate-dismisses-questions-around-donation-tied-n643211)
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 18, 2020, 03:51:02 am
All liberals.  He has one of the best sitting in the Senate chambers; Ted Cruz.  Dershowitz himself called him brilliant.  It really is a shame.

Dershowitz is a liberal sleaze bag friend of Jeffrey Epstein. 
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Applewood on January 18, 2020, 12:42:15 pm
I'm wondering why Trump needs to beef up his defense team.  The fix is in and he's going to be acquitted. 
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: mystery-ak on January 18, 2020, 03:25:53 pm
Dershowitz says he's not taking money for work on Trump legal team
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/478908-dershowitz-says-hes-not-taking-money-for-work-on-trump-legal-team
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: aligncare on January 18, 2020, 03:50:12 pm
Dershowitz says he's not taking money for work on Trump legal team
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/478908-dershowitz-says-hes-not-taking-money-for-work-on-trump-legal-team

Yep. It’s not about the money for Dershowitz, it’s about the constitution and democrats’ abuse.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 18, 2020, 07:02:44 pm
I will agree. Dershowitz's politics aside, when it comes to his profession his politics ARE aside, and I can respect him for that.

I read an article today.  He isn't voting for Trump in 2020.  He said he is a liberal and he is going to vote Democrat.  Said he is only answering as to the Constitutional matter.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: roamer_1 on January 18, 2020, 07:04:59 pm
I read an article today.  He isn't voting for Trump in 2020.  He said he is a liberal and he is going to vote Democrat.  Said he is only answering as to the Constitutional matter.

Sure he is. I readily admit his liberalism. I don't know about his supposed ties to Epstein. But I DO know that he falls on the side of the angels when it comes to originalism in Constitutional law, more often than not.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on January 18, 2020, 07:23:19 pm
Dershowitz is a liberal sleaze bag friend of Jeffrey Epstein.

Epstein, OJ, Weinstein...if you're an evil scumsucker, and guilty as hell, Dershowitz is a perfect lawyer for you.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Absalom on January 18, 2020, 07:29:47 pm
No.   Not really.   I would have said that Trump tries and seeks to hire only the best.   Which is true.
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Hmm..........such as Manafort, Tillerson, Scaramucci, McMaster, Spicer, Price, Sessions, Giuliani,
Amarosa, to name a mere handful.
My oh my, he sure has the touch, don't he???
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 18, 2020, 07:40:47 pm
Sure he is. I readily admit his liberalism. I don't know about his supposed ties to Epstein. But I DO know that he falls on the side of the angels when it comes to originalism in Constitutional law, more often than not.

Your probably right about Constitutional law.  I wouldn't trust a liberal as far as I could throw them.  I find the guy about as sleazy as it comes.  He has already cashed in on Trump writing books.  He is going to cash in on this impeachment also.  Book in the works I am sure.  Wouldn't it be ironic if he was the Dems Ace in the hole?

Oh, sorry.  The books have already been written.  They are about the impeachment.

https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Impeaching-Trump/dp/151074228X (https://www.amazon.com/Case-Against-Impeaching-Trump/dp/151074228X)
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: roamer_1 on January 18, 2020, 07:41:57 pm
Wouldn't it be ironic if he was the Dems Ace in the hole?

Not as much as if he is Tumps.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 18, 2020, 10:06:46 pm
I'm wondering why Trump needs to beef up his defense team.  The fix is in and he's going to be acquitted.

Do you disagree with an acquittal @Applewood

Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Applewood on January 19, 2020, 12:02:18 am
Do you disagree with an acquittal @Applewood

Honestly, @Right_in_Virginia I really don't care.  As far as I'm concerned, this impeachment is theater.   All scripted like reality tv..  Designed for everyone concerned to  hopefully benefit politically by appealing to their bases.   The Democrats can tell their voters that they are making a major effort to get rid of that bad orange guy in the White House.  Trump and the Republicans can fire up their base by pretending to defend against the "coup," the "witch hunt," that evil "Deep State" that's trying to destroy the Republic.  Or something. 

As scripted, Trump will be victorious.  He can go around the country telling his fans he vanquished the enemy.  The Democrats won't exactly be losers either.  They can tell their voters that they tried their best, but they were stymied by the Republican majority in the senate.  This will be a good selling point because then the Democrats can say to the voters -- what we need is a Democrat majority n the senate.  So vote Democrat and when we take over both houses of congress, we can try again.  This time we will be victorious!

 *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: FeelNoPain on January 19, 2020, 12:06:45 am
Honestly, @Right_in_Virginia I really don't care.  As far as I'm concerned, this impeachment is theater.   All scripted like reality tv..  Designed for everyone concerned to  hopefully benefit politically by appealing to their bases.   The Democrats can tell their voters that they are making a major effort to get rid of that bad orange guy in the White House.  Trump and the Republicans can fire up their base by pretending to defend against the "coup," the "witch hunt," that evil "Deep State" that's trying to destroy the Republic.  Or something. 

As scripted, Trump will be victorious.  He can go around the country telling his fans he vanquished the enemy.  The Democrats won't exactly be losers either.  They can tell their voters that they tried their best, but they were stymied by the Republican majority in the senate.  This will be a good selling point because then the Democrats can say to the voters -- what we need is a Democrat majority n the senate.  So vote Democrat and when we take over both houses of congress, we can try again.  This time we will be victorious!

 *****rollingeyes*****

 :amen:
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Chosen Daughter on January 19, 2020, 01:49:11 am
Honestly, @Right_in_Virginia I really don't care.  As far as I'm concerned, this impeachment is theater.   All scripted like reality tv..  Designed for everyone concerned to  hopefully benefit politically by appealing to their bases.   The Democrats can tell their voters that they are making a major effort to get rid of that bad orange guy in the White House.  Trump and the Republicans can fire up their base by pretending to defend against the "coup," the "witch hunt," that evil "Deep State" that's trying to destroy the Republic.  Or something. 

As scripted, Trump will be victorious.  He can go around the country telling his fans he vanquished the enemy.  The Democrats won't exactly be losers either.  They can tell their voters that they tried their best, but they were stymied by the Republican majority in the senate.  This will be a good selling point because then the Democrats can say to the voters -- what we need is a Democrat majority n the senate.  So vote Democrat and when we take over both houses of congress, we can try again.  This time we will be victorious!

 *****rollingeyes*****

Absolute truth!!!!
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: roamer_1 on January 19, 2020, 01:51:11 am
Honestly, @Right_in_Virginia I really don't care.  As far as I'm concerned, this impeachment is theater.   All scripted like reality tv..  Designed for everyone concerned to  hopefully benefit politically by appealing to their bases.   The Democrats can tell their voters that they are making a major effort to get rid of that bad orange guy in the White House.  Trump and the Republicans can fire up their base by pretending to defend against the "coup," the "witch hunt," that evil "Deep State" that's trying to destroy the Republic.  Or something. 

As scripted, Trump will be victorious.  He can go around the country telling his fans he vanquished the enemy.  The Democrats won't exactly be losers either.  They can tell their voters that they tried their best, but they were stymied by the Republican majority in the senate.  This will be a good selling point because then the Democrats can say to the voters -- what we need is a Democrat majority n the senate.  So vote Democrat and when we take over both houses of congress, we can try again.  This time we will be victorious!

 *****rollingeyes*****

Yeah, that's probably right.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 19, 2020, 03:14:55 am
Honestly, @Right_in_Virginia I really don't care. 

Good to know.  I'll factor this into your posts on impeachment going forward.

Appreciate your candor @Applewood
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on January 19, 2020, 04:54:37 am
Alan Dershowitz isn't anything close to a constitutional law conservative or originalist.  He's an unabashed supporter of the "living Constitution" idea, supported judicial activism in terms of gay marriage even while acknowledging the Constitution required no such thing, etc.. 

Dershowitz has defended Trump because support for Israel is a hugely important issue for him, and Trump is just much, much better than any of the Democrats on Israel.  So really, he's just an ally of convenience right now.  Which is still better than having an enemy.
Title: Re: Trump to add Dershowitz, Ken Starr to impeachment defense team
Post by: Applewood on January 19, 2020, 10:00:48 am
Good to know.  I'll factor this into your posts on impeachment going forward.

Appreciate your candor @Applewood

@Right_in_Virginia

In a few hours I will be departing for vacation on a sunny beach.  I do not intend to spend my time in a hotel room watching this farce on tv.  So I doubt you will see posts from me on this subject.  Actually, if you review my posting history, you will see I've said very little about it up to this point.  Much more entertaining watching people have a coronary over Harry and Meghan leaving the royal inner circle.