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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: mystery-ak on January 17, 2020, 03:24:21 pm
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Scott Morefield
Reporter
January 16, 2020 5:34 PM ET
A diverse gathering of pro-gun protestors set to descend upon Virginia’s capital on Monday could include an unlikely ally, a local antifa group.
In what Vice called a “bizarre meeting of the minds,†Richmond-based Antifa Seven Hills also strongly opposes the gun measures now likely to become law since Democrats won control of both Virginia houses last year, and they too want Democratic leaders in Richmond to know.
“I think it’s been pretty important for us to focus on the fact that gun control in America has a legacy of racist enforcement,†an Antifa Seven Hills spokesperson called James, a self-identified anarchist who withheld his real name for fear of getting doxxed, told Vice. “Like taking guns away from black people, because black people were perceived as a threat to property and the sanctity of the state.â€
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https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/16/antifa-group-march-pro-gun-protesters-virginia/
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This should end well. I'm not sure Antifa has correctly judged the mood of their intended target.
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This should end well. I'm not sure Antifa has correctly judged the mood of their intended target.
Yep... Millenial basement pajama boys whose joys in life revolve around video game releases vs. angry hardened gun owners.
Seems a little one sided to me too. :cool:
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Yep... Millenial basement pajama boys whose joys in life revolve around video game releases vs. angry hardened gun owners.
Seems a little one sided to me too. :cool:
Pretty clearly the left is trying to create another Charlottesville narrative here. Perfidious b*stards.
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Pretty clearly the left is trying to create another Charlottesville narrative here. Perfidious b*stards.
DING! DING! DING!
We have a Winner!
Exactly. Totalitarians don't want ordinary people to be armed. It's highly likely that this bunch (ANTIFA) will create an incident, include some nut in their ranks to cause one, or start some sht with the gun owners there.
At the very best, it's bad optics.
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Surely the Governor will amend his state of emergency to ban going masked and open carry of milkshakes
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Surely the Governor will amend his state of emergency to ban going masked and open carry of milkshakes
Especially concrete ones, with or without plastic straws.
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DING! DING! DING!
We have a Winner!
Exactly. Totalitarians don't want ordinary people to be armed. It's highly likely that this bunch (ANTIFA) will create an incident, include some nut in their ranks to cause one, or start some sht with the gun owners there.
At the very best, it's bad optics.
Lacking in imagination of any sort, the left always uses something that worked for them in the past as a model.
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Lacking in imagination of any sort, the left always uses something that worked for them in the past as a model.
...and will continue to do so until it doesn't work (usually on more than one occasion, not being given to changing tactics).
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Once upon a time you dressed so fine
you threw the bums a dime in your prime
Didn't yewwwwwww?
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IMHO the only reason the ANTIFA thugs are gonna show up is because Gov. Coonman declared a state of emergency and there won't be any guns allowed at the capitol.
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IMHO the only reason the ANTIFA thugs are gonna show up is because Gov. Coonman declared a state of emergency and there won't be any guns allowed at the capitol.
That won't stop them from bringing any.
Gun owners are going to have to be on their toes and ready to deal with any problems as quickly and peacefully as possible.
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That won't stop them from bringing any.
Gun owners are going to have to be on their toes and ready to deal with any problems as quickly and peacefully as possible.
You're right. I expect more than a few to bring their legally owned weapons anyway...and just not advertise the fact they are carrying.
And that will be bad news for any ANTIFA thug that decides to milkshake a Pro 2A person.
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DING! DING! DING!
We have a Winner!
Exactly. Totalitarians don't want ordinary people to be armed. It's highly likely that this bunch (ANTIFA) will create an incident, include some nut in their ranks to cause one, or start some sht with the gun owners there.
At the very best, it's bad optics.
The pro-gun protestors will undoubtedly have no illusions about the ulterior motives and intentions of the Antifa thugs and will, I'm confident, act accordingly. But just in case, stock up on popcorn. :pop41:
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You're right. I expect more than a few to bring their legally owned weapons anyway...and just not advertise the fact they are carrying.
And that will be bad news for any ANTIFA thug that decides to milkshake a Pro 2A person.
If ten antifa thugs are beating a grandmother to death, and one gets shot, you know what the headlines will be.
VIOLENCE AT GUN RALLY LEAVES 2 WOUNDED/DEAD!
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Please pray for the safety off all that are going to be there Monday.
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Please pray for the safety off all that are going to be there Monday.
Oh, I am.
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I would expect ANTIFA to be greatly outnumbered, and as long as they aren't allowed to intermingle, that would hopefully keep them in check.
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Mix a little whisky,and that should make or a fun after-party.
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DING! DING! DING!
We have a Winner!
Exactly. Totalitarians don't want ordinary people to be armed. It's highly likely that this bunch (ANTIFA) will create an incident, include some nut in their ranks to cause one, or start some sht with the gun owners there.
@Smokin Joe
"Possibility"? More like a certainty. Northam and the rest of the gun grabbers are far left radicals,and the Antifa are far left radicals. My money is on Northam using his contacts with the radical left to have them there to pull hidden guns and start shooting in order to get more support for his gun grabs.
Once the shooting starts,the only chance the gun owners that are there can hope to survive is to march on the Capitol and arrest the governor and his cabinet. They will have nothing to lose once ANTIFA starts shooting people at random and blames it on the NRA. Northam will declare martial law,call out the NG,and start using the military and local deputies to seize guns.
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@Smokin Joe
"Possibility"? More like a certainty. Northam and the rest of the gun grabbers are far left radicals,and the Antifa are far left radicals. My money is on Northam using his contacts with the radical left to have them there to pull hidden guns and start shooting in order to get more support for his gun grabs.
Once the shooting starts,the only chance the gun owners that are there can hope to survive is to march on the Capitol and arrest the governor and his cabinet. They will have nothing to lose once ANTIFA starts shooting people at random and blames it on the NRA. Northam will declare martial law,call out the NG,and start using the military and local deputies to seize guns.
You may be right, especially since Northam & Co. will have set up the legit protesters to be unarmed. We all know how "gun free" zones work out. There needs to be some strategy about interfaces between Gun groups and ANTIFA, best to have people who have vests in there.
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You may be right, especially since Northam & Co. will have set up the legit protesters to be unarmed. We all know how "gun free" zones work out. There needs to be some strategy about interfaces between Gun groups and ANTIFA, best to have people who have vests in there.
@Smokin Joe
And to think I was worried about getting bored in my old age!
Nothing but questions,like "Which of my 30 cals should I be checking over?"
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@Smokin Joe
And to think I was worried about getting bored in my old age!
Nothing but questions,like "Which of my 30 cals should I be checking over?"
Yeah, time to start working my upper body to get back the strength I lost when I dislocated my shoulders. My .30s are heavy critters, at least the very best are.
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You're right. I expect more than a few to bring their legally owned weapons anyway...and just not advertise the fact they are carrying.
And that will be bad news for any ANTIFA thug that decides to milkshake a Pro 2A person.
@txradioguy @Smokin Joe @sneakypete
Let’s just say: having a vested interest, I am planning on being there. The tenor of everything I’m seeing and hearing is that pretty much everyone is still planning on being armed. Especially because Northam’s Emerg Declaration is in violation of a 2012 Va Law expressly forbidding govt from infringing on the 2A when an emergency declaration is issued. (He’s skirting that by declaring Capitol Square a shelter)
The scuttlebutt says that the gov is limiting access to Capitol Square to one gate with a metal detector. They’ve already surrounded the rest of the square with fencing/barricades.
I’m betting that the lone access point and/or multiple sections of the barricade will be breached inside of about 15mins.
People here are pissed...like I have never seen.
Whole lot of folks are about to put the “I will not comply†to the test.
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You're right. I expect more than a few to bring their legally owned weapons anyway...and just not advertise the fact they are carrying.
And that will be bad news for any ANTIFA thug that decides to milkshake a Pro 2A person.
@txradioguy
And when a otherwise legal CCW carrier pulls out his concealed handgun and puts the ANTIFA clown down,Northam and the press will be screaming "SEE! THIS is why we need to confiscate guns! We need to do this before more innocent citizens are gunned down at peaceful marches by some NRA gunnut!
Any way it comes down,it is going to be turned into a lose-lose situation by Northam and the press. The vast majority only know what they see on their teebee 6 oclock news,and we ALL know how CBS,ABC,and NBC will report it,don't we?
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@txradioguy
And when a otherwise legal CCW carrier pulls out his concealed handgun and puts the ANTIFA clown down,Northam and the press will be screaming "SEE! THIS is why we need to confiscate guns! We need to do this before more innocent citizens are gunned down at peaceful marches by some NRA gunnut!
Any way it comes down,it is going to be turned into a lose-lose situation by Northam and the press. The vast majority only know what they see on their teebee 6 oclock news,and we ALL know how CBS,ABC,and NBC will report it,don't we?
That is my worst fear, and why I will not be carrying even if the appellate court rules against him.
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That is my worst fear,and why I will not be carrying even if the appellate court rules against him.
The bolder is why we lose. What do we operate from a position of fear? But I guess that’s your prerogative...
But when the milkshakes or clubs come out, I’d rather have it and not need it...
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I guess that’s your prerogative...
But when the milkshakes or clubs come out, I’d rather have it and not need it...
@Axeslinger
Personal experience has taught me that I tend to be a LOT more forgiving when I have my 44 in my pocket than when I don't. If I am unarmed and think you are going to try to cause me harm,I will NOT hesitate an instant to take your eyes or throat out. If I am armed,I am more likely to laugh at you while watching you closely.
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The bolder is why we lose. What do we operate from a position of fear? But I guess that’s your prerogative...
Agree. I think we've finally arrived at the point we need to take a stand or just accept what the left has planned for us.
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skeeter wrote:
"I think we've finally arrived at the point we need to take a stand or just accept what the left has planned for us."
You've summed up the situation that is about to come to a head in Virginia in one succinct sentence.
How far are the leftist democrat-communists willing to go there?
We KNOW what their goals are. And we KNOW how communists have behaved elsewhere.
Given that, how far are traditional, freedom-loving citizens willing to go in order to STOP them?
Will the democrat-communists of Virginia be stopped by [only] peaceful protests?
I'm not a betting man (I've never bought a single lottery ticket for myself in 70 years), but if I was, I WOULD NOT bet on that.
Just sayin'...
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skeeter wrote:
"I think we've finally arrived at the point we need to take a stand or just accept what the left has planned for us."
You've summed up the situation that is about to come to a head in Virginia in one succinct sentence.
How far are the leftist democrat-communists willing to go there?
We KNOW what their goals are. And we KNOW how communists have behaved elsewhere.
Given that, how far are traditional, freedom-loving citizens willing to go in order to STOP them?
Will the democrat-communists of Virginia be stopped by [only] peaceful protests?
I'm not a betting man (I've never bought a single lottery ticket for myself in 70 years), but if I was, I WOULD NOT bet on that.
Just sayin'...
In their stated intent to continue with measures peremptorily decried on a very wide basis within the state, I'd bet nothing anyone says will make a difference.
Those Democrat legislators who might waver from the totalitarian agenda will be denied any funds for reelection they themselves do not raise and will be met with strongly backed primary challenges, same as the threat made in the US House by Dems to those who mulled not voting to impeach Trump.
While a scant few may entertain the thought of standing fast with their constituents, most will see it as a losing game, at least for the current term, and perhaps as losing in the future anyway. For politicians to do the right thing in the face of such is rare.
Right now, yes, the idea of standing up for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is essential to America and Virginia as well.
With the intent of ANTIFA to be present (something I would never trust), and the possible insertion of paid "crisis actors", the situation as it stands is ripe for exploitation by a few paid agitators and miscreants who would create an incident with others or worse yet pull off some sort of false flag operation to guarantee those who come to rally for their Rights are painted with the worst brush possible.
Those whose policies are the subject of this rally will see this as an opportunity, correctly handled, to further their agenda, not as cause to back down.
Are there people among the anti-gunners who would commit some atrocity in this rally?
Let's look at the "Water Protectors" protesting the completion of a pipeline, a pipeline which has only experienced leaks because someone intentionally damaged it (yep, an environmental protest group). During that protest, three separate pipeline valve enclosures were broken into and valves on active pipelines tampered with in an apparent attempt to cause a disaster so those protesting the completion of the pipeline would have justification for their own destructive and environmentally damaging actions.
They are all Leftists, and their Modus operandi are cut from the same cloth. If there isn't the problem they say there is, they will create it in order to be justified in whatever their goals are. We have seen this time and again. For the most part, that revolves around doing one thing (like attacking police with molotov cocktails) and claiming victimhood in press releases (it was cold and they sprayed us with fire hoses). It will take a lot of video to deny the Left that.
It will only take one violent incident, and this will be trotted out as damning justification for whatever the Governor wants.
That means attendees ALL have to avoid such, and even then, that might not be enough. For all we know, there might be a group willing to have an incident among themselves, some posing as rallygoers who are not of the Left.
Is that reason to not attend?
No.
Just reason to be acutely aware of anything that might be able to be painted in a bad light, any provocation, and for everyone to dampen their aggravation and mind their 'parlor manners' to deny the enemy those optics. I hope there will be a lot of body cams present, people streaming video, hopefully to off site locations. Stay with the group, people you know, and may Almighty God send His Angels to watch over and guide all those on the side of Right.
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The bolder is why we lose. What do we operate from a position of fear? But I guess that’s your prerogative...
But when the milkshakes or clubs come out, I’d rather have it and not need it...
I never said I would be unarmed, just not carrying a gun. the VCDL is looking for 10,000 of us to be inside the fence. You are not permitted to carry a firearm inside the fence. Easy decision to make when you take that into account.
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How far are the leftist democrat-communists willing to go there?
We KNOW what their goals are. And we KNOW how communists have behaved elsewhere.
@Fishrrman
"They" are willing to go all the way to Civil War if necessary because the elites in the leadership roles like that vagina named Northam and their families will NEVER be put at risk because they live in mansions with security fences,and have state police bodyguards,as well as private bodyguards.
Suffering and dying is for the peasant working classes,don'tyaknow?
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If ten antifa thugs are beating a grandmother to death, and one gets shot, you know what the headlines will be.
VIOLENCE AT GUN RALLY LEAVES 2 WOUNDED/DEAD!
That's exactly what the media is hoping for.
Wouldn't surprise me if the headlines aren't already written.
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@txradioguy @Smokin Joe @sneakypete
Let’s just say: having a vested interest, I am planning on being there. The tenor of everything I’m seeing and hearing is that pretty much everyone is still planning on being armed. Especially because Northam’s Emerg Declaration is in violation of a 2012 Va Law expressly forbidding govt from infringing on the 2A when an emergency declaration is issued. (He’s skirting that by declaring Capitol Square a shelter)
The scuttlebutt says that the gov is limiting access to Capitol Square to one gate with a metal detector. They’ve already surrounded the rest of the square with fencing/barricades.
I’m betting that the lone access point and/or multiple sections of the barricade will be breached inside of about 15mins.
People here are pissed...like I have never seen.
Whole lot of folks are about to put the “I will not comply†to the test.
Be safe and watch your six.
Let us know how it goes.
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@Axeslinger
Just exactly what time are the festivities scheduled to begin? Will the teebee coverage begin then also,or will it start earlier?
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@sneakypete
Everything you ever wanted to know:
https://www.vcdl.org/resources/Defender/SPECIAL%20ISSUE%20FINAL.pdf (https://www.vcdl.org/resources/Defender/SPECIAL%20ISSUE%20FINAL.pdf)
Also info available at
www.vcdl.org (http://www.vcdl.org)
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@sneakypete
Everything you ever wanted to know:
https://www.vcdl.org/resources/Defender/SPECIAL%20ISSUE%20FINAL.pdf (https://www.vcdl.org/resources/Defender/SPECIAL%20ISSUE%20FINAL.pdf)
Also info available at
www.vcdl.org (http://www.vcdl.org)
@Axeslinger
I wish you all well,and hope nothing happens to disrupt your plans.
BTW,I HAVE to ask. "What are the restrictions on carrying an axe?"
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@Axeslinger
I wish you all well,and hope nothing happens to disrupt your plans.
BTW,I HAVE to ask. "What are the restrictions on carrying an axe?"
I think the best bet would be an easily detached protest sign on a 3-5' hardwood handle.
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@sneakypete
Everything you ever wanted to know:
https://www.vcdl.org/resources/Defender/SPECIAL%20ISSUE%20FINAL.pdf (https://www.vcdl.org/resources/Defender/SPECIAL%20ISSUE%20FINAL.pdf)
Also info available at
www.vcdl.org (http://www.vcdl.org)
Looking forward to seeing you there.
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@Axeslinger
I wish you all well,and hope nothing happens to disrupt your plans.
BTW,I HAVE to ask. "What are the restrictions on carrying an axe?"
@sneakypete
An axe handle, with or without the axe-head, is considered a "weapon." A baseball bat can also be considered a weapon, which is why any cop will tell you that if you are caught with one you'd better have a mitt and a ball on you too.
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@sneakypete
An axe handle, with or without the axe-head, is considered a "weapon." A baseball bat can also be considered a weapon, which is why any cop will tell you that if you are caught with one you'd better have a mitt and a ball on you too.
@Cyber Liberty
Yeah,but they can't keep you from having a good hardwood walking stick or cane.
@Axeslinger @Cyber Liberty
BTW,I was just teasing Axeslinger about his screen name in my first post about this. IOW,"The cops have restricted firearms,but what are they going to do about axes that can be thrown?"
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@Cyber Liberty
Yeah,but they can't keep you from having a good hardwood walking stick or cane.
That is correct. If you're going to carry a cane, make sure it has a heavy head, so you can flip it and make a Mace out of it.
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... Del. Gilbert is right when he says some individuals are going to try to subvert what your grassroots movement has created, and honestly, I’m as angry at them as I am at the lawmakers who are trying to infringe on our rights.
So let me now address those few individuals who may be planning on attending Lobby Day to do something other than peacefully lobby lawmakers to reject Governor Ralph Northam’s unconstitutional gun control agenda. You’re not needed, you’re not wanted, and you won’t be welcomed.
The gun owners of Virginia who are lobbying their lawmakers don’t believe that the right to keep and bear arms is a right of the Right, or a right of the whites, or of any other specific demographic. It is the right of the People to keep and bear arms that shall not be infringed. We are advocating for the human right of self defense and our constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms, and for nothing else. We stand together regardless of color, class, or creed in support of those rights. This is not an insurrection or a violent protest. This is not an opportunity to clash with anyone, whether it’s the alt-right or antifa. Lobby Day is an act of civic engagement on the part of thousands of Virginia residents. If you have any other agenda planned, don’t come at all. ...
An Open Letter To All Those Attending Virginia’s Lobby Day , by Cam Edwards (https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2020/01/19/open-letter-virginias-lobby-day/)
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Agree. I think we've finally arrived at the point we need to take a stand or just accept what the left has planned for us.
Yep. Virginia's Trojan Horse is inside the gates. It is time to decide which way it will go.
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It all seems to be going very well. Gun owners in Va. are presenting a good image to the rest of the country, and making their point strongly.
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It all seems to be going very well. Gun owners in Va. are presenting a good image to the rest of the country, and making their point strongly.
Bad part is the idiots in the media are trying to blatantly lie and manipulate the scene. NBC's Gabe Gutierrez posted a video clip already on Twitter stating that protesters were chanting "we will not comply"
If you actually listen to the clip they were saying The Pledge of Allegiance.
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Bad part is the idiots in the media are trying to blatantly lie and manipulate the scene. NBC's Gabe Gutierrez posted a video clip already on Twitter stating that protesters were chanting "we will not comply"
If you actually listen to the clip they were saying The Pledge of Allegiance.
From what I saw, they actually chanted both at various times. At least I hope they were, because I'm 100% in support of "we will not comply".
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From what I saw, they actually chanted both at various times. At least I hope they were, because I'm 100% in support of "we will not comply".
@Maj. Bill Martin
I couldn't agree more.
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From what I saw, they actually chanted both at various times. At least I hope they were, because I'm 100% in support of "we will not comply".
Yeah the reporter updated his video...but the original video he posted the people were reciting the Pledge.
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Saw my former Marine brother from Virginia Beach who was in town for our Mom's 90th.
He is so disgusted at the state that he is planning on moving to Florida and in order to keep his guns.
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Saw my former Marine brother from Virginia Beach who was in town for our Mom's 90th.
He is so disgusted at the state that he is planning on moving to Florida and in order to keep his guns.
Move to WV. We need more people of good character and are very, very gun-friendly.
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An African-American man waving a Trump flag jokingly tells the crowd: I am Gov. Ralph Northam and I am in blackface today.
https://twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1219286445942284290?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1219286445942284290&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsarahd-313035%2F2020%2F01%2F20%2Fput-that-on-the-news-gun-grabbing-gov-ralph-northam-made-a-surprise-appearance-at-richmond-gun-rights-rally-video%2F
:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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All these reports,and I have yet to see any reports of ANTIFA goons showing up and attacking people.
Gee,I wonder why?
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All these reports,and I have yet to see any reports of ANTIFA goons showing up and attacking people.
Gee,I wonder why?
Apparently Antifa was a no show. I've seen some tweets that the Rats are gloating because the RKBA folks had no Antifa to beat up, and that's why there was "no violence." You just can't win....
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Apparently Antifa was a no show. I've seen some tweets that the Rats are gloating because the RKBA folks had no Antifa to beat up, and that's why there was "no violence." You just can't win....
They found a free butt sex hostel to meet.
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They found a free butt sex hostel to meet.
It makes me wonder where the fancy buses came from, and who was on them. And paid for by whom?
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All these reports,and I have yet to see any reports of ANTIFA goons showing up and attacking people.
Gee,I wonder why?
Antifa doesn't have the balls to show up and cause trouble in a state where citizens are allowed to own guns. There was enough people carrying weapons in that crowd today that the Antifa thugs knew it wasn't in their best interest to try and "milk shake" anyone.
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Antifa doesn't have the balls to show up and cause trouble in a state where citizens are allowed to own guns. There was enough people carrying weapons in that crowd today that the Antifa thugs knew it wasn't in their best interest to try and "milk shake" anyone.
There isn't even a need to shoot somebody to cause hurt. I understand a rifle butt to the chin can smart.
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There isn't even a need to shoot somebody to cause hurt. I understand a rifle butt to the chin can smart.
So can the butt of my .45 or my .38 :laugh:
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So can the butt of my .45 or my .38 :laugh:
Exactly. :beer:
Hell, a handfull of quarters can add some serious punch to a serious punch.
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Antifa doesn't have the balls to show up and cause trouble in a state where citizens are allowed to own guns.
Word.
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Antifa doesn't have the balls to show up and cause trouble in a state where citizens are allowed to own guns. There was enough people carrying weapons in that crowd today that the Antifa thugs knew it wasn't in their best interest to try and "milk shake" anyone.
I think Antifa was there. There was a number of very nice buses on video this morning, they dressed to blend and disrupt, and thought better of the plan when they got a load of the good ol' boys waiting. It's also possible the cover story from Antifa was actually true, and they are gun owners, too. A slim one, they bused in from somewhere else, so they weren't townies.
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Antifa doesn't have the balls to show up and cause trouble in a state where citizens are allowed to own guns. There was enough people carrying weapons in that crowd today that the Antifa thugs knew it wasn't in their best interest to try and "milk shake" anyone.
@txradioguy
Which in itself stands as testimony as to why the RTKBA is a vital part of keeping America free.
I am sure that concept is too complex for the citizens of Portland to understand,though.
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I think Antifa was there. There was a number of very nice buses on video this morning, they dressed to blend and disrupt, and thought better of the plan when they got a load of the good ol' boys waiting.
@Cyber Liberty
I saw those VERY nice charter buses pulling into town on my teebee this morning too,and MY instant thought was "Soros is in town,yall!"
Seems like his "bad boys" might have taken one look at THAT crowd,and decided to not start throwing punches and spraying people in the eyes.
Gee,I wonder why? No sporting blood?
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@txradioguy
Which in itself stands as testimony as to why the RTKBA is a vital part of keeping America free.
I am sure that concept is too complex for the citizens of Portland to understand,though.
The game "Slapjack" is a bit of a stretch for Portland, man.
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Apparently Antifa was a no show. I've seen some tweets that the Rats are gloating because the RKBA folks had no Antifa to beat up, and that's why there was "no violence." You just can't win....
Actually a bus load of them did show up. A friend of mine (Marine Gunnery SGT Ret.) was there when the bus pulled in. They all got off took one look around and over half of them just got right back on the bus. There was one that claimed to be a Libertarian that tried to start something by asking about killing one of the speakers and the crowd shut him down right away.
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Actually a bus load of them did show up. A friend of mine (Marine Gunnery SGT Ret.) was there when the bus pulled in. They all got off took one look around and over half of them just got right back on the bus. There was one that claimed to be a Libertarian that tried to start something by asking about killing one of the speakers and the crowd shut him down right away.
Funny! Was it one of the really expensive luxury buses I saw on video yesterday?
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Funny! Was it one of the really expensive luxury buses I saw on video yesterday?
I am not sure, Scott did not say. The group I went with rented 3 buses from Quick's. Had almost 150 total. Had a great time.
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I am not sure, Scott did not say. The group I went with rented 3 buses from Quick's. Had almost 150 total. Had a great time.
I'm glad everything went off smoothly, despite our concerns for mayhem.
Now it makes the Gov. and his bunch look like the paranoid arseh*oles they are, and undercuts their entire shtick about how gun owners are just a violent bunch and not to be trusted. That event put a different face on gun owners from what the MSM has been trying to paint, and did every gun owner in the world proud.
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I'm glad everything went off smoothly, despite our concerns for mayhem.
Now it makes the Gov. and his bunch look like the paranoid arseh*oles they are, and undercuts their entire shtick about how gun owners are just a violent bunch and not to be trusted. That event put a different face on gun owners from what the MSM has been trying to paint, and did every gun owner in the world proud.
Gov Sheets-Jolson is preforming his version of Mammy
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I'm glad everything went off smoothly, despite our concerns for mayhem.
Now it makes the Gov. and his bunch look like the paranoid arseh*oles they are, and undercuts their entire shtick about how gun owners are just a violent bunch and not to be trusted. That event put a different face on gun owners from what the MSM has been trying to paint, and did every gun owner in the world proud.
Racist Ralphie and the Dimmies are still pushing ahead with their agenda.
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Racist Ralphie and the Dimmies are still pushing ahead with their agenda.
It won't stop them, but it will cause people (at least anyone who thinks) to stop and wonder why.
As I have noted on this forum, eleven people were killed with rifles in Virginia in 2017, (we don't know the make/model, but it's safe to assume that few, if any were AR-15s, the very rifles that the Governor is waging war on).
Four times as many people were beaten or kicked to death with nothing more than hands and feet in the same year in Virginia (2017).
Reality, true risk assessment, is essential to exposing this for what it is. It is not a "public safety measure", by any means. It is tyranny rearing its head.
Typical of Leftists, they conjure cures for ills no one has, at great expense and misery, and proclaim themselves saviours.
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I'm glad everything went off smoothly, despite our concerns for mayhem.
Now it makes the Gov. and his bunch look like the paranoid arseh*oles they are, and undercuts their entire shtick about how gun owners are just a violent bunch and not to be trusted. That event put a different face on gun owners from what the MSM has been trying to paint, and did every gun owner in the world proud.
Naw, the Governor aided by the media has spun this to say it was the Governor's pre-emptive actions that caused the rally to be peaceful.
He had it both ways, as peace was due to him and violence was an "I told you so".
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I think you may have all misunderstood Antifa's reason for showing up. Some on the left realize that only the government having guns might be as bad for them as it is for the ordinary citizen interested in self-defense: there is a group called the Socialist Rifle Association, which, as the name suggests, consists of people who want the government to run the economy (or at least intrude enough to create a 1970's-Scandinavia-style welfare state), but actually see the point of the 2nd Amendment. Antifa not really being centrally organized, I suspect the Virginia version may have a lot of SRA types in it.
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Antifa doesn't have the balls to show up and cause trouble in a state where citizens are allowed to own guns. There was enough people carrying weapons in that crowd today that the Antifa thugs knew it wasn't in their best interest to try and "milk shake" anyone.
I think many carriers, if they're like my older brother and his son, tend to be fairly tough guys anyway.
Both carry, but both are nobody to mess with in a fist fight. My older brother is going to be 73, but I still wouldn't want to aggravate him.
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I think you may have all misunderstood Antifa's reason for showing up. Some on the left realize that only the government having guns might be as bad for them as it is for the ordinary citizen interested in self-defense: there is a group called the Socialist Rifle Association, which, as the name suggests, consists of people who want the government to run the economy (or at least intrude enough to create a 1970's-Scandinavia-style welfare state), but actually see the point of the 2nd Amendment. Antifa not really being centrally organized, I suspect the Virginia version may have a lot of SRA types in it.
"Us all?" I do believe I said that, but nobody replied to it so I guess you didn't hear me, either. It's entirely possible the VA Antifa clowns were pro second-amendment. That said, I was expecting a bunch of Maryland Antifa idiots to be bused in to cause trouble.
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Naw, the Governor aided by the media has spun this to say it was the Governor's pre-emptive actions that caused the rally to be peaceful.
He had it both ways, as peace was due to him and violence was an "I told you so".
@IsailedawayfromFR
Since when has any career politician hesitated to lie for personal gain? Lying is what defines them.
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@IsailedawayfromFR
Since when has any career politician hesitated to lie for personal gain? Lying is what defines them.
The funny part is that if anyone had decided to be violent, nothing the governor could have done would have stopped them.
That is the lie that is sold, over and over, that government can keep you safe.
In reality, the only person who can do that is you.
(Texas church shooting, over in six seconds, less time than it would take to whip out a phone and dial 911, vs calling the police...)
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"Us all?" I do believe I said that, but nobody replied to it so I guess you didn't hear me, either. It's entirely possible the VA Antifa clowns were pro second-amendment. That said, I was expecting a bunch of Maryland Antifa idiots to be bused in to cause trouble.
Sorry about that. Lacking both the time and inclination to read every post on long threads, my commenting on the general sentiment on a thread can be a bit broad brush.
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Sorry about that. Lacking both the time and inclination to read every post on long threads, my commenting on the general sentiment on a thread can be a bit broad brush.
Sorry, didn't mean to come off all critical....
I always carry a four-inch brush, never know when I'm going to need it. :beer: