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Norquist has simply gone round the bend.
President of Americans for Tax Reform Grover Norquist heaped praise upon Chris Christie on Wednesday, calling him a “strong voice for conservative governance” who has “moved mountains” in his state.
In an interview with Katherine Timpf of Campus Reform, Norquist called Christie “one of the six or seven who could run as a successful governor for the Republican nomination.” Norquist focused on Christie’s achievements in governing a state with a Democratic house and senate: reducing unfunded liabilities and taking on the teachers’ unions in his last term.
Christie earned over 60 percent of the total vote in his reelection victory last night, including 48 percent of voters between ages 18 and 29, and 21 percent of the African-American vote. In his victory speech on Tuesday night, Christie touted his tenure in New Jersey as a model of good governance.
Norquist called Christie a “fine voice for the Northeast Republicans,” and said we must “grade on a curve” for Republican governors who have had to manage divided governments as Christie has.
http://m.nationalreview.com/corner/363307/grover-norquist-calls-christie-strong-voice-conservative-governance-alec-torres
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Isn't that interesting. Christie is pro-Muslim. Grover is married to a Muslim and has very close relations through his office with the Muslim Brotherhood...... anyone Grover likes be very wary.
Grover Norquist staunchly defended Suhail Khan, who is the son of a very radical Islamic cleric who had[Ayman al-Zawahiri in his mosque in San Diego a decade ago raising funds, essentially to support terrorism.
(http://frontpagemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/NorquistKhan.jpg)
http://frontpagemag.com/2011/jamie-glazov/the-muslim-brotherhood-penetrates-the-republican-party/
The Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrates the GOP
November 8, 2011 By Jamie Glazov
I would like to talk to you today about how the Muslim Brotherhood penetrates the Republican Party and especially the latest disturbing evidence you have on Grover Norquist and Suhail Khan in this context. As you know, David Horowitz called out both Khan and Norquist on this issue in his speech at CPAC on Feb. 12, 2011.
First, let’s begin with your knowledge of the Muslim Brotherhood’s penetration of the United States in general and what you know about it its front groups on our soil.
Sperry: Thanks Jamie.
As you know, the Brotherhood is a worldwide jihadist movement based in Cairo. It’s the parent of Hamas and al-Qaida and the source of most of the jihadist ideology and related terror throughout the world today. After 9/11, FBI agents discovered the founding archives of its U.S. operations during a raid of a terrorist suspect’s home in Annandale, Va. The secret papers revealed that the Brotherhood, which was set up in America with millions in Saudi cash, has a plan to “destroy” America and other Western nations “from within,” and is using its agents and front groups in the U.S. to carry out that strategy.
The secret papers also revealed that virtually every major Muslim group in America is a front for the radical Brotherhood, and they’ve raised millions of dollars for Hamas and al-Qaida right here inside America. They also control most of the major mosques, including the 9/11 mosque just outside Washington that found housing for some of the hijackers and helped prepare them for their martyrdom operation.
FP: What’s been done about them?
Sperry: Until recent years, their leaders operated with virtual impunity. But 9/11 broke the PC handcuffs on investigators. Several major U.S. Brotherhood figures — including Abdurahman Alamoudi, Shukri Abu Baker, Mohammad El-Mezain, Anwar Awlaki, Sami al-Arian — are now either behind bars or dead. Major front groups have been blacklisted as unindicted co-conspirators. And a key front, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations), which we expose in our book, has been banned by the FBI from outreach functions and stripped by the IRS of its nonprofit status following our investigation. But the handcuffs haven’t come off completely.
FP: How haven¹t the handcuffs come off completely?
Sperry: The Islamic Society of North America is the leading edge of the Brotherhood movement here, yet it remains a formal outreach partner of the government even though ISNA was implicated in a criminal scheme to funnel over $12 million to Hamas terrorists. Its president, in fact, just spoke at a Justice Department conference on “post-9/11 discrimination.” Mohamed Magid also prayed with Obama in the White House. It’s not just Obama though. I’ve seen the matrix with all the names of the leaders in the U.S. Brotherhood’s Shurah Council. They include people Bush prayed with after 9/11. The enemy has been inside the wire for quite some time. It’s just making deeper inroads now.
FP: Ok let’s get to Suhail Khan and Grover Norquist. What information do you have on them?
Sperry: Let me start with some background regarding Norquist. Though he’s known as the Beltway’s top antitax lobbyist, he’s also a paid lobbyist for enemies of the United States. Prior to 9/11, he was bankrolled by the General Masul of the U.S. Brotherhood — the same Alamoudi I mentioned earlier — who also happened to be al-Qaida’s top bagman in America.
FP: Evidence?
Sperry: A July 14, 2005, U.S. Treasury Department press release stated: “According to information available to the U.S. government, the September 2003 arrest of Alamoudi was a severe blow to al-Qaida, as Alamoudi had a close relationship with al-Qaida and had raised money for al-Qaida in the United States.”
In addition, I asked an FBI official who worked the Alamoudi case to elaborate on the information cited in the Treasury statement. He told me (as I reported in Muslim Mafia) that at the time of Alamoudi’s arrest, U.S. intelligence had intercepted al-Qaida chatter out of Saudi Arabia lamenting that “one of our main financiers has been taken out.”
I have no evidence Norquist knew Alamoudi was laundering Saudi cash for al-Qaida at the time he was taking his own cash from him. But he knew Alamoudi was, at a minimum, making statements in support of terrorists. Now his financier and silent partner is sitting behind bars as a convicted terrorist.
FP: What kind of money changed hands?
Sperry: As I reported in my first book, “Infiltration,” Norquist’s old lobbying firm, Janus-Merritt, was a registered agent for Alamoudi, and received some $40,000 from that dubious client. (Norquist and his Muslim partner at the firm also represented the Pakistani government on military aid.) In addition, Alamoudi gave Norquist at least $20,000 in seed money to start up an outwardly Republican front for the Brotherhood called the Islamic Free Market Institute, which was run by Alamoudi’s deputy and later appeared on a JTTF threat matrix.
FP: And that’s when Khan enters the picture?
Sperry: Right. Alamoudi sponsored Khan — Khan being the eldest son of one of the founding fathers of the Brotherhood in America. Norquist got Khan into the Bush White House as the gatekeeper for Muslims, whereupon he got al-Arian and other senior Brotherhood figures past security.
FP: What were they trying to do?
Sperry: The top of their agenda was convincing the president to eliminate the Justice Department’s use of undisclosed evidence in deportation cases against Arabs suspected of terrorism. On the eve of 9/11, Norquist personally went to the Hill and lobbied to, in his words, “get rid of the secret evidence laws which have been used to discriminate against Muslims and Arabs in this country.” After 9/11, he and his Islamic Institute lobbied against the Patriot Act. He didn’t miss a beat trying to deny law enforcement the tools they need to crack down on Muslim terrorists, even after they slaughtered 3,000 Americans and attacked the Pentagon.
FP: Where’s Khan now?
Sperry: Thanks to Norquist’s sponsorship, Khan has also been able to infiltrate other Republican circles, including the American Conservative Union. Meanwhile, he’s teamed up with Imam Mohamed Magid, Obama’s Muslim outreach partner, to do interfaith outreach with evangelical Christian leaders in the South.
FP: How is that possible?
Sperry: What Norquist does, and this is truly sinister business, is dress up Brotherhood agents who underwrite him as patriotic conservatives in order to give them political cover and gain the trust of the GOP establishment. Then with the backing of duped party leaders secured, he promotes these neo-Islamists to positions of power inside government.
His latest project is Imad “David” Ramadan.
FP: Tell us about him.
Sperry: Well, he’s running for the Virginia state legislature with breathless boosterism from Norquist, which is your first red flag. Last year, Ramadan signed an open letter to Republicans in support of the Ground Zero mosque. He signed it with Khan and Norquist’s wife, who happens to be a Palestinian Muslim.
There are other red flags. Ramadan, who’s a Lebanese immigrant, is a shadowy figure with suspicious holes in his resume. He says he’s involved in various “consulting” businesses in the Middle East. He also processes U.S. visas and green cards for Muslim immigrants. But the source of his sudden wealth is largely unknown for someone who declared bankruptcy. He’s given large sums of cash to GOP officials, to shore up their support, as well as to his own campaign.
Based on who’s been donating to his campaign, Ramadan would represent the interests of Islamists should he win the Northern Virginia seat he’s running for. Of particular note from the long list of his Muslim contributors is a $5,000 political donation he received from something called the Virginia Muslim PAC. Its president is Mukit Hossain. Turns out Hossain also runs a charitable front for the Muslim Brotherhood in Herndon, Va., called FAITH. A few years ago, Wachovia bank closed FAITH’s accounts due to suspicious activity related to possible money-laundering. A year earlier, the so-called charity received a $150,000 donation from Brotherhood leader and Saudi bagman M. Yacub Mirza, whose home and offices were raided by the feds after 9/11. Hossain keeps his FAITH office in the same raided building. Hossain’s benefactor was close to Alamoudi before Alamoudi landed in the slammer.
FP: The evidence?
Sperry: According to a federal affidavit (unsealed Oct 2003) for a search warrant of Mirza’s Herndon, Va., residence and offices, Mirza is president of SAAR Foundation, a suspected charitable front for al-Qaida founded by Saudi billionaire Sulaiman Abdul Aziz Al-Rajhi (S.A.A.R.), one of the original Golden Chain sponsors of bin Laden.
According to page 53 of the affidavit, written by special agent David C. Kane: “I believe that one source of funds flowing through (Mirza’s offices) is from the wealthy Al-Rajhi family in Saudi Arabia.” He cites one transaction of $3,388,000, along with others in the millions. The affidavit says Mirza has “signatory authority” over the bank accounts. SAAR had an active account with Wachovia before closing it within weeks of the 9/11 attacks. Some checks also were drawn on a bank account in the name of Al-Rajhi Banking and Investment Corp., Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
Now let’s tie it all together: Hossain serves on the board of a nearby mosque run by imam Magid, the ISNA chief working with Khan and Obama. This Ramadan donor is also active in the Muslim American Society, which prosecutors say is a key node in the Muslim Brotherhood’s network here.
Another Muslim listed as a donor to Ramadan’s campaign is Norquist protege Ali Tulbah, who replaced Khan at the White House when Khan landed a high-level spot at the Transportation Department. Tulbah’s father helps run a Brotherhood mosque in Houston.
FP: So Ramadan is part of the same Islamist influence operation run out of Grover’s office?
Sperry: You got it.
FP: How dangerous is Grover Norquist?
Sperry: Very dangerous. Here you have a “conservative” who built the Trojan Horse that the enemy is using to infiltrate, sabotage and destroy the U.S. from within. Norquist is helping the U.S. Brotherhood accomplish the “Grand Jihad” spelled out in its founding archives. In fact, he’s helping pull them through the gates. I think it’s fairly plain now that he knows he’s undermining U.S. security, and that he’s doing so in a time of war.
FP: So why is he still accepted in conservative circles?
Sperry: Some Republican leaders are starting to speak out publicly against him, lawmakers like Coburn and Wolf (although Wolf endorsed his protégé Ramadan after Ramadan gave him $4,700 in campaign cash). But others still see him as just a small-government libertarian who wants to widen the GOP tent. Make no mistake: Norquist is not some random deficit hawk eyeing the bloated defense budget for cuts. Nor is he some innocuous misguided Ron Paul dove. He’s something far different, far more pernicious. He’s virulently anti-military, anti-borders, anti-security. He’s a saboteur aiding and abetting groups hostile to U.S. interests. And now that he’s married to a Muslim, I doubt money is the only motivating factor behind his decidedly anti-American behavior.
If by now Republicans can’t smell a rat — a Pied Piper of rats, no less — they have failed miserably in their constitutional duty to “defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.” If the Republican Party can’t stop an Islamist Fifth Column within its own ranks, my word, we’re all doomed.
FP: What’s the status of CAIR’s “trespassing” suit against your co-author and his son, Chris, who snuck behind enemy lines as a CAIR intern and walked out with boxes of incriminating evidence that CAIR ordered him to shred?
Sperry: The most extraordinary thing about that complaint — and so far only Politico.com has picked up on this angle — is that CAIR never defends itself against the book’s claims, never alleges libel. It stipulates everything in “Muslim Mafia” to be true — which is why in its complaint, it seeks to confiscate all copies of “Muslim Mafia” in an attempt to censor the book. Of course, it cannot dispute its own internal documents, which are so damning that federal prosecutors have seized them, several boxes full, as part of a grand jury investigation of CAIR. Still, it’s highly newsworthy given the seriousness of the charges in the book.
CAIR has hit several potholes in filing its case. First it filed under a false name and had to refile. Then it ran out of money and had to replace its outside lawyers with a CAIR legal staffer who has a glaring personal conflict, given her role in overseeing the destruction of evidence Chris tried to preserve while working inside CAIR’s offices. Then CAIR failed to produce for the court a confidentiality agreement it claims Chris signed. Even so, the Clinton-appointed judge, who has ruled in favor of Gitmo detainees, has let the case go forward, and the defense is looking forward to deposing CAIR leaders. It will be the first time Nihad Awad, for one, will have to explain, under oath, why he attended a secret meeting with Hamas leaders in Philly just months before forming CAIR.
What’s more, CAIR’s executive director will have to explain why CAIR, if it’s not Hamas, would appear on a Hamas meeting agenda. The smoking-gun exhibit is reproduced in the appendix of “Muslim Mafia.” It’s a 1994 meeting agenda listing CAIR among member “organizations” of the U.S. “Palestine Committee” of Hamas. CAIR was put in charge of “coordination” among the Hamas front groups.
This document — in addition to others, including ones unearthed from CAIR’s own files – speaks materially to CAIR being founded by Hamas, controlled by Hamas, and carrying out Hamas’ agenda inside the United States. So stay tuned for the deposition transcripts.
FP: Paul Sperry, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.
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Norquist is also a huge lover of amnesty for illegal aliens. He is not a true Conservative.
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Christie is not pro muslm, he's dismissive of it, which is worse.
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Norquist is also a huge lover of amnesty for illegal aliens. He is not a true Conservative.
Grover Norquist is the poster boy for the GOPe!
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Christie is not pro muslm, he's dismissive of it, which is worse.
He has stated he favors the Ground Zero Mosque.
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Who is Norquist?.....and who cares what he says!!!
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Who is Norquist?.....and who cares what he says!!!
For a long time we were all led to believe he was one of "us" a low tax conservative... instead it turns out he is a Trojan Horse (or a Muslm) horse..... I first got wind of how bad he was in 2008 when McCain was running for President when I read an article that he first refused to support McCain and McCain informed him he had "dirt" on him and would bring it out in his Abramhoff hearings if Grover didn't play ball and throw his support to him. This is one of the things that has always made me wonder why Charlie Crist suddenly changed from the announcement he was going to make supporting Rudy and suddenly said I am going to support McCain. Let's face it we can't trust anyone....... they have all become so corrupt we are all left to our own device.
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I have to agree with him.
Let's admit it right now here. If Ronald Reagan were alive today and running the California of today...you'd dismiss him as you do Christie.
I'm just concerned his weight and health make him a prime candidate for a Breitbart-type hit. A projectile that dissolves in the body and induces a fatal heart attack.
That said, what's to choose between another 4-8 years of Alinskyite Hillary Clinton....whose senior thesis was titled, "THERE IS ONLY THE FIGHT", or
Chris Christie, who is a fiscal conservative and has the personality and character to beat back the public service unions.
He's Daniel in the lion's den....every freaking day.
And he get's things done for his constituency.
It's a no brainer. That is, if you're not already a Commie.
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Who is Norquist?.....and who cares what he says!!!
Bingo. Besides, Christie is just as likely to drop dead from a coronary from carrying around all that weight.
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I have to agree with him.
Let's admit it right now here. If Ronald Reagan were alive today and running the California of today...you'd dismiss him as you do Christie.
Wrong. I voted for Reagan both runs for Governor and every run for President. I even attended one of his fund-raising dinners in Anaheim when he was running for Governor and met he and Nancy, Christie is no RR, not even a close fifth or sixth, Regan was never an obnoxious loudmouth and he would not have gone around trash conservatives and telling anyone who will listen: "I don't need conservatives to get elected," Well.. maybe in NJ when he had no one to run against he didn't, but in the rest of the freaking county he would and trashing conservatives is no way to kick off your run for President unless you WANT them to stay home.
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Wrong. I voted for Reagan both runs for Governor and every run for President. I even attended one of his fund-raising dinners in Anaheim when he was running for Governor and met he and Nancy, Christie is no RR, not even a close fifth or sixth, Regan was never an obnoxious loudmouth and he would not have gone around trash conservatives and telling anyone who will listen: "I don't need conservatives to get elected," Well.. maybe in NJ when he had no one to run against he didn't, but in the rest of the freaking county he would and trashing conservatives is no way to kick off your run for President unless you WANT them to stay home.
Damn it with the strawmen, Rap!
It's a choice between Communism and an attempt to get back to free market capitalism.
It's not about Christie's 'purity'. At least it shouldn't be.
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Damn it with the strawmen, Rap!
It's a choice between Communism and an attempt to get back to free market capitalism.
It's not about Christie's 'purity'. At least it shouldn't be.
I don't frankly care how pissed you get .. the man does not support the 2nd amendment, he is pro amnesty and he is pro-taxes. There is nothing any different in him than Hillary. I won't vote for Hillary but I will stay home...
You are falling for the fawning press, there is a ton of skeletons in the mans closet and he is an obnoxious ass hole.
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I don't frankly care how pissed you get .. the man does not support the 2nd amendment, he is pro amnesty and he is pro-taxes. There is nothing any different in him than Hillary. I won't vote for Hillary but I will stay home...
You are falling for the fawning press, there is a ton of skeletons in the mans closet and he is an obnoxious ass hole.
If he's the nominee, I'm voting for him.
Given the circumstances surrounding us....if you don't, then you're part of the problem in this country.....not the solution.
furthermore.....I think an "obnoxious a$$hole" is EXACTLY what we need to counter these MF'ers.
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If he's the nominee, I'm voting for him.
Given the circumstances surrounding us....if you don't, then you're part of the problem in this country.....not the solution.
Good for you.
I'm a conservative. He already said he doesn't want my vote.. in fact he said it loud and clear, I take him at his word and ergo he won't get it.
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Good for you.
I'm a conservative. He already said he doesn't want my vote.. in fact he said it loud and clear, I take him at his word and ergo he won't get it.
That's childish, IMO. Grow up. The country is more important than your hurt feelings.
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That's childish, IMO. Grow up. The country is more important than your hurt feelings.
Sorry. Don't want Hillary elect someone else to represent the GOP other than Christie.
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I will vote for the Republican, regardless of who it is. I am a conservative.
He/she will be better for America than any democrat. Not voting, or voting 3rd party is a vote for the democrat.
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I am not going to be badgered for the next three years like I was for Romney... we tried to tell all of you Romney couldn't win but you all had stars in your eyes for that moderate candidate which the same people here now pimping for Christie had and posted day in and day out the ONLY PERSON WHO CAN BEAT OBAMA is Romney -- that is all you said day in and day out .... Romney, Romney, Romney....... one day when the GOP no longer exists you will find out giving the middle finger to conservatives is not the way to win the WH.
Romney said"I don't need conservatives" and now Christie has already said "I don't need conservatives." Well they let winning in a blue state go to their heads thinking they don't need conservatives -- newsflash -- they NEED conservatives. Christie thinks it's really cute to go after Rand Paul and other conservatives. Well the rest of the country is not New Jersey.... and his comments are contemptable.
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I am not going to be badgered for the next three years like I was for Romney... we tried to tell all of you Romney couldn't win but you all had stars in your eyes for that moderate candidate which the same people here now pimping for Christie had and posted day in and day out the ONLY PERSON WHO CAN BEAT OBAMA is Romney -- that is all you said day in and day out .... Romney, Romney, Romney....... one day when the GOP no longer exists you will find out giving the middle finger to conservatives is not the way to win the WH.
Romney said"I don't need conservatives" and now Christie has already said "I don't need conservatives." Well they let winning in a blue state go to their heads thinking they don't need conservatives -- newsflash -- they NEED conservatives. Christie thinks it's really cute to go after Rand Paul and other conservatives. Well the rest of the country is not New Jersey.... and his comments are contemptable.
Bullsh*t.
We're not talking about the primaries here. And you know it.
Furthermore, who among all those candidates besides Mitt Romney....had a fiddler's chance of beating the Obama Machine?
They turned Barbie's "Ken" into Ted Bundy.
And he was too decent to walk up to George Stephanopoulus and punch him in the mouth.
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I will vote for the Republican, regardless of who it is. I am a conservative.
He/she will be better for America than any democrat. Not voting, or voting 3rd party is a vote for the democrat.
I'll vote for the republican as well; that doesn't mean I'm just going to sit passively by and let some small bunch of power-brokers pick that republican without some fussin' from me if I don't like their latest pet.
Christie is too much of a democrat in GOP clothing - like Michael Bloomberg - for me to be particularly comfortable with him. If he ends up being the last horse in the race, sobeit - I'd rather vote for him than for a democrat - but I'm not going to sit idly by and keep my mouth shut during the selection process.
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Bullsh*t.
We're not talking about the primaries here. And you know it.
Furthermore, who among all those candidates besides Mitt Romney....had a fiddler's chance of beating the Obama Machine?
They turned Barbie's "Ken" into Ted Bundy.
And he was too decent to walk up to George Stephanopoulus and punch him in the mouth.
I realize it doesn't bother you passively living in one of the highest tax, most liberal states in the nation, so I don't really expect you to understand how offensive it is that the GOPe has served notice they are out to DESTROY the conservative wing of the GOP....... they are no better than the Democrats... when you have McCain calling Cruz and Lee "whacko birds" and Chris Christie stating he has no use for conservatives -- do not insult me by telling me you expect me to vote for the people who are insulting me in such a blatant manner.
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I realize it doesn't bother you passively living in one of the highest tax, most liberal states in the nation, so I don't really expect you to understand how offensive it is that the GOPe has served notice they are out to DESTROY the conservative wing of the GOP....... they are no better than the Democrats... when you have McCain calling Cruz and Lee "whacko birds" and Chris Christie stating he has no use for conservatives -- do not insult me by telling me you expect me to vote for the people who are insulting me in such a blatant manner.
Would you really prefer another Obama to a Christie? Would President Hillary be preferable to President Christie?
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Would you really prefer another Obama to a Christie? Would President Hillary be preferable to President Christie?
That is the rational question.
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That is the rational question.
It's the bluntly practical question. There is, of course, a mirror question: would you prefer President Hillary to President Cruz?
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Would you really prefer another Obama to a Christie? Would President Hillary be preferable to President Christie?
Not a lot of difference between them.
Both are arrogant blowhards,
Christie is:
anti-second amendment,
pro-amnesty,
pro-Mosque at Ground Zero,
appointed a Sharia judge to the court
expanded medicaid in his state,
refused to allow the NJ AG join to in the Obamacare lawsuits that went forward.
remember the hissy fit he pitched about all that money he wanted after Sandy? Yet reports are it has not been well spent and a lot has gone missing.
Then there is all the stuff Romney campaign found on him that didn't even make him a candidate for VP because the media would have been all over his bad baggage (BERNIE MADOFF-Related) and Romney didn't want that to suck the air out of his campaign... he also refused to provide most of the documents Romney asked for to make the decision....
But get real - do we REALLY want to fight the Bernie Madoff stuff during this election? You think Hillary won't use it and everything else she probably already has on him? and look at Grover Norquist - if Grover is endorsing anyone run as fast as you can away from that candidate.
Like Hillary - Christie is all about Christie... any doubts, look at what he did to Romney - his speech at the convention was all about Christie and then "oh by the way, vote for Romney"... and don't forget he refused to allow Romney to fund raise in NJ, refused to let Romney travel to NJ after Sandy - yet even when the governor of NY and Bloomberg told Obama no.. Christie said - "come on down" and then all but French-kissed Obama. And when Obama rewarded him with a meeting with Springstein - good grief he was an embarrassment... pulling a Boehner... 8888crybaby
Romney stood a chance - the race was that close until Christie cut him off at the knees.
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Not a lot of difference between them.
Both are arrogant blowhards,
Christie is:
anti-second amendment,
pro-amnesty,
pro-Mosque at Ground Zero,
appointed a Sharia judge to the court
expanded medicaid in his state,
refused to allow the NJ AG join to in the Obamacare lawsuits that went forward.
remember the hissy fit he pitched about all that money he wanted after Sandy? Yet reports are it has not been well spent and a lot has gone missing.
Then there is all the stuff Romney campaign found on him that didn't even make him a candidate for VP because the media would have been all over his bad baggage (BERNIE MADOFF-Related) and Romney didn't want that to suck the air out of his campaign... he also refused to provide most of the documents Romney asked for to make the decision....
But get real - do we REALLY want to fight the Bernie Madoff stuff during this election? You think Hillary won't use it and everything else she probably already has on him? and look at Grover Norquist - if Grover is endorsing anyone run as fast as you can away from that candidate.
Like Hillary - Christie is all about Christie... any doubts, look at what he did to Romney - his speech at the convention was all about Christie and then "oh by the way, vote for Romney"... and don't forget he refused to allow Romney to fund raise in NJ, refused to let Romney travel to NJ after Sandy - yet even when the governor of NY and Bloomberg told Obama no.. Christie said - "come on down" and then all but French-kissed Obama. And when Obama rewarded him with a meeting with Springstein - good grief he was an embarrassment... pulling a Boehner... 8888crybaby
Romney stood a chance - the race was that close until Christie cut him off at the knees.
Whom would you prefer as President? Let's keep it simple to start with: it's a two-answer multiple choice question.
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Whom would you prefer as President? Let's keep it simple to start with: it's a two-answer multiple choice question.
Not sure right now. Unlike some others here I am not ready to fall in love with someone.
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Not sure right now. Unlike some others here I am not ready to fall in love with someone.
Love really shouldn't have anything to do with it. It's more like picking your gardener than picking your spouse; I don't have to love my gardener, I just have to prefer what he does with my garden more than what anyone else can do with it.
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Love really shouldn't have anything to do with it. It's more like picking your gardener than picking your spouse; I don't have to love my gardener, I just have to prefer what he does with my garden more than what anyone else can do with it.
More than anything I don't want someone who isn't clean enough that he or she can go after all of the Clinton scandals........ this business of people claiming only so and so can win should have taught us a lesson last year. Frankly I still think Perry could have run the table if he hadn't had back surgery and his brain been scrambled due to the pain meds... but we will never know.
Remember when we told people Romney could not fight Obamacare because he had Romneycare in his resume? Well how is Christie going to fight Whitewater and other scandals when he has his own... just google Christie and Madoff and you get rheams of stuff and this is from 2011......... wait until 2016....
http://www.theawl.com/2011/09/the-chris-christie-madoff-attack-ad-that-writes-itself
The Chris Christie-Madoff Attack Ad That Writes Itself
Abe Sauer | September 27th, 2011
In their ever-widening search for somebody who is not Mitt Romney, conservatives are now souring on Rick Perry and turning their desperate, flailing hopes toward Chris Christie. For his part, Christie says he's not running (but Republicans note that he keeps acting the part).
But should the New Jersey governor decide to dive into the shallow end that is the GOP nomination race, here's a lesser known part of his past that might doom him in the general election.
Christie's failings with hard-right Republicans have been well documented. He favors "some of the gun-control measures." He has gone from denying climate-change to an admission that "climate change is real." Maybe most egregiously, he appointed a judge with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Also harmful, Christie is both a hippo and a RINO.
Yet, as I discovered while among Michele Bachmann's doomed followers, Christie is still the top name of many conservatives' "dream ticket." Yet, should he enter the race and get past the primary, his chances in the general election are dicey. And there's one particular incident in his past that's practically a gift-wrapped present to Democrats.
Before he was flying in state helicopters to his kid's baseball games, Christie was flying on private jets as part of the law firm Dughi, Hewit & Palatucci, for whom, as a lobbyist, the future governor fought for the rights of Wall Street. In fact, one of Christie's primary lobbying projects on behalf of Wall Street was to win an exemption for securities fraud from New Jersey's Consumer Fraud Act. For those Americans whose 401(k)s have been gouged in the last few years, that won't play well. (The only reason this wasn't much of an issue in his gubernatorial campaign was because his opponent was Jon Corzine, who sucked off Wall Street's teat with even more gusto than Christie.)
But it gets worse for Christie.
In a detail that practically writes its own commercial script, the Wall Street client on whose behalf Christie lobbied was the Securities Industry Association. Which, at that time, was led by one Mr. Bernard Madoff.
The bottom line for Obama's communication team: As a lobbyist, Chris Christie worked to remove securities fraud from a consumer fraud act on behalf of an organization run by Bernie Madoff.
It's exactly the kind of scandal that's easy to understand no matter who you are, involves a universally despised villain who has come to represent all the illegality of the 2008 market collapse, and it would be devastating to Christie in much-needed Florida.
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It's the bluntly practical question. There is, of course, a mirror question: would you prefer President Hillary to President Cruz?
No.
But I don't think he's the one that could defeat her.
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No.
But I don't think he's the one that could defeat her.
She is not Goliath.
What we don't need is a shitload of vanity of runs who are only there to raise their own profile to sell books, raise their speaking engagement rate or get on more Sunday shows. I thought conservatives were supposed to be intelligent and ideology concerned. Couldn't prove it by "Sweater Vest", "Pizza Man", "Crazy Eyed Ex-Girlfriend" or "Professor Leave Cancer Wife".
Actually, I believe Rap is more indicative of politics than anything. It's our side that's been dropping out of the voting booth. We've been scolded, scared and screwed over by the "Establishment" that we just say "WTF and go Galt". I was so close to not voting the last two elections. Palin got my vote in '08, not McCain and the thought we might defeat the trainwreck in '12 got me out of my easy chair and down to the voting booth.
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Love really shouldn't have anything to do with it. It's more like picking your gardener than picking your spouse; I don't have to love my gardener, I just have to prefer what he does with my garden more than what anyone else can do with it.
Thanks for bringing common sense to the thread, Oceander! :beer:
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I am not going to be badgered for the next three years like I was for Romney... we tried to tell all of you Romney couldn't win but you all had stars in your eyes for that moderate candidate which the same people here now pimping for Christie had and posted day in and day out the ONLY PERSON WHO CAN BEAT OBAMA is Romney -- that is all you said day in and day out .... Romney, Romney, Romney....... one day when the GOP no longer exists you will find out giving the middle finger to conservatives is not the way to win the WH.
Romney said"I don't need conservatives" and now Christie has already said "I don't need conservatives." Well they let winning in a blue state go to their heads thinking they don't need conservatives -- newsflash -- they NEED conservatives. Christie thinks it's really cute to go after Rand Paul and other conservatives. Well the rest of the country is not New Jersey.... and his comments are contemptable.
Wait a minute! Do you have a crystal ball? Who's to say Gingrich – or any other Republican – would have won against Obama?
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I realize it doesn't bother you passively living in one of the highest tax, most liberal states in the nation, so I don't really expect you to understand how offensive it is that the GOPe has served notice they are out to DESTROY the conservative wing of the GOP....... they are no better than the Democrats... when you have McCain calling Cruz and Lee "whacko birds" and Chris Christie stating he has no use for conservatives -- do not insult me by telling me you expect me to vote for the people who are insulting me in such a blatant manner.
Conservatives – including you – were and are attacking Christie. So he lashed out and said he doesn't need conservatives. Which, in his state, helps with reelection. But, he also said affirmatively he's a conservative and has shown through governance that he is a conservative – erased $11B in budget deficit via spending cuts, pro-life, pro traditional marriage, 2% cap on municipal spending, cut business taxes by $600 million annually, stood up to the teachers union.
I'd much rather have a conservative in deed than in talk.
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So the GOP Briefing Room is a Pro Christie site?
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Oooo, scairweeey – people have opinions.
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So the GOP Briefing Room is a Pro Christie site?
Are you a troll?
....coming onto a thread where a few of us are defending a choice between MORE Communist Socialist tyranny or a U-turn onto Free Markets and less regulation and personal freedom?
Get lost.
The Briefing Room is more than Pookey's Toons. [/s]
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Norquist is a dhimmi to the nth degree, a filthy quisling deserving no respect or attention. That he supports the other filth of his ilk, not surprising at all, not one bit...
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Norquist is also a huge lover of amnesty for illegal aliens. He is not a true Conservative.
"Conservative" is one of the last labels that should ever be applied to this cur.
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Wrong. I voted for Reagan both runs for Governor and every run for President. I even attended one of his fund-raising dinners in Anaheim when he was running for Governor and met he and Nancy, Christie is no RR, not even a close fifth or sixth, Regan was never an obnoxious loudmouth and he would not have gone around trash conservatives and telling anyone who will listen: "I don't need conservatives to get elected," Well.. maybe in NJ when he had no one to run against he didn't, but in the rest of the freaking county he would and trashing conservatives is no way to kick off your run for President unless you WANT them to stay home.
Spot on, Rap!! To compare this POS to Reagan is just unthinkable!!
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Not a lot of difference between them.
Both are arrogant blowhards,
Christie is:
anti-second amendment,
pro-amnesty,
pro-Mosque at Ground Zero,
appointed a Sharia judge to the court
expanded medicaid in his state,
refused to allow the NJ AG join to in the Obamacare lawsuits that went forward.
remember the hissy fit he pitched about all that money he wanted after Sandy? Yet reports are it has not been well spent and a lot has gone missing.
Then there is all the stuff Romney campaign found on him that didn't even make him a candidate for VP because the media would have been all over his bad baggage (BERNIE MADOFF-Related) and Romney didn't want that to suck the air out of his campaign... he also refused to provide most of the documents Romney asked for to make the decision....
But get real - do we REALLY want to fight the Bernie Madoff stuff during this election? You think Hillary won't use it and everything else she probably already has on him? and look at Grover Norquist - if Grover is endorsing anyone run as fast as you can away from that candidate.
Like Hillary - Christie is all about Christie... any doubts, look at what he did to Romney - his speech at the convention was all about Christie and then "oh by the way, vote for Romney"... and don't forget he refused to allow Romney to fund raise in NJ, refused to let Romney travel to NJ after Sandy - yet even when the governor of NY and Bloomberg told Obama no.. Christie said - "come on down" and then all but French-kissed Obama. And when Obama rewarded him with a meeting with Springstein - good grief he was an embarrassment... pulling a Boehner... 8888crybaby
Romney stood a chance - the race was that close until Christie cut him off at the knees.
Exactly! Anyone thinking that there is any substantive difference between them, isn't really thinking!!
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In case anyone is interested, THIS is the course I will follow.
In the primaries I will work as hard as I possibly can at every level to see that the most conservative candidate possible gets the Republican nomination. In the general election I will vote a straight Republican ticket because doing anything else is madness!
RINOS won't follow that course! If they don't get their way they will tun on the nominee and help the Democrat win.
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Spot on, Rap!! To compare this POS to Reagan is just unthinkable!!
Why don't you tell us the story of how you didn't vote for RINO Romney. I'm sure that'll impress the hell out of us suffering under Obama's tyrannical rule.
Great strategy. Don't vote for the free marketeer – that'll teach those unprincipled Republicans.
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Are you a troll?
....coming onto a thread where a few of us are defending a choice between MORE Communist Socialist tyranny or a U-turn onto Free Markets and less regulation and personal freedom?
Get lost.
The Briefing Room is more than Pookey's Toons. [/s]
Stop the troll crap, this isn't FR. Rusty has as much right on this thread as anyone.
To answer Rusty, if that's what it turns into I'm out of here. I can't stand the fat bastard.
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Are you a troll?
....coming onto a thread where a few of us are defending a choice between MORE Communist Socialist tyranny or a U-turn onto Free Markets and less regulation and personal freedom?
Get lost.
The Briefing Room is more than Pookey's Toons. [/s]
I should have worded that better, sorry.
My Personal opinion is that Christie is not republican or conservative enough to suit me.
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I can't stand the fat bastard.
That's two of us.
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That's two of us.
Exactly... and note at the top under the banner it's spelled out...we are a Conservative site.
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Exactly... and note at the top under the banner it's spelled out...we are a Conservative site.
That is precisely what Jim Robinson always says.
Yet I recall this site grew, in part, from people that could not discuss more moderate Republicans at FR, hence the original name "GOP Briefing Room."
Giuliani comes to mind, as one of the more moderate Republicans many people here wanted to discuss.
I will be very disappointed if this is site has been re-designated as a "conservative" only site.
How history does repeat itself.
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Wideawakes was formed to support Rudy. This site was formed after Wideawakes and two or three other sites failed and we have been growing ever sense.
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That is precisely what Jim Robinson always says.
Yet I recall this site grew, in part, from people that could not discuss more moderate Republicans at FR, hence the original name "GOP Briefing Room."
Giuliani comes to mind, as one of the more moderate Republicans many people here wanted to discuss.
I will be very disappointed if this is site has been re-designated as a "conservative" only site.
How history does repeat itself.
You're always insisting you're a Conservative, if that's a truism then this being a Conservative site should not be a problem.
That said, no one is telling you who to support here, but if you're going to support a big government, anti second amendment guy don t call the people who push back on that support a troll.
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I am a conservative as is Repub4whatever it is now.....but The Briefing Room has and does welcome all factions of the GOP Party[including the Tea Party as I find myself more aligned with] as we know it takes all of us to beat these rat bastards......I will fight for my candidate but in the end will support and vote for the GOP nominee as I feel it is better than any Dem....hopefully the nominee will be a conservative..lol
btw...rustynail is not a troll!
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Families squabble. Totally normal, that.
But never get in their way. :laugh:
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I am a conservative as is Repub4whatever it is now.....but The Briefing Room has and does welcome all factions of the GOP Party[including the Tea Party as I find myself more aligned with] as we know it takes all of us to beat these rat bastards......I will fight for my candidate but in the end will support and vote for the GOP nominee as I feel it is better than any Dem....hopefully the nominee will be a conservative..lol
btw...rustynail is not a troll!
Thank you for clarifying that. I just stated I would vote for any Republican, over any democrat, too.
Therefore I'm pleased to be so closely aligned with this sites' owners and directors, in that regard.
I hope ALL the mods are up to speed on your definitions, and statement of purpose.
Since the site is open to "Republicans, Conservatives, Reagan Democrats or other like thinking groups" I see no point trying to label or criticize somebody who falls within those boundaries.
IOW it should be okay, to be a "Republican" or a "libertarian" (like thinking groups) who suggests that a Tea Party candidate may not be electable in a national forum.
Such a suggestion would not be a disparagement of Tea Partiers, but rather an honest proposition for people interested in reality, national demographics, voting histories, polls, etc.
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IOW it should be okay, to be a "Republican" or a "libertarian" (like thinking groups) who suggests that a Tea Party candidate may not be electable in a national forum.
We're gonna have to disagree on that as I feel the right TP candidate can win the Presidency if...IFthat person is popular, ahead in the polls and not abandoned by the Repub Party just to prove a point.
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We're gonna have to disagree on that as I feel the right TP candidate can win the Presidency if...IFthat person is popular, ahead in the polls and not abandoned by the Repub Party just to prove a point.
All I'm trying to point out is the site should be open to hold that discussion. I don't have a hard, firm opinion. It is too early, for instance, to see how various candidates might perform on a national stage.
I can name some candidates that identify as Tea Party, that I think would have no chance. Take for instance the founder of the House Tea Party Caucus. Yet she took up space in last election, results and all.
What Cruz says is wonderful. That he has intentionally separated himself from so many non-TP Republicans may reflect his lack of political experience, and perhaps wisdom.
I see Rand Paul taking a more measured, patient course of action, perhaps reflecting greater political wisdom. And when fully heard, his positions might offer broader appeal.
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All I'm trying to point out is the site should be open to hold that discussion
I hope it is but as you know when it gets closer to election time this site and at every other political site the discussions get very heated to say the least..but we have withstood it so far...lol :0001:
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Yep. Primary season is the intramural event.
I hope people can continue to have discussions here and disagree without being disagreeable.
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Yep. Primary season is the intramural event.
I hope people can continue to have discussions here and disagree without being disagreeable.
We can start by not accusing someone who disagree of being a troll and telling them to get off a thread. and yes i know it wasnt you AC...
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Spot on, Rap!! To compare this POS to Reagan is just unthinkable!!
Nobody has compared Christie to Reagan. Can you freaking read?
I said that governing a deep blue State in 2012 is NOT the same thing as governing a light blue State in 1978, but the acceptance that you're not going to get EVERYTHING you want is the ONLY way you can succeed in that position.
The same people that hold up Ronald Reagan as the anchor of Conservatism today, wouldn't accept his negotiating strategy today. He would be rebuked by SOCONS.
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That is precisely what Jim Robinson always says.
Yet I recall this site grew, in part, from people that could not discuss more moderate Republicans at FR, hence the original name "GOP Briefing Room."
Giuliani comes to mind, as one of the more moderate Republicans many people here wanted to discuss.
I will be very disappointed if this is site has been re-designated as a "conservative" only site.
How history does repeat itself.
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Its survival of the fittest here, sport. Heck, Sinky couldn't get here fast enough Tues night to initially grandstand over Cuccinelli's loss, but the King of Monday Morning Quarterbacking has declined to return after that to discuss Rove and the RNC's decision not to fund his campaign. Dittos for Once-Ler.
That's GOPBR's fault? Nobody's barring the gates to people like you--invite more of them here if you want.
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Stop the troll crap, this isn't FR. Rusty has as much right on this thread as anyone.
To answer Rusty, if that's what it turns into I'm out of here. I can't stand the fat bastard.
Is there a digital salute emoticon? :tongue2:
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I am a conservative as is Repub4whatever it is now.....but The Briefing Room has and does welcome all factions of the GOP Party[including the Tea Party as I find myself more aligned with] as we know it takes all of us to beat these rat bastards......I will fight for my candidate but in the end will support and vote for the GOP nominee as I feel it is better than any Dem....hopefully the nominee will be a conservative..lol
btw...rustynail is not a troll!
No? Then tell him to provide substance instead of asking a stupid question geared to put people on the defense.
And thank you for stressing that REPUBLICANS are welcomed here. We don't all have to be carrying bibles too.
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Unnecessarily offensive: We don't all have to be carrying bibles too.
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And thank you for stressing that REPUBLICANS are welcomed here. We don't all have to be carrying bibles too.
What is that supposed to mean?
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What is that supposed to mean?
It means I'm sick and tired of SOCONS dictating the path the GOP must take. That's what it's supposed to mean.
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It means I'm sick and tired of SOCONS dictating the path the GOP must take. That's what it's supposed to mean.
Clearly living in socialist utopia you have bought onto the hype about the tea party. It is not socons. maybe you should actually read what the tea stands for. Frankly i never thougjt you were anti second ammendment.
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Ok everybody relax...we are all friends here and fighting the same fight...remember that!
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It's Friday night..time for a glass of a good Merlot
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Grover Norquist is the poster boy for the GOPe!
Grover Norquist is a tool. And a Muslim tool to boot. :smokin:
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If he's the nominee, I'm voting for him.
Given the circumstances surrounding us....if you don't, then you're part of the problem in this country.....not the solution.
furthermore.....I think an "obnoxious a$$hole" is EXACTLY what we need to counter these MF'ers.
The problem is the GOPe gets to select the solution. And they mostly pick losers. I'm from next door to Jersey. They're taxed and regulated up the ying yank. Christy Kreme ain't done much to fix it. He's also shown NO loyalty to fellow GOP candidates, i.e Cuchinelli. Guess Christie is part of the problem. So I also will pass on DimLite. 'Cause a half-assed solution is no solution at all. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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Clearly living in socialist utopia you have bought onto the hype about the tea party. It is not socons. maybe you should actually read what the tea stands for. Frankly i never thougjt you were anti second ammendment.
Your association is flawed. The TEA PARTY rose out of fiscal issues. Nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.
I've attended major TEA PARTY marches in DC. Have you?
Taxed Enough Already. FISCAL....not social.
I'm not anti 2nd Amendment. I just don't own any firearms.
.....yet.
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Clearly living in socialist utopia you have bought onto the hype about the tea party. It is not socons. maybe you should actually read what the tea stands for. Frankly i never thougjt you were anti second ammendment.
Are we to be judged, and criticized, even maligned for where we live?
Life is not entirely online politics. I'd enjoy living in many liberal places.
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I'm not anti 2nd Amendment. I just don't own any firearms.
.....yet.
Pick one up. Hie thee to a range and practice with it. Or better still - get to the range first and see what suits you before you buy. Nearly all ranges do rentals/loaners, and most of the other customers are usually pretty cool with letting you send a couple rounds from theirs downrange.
I am fond of both the Sig Sauer P556 and the Striker street sweeper. Tried a Glock 22 - couldn't hit the floor with it if I dropped it.
Not that I could possess such things in the gloriously disarmed UK. :whistle:
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3 rallies including Searchlight with Palin and Breitbart. Christie is anti 2nd... A vote for him is anti 2nd.
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Why don't you tell us the story of how you didn't vote for RINO Romney. I'm sure that'll impress the hell out of us suffering under Obama's tyrannical rule.
Great strategy. Don't vote for the free marketeer – that'll teach those unprincipled Republicans.
Except it wouldn't be true. I voted for Romney as I actually did believe he could have made a difference. Still believe he wasn't cut from the same cloth as the rest of them, I could be way off on that, but it is what I believe at the present.
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Are we to be judged, and criticized, even maligned for where we live?
Life is not entirely online politics. I'd enjoy living in many liberal places.
I wasn't insulted. I hate Maryland. But at my age and situation...I'm here now.
LOL! My ex-wife and her husband sold their $2 Million home in Potomac Maryland and moved "across the river" into Great Falls, Virginia....about a twenty minute drive difference....in order to escape Maryland's punitive taxation on millionaires.
....and then McAulliffe beats Cuccinelli. You gotta love these SOBs.
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It's Friday night..time for a glass of a good Merlot
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Great suggestion!! Here's a few more bottles, we may need them!! :silly:
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Pick one up. Hie thee to a range and practice with it. Or better still - get to the range first and see what suits you before you buy. Nearly all ranges do rentals/loaners, and most of the other customers are usually pretty cool with letting you send a couple rounds from theirs downrange.
I am fond of both the Sig Sauer P556 and the Striker street sweeper. Tried a Glock 22 - couldn't hit the floor with it if I dropped it.
Not that I could possess such things in the gloriously disarmed UK. :whistle:
Good advice, EC! :beer:
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Except it wouldn't be true. I voted for Romney as I actually did believe he could have made a difference. Still believe he wasn't cut from the same cloth as the rest of them, I could be way off on that, but it is what I believe at the present.
He was the strongest in that field....no doubt. The most qualified, too.
But his personality and charisma are sorely lacking....in this American Idol culture in which we live, it spelled DOOM!
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We can start by not accusing someone who disagree of being a troll and telling them to get off a thread. and yes i know it wasnt you AC...
FACT:
You and I (and you know I luv you to death) were squaring off....about YOU choosing to sit on your a$$ come election day because Chris Christie may be the GOP candidate
Along comes a poster with a double digit post total....writing a one-liner with a virtual dripping gas can in his hand. He was looking for a reaction.
Well, he got one. :beer:
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Along comes a poster with a double digit post total....writing a one-liner with a virtual dripping gas can in his hand. He was looking for a reaction.
We can't be that was or we will never get new members or at least new members afraid to post...that's why I have always hated the term *newbie*.....and once registered we are all members....
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We can't be that was or we will never get new members or at least new members afraid to post...that's why I have always hated the term *newbie*.....and once registered we are all members....
No...I understand.
Look...my Redskins got beat in another heart breaker. I was upset and angry...and not myself. LOL!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it! :patriot:
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We can't be that was or we will never get new members or at least new members afraid to post...that's why I have always hated the term *newbie*.....and once registered we are all members....
I feel like Columbo...exiting the door...to turn around and say, "uh......one more thing!" LOL!
I ask anybody in here that experienced the highs and lows of the primary season...and the arguments and/or disagreements among us.
Wasn't it mentally taxing? It drove Rap crazy. Which made a lot of other people crazy. LOL!
I had never confronted ANYBODY like that on the forums since I've been here.
After all that, she has the temerity to express that she will NOT cast a vote for Christie vs. Hillary Clinton.
After we've all been seeing from this Administration? A Clinton administration would be Obama on steroids.
"We're going to take things from you....for the common good!"
I got the graphic somewhere here....
Well, given the sh*t sandwich I've been eating the past 5 years with this mamaluke....it was not the time to read from ANYBODY....let alone Rusty...to ask if this was a Romney site?
The defense rests......
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Principled conservatives everywhere voted for Romney. Even Mark Levin – who talked Romney down in the primary and who famously said he would vote for a can of orange juice before voting for Obama – voted for Romney.
By the way, Mark Levin hates Chris Christie. But I guarantee you if Christie where the nominee against Hillary Clinton, or any other Democrat, he would vote for Chris Christie in a heartbeat. Period. No question.
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Principled conservatives everywhere voted for Romney. Even Mark Levin – who talked Romney down in the primary and who famously said he would vote for a can of orange juice before voting for Obama – voted for Romney.
By the way, Mark Levin hates Chris Christie. But I guarantee you if Christie where the nominee against Hillary Clinton, or any other Democrat, he would vote for Chris Christie in a heartbeat. Period. No question.
Exactly my point, AC! :beer:
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Principled conservatives everywhere voted for Romney. Even Mark Levin – who talked Romney down in the primary and who famously said he would vote for a can of orange juice before voting for Obama – voted for Romney.
By the way, Mark Levin hates Chris Christie. But I guarantee you if Christie where the nominee against Hillary Clinton, or any other Democrat, he would vote for Chris Christie in a heartbeat. Period. No question.
And I'll be right there with him! But be forewarned that I intend to do everything in my power to prevent Christie from getting the nomination just as I did with Romney!
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As it should be, Bigun. Survival of the fittest – someone once said – should yield the best candidate for the general election. I fought like hell for Romney against Gingrich (even though I'm a fan Gingrich). I thought Romney could win. I was wrong.
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Principled conservatives everywhere voted for Romney. Even Mark Levin – who talked Romney down in the primary and who famously said he would vote for a can of orange juice before voting for Obama – voted for Romney.
By the way, Mark Levin hates Chris Christie. But I guarantee you if Christie where the nominee against Hillary Clinton, or any other Democrat, he would vote for Chris Christie in a heartbeat. Period. No question.
Yup. And if Christie enters the primaries and is subjected to the customary GOPBR sausage-grinding, yet comes out on the other side as the party's nominee--most here will end up voting for him, despite the emotional proclamations (mine included) otherwise. :beer:
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I wasn't insulted. I hate Maryland. But at my age and situation...I'm here now.
LOL! My ex-wife and her husband sold their $2 Million home in Potomac Maryland and moved "across the river" into Great Falls, Virginia....about a twenty minute drive difference....in order to escape Maryland's punitive taxation on millionaires.
....and then McAulliffe beats Cuccinelli. You gotta love these SOBs.
The liberal climate around my community drives me nuts sometimes, and I ain't subjected to nearly the punitive taxes that you are. I get sick of the Obama stickers, the Affordable Care Act stickers, the comments that come up in social situations, the comments I overhear in public places, and the gay mecca that this community has become, even though I have some gay friends.
I sometimes dream of leaving this area, at least for a couple of months and going somewhere sane. I attended a wedding in the Allegheny National Forest area of PA back in Sept. I LOVED being in that area--the people all seemed so normal and unjaded.
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I love when we're on the same page, Lipstick. :beer: getting my clock cleaned by you is no fun!
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The liberal climate around my community drives me nuts sometimes, and I ain't subjected to nearly the punitive taxes that you are. I get sick of the Obama stickers, the Affordable Care Act stickers, the comments that come up in social situations, the comments I overhear in public places, and the gay mecca that this community has become, even though I have some gay friends.
I sometimes dream of leaving this area, at least for a couple of months and going somewhere sane. I attended a wedding in the Allegheny National Forest area of PA back in Sept. I LOVED being in that area--the people all seemed so normal and unjaded.
Take a couple weeks off and hit the roads? There is no shame in hitting burn out - passionate people do. But you need a break from time to time.
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I love when we're on the same page, Lipstick. :beer: getting my clock cleaned by you is no fun!
Awww, I'm sorry. I'll try to mellow. No promises though. :kisses2:
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Whew! LOL!
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Yup. And if Christie enters the primaries and is subjected to the customary GOPBR sausage-grinding, yet comes out on the other side as the party's nominee--most here will end up voting for him, despite the emotional proclamations (mine included) otherwise. :beer:
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