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General Category => Science, Technology and Knowledge => Topic started by: EC on November 15, 2013, 12:43:29 pm
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Scary headline win of the day.
Sky News: http://news.sky.com/story/1169107/sun-set-to-flip-upside-down-within-weeks
The Sun's magnetic field is expected to flip upside down within weeks as its north and south poles swap sides.
The phenomenon, which will send "ripple effects" throughout the solar system, happens once every 11 years as the solar cycle reaches its peak.
It will be observed throughout the heliosphere - the vast region of space affected by the Sun's magnetic field, which extends billions of miles beyond Pluto.
The swap could cause intergalactic weather events such as geomagnetic storms, which can cause radio blackouts and interfere with satellites.
The heightened solar activity it coincides with is also expected to give stargazers a better glimpse of the aurora borealis, or Northern Lights.
Todd Hoeksema, a scientist at Stanford University's Wilcox Solar Observatory, said the polar reversal takes place as the Sun's magnetic field moves north or south from the equator, eroding the existing pole as it does so.
"It's kind of like a tide coming in or going out," he said. "Each little wave brings a little more water in, and eventually you get to the full reversal."
Latest measurements show the Sun technically has two south poles, caused by its two hemispheres being out of sync.
Phil Scherrer, who works with Mr Hoeksema at the observatory, said: "The north pole has already changed sign, while the south pole is racing to catch up.
"Soon, however, both poles will be reversed, and the second half of solar max will be under way."
Mr Hoeksema said in early August that a "complete field reversal" looked like being "no more than three to four months away".
Instruments at the solar observatory near San Francisco have been staring at the Sun for nearly 40 years and record its magnetic field every day.
So, it is a perfectly normal thing that happens every 11 years or so.
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Quite frankly, I never heard of the event. And if it is something that happenes every 11 years as the story says that means in has happened 5 times in my life time - without notice, and no effect on the solor system.
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Quite frankly, I never heard of the event. And if it is something that happenes every 11 years as the story says that means in has happened 5 times in my life time - without notice, and no effect on the solor system.
Yep, the media makes a scary headline out of the mundane.
Tomorrow- Humans caught exhaling greenhouse gasses
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Quite frankly, I never heard of the event. And if it is something that happenes every 11 years as the story says that means in has happened 5 times in my life time - without notice, and no effect on the solor system.
I remember the flip when I was 12/13. Magnificent aurora, was even visible during the day. We also lost TV for a few days, the ionosphere was completely messed up.
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You also remember that the Earth's magnetic poles also flips. There some scientists believe that the magnetic flipping is starting. The Earths magnetic field has lost 10 percent of its strength.
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You also remember that the Earth's magnetic poles also flips. There some scientists believe that the magnetic flipping is starting. The Earths magnetic field has lost 10 percent of its strength.
The flipping is due the dynamo processes at the center of the earth. The last flipping of the poles took place 800,000 years ago
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You also remember that the Earth's magnetic poles also flips. There some scientists believe that the magnetic flipping is starting. The Earths magnetic field has lost 10 percent of its strength.
Yep - every 300,000 years or so.
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Yep - every 300,000 years or so.
So we are in the time frame of another flip
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So we are in the time frame of another flip
Everybody alive thinks they are living in a paradigm shift of sorts....whether it's political or environmental.
A shift of the poles should certainly mean global earthquakes of biblical proportions where entire continents may disappear under the seas....and new ones born.
God's way of flushing the toilet.
The 'trick' is to find a place where it might give you the best chance of being the 'new' world's caveman. :laugh:
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Everybody alive thinks they are living in a paradigm shift of sorts....whether it's political or environmental.
A shift of the poles should certainly mean global earthquakes of biblical proportions where entire continents may disappear under the seas....and new ones born.
God's way of flushing the toilet.
The 'trick' is to find a place where it might give you the best chance of being the 'new' world's caveman. :laugh:
We really do not know what to expect. The last time this was experienced was when our ancestors were barely climbing out of the trees. And you are correct that this will have a direct effect of our standard of living and may throw us back to the stone age . We are seeing some chinks in the armor. The South Atlantic Anomaly is a place where the the Earths magnetic density is at its lowest. In the 1960s we tested under Project Argus what would an atmosphereic nuclear weapon might do at this area
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We really do not know what to expect. The last time this was experienced was when our ancestors were barely climbing out of the trees. And you are correct that this will have a direct effect of our standard of living and may throw us back to the stone age . We are seeing some chinks in the armor. The South Atlantic Anomaly is a place where the the Earths magnetic density is at its lowest. In the 1960s we tested under Project Argus what would an atmosphereic nuclear weapon might do at this area
The tests where conducted in the late 1950s with three missiles
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Everybody alive thinks they are living in a paradigm shift of sorts....whether it's political or environmental.
A shift of the poles should certainly mean global earthquakes of biblical proportions where entire continents may disappear under the seas....and new ones born.
God's way of flushing the toilet.
The 'trick' is to find a place where it might give you the best chance of being the 'new' world's caveman. :laugh:
Won't be quite that bad. :laugh:
We have a reasonable idea that the continents will stay intact. They have done the last few times.
Might be an idea to stay indoors under a slate or metal roof though. The weaker the magnetic field gets, the more charged particles get through. Normally it wouldn't matter, but if we happen to get a jackpot year - both sets of poles flipping at the same time - it could cause huge problems.
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Won't be quite that bad. :laugh:
We have a reasonable idea that the continents will stay intact. They have done the last few times.
Might be an idea to stay indoors under a slate or metal roof though. The weaker the magnetic field gets, the more charged particles get through. Normally it wouldn't matter, but if we happen to get a jackpot year - both sets of poles flipping at the same time - it could cause huge problems.
The threat of an increase in charged particles, including cosmic rays, is probably one of the more significant risks. Even now, "[a]irline crews flying long distance high-altitude routes can be exposed to 2.2 mSv of extra radiation each year due to cosmic rays, nearly doubling their total ionizing radiation exposure." Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray#Role_in_ambient_radiation). Even the temporary loss of Earth's magnetic field would dramatically increase the amount of radiation everyone - other than perhaps miners deep underground - absorbs.
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The threat of an increase in charged particles, including cosmic rays, is probably one of the more significant risks. Even now, "[a]irline crews flying long distance high-altitude routes can be exposed to 2.2 mSv of extra radiation each year due to cosmic rays, nearly doubling their total ionizing radiation exposure." Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray#Role_in_ambient_radiation).
Charged particles, huh?
That makes it sound as though the sun is an electrical phenomenon...
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Charged particles, huh?
That makes it sound as though the sun is an electrical phenomenon...
Huh?? You do know where cosmic rays come from, don't you? And you do realize that the comment was made in the context of the Earth's magnetic field, not the Sun's magnetic field, don't you?
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Huh?? You do know where cosmic rays come from, don't you? And you do realize that the comment was made in the context of the Earth's magnetic field, not the Sun's magnetic field, don't you?
S'cuse me. I thought you were talking about the sun...
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Won't be quite that bad. :laugh:
We have a reasonable idea that the continents will stay intact. They have done the last few times.
Might be an idea to stay indoors under a slate or metal roof though. The weaker the magnetic field gets, the more charged particles get through. Normally it wouldn't matter, but if we happen to get a jackpot year - both sets of poles flipping at the same time - it could cause huge problems.
The last time it flipped 300,000 years ago it did not have a power grid to deal with. Just imagine the world's power system going kaput all at once. From going the 21st century to horse and buggy in a matter of seconds.
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The threat of an increase in charged particles, including cosmic rays, is probably one of the more significant risks. Even now, "[a]irline crews flying long distance high-altitude routes can be exposed to 2.2 mSv of extra radiation each year due to cosmic rays, nearly doubling their total ionizing radiation exposure." Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray#Role_in_ambient_radiation). Even the temporary loss of Earth's magnetic field would dramatically increase the amount of radiation everyone - other than perhaps miners deep underground - absorbs.
It's not going to be particularly good for any satellites outside the Van Allen belts, either. That would be most of them. Sensitive electronics and ions don't exactly play nice together at the best of times.
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The last time it flipped 300,000 years ago it did not have a power grid to deal with.
Most of the power grid will cope. I'm betting a few local failures with the very oldest substations, tops.
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It's not going to be particularly good for any satellites outside the Van Allen belts, either. That would be most of them. Sensitive electronics and ions don't exactly play nice together at the best of times.
What I worry about is a powerful Gamma X-Ray Burst(Pulsar) striking the Earth. Its been theorized that this has caused extinctions in the past on Earth
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Most of the power grid will cope. I'm betting a few local failures with the very oldest substations, tops.
I do not think so. Many of our systems were built in the 1950s and even not hardended against EMP bursts. The US government is currently as of last week of running tests of a EMP attack
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It's not going to be particularly good for any satellites outside the Van Allen belts, either. That would be most of them. Sensitive electronics and ions don't exactly play nice together at the best of times.
true enough. what about electronics down on the surface? the information network in which we're now immersed, and which many twenty somethings take for granted the same way most of us take the air for granted, depends crucially on electronics that, to put it lightly, are ill-prepared to deal with significantly increased radiation of that sort. Without knowing enough to make any sort of accurate prognostication, it seems to me possible that we may be shorn of that network, leaving many younger folk feeling naked and disabled.
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I do not think so. Many of our systems were built in the 1950s and even not hardended against EMP bursts. The US government is currently as of last week of running tests of a EMP attack
Here is the article
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/11/power-grid-down-drill-to-be-conducted-by-us-government-2456182.html
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true enough. what about electronics down on the surface? the information network in which we're now immersed, and which many twenty somethings take for granted the same way most of us take the air for granted, depends crucially on electronics that, to put it lightly, are ill-prepared to deal with significantly increased radiation of that sort. Without knowing enough to make any sort of accurate prognostication, it seems to me possible that we may be shorn of that network, leaving many younger folk feeling naked and disabled.
Below the surface yes they will survive but above no. A 2012 report by the National Academy of Science said terrorists could cripple the nation by damaging or destroying hard-to-replace components, some of which aren’t even made in the United States.The GridEX II drill Nov. 13-14 will focus primarily on how governments will react if the electrical grid fails and, for instance, the food supply chain collapses.
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Below the surface yes they will survive but above no. A 2012 report by the National Academy of Science said terrorists could cripple the nation by damaging or destroying hard-to-replace components, some of which aren’t even made in the United States.
As far as I know, many of the large server farms are above ground.
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As far as I know, many of the large server farms are above ground.
I believe you are correct.
:beer:
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Peer-to-peer would also be disrupted as that operates on users' own computers, which are quite susceptible to damage of this sort.
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Peer-to-peer would also be disrupted as that operates on users' own computers, which are quite susceptible to damage of this sort.
You are right
:beer:
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The last time it flipped 300,000 years ago it did not have a power grid to deal with. Just imagine the world's power system going kaput all at once. From going the 21st century to horse and buggy in a matter of seconds.
How do you know that people 300,000 years ago had no power grid?
"We" may have been more advanced than we are today.
They can't even agree when or how the pyramids were built.
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How do you know that people 300,000 years ago had no power grid?
"We" may have been more advanced than we are today.
They can even agree when or how the pyramids were built.
The fossil record proved they did not electricity. That was invented by Faraday in 1821 through his electric motor.Michael Faraday formed the foundation of electric motor. You can argue that Thales and Benjamin Franklin and their interest in electricity
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How do you know that people 300,000 years ago had no power grid?
"We" may have been more advanced than we are today.
They can even agree when or how the pyramids were built.
Hey now. We aren't going to stand for any of that 'roun here...
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The fossil record proved they did not electricity. That was invented by Faraday in 1821 through his electric motor.Michael Faraday formed the foundation of electric motor. You can argue that Thales and Benjamin Franklin and their interest in electricity
Fossil records my a$$.
Maybe they just ain't looking in the right place?
Oceans cover 2/3 of the planet's surface today.
"Today" being the key word.
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Hey now. We aren't going to stand for any of that 'roun here...
:laugh:
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Fossil records my a$$.
Maybe they just ain't looking in the right place?
Oceans cover 2/3 of the planet's surface today.
"Today" being the key word.
They have pretty much have convincing evidence from the fossil record. Unless you are a creationist.
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Peer-to-peer would also be disrupted as that operates on users' own computers, which are quite susceptible to damage of this sort.
That is going to be the huge problem. The server farms themselves - assuming they are using Blade servers (which most do now), you'll notice something odd about the frame config. It is basically a giant Faraday cage already. As long as it is grounded they'll only need the breakers to be reset, a reboot and they are good to go.
Consumer electronics, on the other hand, are going to be problematic. I don't know how many of you have tried to use public wifi or video chat recently, but the signal is terrible and frequently drops, and that is only from the sun spot maximum.
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They have pretty much have convincing evidence from the fossil record. Unless you are a creationist.
OMG, we certainly can't have any of *those* people posting to this site...
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That is going to be the huge problem. The server farms themselves - assuming they are using Blade servers (which most do now), you'll notice something odd about the frame config. It is basically a giant Faraday cage already. As long as it is grounded they'll only need the breakers to be reset, a reboot and they are good to go.
Consumer electronics, on the other hand, are going to be problematic. I don't know how many of you have tried to use public wifi or video chat recently, but the signal is terrible and frequently drops, and that is only from the sun spot maximum.
I agree
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Consumer electronics, on the other hand, are going to be problematic. I don't know how many of you have tried to use public wifi or video chat recently, but the signal is terrible and frequently drops, and that is only from the sun spot maximum.
Huh? Solar activity is extremely low as is sunspot activity. (http://rt.com/news/solar-activity-cycle-maximum-114/)
How can sunspots and/or solar activity be the problem when both are extremely low?
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Huh? Solar activity is extremely low as is sunspot activity. (http://rt.com/news/solar-activity-cycle-maximum-114/)
How can sunspots and/or solar activity be the problem when both are extremely low?
Like Vinnie Barbarino....."I'm so confused!!" :laugh:
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That is going to be the huge problem. The server farms themselves - assuming they are using Blade servers (which most do now), you'll notice something odd about the frame config. It is basically a giant Faraday cage already. As long as it is grounded they'll only need the breakers to be reset, a reboot and they are good to go.
Consumer electronics, on the other hand, are going to be problematic. I don't know how many of you have tried to use public wifi or video chat recently, but the signal is terrible and frequently drops, and that is only from the sun spot maximum.
However, if the servers use external storage sources, the data may be corrupted even if the equipment continues to function. Also, for servers that are network booted, if the network components are damaged, it might be impossible to reboot the servers even if they themselves are undamaged.
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However, if the servers use external storage sources, the data may be corrupted even if the equipment continues to function. Also, for servers that are network booted, if the network components are damaged, it might be impossible to reboot the servers even if they themselves are undamaged.
You are more of a tech fan than I, so I take your word. :laugh:
I do suspect that most critical off site storage is caged also - it costs virtually nothing extra to cage a vault. Physical media, such as DVD's will be unaffected. Much of the old ARPAnet is not only still functional and in use every day, but hardened. Fiber optics will be unaffected. The transatlantic cable has a couple of miles of water shielding it. and water is a very good damper for ions.
The capacity will be there, but the question is will anyone be able to use it? Might be an idea to grab one of your old laptops and a cheap metal cabinet. Put the laptop in the cabinet and ground the cabinet to any convenient pipework.
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You are more of a tech fan than I, so I take your word. :laugh:
I do suspect that most critical off site storage is caged also - it costs virtually nothing extra to cage a vault. Physical media, such as DVD's will be unaffected. Much of the old ARPAnet is not only still functional and in use every day, but hardened. Fiber optics will be unaffected. The transatlantic cable has a couple of miles of water shielding it. and water is a very good damper for ions.
The capacity will be there, but the question is will anyone be able to use it? Might be an idea to grab one of your old laptops and a cheap metal cabinet. Put the laptop in the cabinet and ground the cabinet to any convenient pipework.
It may cost virtually nothing to shield a vault but that is by no means a guarantee that it's actually been done. I'll grant that the commercial infrastructure is more robust than the end users' devices, and I've little doubt that large financial institutions and governments have taken such precautions with their systems; however, I am less sure about the degree to which many server farms have taken such precautions.
There are also all manner of other devices to consider, other than the servers themselves: there are all of the switching devices used within the networks themselves through which communications from server to user pass; if those are sufficiently disrupted it will matter little that the servers are unscathed.
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It may cost virtually nothing to shield a vault but that is by no means a guarantee that it's actually been done. I'll grant that the commercial infrastructure is more robust than the end users' devices, and I've little doubt that large financial institutions and governments have taken such precautions with their systems; however, I am less sure about the degree to which many server farms have taken such precautions.
There are also all manner of other devices to consider, other than the servers themselves: there are all of the switching devices used within the networks themselves through which communications from server to user pass; if those are sufficiently disrupted it will matter little that the servers are unscathed.
Every facet of the military that uses a computer would be EMP protected especially USSTRATCOM/SAC especially planes such as LOOKING GLASS,E-6B TACAMO and Air Force One.
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Every facet of the military that uses a computer would be EMP protected especially USSTRATCOM/SAC especially planes such as LOOKING GLASS,E-6B TACAMO and Air Force One.
Of course; that's hardly the concern. The concern is with the ordinary commercial and consumer systems, most of which are only lightly protected, if at all.
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Of course; that's hardly the concern. The concern is with the ordinary commercial and consumer systems, most of which are only lightly protected, if at all.
You are correct. DHS has this at the bottom of their list of concerns. It is usually up to the states that control these things.The private Utility Companies run the power grid again but the states can take over and do something about it. I believe that several states have already started to take notice of the problem. I believe the article I linked mentions it.
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/11/power-grid-down-drill-to-be-conducted-by-us-government-2456182.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/15/us/coast-to-coast-simulating-onslaught-against-power-grid.html?_r=0
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You are correct. DHS has this at the bottom of their list of concerns. It is usually up to the states that control these things.The private Utility Companies run the power grid again but the states can take over and do something about it. I believe that several states have already started to take notice of the problem. I believe the article I linked mentions it.
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/11/power-grid-down-drill-to-be-conducted-by-us-government-2456182.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/15/us/coast-to-coast-simulating-onslaught-against-power-grid.html?_r=0
The problem with private companies running essential infrastructure.
Don't get me wrong, I approve of private companies and the free market - but there is always the temptation to skimp and cut corners to maximize profits. EMP hardening is simply not that expensive if done during installation of the cables and switches. Retrofitting is a whole other kettle of cod. Costs a ton, irate customers have the phones ringing 24/7.
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The problem with private companies running essential infrastructure.
Don't get me wrong, I approve of private companies and the free market - but there is always the temptation to skimp and cut corners to maximize profits. EMP hardening is simply not that expensive if done during installation of the cables and switches. Retrofitting is a whole other kettle of cod. Costs a ton, irate customers have the phones ringing 24/7.
But I'm not entirely sure just how "essential" is the internet infrastructure, at the least that part of it that is typically used by consumer users. Even so, there are some companies that provide hardened resources, so the resources are there, it's up to the user to pick based on her/his appetite for risk.
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This website is about as credible as DEBKA, and that ain't saying much.
The title is misleading and inflammatory and has absolutely no place in the world of the sane. It is insulting to have to repeat this over and over and over but here we go again.
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This website is about as credible as DEBKA, and that ain't saying much.
The title is misleading and inflammatory and has absolutely no place in the world of the sane. It is insulting to have to repeat this over and over and over but here we go again.
It seems that a major newspaper is backing up the story. Unless the NYT is lying about this program. it seems that both stories compliment themselves. That is why I posted both stories together.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/15/us/coast-to-coast-simulating-onslaught-against-power-grid.html?_r=1&
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Don't get me wrong, I approve of private companies and the free market - but there is always the temptation to skimp and cut corners to maximize profits. EMP hardening is simply not that expensive if done during installation of the cables and switches. Retrofitting is a whole other kettle of cod. Costs a ton, irate customers have the phones ringing 24/7.
That is why states energy commissions needs to keeps an eye on such things. They also need to report to Congress energy commission and Department of Homeland Security about their plans to tackle this problem. Its going to cost a lot of money to upgrade the system but it is better than zapping us back to the 19th century and causing panic.
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That is why state regulators such as the states energy commissions needs to keeps an eye in things such as the California ISO. They also need to report to Congress energy commission and Department of Homeland Security about their plans to tackle this problem. Its going to cost a lot of money buts better than zapping us back to the 19th century and causing panic.
Well, we could with equal certitude say something like "I approve of personal choice in health care - but there's always the temptation to skimp and cut corners on health insurance, and health insurance isn't so very expensive if you get it at the beginning, when you're young and healthy; waiting until you're old or sick is a whole other kettle of cod. So the federal and state governments need to keep eyes on these things and take steps to make sure that people do it the correct way and buy insurance when they're young and healthy. ...." I.e., Obamacare.
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Well, we could with equal certitude say something like "I approve of personal choice in health care - but there's always the temptation to skimp and cut corners on health insurance, and health insurance isn't so very expensive if you get it at the beginning, when you're young and healthy; waiting until you're old or sick is a whole other kettle of cod. So the federal and state governments need to keep eyes on these things and take steps to make sure that people do it the correct way and buy insurance when they're young and healthy. ...." I.e., Obamacare.
That is why they have Inspector General's offices in government to issue report waste and fraud.An Inspector general leads an organization charged with examining the actions of a government agency, military organization, or military contractor as a general auditor of their operations to ensure they are operating in compliance with generally established policies of the government, to audit the effectiveness of security procedures, or to discover the possibility of misconduct, waste, fraud, theft, or certain types of criminal activity by individuals or groups related to the agency's operation, usually involving some misuse of the organization's funds or credit. In the United States, there are numerous offices of inspector general at the federal, state, and local levels.
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That is why they have Inspector General's offices in government to issue reports to report waste and fraud
And that's why we have Obamacare - to prevent people from being free riders by not buying insurance and taking advantage of the hospitals and the emergency rooms when they get sick, or stiffing the hospitals and the doctors by running up the bills and then declaring bankruptcy.
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And that's why we have Obamacare - to prevent people from being free riders by not buying insurance and taking advantage of the hospitals and the emergency rooms when they get sick, or stiffing the hospitals and the doctors by running up the bills and then declaring bankruptcy.
I do not know if Obamacare has an IG but most parts of government have IGs. If it does it would be part of HHS IG.
U.S. offices of inspector general[edit]
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Agency for International Development (AID-OIG)[20]
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General Services Administration (GSA-OIG)[30]
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Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC-OIG)[37]
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Railroad Retirement Board (RRB-OIG)[39]
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State, Department of — Office of Inspector General (OIG) for the U.S. Department of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) (DOS-OIG)[42]
Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA-OIG)[43] inline
Transportation, Department of (DOT-OIG)[44]
Treasury, Department of the (Treasury OIG)[45]
Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) of the Department of the Treasury[46]
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National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak)[48] inline
Appalachian Regional Commission (ARC-OIG)[49]
Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC-OIG)[50]
Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC-OIG)[51]
Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPD-OIG)[52]
Denali Commission, The[53]
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Federal Housing Finance Board (FHFB-OIG)[59]
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International Trade Commission, U.S. (USITC-OIG)[64]
Legal Services Corporation (LSC-OIG)[65]
National Archives and Records Administration[66]
National Credit Union Administration (NCUA-OIG)[67]
National Endowment for the Arts (NEA-OIG)[68]
National Endowment for the Humanities (NEH-OIG)[69]
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB-OIG)[70]
National Science Foundation (NSF-OIG)[71]
Peace Corps[72]
Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC-OIG)[73]
Postal Regulatory Commission (formerly Postal Rate Commission) (PRC-OIG)[74]
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Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC-OIG)[75]
Smithsonian Institution[76]
Special inspectors general
Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR)[77] - appointed by President
Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) - appointed by Secretary of Defense in consultation with Secretary of State
Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (SIGTARP)[78] - appointed by President with Senate confirmation
Legislative agency inspectors general
Architect of the Capitol (AOC-OIG)[79]
Capitol Police, U.S. (USCP-OIG)[80]
Government Accountability Office (GAO-OIG)[81]
Government Printing Office (GPO-OIG)[82]
Library of Congress (LOC-OIG)[83]
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U.S. military[edit]
Within the United States Armed Forces, the position of inspector general is normally part of the personal staff serving a general or flag officer in a command position. The inspector general's office functions in two ways. To a certain degree they are ombudsmen for their branch of service. However, their primary function is to ensure the combat readiness of subordinate units in their command.
An armed services inspector general also investigate noncriminal allegations and some specific criminal allegations, to include determining if the matter should be referred for criminal investigation by the service's criminal investigative agency.
The Air Force Inspector General Complaints Program, described in the Airman's Guide by Boone Nicolls, was established to address the concerns of Air Force active duty, reserve, and Guard members, civilian employees, family members, and retirees, as well as the interest of the Air Force. One of the first responsibilities of the Air Force inspector general is to operate a credible complaints program that investigates personnel complaints: Fraud, Waste, and Abuse (FWA) allegations; congressional inquiries; and issues involving the Air Force mission. Personnel complaints and FWA disclosures to the IG help commanders correct problems that affect the productivity, mission accomplishment, and morale of assigned personnel, which are areas of high concern to Air Force leaders at all levels.[84]
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Naval Inspector General, established by the U.S. Navy in 1942.
Office of the Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense established 1978.
Obamacare is not listed
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I do not know if Obamacare has an IG but most parts of government have IGs. If it does it would be part of HHS IG.
You're missing the point. But I'm not really interested in flogging that point so I'll just drop it.
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I listed all the IG's above and Obamacare is not listed
Let's get back to EMP, cosmic rays, and their effects on electronics. What about cars? Would a greater incidence of cosmic radiation, in the absence of a strong magnetic field, play havoc with today's electronically controlled cars?
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Let's get back to EMP, cosmic rays, and their effects on electronics. What about cars? Would a greater incidence of cosmic radiation, in the absence of a strong magnetic field, play havoc with today's electronically controlled cars?
A Gamma ray from outer space will do significant damage because its a focused narrow beam... It would significant have harm to the environment.The major Ordovician-Silurian extinction event of 450 million years ago may have been caused by a GRB.
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The sun is obviously racist for flipping on Obama's watch. Does this mean the sun was for its position before it was against it? :whistle:
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The sun is obviously racist for flipping on Obama's watch. Does this mean the sun was for its position before it was against it? :whistle:
There is no such thing as 'upsidedown' in space. It is upsidedown relative to what? 'Up' is a human mental construct and in fact means, 'the opposite way that gravity is pulling'. If you are on the equator and point 'up', you would actually be pointing sideways, according to the mental construct of the human universe.
The magnetic flip of the sun is obviously the result of policies put in place by George Bush well before der Fuhrer II rose to power. We have to stop this. It is rampant 'climate change' that we caused. We have to give Al Gore and the U.N. another couple hundred billion dollars immediately, to get this under control.
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There is no such thing as 'upsidedown' in space. It is upsidedown relative to what? 'Up' is a human mental construct and in fact means, 'the opposite way that gravity is pulling'. If you are on the equator and point 'up', you would actually be pointing sideways, according to the mental construct of the human universe.
Actually, since the earth is tilted as it revolves on its axis, pointing 'up' while standing on the equator would not necessarily be pointing sideways.
...but your point is well taken. :laugh:
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Actually, since the earth is tilted as it revolves on its axis, pointing 'up' while standing on the equator would not necessarily be pointing sideways.
...but your point is well taken. :laugh:
But again, it all depends on what the term "sideways" means. If you're on the equator, then you're at a point where you're perpendicular to the axis of rotation, and so can be said to be pointing sideways when you point in a direction that is perpendicular to the axis of rotation - which would be pointing straight up at the equator.
Since the Earth's tilt has to do with its orbit around the Sun and not with its own rotation, "sideways" would appear to mean something like "in the direction of the neighboring member of the Solar System." Since the Earth's axis is tilted, you would not be pointing "sideways" in this sense if you pointed up from the equator because you would not be pointing at a neighboring member of the Solar System.
It's all about context.
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Don't go dragging frames of reference into it and confusing everyone! :smokin:
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Since the Earth's tilt has to do with its orbit around the Sun and not with its own rotation, "sideways" would appear to mean something like "in the direction of the neighboring member of the Solar System." Since the Earth's axis is tilted, you would not be pointing "sideways" in this sense if you pointed up from the equator because you would not be pointing at a neighboring member of the Solar System.
It's all about context.
Actually... since equivalent coordinate-systems are physically indistinguishable under GR, it's all about belief...