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Title: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: rangerrebew on January 25, 2024, 01:22:46 pm
 California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Story by David Zimmermann • 17h


A California Democrat introduced bill this week that would require automakers in the state to equip new vehicles with speed governors — devices that restrict how fast people can drive.

The technology, if passed under the legislation, would prevent California drivers from going 10 mph or more over the posted speed limit in any given area. The bill would mandate that cars and trucks of the 2027 model year or later that are manufactured or sold in California be installed with speed governors.


State senator Scott Wiener, a Democrat who represents San Francisco, introduced SB 961 on Wednesday to reduce the number of traffic deaths in the Bay Area and in California, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

“The tragic reality is that a lot of people are being severely injured or dying on our streets in San Francisco and throughout the country, and it’s getting worse,” Wiener told the Bay Area newspaper.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/california-bill-would-require-new-cars-come-equipped-with-speed-limiting-device/ar-BB1hcHOL?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=547a8929ef11409e9ec6886ef9f6d146&ei=52
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: rangerrebew on January 25, 2024, 01:23:29 pm
Do these clowns really think that will do anything other than spike the cost of cars? :shrug:
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: mountaineer on January 25, 2024, 01:24:18 pm
Another cottage industry arises - disabling the latest round of nannystate devices on new cars.
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 25, 2024, 04:02:29 pm
Do these clowns really think that will do anything other than spike the cost of cars? :shrug:
Not to mention that there are times when going faster, if for only a minute is what will keep you alive.
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on January 25, 2024, 04:09:32 pm
"Hot" PROM's (Programmable Read-Only Memory) will be all the rage on the Black Market.

New Government Restriction = New Criminal Opportunity
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: DB on January 25, 2024, 04:27:53 pm
The only way this will work is if your car is connected to GPS and the nanny state via cellular or satellite connection.

Any attempts to disable it will likely result in large fines because they will track your car live.
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: PeteS in CA on January 25, 2024, 05:14:59 pm
So, an electronic controller that could fail the depends on electronic communication that could fail or be hacked? Oh! Hades! No!
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 25, 2024, 05:17:01 pm
So, an electronic controller that could fail the depends on electronic communication that could fail or be hacked? Oh! Hades! No!
This is why I am keeping my 20th century vehicles going.
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: The_Reader_David on January 25, 2024, 07:36:19 pm
The only way this will work is if your car is connected to GPS and the nanny state via cellular or satellite connection.

Any attempts to disable it will likely result in large fines because they will track your car live.

Um, no.  Speedometers on automobiles measured the speed of the vehicle for decades before there was such a thing as GPS, and new cars, for instance my Mazda Miata RF, have the ability to read speed limit signs and display the last speed limit read somewhere near the speedometer.  All you need is to use the data from the two to prevent acceleration beyond the posted speed plus 10 mph.
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: mountaineer on January 25, 2024, 08:38:54 pm
This is why I am keeping my 20th century vehicles going.
I may have to learn how to drive my 1922 Chevy. At least there's no computer!
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 25, 2024, 09:20:01 pm
I may have to learn how to drive my 1922 Chevy. At least there's no computer!
Keep a spare magneto in a faraday cage and you will be able to go after a major EMP, too. (just don't lose the crank).
From the first autos into the mid 1970s there were no computers. I have three that fit that group, one with a 460 engine (very capable of exceeding posted limits, even if I don't drive it that way).
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: roamer_1 on January 25, 2024, 10:32:42 pm
Another cottage industry arises - disabling the latest round of nannystate devices on new cars.

That is nothing new, btw...
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: bigheadfred on January 25, 2024, 10:43:30 pm
That is nothing new, btw...

Punching a hole through the guts of a catalytic converter and running on regular gas.
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: DB on January 25, 2024, 11:50:44 pm
Um, no.  Speedometers on automobiles measured the speed of the vehicle for decades before there was such a thing as GPS, and new cars, for instance my Mazda Miata RF, have the ability to read speed limit signs and display the last speed limit read somewhere near the speedometer.  All you need is to use the data from the two to prevent acceleration beyond the posted speed plus 10 mph.

Perhaps. So if you were in a 15 mile an hour zone and your camera fails to capture the change to 55, too bad for you? Your stuck at 25 until you can find another sign? People could just post fake signs to screw with people if that's all it took. It won't be.

Google maps knows the speed limits but has to know your location to do it. Government wants to tax you based on the miles you travel and on what roads. When they do it, it won't be benign. It opens the door to many other government desires to track you.
Title: Re: California Bill Would Require New Cars Come Equipped with Speed-Limiting Device
Post by: roamer_1 on January 25, 2024, 11:55:34 pm
Punching a hole through the guts of a catalytic converter and running on regular gas.

yeah... and rednecks have been defeating governors since Hector was a pup...