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Title: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: rangerrebew on October 16, 2013, 08:58:19 pm
Ex-Navy SEAL Drops Bombshell On FOX: Says Government Is CREATING Conditions To Impose Martial Law (Oct 15, 2013 Video Report)

Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:56



Ex-US Navy SEAL Ben Smith joins Fox News and drops a bombshell on the US government by revealing that the government ITSELF is CREATING the conditions necessary to impose martial law here in America. This is a must watch video for those who feel martial law is merely believed by conspiracy theorists. Veterans and US Navy SEALS see the same thing!

VIDEO

http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2013/10/ex-navy-seal-drops-bombshell-on-fox-says-government-is-creating-conditions-to-impose-martial-law-oct-15-2013-video-report-2457518.html

Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 16, 2013, 09:58:11 pm
Seems pretty apparent to me.  For instance, beginning Nov 1 the USDA is cautioning states that SNAP (food stamp) benefits will be cut or cut back.  Guess what the results of that action wil be.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: DCPatriot on October 17, 2013, 12:54:46 am
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n151/hagemangroup/welcometothepartypal.jpg)

I said this was going to happen under this administration....BEFORE his 09 inauguration day.

Who's the 'crazy uncle'?   :whistle:
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 01:02:44 am
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n151/hagemangroup/welcometothepartypal.jpg)

I said this was going to happen under this administration....BEFORE his 09 inauguration day.

Who's the 'crazy uncle'?   :whistle:

No argument here DC.  Thought it would have happened by now.  The American people tolerate more than I ever imagined they would.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: olde north church on October 17, 2013, 01:13:12 am
It's quite paradoxical.  They are instigating, waiting for someone to make a move.  Unfortunately, it's very difficult to see the whites of their eyes when their boot is pressed down upon your neck.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: DCPatriot on October 17, 2013, 01:16:40 am
It's coming. 

Generals being fired told me all I needed to know. 

We've been in a full blown coup since Day 1 with this crew.

With a complicit media....ANYTHING is possible.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 01:19:58 am
It's coming. 

Generals being fired told me all I needed to know. 

We've been in a full blown coup since Day 1 with this crew.

With a complicit media....ANYTHING is possible.

So...have you heard from Gen James Mattis?  If so, love to get a sense of his take.
Or General Ham?  Just wonderin' who you're talking about.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Rapunzel on October 17, 2013, 01:25:32 am
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n151/hagemangroup/welcometothepartypal.jpg)

I said this was going to happen under this administration....BEFORE his 09 inauguration day.

Who's the 'crazy uncle'?   :whistle:

You and I were right, I would have preferred to be wrong.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: DCPatriot on October 17, 2013, 01:30:34 am
So...have you heard from Gen James Mattis?  If so, love to get a sense of his take.
Or General Ham?  Just wonderin' who you're talking about.

Obama has replaced much of the military general staff with his own, vetted choices.  People who are NOT registered conservative republicans...that's for sure.

He recently replaced two generals who were in charge of the nation's nukes.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/14/recent-firings-of-high-profile-generals-part-of-obamas-plan-to-create-a-martial-law-ready-military/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/14/recent-firings-of-high-profile-generals-part-of-obamas-plan-to-create-a-martial-law-ready-military/)

http://benswann.com/president-obama-fires-high-ranking-nuclear-chiefs/ (http://benswann.com/president-obama-fires-high-ranking-nuclear-chiefs/)

Personally, I think the flare-up will involve Israel.  He's NOT going to intervene on their behalf.  He's siding with the Muslims.   Ask HIM if you don't believe me.  LOL!

Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: DCPatriot on October 17, 2013, 01:33:46 am
You and I were right, I would have preferred to be wrong.

Anybody who studied 1930's Germany could 'see' the many parallels between then and what's happening here in the USA.

I fear for the lives of the 5 SCOTUS justices that have at least given us an opportunity to hold back the onslaught.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Carling on October 17, 2013, 02:12:18 am
This place is turning into Nutsville.  One guy says martial law on Fox News, and suddenly it's a fact. 

Calm down...

(http://forums.oce.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1664&d=1374487660)
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Carling on October 17, 2013, 02:13:22 am
Anybody who studied 1930's Germany could 'see' the many parallels between then and what's happening here in the USA.

I fear for the lives of the 5 SCOTUS justices that have at least given us an opportunity to hold back the onslaught.

I find this laughable, but even if not, there is nothing you or I can do about it.

Live each day with friends and family to its fullest.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 02:44:31 am
I find this laughable, but even if not, there is nothing you or I can do about it.

Live each day with friends and family to its fullest.

Please share with us the laughable changes going on all around you.  I must have missed the humorous parts.  I really could use a good laugh today.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Relic on October 17, 2013, 02:52:14 am
This place is turning into Nutsville.  One guy says martial law on Fox News, and suddenly it's a fact. 

Calm down...

(http://forums.oce.leagueoflegends.com/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=1664&d=1374487660)

 :amen:
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 17, 2013, 02:58:42 am
Anybody who studied 1930's Germany could 'see' the many parallels between then and what's happening here in the USA.

Yep, and yet it is the Republicans and Tea Party who are constantly called Nazis.  The Democrat Party is edging closer and closer to the Nazi Party, especially with their cult of personality surrounding Obama.

And I say this as someone who's specialty is the history of WWII.

You can tell from the comments liberals make all over the place, if they had their way, all of us would be liquidated at the first opportunity.  They are so filled with hatred and rage that violence is going to happen sooner or later.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: sinkspur on October 17, 2013, 03:03:54 am
Navy SEALS can be nutburgers too. 

This reminds me of the Concentration Camps that Clinton was building, with the white UN busses, that would haul us all off to wired encampments.

Do you people really believe this foolishness?
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: SlapLeather on October 17, 2013, 03:12:23 am
Navy SEALS can be nutburgers too. 

This reminds me of the Concentration Camps that Clinton was building, with the white UN busses, that would haul us all off to wired encampments.

Do you people really believe this foolishness?

* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 03:16:38 am
* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Voice of reason/experience again.  How welcome it is.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: sinkspur on October 17, 2013, 03:21:51 am
* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

I've been known to drink a bit myself.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 03:29:16 am
I've been known to drink a bit myself.

You know, dragging out that tiresome accusation against someone that you disagree with is getting old and more than aggravating.

You have done that to me and it's a despicable move and rather telling of perhaps your own inclinations.   Someone as occupied as you with intoxication probably speaks from a truck load of personal experience.

So do the honorable thing and apologize to the poster.  Something you nor your fan club ever did for me.

Thank you.  Respectfully and politely.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Cincinnatus on October 17, 2013, 03:52:11 am
I'd appreciate you leaving out the snide comments.

I've been known to drink a bit myself.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: sinkspur on October 17, 2013, 03:59:43 am
You know, dragging out that tiresome accusation against someone that you disagree with is getting old and more than aggravating.

You have done that to me and it's a despicable move and rather telling of perhaps your own inclinations.   Someone as occupied as you with intoxication probably speaks from a truck load of personal experience.

So do the honorable thing and apologize to the poster.  Something you nor your fan club ever did for me.

Thank you.  Respectfully and politely.

That poster is either drunk or nuts. 

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Cincinnatus on October 17, 2013, 04:01:40 am
I'd appreciate you leaving out the snide comments.

That poster is either drunk or nuts. 
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: ABX on October 17, 2013, 04:18:03 am
While I believe those in power are more and more willing to resort to force, simply because of the falling respect for individual liberty, I think we also should remember this from their playbook:

Quote
RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)- Rules for Radicals

I am a firm believer that many of these stories (especially the over the top ones like FEMA concentration camps, etc) are meant for just this reason, to make people feel more and more helpless. Install the fear of the threat of violence so people won't speak out. Make the people fear, if you speak out, we'll turn the military on you... now go about your business and watch Honey Boo Boo, buy burgers, and run that credit card up. 

The story costs almost nothing but it can do as much damage as the real thing.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Carling on October 17, 2013, 04:22:52 am
Do those posting in this thread about martial law REALLY believe it?  Because if so, wow.   :thud:

I can't stand Obama.  I think he's the worst thing to happen in my lifetime, but in order for him to declare martial law, he needs to first have the public behind him, which he does not, and also needs to have the military behind him, which I don't believe to be the case.

If anything, Obama should be worried about a coup on the White House, if history tells us anything. 
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: ABX on October 17, 2013, 04:24:58 am
Do those posting in this thread about martial law REALLY believe it?  Because if so, wow.   :thud:

I can't stand Obama.  I think he's the worst thing to happen in my lifetime, but in order for him to declare martial law, he needs to first have the public behind him, which he does not, and also needs to have the military behind him, which I don't believe to be the case.

If anything, Obama should be worried about a coup on the White House, if history tells us anything.

Not at all, I just believe they like to have the story out there to create fear (see previous post).
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 04:29:54 am
While I believe those in power are more and more willing to resort to force, simply because of the falling respect for individual liberty, I think we also should remember this from their playbook:

I am a firm believer that many of these stories (especially the over the top ones like FEMA concentration camps, etc) are meant for just this reason, to make people feel more and more helpless. Install the fear of the threat of violence so people won't speak out. Make the people fear, if you speak out, we'll turn the military on you... now go about your business and watch Honey Boo Boo, buy burgers, and run that credit card up. 

The story costs almost nothing but it can do as much damage as the real thing.

Your response, with due respect, does not address the immediate subject of the post which equates to the clearly evident circumstances being orchestrated to justify the calling for 'martial law' to be instituted.

No one here spoke of FEMA camps and such. 

By the way, in the past 18 months, have you personally encountered delays acquiring certain caliber ammo?  Just curious.

Late Edit:  From your response in the Obamacare related thread:

As more and more of this is hashed out, I'm sure we'll find a lot of crazy stuff happening that we wouldn't believe at first.

Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: SlapLeather on October 17, 2013, 04:40:50 am
While I believe those in power are more and more willing to resort to force, simply because of the falling respect for individual liberty, I think we also should remember this from their playbook:

I am a firm believer that many of these stories (especially the over the top ones like FEMA concentration camps, etc) are meant for just this reason, to make people feel more and more helpless. Install the fear of the threat of violence so people won't speak out. Make the people fear, if you speak out, we'll turn the military on you... now go about your business and watch Honey Boo Boo, buy burgers, and run that credit card up. 

The story costs almost nothing but it can do as much damage as the real thing.

The story, as you call it, has already cost enormous amounts of money.  In fact we are being enslaved to fund the "triple gold platinum diamond studded" pay-pal account.

The "real thing" is the culmination of all 12 rules and the means to the ends.  It will necessitate martial law.  Boston embraced it not long ago.  The dry-runs are significant and increasing at an alarming rate.  Hope the EBT cards don't stop working.... Oh.. wait.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 04:46:59 am
That poster is either drunk or nuts. 

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Character assassination is then your end game.  Got it.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 04:59:28 am
Do those posting in this thread about martial law REALLY believe it?  Because if so, wow.   :thud:

I can't stand Obama.  I think he's the worst thing to happen in my lifetime, but in order for him to declare martial law, he needs to first have the public behind him, which he does not, and also needs to have the military behind him, which I don't believe to be the case.

If anything, Obama should be worried about a coup on the White House, if history tells us anything. 

Have you noted the firing/early discharges of prominent flag officers in every branch of the military?  In particular, Gen James Mattis USMC (CENTCOM), Gen Ham, and others for no particular articulated reason.

If you are naive enough to chalk this up to mere happenstance--good luck, my friend.
There can be no coup with a compliant, feminized "military". 
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Carling on October 17, 2013, 05:07:00 am
Character assassination is then your end game.  Got it.

Didn't you recently send me a Private Message about how upset your were about SEAL secrets info being made public?  Now, a SEAL goes on national TV and talks about supposed secrets, and you're calling out those questioning the SEAL?   :nometalk:
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Carling on October 17, 2013, 05:08:22 am
Have you noted the firing/early discharges of prominent flag officers in every branch of the military?  In particular, Gen James Mattis USMC (CENTCOM), Gen Ham, and others for no particular articulated reason.

If you are naive enough to chalk this up to mere happenstance--good luck, my friend.
There can be no coup with a compliant, feminized "military".

I find you to be extremely hypocritical, based on the PM you sent me regarding another thread.  If the mods allow it, or you allow it, I will post your PM to me.  If not, well, you're not being an honest poster. 
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 05:20:18 am
I find you to be extremely hypocritical, based on the PM you sent me regarding another thread.  If the mods allow it, or you allow it, I will post your PM to me.  If not, well, you're not being an honest poster. 

Do as you wish.  I think it's a wimpy thing to do, but have at it.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Rapunzel on October 17, 2013, 05:23:40 am
I have never been a fan of people sharing private emails.  The better thing to do would be take a disagreement that started by PM to PM to hash out.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 06:02:35 am
I find you to be extremely hypocritical, based on the PM you sent me regarding another thread.  If the mods allow it, or you allow it, I will post your PM to me.  If not, well, you're not being an honest poster. 

Carling, please let me and/or the forum know what I have done specifically that is hypocritical and dishonest.  It is getting late and since I have been accused, I would like the opportunity to at least understand the accusations.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: EC on October 17, 2013, 07:32:32 am
While I believe those in power are more and more willing to resort to force, simply because of the falling respect for individual liberty, I think we also should remember this from their playbook:

I am a firm believer that many of these stories (especially the over the top ones like FEMA concentration camps, etc) are meant for just this reason, to make people feel more and more helpless. Install the fear of the threat of violence so people won't speak out. Make the people fear, if you speak out, we'll turn the military on you... now go about your business and watch Honey Boo Boo, buy burgers, and run that credit card up. 

The story costs almost nothing but it can do as much damage as the real thing.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

You do not show the monster. You hint at it's presence. The reader's / watcher's imagination fills in the blanks and makes it far more terrifying than you can possible do. Think Cloverfield. It was totally terrifying - until they showed you the monster.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: famousdayandyear on October 17, 2013, 07:41:48 am
Agreed, wholeheartedly.

You do not show the monster. You hint at it's presence. The reader's / watcher's imagination fills in the blanks and makes it far more terrifying than you can possible do. Think Cloverfield. It was totally terrifying - until they showed you the monster.

Good Morning EC.  Here's a Hint:  At least nine prominent flag officers have been discharged early or forced into retirement across all services.  All with no clearly defined reasons behind the actions.  Coincidence?  Not likely. 

Yesterday, a leaked USDA memo alerted states that the SNAP program (EBT cards) will be sharply cut or cut back on Nov. 1.  Can you guess the chaos resulting from such an action--who can say what the consequences may be?
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: EC on October 17, 2013, 07:51:22 am
Morning famous!

I never believe in coincidence where government is concerned. Occasionally incompetence explains things, but never coincidence.

The discharge of the flag officers is indeed worrying. All were competent in their commands, from what I have read, and mostly well liked by their subordinates. Red flag time.

The EBT thing - I initially treated it as a threat to get the debt limit raised. An option that is there but unlikely to be acted upon. Anyone can write and leak a memo - the sad thing is I fully expect that level of misinformation now.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: DCPatriot on October 17, 2013, 11:57:01 am
I find this laughable, but even if not, there is nothing you or I can do about it.

Live each day with friends and family to its fullest.

I'm not 'worried' whatsoever....personally.

I worry for you frogs left behind.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: DCPatriot on October 17, 2013, 12:06:53 pm
Do those posting in this thread about martial law REALLY believe it?  Because if so, wow.   :thud:

I can't stand Obama.  I think he's the worst thing to happen in my lifetime, but in order for him to declare martial law, he needs to first have the public behind him, which he does not, and also needs to have the military behind him, which I don't believe to be the case.

If anything, Obama should be worried about a coup on the White House, if history tells us anything.

May I ask your age?   Because you're very naive.

Do you think that perhaps you have much more in common with the typical European Jew of the 1930's?
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 17, 2013, 12:57:12 pm
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n151/hagemangroup/welcometothepartypal.jpg)

I said this was going to happen under this administration....BEFORE his 09 inauguration day.

Who's the 'crazy uncle'?   :whistle:

Do you really think a takeover of the government would have been planned and executed in just one president's administration? If there really is a takeover plan it has definitely been in the works longer than that.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: EC on October 17, 2013, 01:03:51 pm
No L-S. It has taken decades. We just happen to be in the end game now.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 17, 2013, 01:08:02 pm
No L-S. It has taken decades. We just happen to be in the end game now.
Furthermore, if this were true, Obama would not be masterminding it. The guy responsible for trying to take over the government and do who knows what with it would not be all over TV and in view of the public. If this were true, somebody would (in my opinion) be pulling strings and controlling it from the shadows.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: EC on October 17, 2013, 01:11:57 pm
Look to the funding.

You are smart enough to follow the trail.

Obama - he's literally an empty suit. Does what he is told, when he is told.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: alicewonders on October 17, 2013, 01:13:44 pm
Furthermore, if this were true, Obama would not be masterminding it. The guy responsible for trying to take over the government and do who knows what with it would not be all over TV and in view of the public. If this were true, somebody would (in my opinion) be pulling strings and controlling it from the shadows.

The old story about the turtle and the fencepost comes to mind.  You see a turtle on top of a fencepost, you know he didn't get there by himself - someone had to put him there. 

Of course, Obama is just the puppet of a powerful and sinister group. 
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 17, 2013, 01:15:14 pm
Look to the funding.

You are smart enough to follow the trail.


Many of your fellows (possibly you, I can't remember) have insinuated that this is now a one party system, and that corruption plagues both parties. Maybe we should use this logic universally? :)
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: mountaineer on October 17, 2013, 01:16:40 pm
Furthermore, if this were true, Obama would not be masterminding it. The guy responsible for trying to take over the government and do who knows what with it would not be all over TV and in view of the public. If this were true, somebody would (in my opinion) be pulling strings and controlling it from the shadows.
(http://images.politico.com/global/081113_jarrett_frates_231.jpg)
 :shrug:
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: DCPatriot on October 17, 2013, 01:17:11 pm
Furthermore, if this were true, Obama would not be masterminding it. The guy responsible for trying to take over the government and do who knows what with it would not be all over TV and in view of the public. If this were true, somebody would (in my opinion) be pulling strings and controlling it from the shadows.

Nobody here suggested that Obama was masterminding it.   He couldn't find his a$$ in a room full of mirrors.

He just happens to be the perfect 'tool'.....for our cult-of-personality culture.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: EC on October 17, 2013, 01:27:46 pm
A one party system does not imply a single controller.

Let me give you a normal example. You are at a business conference and break for lunch. The more people in your group, the harder it is to decide where to go to eat. You have hit that problem. Everyone over the age of 10 has.
If you have two wealthy guys offering to buy the lunch, you listen to them, right? Pick the one that offers the best food.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 17, 2013, 01:41:07 pm
A one party system does not imply a single controller.

Let me give you a normal example. You are at a business conference and break for lunch. The more people in your group, the harder it is to decide where to go to eat. You have hit that problem. Everyone over the age of 10 has.
If you have two wealthy guys offering to buy the lunch, you listen to them, right? Pick the one that offers the best food.

Should we not track down and deal with all of the people that are using their money and power to control others? If politics is corrupted by money and power, and there truly is just the one party now, that means that everybody else playing the game is in on it, right? It would mean that it is just an elaborate ruse to keep the masses too confused and focused on each other to pay attention to the big problem  (which is what I've been saying since I got here).
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: EC on October 17, 2013, 01:50:40 pm
Should - hell yes!
Will - No.

It won't happen. Not until enough people say "enough." While it makes a damned fine movie (think Erin Brokovich) in real life the one with the money calls the shots.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 17, 2013, 01:52:41 pm
in real life the one with the money calls the shots.

Which is exactly why I am against rich people bribing and controlling politicians. Get money out of politics.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: musiclady on October 17, 2013, 03:25:43 pm
May I ask your age?   Because you're very naive.

Do you think that perhaps you have much more in common with the typical European Jew of the 1930's?

I agree with the 'naive' assessment, DCP.

The scoffing notwithstanding, the real problem is either an inability to understand how radical this administration is, or the denial of the reality of how much power Obama is amassing and what his goals really are.

Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: DCPatriot on October 17, 2013, 04:03:30 pm
I agree with the 'naive' assessment, DCP.

The scoffing notwithstanding, the real problem is either an inability to understand how radical this administration is, or the denial of the reality of how much power Obama is amassing and what his goals really are.

Believe me, I hate appearing like a conspiracy nut.....but geesh....it's 2+2=4.....not calculus.

I imagine there were millions of German citizens that were shocked at the turn of events as WWII commenced...but probably just a many were not surprised at all.

...exactly what we're looking at today in  the USA.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: musiclady on October 17, 2013, 04:23:25 pm
Believe me, I hate appearing like a conspiracy nut.....but geesh....it's 2+2=4.....not calculus.

I imagine there were millions of German citizens that were shocked at the turn of events as WWII commenced...but probably just a many were not surprised at all.

...exactly what we're looking at today in  the USA.

You're among a myriad of others of us who don't have a conspiratorial bone in our bodies, but realize that what we're dealing with in this administration is sinister.

I guess being called a "nut" is a small price to pay for being aware of the evil of this regime - what it has already done, and what it is planning to do.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 17, 2013, 05:06:05 pm
Just wait until Obama has the Tea Party declared a terrorist group.  We already hear the rhetoric from the left, and now it's coming from the GOPe and their allies.

If anyone thinks that Obama wouldn't do it, think again.  The left is not just content with winning elections.  Their ultimate goal is the complete and utter destruction of any and all opposition.  Just like Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 17, 2013, 05:08:24 pm
"My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."  - Judge Alex Kozinski
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Olivia on October 17, 2013, 05:14:52 pm
"My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed - where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."  - Judge Alex Kozinski

It's appalling how little information that most Americans have about the political corruption in Washington.  A great deal of the population are more interested in Survivor, or The Real Housewives to even think about what's happening to their future.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 17, 2013, 05:18:21 pm
It's appalling how little information that most Americans have about the political corruption in Washington.  A great deal of the population are more interested in Survivor, or The Real Housewives to even think about what's happening to their future.

I can understand people being concerned with their own futures, that's normal.

But we've become a dumbed down nation where it is now bread and circuses, just like Rome before it fell.

I bet 90% of the people under 40 could not do the following.

Name the President
Name the VP
Name the Speaker of the House
Name the President pro tempore of the Senate
Name the Supreme Court Justices
Name at least 1 member of the Cabinet
List the Bill of Rights or even know what it is called
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Carling on October 17, 2013, 08:01:34 pm
Open up the blinds and live a little.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Rapunzel on October 17, 2013, 08:11:47 pm
Many of your fellows (possibly you, I can't remember) have insinuated that this is now a one party system, and that corruption plagues both parties. Maybe we should use this logic universally? :)

Of course it is both parties.  How do you think the "Kentucky kickback" was orchestrated to end the shutdown.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Rapunzel on October 17, 2013, 08:18:15 pm
Should we not track down and deal with all of the people that are using their money and power to control others? If politics is corrupted by money and power, and there truly is just the one party now, that means that everybody else playing the game is in on it, right? It would mean that it is just an elaborate ruse to keep the masses too confused and focused on each other to pay attention to the big problem  (which is what I've been saying since I got here).

Lib they are not using rich people's money to bribe politicians, they are using OUR money - aka our tax money - to bribe them.  Do you thing George Soros is going to pay for the 80 billion dollar (probably more like 200 billion or more when completed) dam in Kentucky or the $2 billion McConnell got yesterday?  Nope... WE all are paying it.  They use our money to fund the unions who then give them the money they took from us to give to the unions back to the politicians to run for re-election so they can take more of our money to give back to the guys running the unions.  This is the part you are not totally grasping in your insistence on Citizens United being the problem. CU is not the problem.. earmarks and kickbacks - using our tax dollars like it is water - is the real corrupting issue.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 17, 2013, 08:50:29 pm
Lib they are not using rich people's money to bribe politicians, they are using OUR money - aka our tax money - to bribe them.  Do you thing George Soros is going to pay for the 80 billion dollar (probably more like 200 billion or more when completed) dam in Kentucky or the $2 billion McConnell got yesterday?  Nope... WE all are paying it.  They use our money to fund the unions who then give them the money they took from us to give to the unions back to the politicians to run for re-election so they can take more of our money to give back to the guys running the unions.  This is the part you are not totally grasping in your insistence on Citizens United being the problem. CU is not the problem.. earmarks and kickbacks - using our tax dollars like it is water - is the real corrupting issue.

I agree with your analysis of the problem, but I feel your analysis is incomplete, and that Citizens United is also a big part of the problem.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: EC on October 17, 2013, 08:53:44 pm
Citizens United is a problem. As are the unions. It is six of one and half a dozen of the other.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Liberal_Spy on October 17, 2013, 09:26:46 pm
Citizens United is a problem. As are the unions. It is six of one and half a dozen of the other.

I am starting to like you.
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Fishrrman on October 18, 2013, 01:25:15 am
I've been known to drink a bit myself.

That's obvious from most of your postings in this forum!  :)
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: Fishrrman on October 18, 2013, 01:45:10 am
[[ I can't stand Obama.  I think he's the worst thing to happen in my lifetime, but in order for him to declare martial law, he needs to first have the public behind him, which he does not, and also needs to have the military behind him, which I don't believe to be the case. ]]

Putting my tinfoil hat on for the reply...

If for some reason Obama went over the edge and declared martial law tomorrow, at least 30%, possibly up to 40% of the people would support him. My prediction, and I'm stickin' to it. So long az they gotz their EBT's and ObamaPhones, he's got their approval.

Perhaps he doesn't have the military behind him at the moment (by "military", I mean the support of the cadre of the highest general officers). But he and his people are certainly working on that. Women on subs, gays in the military, the purging of [Christian] religion from the military while at the same time the promotion of islam. And what about all those generals sayin' adios lately?

Maybe the assertions by the SEAL guy in the article _are_ over the top. Maybe they have no basis in reality.

But a LOT of things we've seen in the past five years would probably have seemed unbelievable a dozen years ago (or not even that long).

Only two years ago, if someone had said to you that the NSA was monitoring every phone call, every email, perhaps every credit card transaction in the country -- one would have laughed in their face. No one's laughing now.

Ten years ago, did we see police in so many places with the "shoot first and ask questions later" attitude that so many of them seem to have now?

Did we see the police at all levels literally no longer responding "as police" to many incidents, but as soldiers in fully-outfitted military gear?

Did we see formerly civilian federal agencies now armed to the teeth? Why in heck does the Railroad Retirement Board need its own SWAT team?

Remember the film "Seven Days In May"? (you can watch it free on the net)
In it, the protagonist colonel played by Kirk Douglas explains to the president about "capabilities" -- that is, moving things into place to facilitate specific action later on. In the movie, the capabilities were designed to support a coup against the civilian order.

The militarization of the police, the militarization of civilian agencies (presumably to bypass Posse Comitatus), combined with a national surveillance system beyond any previously assembled, represent "capabilities" of a sort.

Nothing concrete, yet.
But the capabilites are being moved into place.

Tin foil hat off now!
Title: Re: Navy SEAL: Government is creating conditions to impose martial law.
Post by: rangerrebew on October 22, 2013, 05:16:14 pm
Yep, and yet it is the Republicans and Tea Party who are constantly called Nazis.  The Democrat Party is edging closer and closer to the Nazi Party, especially with their cult of personality surrounding Obama.

And I say this as someone who's specialty is the history of WWII.

You can tell from the comments liberals make all over the place, if they had their way, all of us would be liquidated at the first opportunity.  They are so filled with hatred and rage that violence is going to happen sooner or later.

Replace "Tea Party" with "Juden" and you see how close we are coming. :thud: