The Briefing Room

State Chapters => Texas => Topic started by: Elderberry on August 12, 2018, 05:48:38 pm

Title: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wasting ti
Post by: Elderberry on August 12, 2018, 05:48:38 pm
Houston Chronicle By Kevin Diaz 8/12/2018

EL PASO — Beto O'Rourke likes to tell the story of a campaign stop in Archer City, a highway junction of about 1,750 souls on the north central plains that was portrayed as a dying Texas town in "The Last Picture Show."

On his way to a town hall at Murn's Cafe, O'Rourke says a local approached him with a picture of his dad posing with Lyndon Johnson in 1948. As far as anyone could recall, LBJ's stop — he landed in a helicopter in front of the courthouse — was the last time a Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate had campaigned there.

O'Rourke's visit came during a sweep of all 254 counties in Texas over the past year. Many of the miles were clocked in a white Dodge Grand Caravan. It was a trip that would have been easy to dismiss as a one-time campaign stunt. But this month, he was back in rural West Texas as he launched a 34-day road trip across the state.

It's a new playbook, born of Democratic futility in Texas.

The first three days of O'Rourke's journey took him 765 zig-zagging miles — from a friendly, Latin-flavored send-off in downtown El Paso to sparsely-attended stops in gun-friendly Republican strongholds like Muleshoe, in Bailey County, where he would get quizzed by skeptical locals about the Second Amendment.

The time and effort the El Paso congressman is investing in small-town Texas has become a hallmark of his small-dollar, no-PAC campaign to unseat incumbent GOP Sen. Ted Cruz, a former presidential candidate and conservative icon who won the state by 16 points in 2012.

It also represents a quantum shift in Democratic strategy in the Lone Star State, which has always relied on running up the numbers in the large urban enclaves of Austin, Houston and San Antonio. The desolate cow towns that dot the state's vast expanses make wonderful backdrops for homey political campaigns, but the resources O'Rourke is throwing at his statewide strategy suggest that it's about more than creating a Norman Rockwell tableau.

More: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Beto-O-Rourke-has-chance-of-beating-Ted-Cruz-13141321.php (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Beto-O-Rourke-has-chance-of-beating-Ted-Cruz-13141321.php)
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: austingirl on August 13, 2018, 04:37:35 pm
Beatoff is wasting gas and time coming to rural areas. He should stick to the big cities where they love and understand corruption.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: thackney on August 13, 2018, 04:51:34 pm
Archer County went 88% for Trump in 2016.

https://elections.sos.state.tx.us/elchist319_race62.htm

They voted 83% for Cruz in 2012.

https://elections.sos.state.tx.us/elchist164_race832.htm

In the 2016 Republican Primary for President, they were 49% for Cruz and 29% for Trump.

https://elections.sos.state.tx.us/elchist273_race62.htm

In 2016 Democrat Primary for President, they had 161 voters show up, compared to 2,470 in the Republican.

https://elections.sos.state.tx.us/elchist233_race62.htm

Good Luck with that.



Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2018, 04:54:26 pm
Is he winning or is he just:

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlbR8H2hJZM&ab_channel=Sebser#)
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 13, 2018, 05:04:25 pm
800 people came to see him last night. When Cruz came to town, according to local reports, 150 people showed up.

A lot of this it seems, is how the media built it up. I found 3 articles announcing Francis's visit before it happened. The local rag didn't report on Cruz's visit until after the fact.

Political demographic wise, it should still be an easy win for Cruz, but he still should fight like he is 20 points down. Take nothing for granted. These Whataburger jokes are backfiring. Even Whataburger tweeted a mockery of it.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: corbe on August 13, 2018, 05:33:19 pm
   Archer City is what Larry McMurtry based his epic 'The Last Picture Show' on.  20 years ago when I was there I observed that it is still a depressing little town.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Picture_Show (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Picture_Show)
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 13, 2018, 05:40:40 pm
800 people came to see him last night. When Cruz came to town, according to local reports, 150 people showed up.

A lot of this it seems, is how the media built it up. I found 3 articles announcing Francis's visit before it happened. The local rag didn't report on Cruz's visit until after the fact.

Political demographic wise, it should still be an easy win for Cruz, but he still should fight like he is 20 points down. Take nothing for granted. These Whataburger jokes are backfiring. Even Whataburger tweeted a mockery of it.

I'm seeing the same thing.
I am hearing a lot about Cruz visiting several towns, but only after the fact.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Sanguine on August 13, 2018, 07:18:25 pm
I'm seeing the same thing.
I am hearing a lot about Cruz visiting several towns, but only after the fact.

Same here.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 13, 2018, 07:31:49 pm
Same here.

Reports of 750-1000 in Tyler today. (I'm actually surprised who all I know who I see go and cheer for him, people I never thought would support a Democrat- they are caught up in the pop culture game).

The last time I found that Cruz was in Tyler, he visited a group of 25 doctors.


Take nothing for granted, fight like you are 20 points down because if you don't your opponent will.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 13, 2018, 07:41:04 pm
Some quotes on Facebook by friends and associates I know from yesterday and today's events. (names redacted).

This one is from a lady who owns a large real-estate agency who I thought was a Trumper. (she may have been, about pop culture, not party)
Quote
Pumped about BETO! Standing room only! More than 800 cheering him on. Proud my daughter Hope and couple of her buds decided to see what Beto is all about. Go next generation!

Small business owner:
Quote
Took my and my ex-hubs recycling to Gladewater yesterday. If course I was wearing my Beto for Texas T. Made sure everyone there was registered to vote and invited them all to come see Beto today!
Also from her
Quote
Republicans, voting for Beto is the first step to erasing the hatred running rampant in this beautiful country.

Attorney and multiple business owner (and very right leaning usually):
Quote
Beto is in Longview today. Normally I wouldn’t go see him, but Sen. Cruz makes him sound totally awesome. Mr. Senator, I know you’re not from here, but you realize we ❤️ #whataburger, right?

Retired business owner:
Quote
Beto brought the house down today at the Summit Club In Longview. Standing room only , over 800 people! Beto really gave a powerful message today regarding teachers & his plan to increase their pay & lower their insurance costs!

Salon owner (only about 20 years old):
Quote
Beto was great! I even got to personally ask him a question pertaining to my first amendment rights.


I've been seeing this stuff all yesterday and today from people I never would have suspected would support him. Either business owners, some who lean Conservative (and past Republicans) and young people who usually wouldn't even be involved.





Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2018, 08:23:56 pm
Remember when the vocal "majority" said Hillary was a shoe in?

Yeah... hold that thought Paddy O'Furnature supporters. 
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 13, 2018, 08:28:44 pm
Remember when the vocal "majority" said Hillary was a shoe in?

Yeah... hold that thought Paddy O'Furnature supporters.

The point is not to be complacent. If you go in with the attitude it is a 'shoe in', and so does your neighbor, and so does their neighbor, and so on, pretty soon, enough could decide it is no big deal if they don't go to vote or just sit at home instead of volunteer.

Right now, there is a big vacancy in Republican volunteers throughout the State. People just aren't showing up to work, to man phones, to put out signs. They think it isn't a battle they have to fight for.

Complacency kills.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Idiot on August 13, 2018, 09:03:10 pm
The point is not to be complacent. If you go in with the attitude it is a 'shoe in', and so does your neighbor, and so does their neighbor, and so on, pretty soon, enough could decide it is no big deal if they don't go to vote or just sit at home instead of volunteer.

Right now, there is a big vacancy in Republican volunteers throughout the State. People just aren't showing up to work, to man phones, to put out signs. They think it isn't a battle they have to fight for.

Complacency kills.

Sen. Cruz was here last week.  He just doesn't come across well as a speaker.  I love his stances on issues....but no charisma at all.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 13, 2018, 09:05:14 pm
Sen. Cruz was here last week.  He just doesn't come across well as a speaker.  I love his stances on issues....but no charisma at all.

That's sad because he can be an absolute brilliant speaker. Especially when he is off the cuff.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Sanguine on August 13, 2018, 10:06:16 pm
Sen. Cruz was here last week.  He just doesn't come across well as a speaker.  I love his stances on issues....but no charisma at all.

I really don't understand when people say that.  I've heard him a number of times and he's a great speaker.  Did you go to the event?

But, he does not come across well on TV.  Not sure why, but he frequently doesn't.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 13, 2018, 11:43:35 pm
What's he talking about on the campaign trail?  What are Cruz's top three "to do" items?

Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Elderberry on August 13, 2018, 11:59:57 pm
"Most candidates run on a list of issues, but Ted has always run on his record."

Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Sanguine on August 14, 2018, 12:20:38 am
What's he talking about on the campaign trail?  What are Cruz's top three "to do" items?


Here's the blurb from a recent email:

Quote

August 12, 2018

Greetings,

This week, I had the pleasure of visiting our brave servicemen and women and Texas military communities during my statewide ‘Texas Defends America’ tour, which included Lackland, Goodfellow and Dyess Air Force Bases and Fort Hood. At these bases, I received updates on training operations and long-term investments that will benefit and improve our military. I am proud to have secured over 30 provisions in FY19 NDAA which benefit Texas and support America’s national security interests at home and abroad. In the challenging environment we live in today, peace through strength is best achieved with a strong, well-funded military. There is no state in the union that loves and values our active duty military and our veterans the way the state of Texas does.

On Wednesday, I participated in a ‘Defend & Reform’ town hall hosted by Concerned Veterans for America (CVA) in San Angelo, where I answered questions from attendees and discussed the issues affecting veterans and their families. As a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, I fight for our military service members and work to ensure that meaningful reform is occurring at the Department of Veterans Affairs to properly support them when they transition to civilian life. That’s why I introduced the V.E.T. Protection Act earlier this year following a January 2017 Government Accountability Office (GAO) Report concerning the abuse of official time practices and union activities by employees at the VA. Each year, VA employees spend over a million hours on union organizing and other activities instead of caring for veterans. That is an enormous amount of time that should be devoted to our veterans. My bill would limit the amount of time VA employees can devote to union activity. The central mission of the VA should be caring for veterans, not spending time on political activities.

I also visited the Coast Guard Air Station in Houston, where I received an update on Coast Guard operations conducted in South Texas, a briefing on the lessons learned following Hurricane Harvey, and the preparations taking place for the 2018 hurricane season. Hurricane Harvey was unlike anything Texas had ever seen before, and without the help of the brave men and women of the U.S. Coast Guard, many Texans would not have made their way through it. Without hesitation, and despite facing personal loss and property damage to their own homes, the Coast Guardsmen jumped into action and led rescue and recovery efforts. Texas continues to rebuild stronger than ever, and we owe these brave men and women our gratitude. From the floodwaters of hurricanes to the shores of foreign conflict, Texas continues to lead the nation in military readiness and defense.

As we continue to rebuild from the unprecedented devastation from Hurricane Harvey, we must also take all steps necessary to prepare for the hurricane season ahead. For those seeking information or assistance during the recovery and rebuilding process, please do not hesitate to contact my office or use the federal and state resources listed here. For those seeking preparedness information and resources, please refer to the federal and state resources listed here.

Please read below for an update from this last week.

Keep Texas Strong,
 
Ted Cruz
 
Sen. Cruz issued a statement applauding the administration's enforcement of U.S. sanctions on Iran. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz kicked off the ‘Texas Defends America' tour, a week-long tour of Texas military bases, with a visit to Military City, USA. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz (R-Texas) on Tuesday continued his ‘Texas Defends America’ tour, a week-long tour of Texas military bases, with a visit to the Coast Guard Air Station in Houston. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz on Wednesday continued his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Goodfellow Air Force Base. Read more...
 
On Wednesday, Sen. Cruz participated in a ‘Defend & Reform' town hall hosted by Concerned Veterans for America (CVA) in San Angelo as part of his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz on Thursday continued his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Dyess Air Force Base where he received an update on the B-1 bomber force, C-130J airlift operations, and preparations for the B-21 “Raider,” a long-range strike bomber. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz on Friday continued his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Georgetown, where he participated in a ceremony hosted by ‘Helping a Hero.' Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz issued a statement in response to Hamas's escalating terror attacks in Israel. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz on Friday concluded his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Fort Hood. Read more...
 
Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz kicked off the ‘Texas Defends America' tour, a week-long tour of Texas military bases, with a visit to Military City, USA. Read more...
 
 
Sen. Cruz (R-Texas) on Tuesday continued his ‘Texas Defends America’ tour, a week-long tour of Texas military bases, with a visit to the Coast Guard Air Station in Houston. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz on Wednesday continued his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Goodfellow Air Force Base. Read more...
 
On Wednesday, Sen. Cruz participated in a ‘Defend & Reform' town hall hosted by Concerned Veterans for America (CVA) in San Angelo as part of his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz on Thursday continued his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Dyess Air Force Base where he received an update on the B-1 bomber force, C-130J airlift operations, and preparations for the B-21 “Raider,” a long-range strike bomber. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz on Friday continued his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Georgetown, where he participated in a ceremony hosted by ‘Helping a Hero.' Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz issued a statement in response to Hamas's escalating terror attacks in Israel. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz on Friday concluded his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Fort Hood. Read more...
 
The full press releases may be viewed here.

 

Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: austingirl on August 14, 2018, 12:43:02 am
Some quotes on Facebook by friends and associates I know from yesterday and today's events. (names redacted).

This one is from a lady who owns a large real-estate agency who I thought was a Trumper. (she may have been, about pop culture, not party)
Small business owner:Also from her
Attorney and multiple business owner (and very right leaning usually):
Retired business owner:
Salon owner (only about 20 years old):

I've been seeing this stuff all yesterday and today from people I never would have suspected would support him. Either business owners, some who lean Conservative (and past Republicans) and young people who usually wouldn't even be involved.

@AbaraXas

Maybe you can tell your FB buddies that when Cruz was arguing in front of the Supreme Court, Beatoff was playing in a band and driving drunk. :shrug:
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2018, 12:44:27 am
"Most candidates run on a list of issues, but Ted has always run on his record."

Cruz is running on his Senate record?
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2018, 12:48:15 am

Here's the blurb from a recent email:

That's quite a blurb  :laugh:

And I walk away convinced Cruz is pro-military.  And that's good.

Immigration?  Border security?  Taxes?  Healthcare? --- What agenda is he taking back to the Senate with him?

The bottom line for most voters, Republican, Democrat and Independent is:  What's in it for me?   What's Cruz's answer to this?

Thanks.

@Sanguine








Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Elderberry on August 14, 2018, 12:54:30 am
Cruz is running on his Senate record?

Does that surprise you?

He does have related job experience before he was elected senator.

From 1999 to 2003, he held various government positions; Cruz served as Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), as an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the U.S. Justice Department, and as a Domestic Policy Advisor to George W. Bush on the 2000 George W. Bush presidential campaign. Cruz served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008, having been appointed by Texas Attorney General, and later Governor, Greg Abbott. He was the longest-serving Solicitor General in Texas history, and was the first Hispanic American to serve in that capacity. From 2004 to 2009, Cruz was an Adjunct Professor at the University of Texas School of Law in Austin, Texas, where he taught U.S. Supreme Court litigation.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: catfish1957 on August 14, 2018, 12:57:47 am
Cruz is running on his Senate record?

You have a problem with his voting record in the senate?
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2018, 01:01:12 am
Does that surprise you? 

A little bit.  But this may be because I'm just not aware of Cruz's successes in the Senate.  Can he point to legislation with his name on it?

Maybe it's more important to speak with specificity about what he's going to fight for in the Senate.  I listed a couple of big item tickets like immigration, border security, taxes, health care .... maybe talk about what he plans to do in his second term.

I don't know what's going on with this campaign, which is why I ask these questions.  I come from one POV:  Hold the damn seat.

I've read here that Cruz's victory is a near certainty....the question is how large a victory he will win.  I'm hoping these guys are right.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2018, 01:03:31 am
You have a problem with his voting record in the senate?

Of course not.  But perhaps a campaign is also helped by a track record of successful initiatives.  This is what I am unaware of.  If I've just missed them, please let me know.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: KittenClaws on August 14, 2018, 01:09:10 am
You have a problem with his voting record in the senate?

As a Trump supporter and a Texan, I have this to contribute:

I voted for  Cruz during the primary due to loyalty, and Cruz reperesents Texas.

I voted Trump in the general.

The point?

It makes no difference who goes where and says what...Texans will vote for Cruz because he's one of us, and regardless of what y'all have heard, he has fought well for Texas and Texans.  True Texans are not easily diswayed..
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Sanguine on August 14, 2018, 01:24:16 am
Of course not.  But perhaps a campaign is also helped by a track record of successful initiatives.  This is what I am unaware of.  If I've just missed them, please let me know.

Thanks.


@Right_in_Virginia, answering your prior question.  From what I have heard directly from Cruz, he is (and, some of this is me reading between the lines here, so be warned that it's my interpretation of what he said) he doesn't feel much can be done in the Senate right now and principled senators need to, at a minimum, hold the line and try to inch good things forward.  He appears to be disgusted at how 0bamacare has gone, and says that there is no way the Senate is going to actually repeal it now (big surprise, huh?).  One of his main things is keeping Texas strong and red.   
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2018, 01:29:55 am

@Right_in_Virginia, answering your prior question.  From what I have heard directly from Cruz, he is (and, some of this is me reading between the lines here, so be warned that it's my interpretation of what he said) he doesn't feel much can be done in the Senate right now and principled senators need to, at a minimum, hold the line and try to inch good things forward.  He appears to be disgusted at how 0bamacare has gone, and says that there is no way the Senate is going to actually repeal it now (big surprise, huh?).  One of his main things is keeping Texas strong and red.

I share his frustration on Obamacare ... although a lot has been changed via EO's the changes do need to be codified in law.

Has he spoken about what he'd fight for/stand for regarding immigration and border security. --- What he'd like to accomplish with a stronger majority in the Senate?   I'm guessing here, but this would seem like important issues in Texas.

@Sanguine
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Sanguine on August 14, 2018, 01:36:23 am
I share his frustration on Obamacare ... although a lot has been changed via EO's the changes do need to be codified in law.

Has he spoken about what he'd fight for/stand for regarding immigration and border security. --- What he'd like to accomplish with a stronger majority in the Senate?   I'm guessing here, but this would seem like important issues in Texas.

@Sanguine

He has addressed illegal immigration and the subsequent crime at every event I have attended.  He's for the wall and it needs to be funded and built.  Also go after employers, and EVerify. 
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2018, 01:37:46 am
He has addressed illegal immigration and the subsequent crime at every event I have attended.  He's for the wall and it needs to be funded and built.  Also go after employers, and EVerify.

Good, good, good.  This article had me feeling a little nervous.  I'm feeling better now.  Thanks. 

@Sanguine
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: corbe on August 14, 2018, 02:36:33 am
   Your Cruz hate is showing @Right_in_Virginia and I'm OK with it.  I don't get all bent out of shape, hell I make fun of him a lot, we're all adults here but to answer your very valid question: He's done a hell of a lot more than your two local losers, Kaine & Warner.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 14, 2018, 02:44:08 am
   Your Cruz hate is showing @Right_in_Virginia and I'm OK with it. 

Bite me @corbe   Your knee-jerk, sloppy, vapid posts are tedious.  After reading them people lose 20 IQ points.

Stop dragging me into your  :bs:



Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Idiot on August 14, 2018, 02:05:05 pm

Here's the blurb from a recent email:
Sen. Cruz on Thursday continued his statewide ‘Texas Defends America' tour with a visit to Dyess Air Force Base where he received an update on the B-1 bomber force, C-130J airlift operations, and preparations for the B-21 “Raider,” a long-range strike bomber.

Yup...that's what he spoke on here.  Dyess is in the running to get the B-21.  We currently have a fleet of B-1's...absolutely amazing planes to watch.  Naturally our liberal newspaper was complaining that Sen. Cruz hadn't been here in years.  Gotta love the liberal press.....
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Idiot on August 14, 2018, 02:07:27 pm
As a Trump supporter and a Texan, I have this to contribute:

I voted for  Cruz during the primary due to loyalty, and Cruz reperesents Texas.

I voted Trump in the general.

The point?

It makes no difference who goes where and says what...Texans will vote for Cruz because he's one of us, and regardless of what y'all have heard, he has fought well for Texas and Texans.  True Texans are not easily diswayed..

He absolutely has fought well for Texans...no doubt about it.  However...Beto the Irish Hispanic....is putting up a good fight.  I'm not sure how, since he's to the left of Pelosi....but it sure seems that way.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: austingirl on August 14, 2018, 10:19:52 pm
He absolutely has fought well for Texans...no doubt about it.  However...Beto the Irish Hispanic....is putting up a good fight.  I'm not sure how, since he's to the left of Pelosi....but it sure seems that way.

Beto has the press on his side, that's how. All of his appearances are covered like the Second Coming.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: catfish1957 on August 14, 2018, 10:50:38 pm
He absolutely has fought well for Texans...no doubt about it.  However...Beto the Irish Hispanic....is putting up a good fight.  I'm not sure how, since he's to the left of Pelosi....but it sure seems that way.

I just hope there are enough of us Texans left who remember how badly the dims squandered the oil tax windfalls we saw duing the boom days.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 15, 2018, 05:00:36 am
Bite me @corbe   Your knee-jerk, sloppy, vapid posts are tedious.  After reading them people lose 20 IQ points.

Stop dragging me into your  :bs:

@Right_in_Virginia , then I suggest you put @corbe on ignore, like I've done with the most of the virulent Chairborne Rangers of the Orange Brigade.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 15, 2018, 10:43:09 am
@Right_in_Virginia , then I suggest you put @corbe on ignore, like I've done with the most of the virulent Chairborne Rangers of the Orange Brigade.

Thanks for the suggestion @Night Hides Not but this is not up to you.

Ask your buddy to stop pinging me.   Or tell the rest of your story walking.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Gefn on August 15, 2018, 10:55:19 am
I’d like to ask my friends here who are Texans, is this really a tight race?

Is an upset possible?

I’m sorry haven’t been following it, I’m worried about Menendez here in NJ.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: thackney on August 15, 2018, 11:56:51 am
I’d like to ask my friends here who are Texans, is this really a tight race?

Is an upset possible?

I’m sorry haven’t been following it, I’m worried about Menendez here in NJ.

In my opinion, Cruz will win by a double digit lead.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Gefn on August 15, 2018, 12:09:11 pm
In my opinion, Cruz will win by a double digit lead.

I’ve liked Sen Cruz since I saw him filibuster and read “Green Eggs and Ham” to his daughters. He reminded me of my late dad, even though dad was a die hard FDR Democrat. Plus, Cruz went to Princeton, but that’s not saying much because so did Mrs. Obama and current Supreme Court Justices Kagan and Sotomeyer.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: jpsb on August 15, 2018, 01:11:27 pm
Beto brought the house down today at the Summit Club In Longview. Standing room only , over 800 people! Beto really gave a powerful message today regarding teachers & his plan to increase their pay & lower their insurance costs!

Not No but hell No!

Meet The Texas Teachers $100,000 Club: 7,300 Six-Figure Salaries Cost Taxpayers $903 Million (https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/07/18/meet-the-texas-teachers-100000-club-7300-six-figure-educators-cost-taxpayers-903-million/#3418259e10ae)
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: thackney on August 15, 2018, 01:17:28 pm
Beto brought the house down today at the Summit Club In Longview. Standing room only , over 800 people! Beto really gave a powerful message today regarding teachers & his plan to increase their pay & lower their insurance costs!

Not No but hell No!

Meet The Texas Teachers $100,000 Club: 7,300 Six-Figure Salaries Cost Taxpayers $903 Million (https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/07/18/meet-the-texas-teachers-100000-club-7300-six-figure-educators-cost-taxpayers-903-million/#3418259e10ae)

 all 2017 Texas Education Agency payroll data
https://www.openthebooks.com/search/?PensionCode=4802&F_fiscalyear=2017&F_employeenm= (https://www.openthebooks.com/search/?PensionCode=4802&F_fiscalyear=2017&F_employeenm=)
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: jpsb on August 15, 2018, 01:18:02 pm
Cruz is running on his Senate record?

If you are a Republican that (running on your Senate record) is a very hard thing to do. Since other
than confirm judges, the GOP Senate has not done a damn thing.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: catfish1957 on August 15, 2018, 01:20:12 pm
In my opinion, Cruz will win by a double digit lead.

I'm a little less optimistic.  Rourky has become the darling of the TX MSM, and they are giving him glowing press coverage at every stop.   

I think the "sheeple" effect with limit Cruz' victory to somewhere in the neighborhood of 5%.  It will be really tight until Cruz destroys him in the debates.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: thackney on August 15, 2018, 01:22:29 pm
I'm a little less optimistic.  Rourky has become the darling of the TX MSM, and they are giving him glowing press coverage at every stop.

Was Abortion Barbie treated any differently by them?
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: jpsb on August 15, 2018, 01:25:50 pm
He has addressed illegal immigration and the subsequent crime at every event I have attended.  He's for the wall and it needs to be funded and built.  Also go after employers, and EVerify.

Cruz's re-election battle will happen in Sept. If Trump fights the do nothing GOP Senate over border
security, The Wall and immigration policy than Cruz wins. If Trump goes back on this word and does
not push for all of the above then it's not a certainty that enough GOP voters will show up to reelect
Cruz. The GOP base will be very depress if our number one issue is not address this year.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: catfish1957 on August 15, 2018, 01:25:57 pm
Was Abortion Barbie treated any differently by them?
No, but I think the dynamics are a tad different this time.  Add the fact I wonder how much of the trashy mud slinging by DJT in '16 stuck
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 15, 2018, 01:29:04 pm
I’d like to ask my friends here who are Texans, is this really a tight race?

Is an upset possible?

I’m sorry haven’t been following it, I’m worried about Menendez here in NJ.

Realistically, Cruz will win. If I had to predict now, I would guess by 6-8 points.

However, in politics nothing is assured. So don't take anything for granted.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: jpsb on August 15, 2018, 01:33:11 pm
I’d like to ask my friends here who are Texans, is this really a tight race?

Is an upset possible?

I’m sorry haven’t been following it, I’m worried about Menendez here in NJ.

This is a voter turnout race and the Rats are highly motovated to turn out. So it all depends on what
the Senate does with the budget THIS YEAR. Mitch and Paul have both said they will not fund the
wall. "Maybe next year". Mitch and Paul are doing everything they can to depress GOP turn out. So
yes Cruz could lose, it all depends on Trump. Does he fight and motovate the base or does he
give up on the issue that elected him.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Sanguine on August 15, 2018, 01:38:24 pm
No, but I think the dynamics are a tad different this time.  Add the fact I wonder how much of the trashy mud slinging by DJT in '16 stuck

Yes, that last part worries me too.  Even some folks here still buy into all of that.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Sanguine on August 15, 2018, 01:49:03 pm
 :dontfeed:
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 15, 2018, 04:40:41 pm
Beto has the press on his side, that's how. All of his appearances are covered like the Second Coming.

True
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 15, 2018, 04:46:19 pm
Was Abortion Barbie treated any differently by them?

No, and I saw bumper sticker for in other states, which I found odd.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 15, 2018, 04:48:08 pm
Yes, that last part worries me too.  Even some folks here still buy into all of that.

My concern as well.
Republicans who bought into that stay home.
I hope not.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Idiot on August 15, 2018, 05:45:58 pm
Beto brought the house down today at the Summit Club In Longview. Standing room only , over 800 people! Beto really gave a powerful message today regarding teachers & his plan to increase their pay & lower their insurance costs!

Not No but hell No!

Meet The Texas Teachers $100,000 Club: 7,300 Six-Figure Salaries Cost Taxpayers $903 Million (https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/07/18/meet-the-texas-teachers-100000-club-7300-six-figure-educators-cost-taxpayers-903-million/#3418259e10ae)
:amen:
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 15, 2018, 05:57:00 pm
Realistically, Cruz will win. If I had to predict now, I would guess by 6-8 points.

However, in politics nothing is assured. So don't take anything for granted.

I assure you if it's anywhere close boxes of ballots will be found in car trunks (CAR TRUNKS, in Texas?!?!?!).  They'll break about 90% for one party.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Elderberry on August 16, 2018, 02:59:56 pm
Senator Ted Cruz is coming to Victoria, this Saturday, 18 August, 2018

What:  Rally

When:  Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 1:00 pm

Where:  Power Avenue House, 402 E Power Ave. Victoria Texas.

Why:  Senator Cruz wants to meet you, please come out and give him a big Victoria welcome.

If you have any questions please contact Vanessa Hicks Callaway at 915 356 0195, jvcallaway@aol.com or Bill Pozzi at 361 727 7029.

https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/calendar/community/u-s-senator-ted-cruz-rally-event/event_705f56c0-a11a-11e8-bee3-5cb9017b8da0.html (https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/calendar/community/u-s-senator-ted-cruz-rally-event/event_705f56c0-a11a-11e8-bee3-5cb9017b8da0.html)
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Elderberry on August 16, 2018, 03:06:27 pm
More Ted Cruz Events

Fri, Aug 17 2:30 PM
Ted Cruz Retail Stop in Pleasanton
Cafe Chris, Pleasanton


Fri, Aug 17 6:00 PM
Ted Cruz Meet & Greet in Alice
VFW Hall, Alice

Sat, Aug 18 10:00 AM
Ted Cruz Retail Stop in Corpus Christi
House of Rock, Corpus Christi


Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 16, 2018, 03:12:50 pm
I assure you if it's anywhere close boxes of ballots will be found in car trunks (CAR TRUNKS, in Texas?!?!?!).  They'll break about 90% for one party.

Pickup beds. :)
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: catfish1957 on August 16, 2018, 03:58:39 pm
Pickup beds. :)

True, I know of very few guys who drive cars.  P/U Trucks are mandatory here.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 16, 2018, 04:01:01 pm
True, I know of very few guys who drive cars.  P/U Trucks are mandatory here.

I actually haven't had a truck in years. I'm picking up my new small sized SUV today that I've had on order for months and months.

I really would like to get a truck again but the prices are going through the roof. A Ford F150 nicely equipped now costs more than a luxury European crossover SUV.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2018, 04:01:45 pm
True, I know of very few guys who drive cars.  P/U Trucks are mandatory here.

The ones with the emblems "Texas Edition"  always crack me up!
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 16, 2018, 04:09:45 pm
True, I know of very few guys who drive cars.  P/U Trucks are mandatory here.

Yep, I have one.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: ABX on August 16, 2018, 04:31:18 pm
The ones with the emblems "Texas Edition"  always crack me up!

That emblem can tack on $15K to the price. F150 Texas Edition- $55K. http://www.vernonautogroup.com/new/Ford/2018-Ford-F-150-b05bd37d0a0e0ae803cbc8651bd280bc.htm (http://www.vernonautogroup.com/new/Ford/2018-Ford-F-150-b05bd37d0a0e0ae803cbc8651bd280bc.htm)
Everything is bigger in Texas, especially our special edition prices.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Sanguine on August 16, 2018, 04:35:50 pm
Yep, I have one.


Me too.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2018, 04:41:35 pm
I had a chevy (Isuzu) LUV once.   333cleo
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Bigun on August 16, 2018, 04:45:32 pm

Me too.

Who doesn't?
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: catfish1957 on August 16, 2018, 04:54:04 pm

Me too.

Love my Titan, even though I did go through some initial ribbing for having a Japanese P/U truck.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: thackney on August 16, 2018, 04:58:27 pm
True, I know of very few guys who drive cars.  P/U Trucks are mandatory here.

And Beto is touring in a minivan...
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2018, 04:59:44 pm
And Beto is touring in a minivan...

Seriously? 
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: thackney on August 16, 2018, 05:02:01 pm
Seriously?

From the article of this thread:

O'Rourke's visit came during a sweep of all 254 counties in Texas over the past year. Many of the miles were clocked in a white Dodge Grand Caravan.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: catfish1957 on August 16, 2018, 05:03:58 pm
From the article of this thread:

O'Rourke's visit came during a sweep of all 254 counties in Texas over the past year. Many of the miles were clocked in a white Dodge Grand Caravan.

Just when I was thinking he was conducting a gaffe free campaign. :silly:
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2018, 05:04:13 pm
From the article of this thread:

O'Rourke's visit came during a sweep of all 254 counties in Texas over the past year. Many of the miles were clocked in a white Dodge Grand Caravan.

If he ever had a man card... they should revoke it .
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: Elderberry on August 16, 2018, 05:06:02 pm
I have never bought anything except pickups. My 53 Willys jeep has a bed in it, so its a pickup too, right? And my 2 sons drive pickups. My daughter drives a jeep.
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: thackney on August 16, 2018, 05:42:47 pm
I have never bought anything except pickups. My 53 Willys jeep has a bed in it, so its a pickup too, right? And my 2 sons drive pickups. My daughter drives a jeep.

I have to say, I miss my lifted 4x4 1994 2 door Bronco.  I miss it most when I'm trying to get in and out of a tight spot with my crew-cab long-bed F250.

 - - - - - - -

Wait, removable rear top means it was a pick up as well.  But living in Alaska, that top never came off.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GmxvAUJQwOM/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Beto O'Rourke is covering 250 miles a day to win over rural Texans. Is he winning or just wastin
Post by: corbe on August 16, 2018, 09:22:48 pm
   Bet it wouldn't surprise anyone here that I drive a Dodge Caravan, being the small little man that I am....... 
   Gonna trade it in for a new Dodge car next year, since I'm retired and no longer need the room to haul crap around in.
   Brother-in-Law is a Dodge mechanic and gets my Mopar parts cheap.

(https://dodgeforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/96-turbo-caravan-burnout-600.jpg)