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Title: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: Suppressed on February 02, 2018, 05:27:01 pm
The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
6:37 a.m. ET
http://theweek.com/speedreads/752706/pentagon-reportedly-fears-gives-trump-military-options-north-korea-hell-use (http://theweek.com/speedreads/752706/pentagon-reportedly-fears-gives-trump-military-options-north-korea-hell-use)

National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster and others in the White House are growing frustrated at what they see as the Pentagon's reluctance to provide President Trump with plans to attack North Korea, The New York Times reports (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/01/us/politics/white-house-pentagon-north-korea.html), citing officials. McMaster reportedly argues that for Trump's threats of "fire and fury" to be credible, he has to have military options, from a "bloody nose" strike to attempting to take out Pyongyang's entire nuclear arsenal. The Pentagon, the Times says, fears "giving the president too many options ... could increase the odds that he will act."

Tensions have bubbled up with the news that Trump dropped his nomination of Victor Cha to be ambassador to South Korea because, Cha says (http://theweek.com/speedreads/752133/ambassador-candidate-dropped-by-trump-administration-warns-against-preventive-strikes-north-korea), he pushed hard against a military strike against North Korea. But they've been simmering for months, the Times reports:

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Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: WarmPotato on February 02, 2018, 10:50:24 pm
Eh, with all the corruption in the FBI, I'm skeptical towards the pentagon too
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: Victoria33 on February 02, 2018, 11:10:26 pm
@Suppressed
@CatherineofAragon

Before he was elected, I said his teen-age to adult behavior causing chaos every day, would lead him to start a war so he could be the "best ever winner" of a war.  I still think that.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: endicom on February 02, 2018, 11:22:39 pm
Eh, with all the corruption in the FBI, I'm skeptical towards the pentagon too


I'm skeptical of this story.

Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: WingNot on February 02, 2018, 11:24:49 pm
@Suppressed
@CatherineofAragon

Before he was elected, I said his teen-age to adult behavior causing chaos every day, would lead him to start a war so he could be the "best ever winner" of a war.  I still think that.

Next time you have a thought.  Let it go.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: anubias on February 02, 2018, 11:33:06 pm
Next time you have a thought.  Let it go.

It’s mind-boggling.  The man has managed to fight off and survive all the attacks coming for him from every direction and there are some that still think he’s crazy, stupid, and has the emotional stability of a teenager.  With the stress he has handled, the man has to have nerves of steel.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: Oceander on February 02, 2018, 11:52:49 pm
It’s mind-boggling.  The man has managed to fight off and survive all the attacks coming for him from every direction and there are some that still think he’s crazy, stupid, and has the emotional stability of a teenager.  With the stress he has handled, the man has to have nerves of steel.


That’s ridiculous.  The one has nothing to do with the other.  Just because someone is capable of tending off attacks doesn’t make him any more or less a psychopath.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: WingNot on February 03, 2018, 12:14:01 am
That’s ridiculous.  The one has nothing to do with the other.  Just because someone is capable of tending off attacks doesn’t make him any more or less a psychopath.

Nice to see you refer to the POTUS as a psychopath.  Nice job.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: Oceander on February 03, 2018, 12:17:11 am
Nice to see you refer to the POTUS as a psychopath.  Nice job.

I said more or less. That you simply assumed I was stating a fact says a lot about you and your prejudices. 
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: WingNot on February 03, 2018, 12:23:49 am
I said more or less. That you simply assumed I was stating a fact says a lot about you and your prejudices.

Oh Bullshit.  More or less we know how you roll with your feelings of the  POTUS.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: INVAR on February 03, 2018, 12:26:08 am
Eh, with all the corruption in the FBI, I'm skeptical towards the pentagon too

You should be.

You think for once second after the Arab Spring, Benghazi, the Global Warming focus and the sexual experimentation petri Dish Obama turned everything into there that it isn't as wholly corrupted and filled with 'deep staters' as the other Alphabets?

Presidents come and go.  Political officers and analysts and Alphabet agents remain long after.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: Oceander on February 03, 2018, 12:59:45 am
Oh Bullshit.  More or less we know how you roll with your feelings of the  POTUS.

Yeah, I think he’s a bit of an azshole, a bit of an idiot, and a loose cannon who revels in creating problems and messes - like reality TV - but I don’t think he’s a psychopath and wouldn’t give him that much credit.  Psychopaths tend to have more self-control than he does. 

I think that on balance he’ll end up being a mediocre president like Bush II. 
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: WingNot on February 03, 2018, 01:27:45 am
Yeah, I think he’s a bit of an azshole, a bit of an idiot, and a loose cannon who revels in creating problems and messes - like reality TV - but I don’t think he’s a psychopath and wouldn’t give him that much credit.  Psychopaths tend to have more self-control than he does. 

I think that on balance he’ll end up being a mediocre president like Bush II.

On balance? I don't give a rats ass about a popularity contest and poll ratings.   
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: Fishrrman on February 03, 2018, 01:38:35 am
Aren't there Olympic games scheduled in South Korea this year?
(I don't follow the Olympics, couldn't care less, really)

I'll speculate that any action Mr. Trump wants to take will have to wait until those games have concluded -- perhaps involving a last-ditch effort to get the Chinese "on board".

Having said that, if we were to take some kind of limited action against the Norks -- and pull it off -- this would guarantee a second term for Mr. Trump, and notch America's position in the world upwards a few steps. And push China down a bit.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: anubias on February 03, 2018, 01:59:57 am
That’s ridiculous.  The one has nothing to do with the other.  Just because someone is capable of tending off attacks doesn’t make him any more or less a psychopath.

He wasn’t accused of being a psychopath.  He was accused of having the emotional stability of a teenager.
Title: Re: The Pentagon reportedly fears if it gives Trump military options for North Korea, he'll use them
Post by: anubias on February 03, 2018, 02:02:06 am
I said more or less. That you simply assumed I was stating a fact says a lot about you and your prejudices.

You accuse him of being “More or less of a psychopath” and now you claim Wingnut is prejudiced for calling you out on it?  Like I said, mind-boggling.

 **nononono*