The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: truth_seeker on April 29, 2018, 04:35:33 am
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Mchelle Wolf at White House Corresp. Dinner
For those of you that want to hear Trump be bashed this (NOPE) might titilate you
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who's michelle wolf?
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who's michelle wolf?
There's something called "Google" @WarmPotato Sometimes it's even helpful:
https://www.google.com/search?ei=QqXlWtLtH5H65gL22ZqgCg&q=michelle+wolf&oq=michelle&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i131i67k1j0i67k1j0i131k1l2j0i67k1j0j0i131i67k1j0j0i131k1j0i67k1.44900.46228.0.47815.8.8.0.0.0.0.130.932.0j8.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.8.924...0i10i67k1j0i10k1.0.4k2TICLRtcI (https://www.google.com/search?ei=QqXlWtLtH5H65gL22ZqgCg&q=michelle+wolf&oq=michelle&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i131i67k1j0i67k1j0i131k1l2j0i67k1j0j0i131i67k1j0j0i131k1j0i67k1.44900.46228.0.47815.8.8.0.0.0.0.130.932.0j8.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.8.924...0i10i67k1j0i10k1.0.4k2TICLRtcI)
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who's michelle wolf?
She's a nice girl that your mom would be proud to see you with.
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This is about all we need to know about last night's dinner:
(https://www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/GettyImages-952528568.jpg)
Scion Kelly (L) and Parkland shooting survivor and activist David Hogg attend the 2018 White House Correspondents’ Dinner at Washington Hilton on April 28, 2018 in Washington, DC.
Story at BizPac Review (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/04/29/comedian-crosses-way-over-line-at-wh-press-dinner-sarah-sanders-endures-mean-sexist-attack-629238): Comedian crosses way over line at WH press dinner; Sarah Sanders endures mean, sexist attack.
Too bad that guy on the left had to wear his little brother's suit.
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Some reaction on Twitter:
Ben Shapiro Verified account @benshapiro
7h7 hours ago
There is tremendous irony to the fact that Michelle Wolf, in making the media look nasty and Democrats spitefully awful, will be hailed as a hero by precisely those groups.
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The Columbia Bugle 🇺🇸 @ColumbiaBugle
8h8 hours ago
Michelle Wolf will be forgotten by tomorrow while Sarah Huckabee Sanders will continue to change the World. #WHCD
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GregGutfeld Verified account @greggutfeld
7h7 hours ago
michelle wolf reminds us that denigrators of women, are often women who use politics as an excuse for physical ridicule. the media calls that a "roast." if it were a conservative doing so, it would be called misogyny.
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Maggie Haberman Verified account @maggieNYT
That @PressSec sat and absorbed intense criticism of her physical appearance, her job performance, and so forth, instead of walking out, on national television, was impressive.
11:14 PM - 28 Apr 2018
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Mollie Verified account @MZHemingway
12h12 hours ago
I can't remember which friend of mine said something to this effect, but it made me laugh. "If Trump does nothing other than destroy the WHCD, his presidency will be a huge success."
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Peter Baker Verified account @peterbakernyt
Unfortunately, I don't think we advanced the cause of journalism tonight.
11:47 PM - 28 Apr 2018
Even a couple of NYT "journalists" could see what a disgrace the event was.
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They managed to make the White House Press Secretary, one of the most despised positions in America, a sympathetic figure. Congratulations.
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On the bright side Kathy Griffin graced twitter and offered her undying support for Wolf's filthy and mean spirited rant...
I know. You guys are as shocked as me, right!
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The joke about congress near the beginning was actually clever. It showed she had the capability of being funny and topical, but she chose something else, instead.
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She managed to give Trump a gift with her hateful 20 minute screed. So she will have that to fall back upon when she needs to feed herself.
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Does anyone else think of Carrot Top in drag when they see Michelle Wolf?
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Does anyone else think of Carrot Top in drag when they see Michelle Wolf?
Carrot Top has a better tan.
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Never heard of her...
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I think about the so called 'locker room talk' from candidate Trump that was just fine with all his supporters.
Now they are shocked shocked when they hear those very same words directed AT him?
Anyone care to explain?
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I think about the so called 'locker room talk' from candidate Trump that was just fine with all his supporters.
Now they are shocked shocked when they hear those very same words directed AT him?
Anyone care to explain?
I see you have been over at the DU. That is a running theme over there to explain wolfs act. Blame Trump.
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Sarah Sanders, Kellyanne Conway don't flinch as WHCD comedian cracks crude, vulgar jokes about them
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/sarah-sanders-kellyanne-conway-dont-flinch-as-whcd-comedian-cracks-crude-vulgar-jokes-about-them (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/sarah-sanders-kellyanne-conway-dont-flinch-as-whcd-comedian-cracks-crude-vulgar-jokes-about-them)
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Trump fumes over White House Correspondents' dinner comedian
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-fumes-over-white-house-correspondents-dinner-comedian (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-fumes-over-white-house-correspondents-dinner-comedian)
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Damn! That was horrible. I'm not talking about Sarah or Trump or anyone else. It was brutally unfunny. I couldn't finish it. I don't believe the 'laughs' on the video. I don't believe anyone found that crap 'funny'.
They had to have a laugh track machine connected to the speakers. They had to.
This Wolf woman, whoever she is, I never heard of her, is an anomaly. She has dark skin but looks White and has a Northeast Jewish accent. Where did all that come from? I'll bet her history is interesting, to say the least.
Trump was certainly right not to go. Next year there will be no one there from the White House at all. Now, it has nothing to do with 'correspondents'. It is just a Bash Trump meeting of Leftwing wackos. There is no point in attending it.
Let those guys all circle jerk each other. Make each other feel good and important. But leave me out of it.
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Michelle Wolf pushes back on criticism of Sarah Sanders jokes
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/385381-michelle-wolf-pushes-back-on-criticism-of-sarah-sanders-jokes (http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/385381-michelle-wolf-pushes-back-on-criticism-of-sarah-sanders-jokes)
The former “Daily Show†writer took direct aim at the Trump administration, including Sanders, throughout her routine at the dinner Saturday evening.
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Trump fumes over White House Correspondents' dinner comedian
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-fumes-over-white-house-correspondents-dinner-comedian (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-fumes-over-white-house-correspondents-dinner-comedian)
Fumes? They really are working that thesaurus.
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Fumes? They really are working that thesaurus.
They must have worn out "Furious"
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What the hell is 'fumes'? Who uses that word?
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They must have worn out "Furious"
But not 'enraged.' They could have stuck with that for a while.
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WHCD Comedian Michelle Wolf Trashes Sarah Sanders Appearance; Mocks Kellyanne and Ivanka
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/28/whcd-comedian-michelle-wolf-trashes-sarah-sanders-appearance-mocks-kellyanne-and-ivanka/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/28/whcd-comedian-michelle-wolf-trashes-sarah-sanders-appearance-mocks-kellyanne-and-ivanka/)
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Some WH staffers got up and left..If I was Sara I would have too..I wouldn't have been able to sit and listen to this shit.....so far only the conservative news is outraged...that I can find.
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Some WH staffers got up and left..If I was Sara I would have too..I wouldn't have been able to sit and listen to this shit.....so far only the conservative news is outraged...that I can find.
I don't understand why they went. They had to know they would just make themselves targets. A big "kick me" note posted on their backs.
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When the boss 'suggests' you attend the dinner, then you attend. Then you report back on who laughed at the jokes.
Hilarious all the snowflakes here. Those who thought some attendees should have gotten up and left seem to have stayed tuned in to the very end. Changing the channel is allowed........no?
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I think about the so called 'locker room talk' from candidate Trump that was just fine with all his supporters.
Now they are shocked shocked when they hear those very same words directed AT him?
Anyone care to explain?
"Locker Room" talk is in private, not for public consumption.
Heaven forbid if some of the things I've said privately ever come out in public.
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I don't understand why they went. They had to know they would just make themselves targets. A big "kick me" note posted on their backs.
Good people trust in civility. The Left trusts and honors nothing. They have no self respect. They no respect for anything at all. It is hard for good people to grasp how these animals live.
I'm sure they will not be there next year. And that is good. Let all these rabid idiots self-congratulate each other alone. Sarah and Kellyanne only validated the whole thing by being there. I do not think they will make that mistake again.
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I guess I am a snowflake then. I just don't think anyoneshould be degraded like that in a very public setting..but that's just me.
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"Locker Room" talk is in private, not for public consumption.
Heaven forbid if some of the things I've said privately ever come out in public.
@dfwgator
Imagine you were on a bus. Engaging in some locker room talk and unbeknown to you the other guy was recording it.
Then released it for national news.
Now that would suck
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I don't understand why they went. They had to know they would just make themselves targets. A big "kick me" note posted on their backs.
They had a point to prove, and they did. They won't be back next year...let the Press bunch yuck it up all by themselves next year. This used to be an event where the "Opponents" could get together and show what good sports they are, but the Press has reduced it to a mean-spirited two-hour hate.
Now everybody knows what we have known about the Press for a long time.
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When the boss 'suggests' you attend the dinner, then you attend. Then you report back on who laughed at the jokes.
Hilarious all the snowflakes here. Those who thought some attendees should have gotten up and left seem to have stayed tuned in to the very end. Changing the channel is allowed........no?
@Rivergirl
There are jokes and then there is meanspirited trash. This was the later.
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@dfwgator
Imagine you were on a bus. Engaging in some locker room talk and unbeknown to you the other guy was recording it.
Then released it for national news.
Now that would suck
Indeed.
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I guess I am a snowflake then. I just don't think anyoneshould be degraded like that in a very public setting..but that's just me.
Did you sleep through the entire primary season in 2016? The culture has been degraded so as to be unrecognizable from just a few years ago. The name calling, the lies, insults that continue from the white house are at the root of this debacle. Complain all you want but be honest about the genesis of her taunting of the president. As for Sarah, how she lives with herself is beyond me. Two small children that will grow up knowing their mother defended the indefensible.
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Never heard of her...
Just another D level comic who just wrapped 15 minutes of Fame with a vulgur spiteful rant that because Donald Trump was her target...will make her the darling of the Liberal media/talk circuit.
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Michelle Wolf’s ‘Unnecessarily Cruel’ White House Correspondents Dinner Act Ripped – By Media
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/michelle-wolf-unnecessarily-cruel-white-house-correspondents-dinner-132503744.html (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/michelle-wolf-unnecessarily-cruel-white-house-correspondents-dinner-132503744.html)
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Does anyone else think of Carrot Top in drag when they see Michelle Wolf?
Carrot Top looks like Carrot Top in drag.
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Carrot Top looks like Carrot Top in drag.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRan7sZ2laI_qjPvvnnOq_xLlqRDCRT8XpUudGHcj9TsFNf09EA)
:thumbsup:
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Simply Red is also getting hate tweets.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/73/b0/66/73b066c326fc8d2a51f6fbc284c31314--music-bands-music-music.jpg)
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The could have just had Whoopi hosting.
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Michelle Wolf’s ‘Unnecessarily Cruel’ White House Correspondents Dinner Act Ripped – By Media
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/michelle-wolf-unnecessarily-cruel-white-house-correspondents-dinner-132503744.html (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/michelle-wolf-unnecessarily-cruel-white-house-correspondents-dinner-132503744.html)
Wow even the NYT & Yahoo thinks this slug's routine went over the top.
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Wow even the NYT & Yahoo thinks this slug's routine went over the top.
She committed the mortal sin of proving why she writes them and doesn't deliver them. She has no sense of "timing."
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"Locker Room" talk is in private, not for public consumption.
Heaven forbid if some of the things I've said privately ever come out in public.
The "locker room talk" that Trump supporters defended was made in a public interview, and was definitely made for public consumption.
No Trump supporter who defended Trump's bragging about molesting women should care one whit about what is said about him.
The faux outrage about trash talking a trash talker is hypocritical from those who have stalwartly defended Trump's trash talk.
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I guess I am a snowflake then. I just don't think anyoneshould be degraded like that in a very public setting..but that's just me.
Me too.
Which is a great part of why I cannot tolerate Trump's degrading others on a regular basis.
I hate this no matter who it comes from.
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@dfwgator
Imagine you were on a bus. Engaging in some locker room talk and unbeknown to you the other guy was recording it.
Then released it for national news.
Now that would suck
Except that Trump knew his "locker room" degradation of women was being recorded.
He's not like you. He degrades people publicly on a regular basis.
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Me too.
Which is a great part of why I cannot tolerate Trump's degrading others on a regular basis.
I hate this no matter who it comes from.
Me too!
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Wow that was disgusting and degrading. Who does she think she is; Trump's Twitter feed?
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Me too!
Frankly, I don't understand why anyone does it.
No matter who is doing the degrading, it makes them look like badly behaved children.
Why would anyone want to look like an idiot? I don't get it. :shrug:
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Frankly, I don't understand why anyone does it.
No matter who is doing the degrading, it makes them look like badly behaved children.
Why would anyone want to look like an idiot? I don't get it. :shrug:
I don't understand how people get any satisfaction in pubically embarrassing another person...
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Me too.
Which is a great part of why I cannot tolerate Trump's degrading others on a regular basis.
I hate this no matter who it comes from.
That's why I can't take any of this faux outrage today seriously. This has been going on for a while. Both sides are guilty of it and both sides feign outrage when it is done against them. We've been listening for over two years to vile things Trump has said and being told, "he just wasn't politically correct, he says what others are thinking...." Everything that was said last night could have come from Trump's Twitter feed about Rosie or Megyn Kelly. . . All those things could have come from a free republic thread about Michelle Obama or come from a DU thread before that about Laura Bush. This is what society has become and we only need a mirror to see the blame.
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Did you sleep through the entire primary season in 2016? The culture has been degraded so as to be unrecognizable from just a few years ago. The name calling, the lies, insults that continue from the white house are at the root of this debacle. Complain all you want but be honest about the genesis of her taunting of the president. As for Sarah, how she lives with herself is beyond me. Two small children that will grow up knowing their mother defended the indefensible.
She does it for the paycheck. She got the job as a nepotism favor after her dad kissed up to Trump early and often. Which probably means she doesn't have a lot of good job prospects otherwise. You do what you have to do.
Besides, the job is White House Press Secretary, the most undignified job in Washington. Can you think of one such person in that position that has had one shred of respect? MAYBE Tony Snow. It is a darn near impossible job if you want to keep your self-respect.
If I ever got offered that gig (and at the rate the administration is going through staffers I just might) I'm using a pseudonym. (Preferably something ridiculous so that the reporters have to refer to me as, for example, "Turd Ferguson" —alas, that one is taken).
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That's why I can't take any of this faux outrage today seriously. This has been going on for a while. Both sides are guilty of it and both sides feign outrage when it is done against them. We've been listening for over two years to vile things Trump has said and being told, "he just wasn't politically correct, he says what others are thinking...." Everything that was said last night could have come from Trump's Twitter feed about Rosie or Megyn Kelly. . . All those things could have come from a free republic thread about Michelle Obama or come from a DU thread before that about Laura Bush. This is what society has become and we only need a mirror to see the blame.
Well it still gets me upset when I hear it no matter who is doing it...
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I might add one thing that bothered me most of all is that very few laughed..most sat on their hands but NOT ONE stood up and told this women to STFU....not even Sara's husband...
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That's why I can't take any of this faux outrage today seriously. This has been going on for a while. Both sides are guilty of it and both sides feign outrage when it is done against them. We've been listening for over two years to vile things Trump has said and being told, "he just wasn't politically correct, he says what others are thinking...." Everything that was said last night could have come from Trump's Twitter feed about Rosie or Megyn Kelly. . . All those things could have come from a free republic thread about Michelle Obama or come from a DU thread before that about Laura Bush. This is what society has become and we only need a mirror to see the blame.
Exactly.
Both sides are now guilty of the offenses that used to come only from the left.
Thank you very much, Donald Trump. Now we're in the gutter too. **nononono*
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Exactly.
Both sides are now guilty of the offenses that used to come only from the left.
Thank you very much, Donald Trump. Now we're in the gutter too. **nononono*
Oh please. The damn left has always been low born filthy mouthed two bit gutter sluts. It didn't take Trump to bring that out into the main stream.
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That's why I can't take any of this faux outrage today seriously. This has been going on for a while. Both sides are guilty of it and both sides feign outrage when it is done against them. We've been listening for over two years to vile things Trump has said and being told, "he just wasn't politically correct, he says what others are thinking...." Everything that was said last night could have come from Trump's Twitter feed about Rosie or Megyn Kelly. . . All those things could have come from a free republic thread about Michelle Obama or come from a DU thread before that about Laura Bush. This is what society has become and we only need a mirror to see the blame.
Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of the 'fainters'. Seems all sense of honor and decency have escaped from public discourse.
I just don't see how we are going to put the genie back in the bottle. Perhaps there is hope.
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That's why I can't take any of this faux outrage today seriously. This has been going on for a while. Both sides are guilty of it and both sides feign outrage when it is done against them. We've been listening for over two years to vile things Trump has said and being told, "he just wasn't politically correct, he says what others are thinking...." Everything that was said last night could have come from Trump's Twitter feed about Rosie or Megyn Kelly. . . All those things could have come from a free republic thread about Michelle Obama or come from a DU thread before that about Laura Bush. This is what society has become and we only need a mirror to see the blame.
At this point it is turning into a game of ridiculous one-upmanship. Michelle Wolf has been doing this sort of thing for years. She writes for The Daily Show, which really kicked off this kind of "discourse." Perhaps that's part of Trump's appeal: after years of getting cheapshotted, a good chunk of the population rallied around the guy who shot cheapshots back, and they haven't let go.
Make no mistake about it: this didn't start with Trump, and it won't end with Trump, either.
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Sometimes you have to get into the gutter.
Lord knows I don't always want the President to be like Trump, but right now at this particular moment in our history, I think someone like Trump is precisely what we need.
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Sometimes you have to get into the gutter.
Lord knows I don't always want the President to be like Trump, but right now at this particular moment in our history, I think someone like Trump is precisely what we need.
So don't complain when the rest of society digs their way deep into that butter with him.
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So don't complain when the rest of society digs their way deep into that butter with him.
I'm not complaining, in fact, I'm thrilled the Left is being exposed for what they truly are.
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At this point it is turning into a game of ridiculous one-upmanship. Michelle Wolf has been doing this sort of thing for years. She writes for The Daily Show, which really kicked off this kind of "discourse." Perhaps that's part of Trump's appeal: after years of getting cheapshotted, a good chunk of the population rallied around the guy who shot cheapshots back, and they haven't let go.
Make no mistake about it: this didn't start with Trump, and it won't end with Trump, either.
I think the fuse for the vileness we see today was the 2000 election. All that pent up anger came at just the time the internet really boomed and people started acting differently thinking they were anonymous. Before that, all of this was 'shock jock' territory. Now, we've accepted it as normal and the jokes the shock jocks told in the 90s seem mild by comparison.
Now, your average grandma says wise things about political opponents than Andrew Dice Clay said in 1992.
Trump, Wolf, the lot of them are just a symptom of reflection of society, not the cause.
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I'm not complaining, in fact, I'm thrilled the Left is being exposed for what they truly are.
The left AND right are being exposed for what they are. Both sides like to pretend they have the high ground, but both the left wing and right wing are from the same bird.
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Politics has always been nasty business. The Internet and social media just expose it to the masses.
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who's michelle wolf?
@WarmPotato I didn't know until yesterday myself but she's a wanna be comedienne who apparently decided the best way to succeed was to trash Trump and his minions.
I understand she was universally panned and I really resented her un-called for remarks about Sarah Sanders.
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I might add one thing that bothered me most of all is that very few laughed..most sat on their hands but NOT ONE stood up and told this women to STFU....not even Sara's husband...
It's a problem for Christians. We don't tend to stand up and express our outrage at the vile, low class individuals, who demean us and others.
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Ex-GOP lawmaker: If WHCA apologizes to Sanders, Trump also has to apologize for his 'ugly' attacks
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/385415-ex-gop-lawmaker-if-whca-apologizes-to-sanders-trump-also-has-to (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/385415-ex-gop-lawmaker-if-whca-apologizes-to-sanders-trump-also-has-to)
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I guess I am a snowflake then. I just don't think anyoneshould be degraded like that in a very public setting..but that's just me.
It certainly is not 'just you.' I think most of the country either; had no idea what a White House Correspondents dinner is; ignored it altogether; or maybe read comments about it the next day.
I had no intention of watching it, but my take is that they did themselves more harm than good with this vicious, cruel and spiteful behavior. Not to mention childish.
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Exactly.
Both sides are now guilty of the offenses that used to come only from the left.
Thank you very much, Donald Trump. Now we're in the gutter too. **nononono*
No, both sides are not equally guilty. Can you even imagine Hillary or Obama being treated this way?
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Exactly.
Both sides are now guilty of the offenses that used to come only from the left.
Thank you very much, Donald Trump. Now we're in the gutter too. **nononono*
I didn't vote for Pres. Trump because I didn't like the bullying and outrageous lies he told during the primaries. Today I wish I had voted for him. For all the brash, rough, mean attacks he makes he at least has consistently tried to fulfill his campaign promises. We can't say the same for the "genteel" Pubs.
My outrage with the WHCD is not due to the attacks on Pres. Trump, other than the claim he's a racist and supports nazi's. I'm outraged by the attacks on Conway and Sanders. I am especially outraged by the comment by the "comedian" about Sanders being a white Uncle Tom.
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Oh please. The damn left has always been low born filthy mouthed two bit gutter sluts. It didn't take Trump to bring that out into the main stream.
I swear some folks will take any issue and use it as a club to beat ‘trump supporters’ with.
Tedious as hell.
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@dfwgator
Imagine you were on a bus. Engaging in some locker room talk and unbeknown to you the other guy was recording it.
Then released it for national news.
Now that would suck
But everyone on the bus would have their phones out and would be staring at them. Unless you talked loud enough to wake them from their stupor, in which case you would be recorded and posted on the Net.
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No, both sides are not equally guilty. Can you even imagine Hillary or Obama being treated this way?
Go to your average Free Republic thread on Michelle Obama as an example and get back to me.
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Politics has always been nasty business. The Internet and social media just expose it to the masses.
Indeed. Abraham Lincoln's critics called him a baboon and gorilla - and worse - and they certainly didn't hold back on criticizing Mrs. Lincoln, as well. The difference, of course, is how quickly and broadly the insults can be disseminated in this computer age.
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Go to your average Free Republic thread on Michelle Obama as an example and get back to me.
You are talking about one website, containing opinions of private citizens versus the entire Mass Media Complex.
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Go to your average Free Republic thread on Michelle Obama as an example and get back to me.
And it sure as Hell didn't start with Trump.....
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The "locker room talk" that Trump supporters defended was made in a public interview, and was definitely made for public consumption.
No Trump supporter who defended Trump's bragging about molesting women should care one whit about what is said about him.
The faux outrage about trash talking a trash talker is hypocritical from those who have stalwartly defended Trump's trash talk.
@musiclady Maybe you should have lunch with @Rivergirl
No one that I know of on THIS forum has defended Trump about truth or rumors of his past behavior about sex or women.
You know that.
There are Trump defenders here who defend him, when we can, for trying to govern wisely. You are insulting us all with a post like that.
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Oh please. The damn left has always been low born filthy mouthed two bit gutter sluts. It didn't take Trump to bring that out into the main stream.
@Wingnut Thanks, another one way out of the ball park.
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@musiclady Maybe you should have lunch with @Rivergirl
No one that I know of on THIS forum has defended Trump about truth or rumors of his past behavior about sex or women.
You know that.
There are Trump defenders here who defend him, when we can, for trying to govern wisely. You are insulting us all with a post like that.
:thumbsup:
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At this point it is turning into a game of ridiculous one-upmanship. Michelle Wolf has been doing this sort of thing for years. She writes for The Daily Show, which really kicked off this kind of "discourse." Perhaps that's part of Trump's appeal: after years of getting cheapshotted, a good chunk of the population rallied around the guy who shot cheapshots back, and they haven't let go.
Make no mistake about it: this didn't start with Trump, and it won't end with Trump, either.
@jmyrlefuller You're right. It amazes me how several on this thread have managed to turn the ugly and outrageous behavior of Wolf into a diatribe against a man who wasn't even there.
But, hey, it's what they do.
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@jmyrlefuller You're right. It amazes me how several on this thread have managed to turn the ugly and outrageous behavior of Wolf into a diatribe against a man who wasn't even there.
But, hey, it's what they do.
Another goopo @Emjay ... 888high58888
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Go to your average Free Republic thread on Michelle Obama as an example and get back to me.
Which is ironic considering why I got the ban hammer the last time.
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I didn't vote for Pres. Trump because I didn't like the bullying and outrageous lies he told during the primaries. Today I wish I had voted for him. For all the brash, rough, mean attacks he makes he at least has consistently tried to fulfill his campaign promises. We can't say the same for the "genteel" Pubs.
My outrage with the WHCD is not due to the attacks on Pres. Trump, other than the claim he's a racist and supports nazi's. I'm outraged by the attacks on Conway and Sanders. I am especially outraged by the comment by the "comedian" about Sanders being a white Uncle Tom.
@bilo Me, too. I like Sarah Sanders and she does a good job at a thankless task. She responded with total class in a tweet this morning.
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Which is ironic considering why I got the ban hammer the last time.
The mods generally do zot any "Wookie" remarks about Michelle.
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Which is ironic considering why I got the ban hammer the last time.
@Cyber Liberty I got ousted also but I must admit I wander over there occasionally. I haven't noticed much interest in Michelle Obama lately, but I gotta say, nothing is too bad for her and also she has NEVER been dissed in a public forum.
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The mods generally do zot any "Wookie" remarks about Michelle.
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The mods generally do zot any "Wookie" remarks about Michelle.
True, which only adds to the irony. Who do they think they're kidding?
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So it was the Daily Show that caused Trump to attack Rosie O'Donnell. Who knew.
There is no excuse. There is no justification. There is a lot of dissembling about whose fault we are such a poor example.
Other than Lindsey Graham and Muckabee, I would have accepted any of the other republicans as president. I will never in a million years understand the Evangelical community constantly defending the behavior of this president.
We can and must do better in the future.
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So it was the Daily Show that caused Trump to attack Rosie O'Donnell. Who knew.
There is no excuse. There is no justification. There is a lot of dissembling about whose fault we are such a poor example.
Other than Lindsey Graham and Muckabee, I would have accepted any of the other republicans as president. I will never in a million years understand the Evangelical community constantly defending the behavior of this president.
We can and must do better in the future.
But why are you complaining about the president's behavior on this thread?
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So it was the Daily Show that caused Trump to attack Rosie O'Donnell. Who knew.
There is no excuse. There is no justification. There is a lot of dissembling about whose fault we are such a poor example.
Other than Lindsey Graham and Muckabee, I would have accepted any of the other republicans as president. I will never in a million years understand the Evangelical community constantly defending the behavior of this president.
We can and must do better in the future.
I can think of a lot of justification for attacking Rosie O'Donnell. Just sayin...
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This broad needs a bag for her head, and some soap for her mouth. Did Roseanne Barr father a love child with Debbie Wasserman Shultz? Holy moly...
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But why are you complaining about the president's behavior on this thread?
Her trump hate flows all over the the ads here at the. It is her deal.
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@musiclady Maybe you should have lunch with @Rivergirl
No one that I know of on THIS forum has defended Trump about truth or rumors of his past behavior about sex or women.
You know that.
There are Trump defenders here who defend him, when we can, for trying to govern wisely. You are insulting us all with a post like that.
Not so.
There was an entire thread where the poster (and a few others) defended Trump's "locker room talk" as being nothing to be concerned about. Just words that every guy uses.
And there have been a host of other Trump defenders who have used "just locker room talk" as a way to say that Trump's bragging about molesting women was nothing to worry about.
The hypocrisy is, after all the garbage Trump has said about women and men, the same people would be offended that others are trash talking him.
The consistency is with people who think it's either wrong either way (me and mystery) or no big deal either way.
Hope that clears things up for you, @Emjay
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Some WH staffers got up and left..If I was Sara I would have too..I wouldn't have been able to sit and listen to this shit.....so far only the conservative news is outraged...that I can find.
@mystery-ak
They're being praised for sitting and taking it, but I'm not so sure that was the right thing to do. Personally I would have gone up there and wrenched the mic from that ferret-looking b***h, but then that's why I wouldn't last in Washington...
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Oh please. The damn left has always been low born filthy mouthed two bit gutter sluts. It didn't take Trump to bring that out into the main stream.
I never said it did.
I said that, because of Trump, gutter sluts are now acceptable to some conservatives.
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Me too.
Which is a great part of why I cannot tolerate Trump's degrading others on a regular basis.
I hate this no matter who it comes from.
@musiclady
Exactly.
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This broad needs a bag for her head, and some soap for her mouth. Did Roseanne Barr father a love child with Debbie Wasserman Shultz? Holy moly...
@cato potatoe
Which broad? The speaker or the ones here turning a thread about a NT using foul language into a thread about how Trumps bad behavior makes the speakers language ok.
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@cato potatoe
Which broad? The speaker or the ones here turning a thread about a NT using foul language into a thread about how Trumps bad behavior makes the speakers language ok.
Decisions decisions. ☺
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Ex-GOP lawmaker: If WHCA apologizes to Sanders, Trump also has to apologize for his 'ugly' attacks
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/385415-ex-gop-lawmaker-if-whca-apologizes-to-sanders-trump-also-has-to (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/385415-ex-gop-lawmaker-if-whca-apologizes-to-sanders-trump-also-has-to)
Disagree totally.
The key word there is "Ex-GOP lawmaker"
The only GD reason we're in THIS mess, is because Pres. George W. Bush agreed with you and @musiclady and never responded to the Left/media 24/7 hate.
It emboldened them.
Donald Trump is POTUS today because he wasn't afraid to attack.
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@mystery-ak
They're being praised for sitting and taking it, but I'm not so sure that was the right thing to do. Personally I would have gone up there and wrenched the mic from that ferret-looking b***h, but then that's why I wouldn't last in Washington...
Yeah, I'd have done the same thing as well, but you're right, this is a different crowd. "Sitting and taking it" is what people like that have to do in order to allow the speaker to look as foolish as possible, because getting up and leaving would have become the story, eclipsing the really foul behavior. This game is played trough the jaded lens of the biased press.
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No, both sides are not equally guilty. Can you even imagine Hillary or Obama being treated this way?
Exactly, @Emjay !
Dubya was cowed by his mother and father. Donald Trump doesn't have that problem.
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Yeah, I'd have done the same thing as well, but you're right, this is a different crowd. "Sitting and taking it" is what people like that have to do in order to allow the speaker to look as foolish as possible, because getting up and leaving would have become the story, eclipsing the really foul behavior. This game is played trough the jaded lens of the biased press.
@Cyber Liberty
That's a good point. The general opinion I'm seeing on Twitter, even from some liberals, is that the distrust in the media and anger toward the left was solidified even more last night. They still don't get it.
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Go to your average Free Republic thread on Michelle Obama as an example and get back to me.
That reasoning is pathetic, @AbaraXas *****rollingeyes*****
You're going to compare a Conservative political forum with a televised WHC Dinner?
Why don't YOU get back to me when you can cite Michelle Obama being the target of a raunchy haze.....by the mainstream media.
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You are talking about one website, containing opinions of private citizens versus the entire Mass Media Complex.
:beer:
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:beer:
You know what? I'm going to raise a glass to @dfwgator for that too. :beer:
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You know what? I'm going to raise a glass to @dfwgator for that too. :beer:
Prodigious!
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Prodigious!
Running the risk of "Me too-ism" here....
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Not so.
There was an entire thread where the poster (and a few others) defended Trump's "locker room talk" as being nothing to be concerned about. Just words that every guy uses.
And there have been a host of other Trump defenders who have used "just locker room talk" as a way to say that Trump's bragging about molesting women was nothing to worry about.
The hypocrisy is, after all the garbage Trump has said about women and men, the same people would be offended that others are trash talking him.
The consistency is with people who think it's either wrong either way (me and mystery) or no big deal either way.
Hope that clears things up for you, @Emjay
@musiclady Hey, I would be remiss if I didn't appreciate your attempts to clear things up with me.
But the point is, people defending Trump's so-called locker room talk are few and far between. I don't know of anyone here who does. Maybe you do.
I'm an old-fashioned woman who doesn't like smut in any form or by anybody.
However, a lot of people are inured to all that stuff.
At any rate, I don't judge Trump strictly by his past or his tweets and, as far as I know, he has not made public statements or even tweets, using profane language.
I'm trying to judge Trump by his Presidential actions a lot of which I like. That's all.
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Running the risk of "Me too-ism" here....
Aint Nobody got time for that! 😂
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@musiclady Hey, I would be remiss if I didn't appreciate your attempts to clear things up with me.
But the point is, people defending Trump's so-called locker room talk are few and far between. I don't know of anyone here who does. Maybe you do.
I'm an old-fashioned woman who doesn't like smut in any form or by anybody.
However, a lot of people are inured to all that stuff.
At any rate, I don't judge Trump strictly by his past or his tweets and, as far as I know, he has not made public statements or even tweets, using profane language.
I'm trying to judge Trump by his Presidential actions a lot of which I like. That's all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBLv6rmnYf4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBLv6rmnYf4#)
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So it was the Daily Show that caused Trump to attack Rosie O'Donnell. Who knew.
There is no excuse. There is no justification. There is a lot of dissembling about whose fault we are such a poor example.
Other than Lindsey Graham and Muckabee, I would have accepted any of the other republicans as president. I will never in a million years understand the Evangelical community constantly defending the behavior of this president.
We can and must do better in the future.
The President wasn't even there, and considering the point you so plainly missed was that Ms. Wolf's behavior is only related to Trump's in that it emboldened her to escalate it even further but would still be vulgar even if Trump were not President (note how many people she attacked last night)... I fail to see your point here. Trump has next to nothing to do with this.
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And this is nothing new for them
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2t-Hi-HDqg#)
Y'all can't blame that on Trump.
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@musiclady Hey, I would be remiss if I didn't appreciate your attempts to clear things up with me.
But the point is, people defending Trump's so-called locker room talk are few and far between. I don't know of anyone here who does. Maybe you do.
I'm an old-fashioned woman who doesn't like smut in any form or by anybody.
However, a lot of people are inured to all that stuff.
At any rate, I don't judge Trump strictly by his past or his tweets and, as far as I know, he has not made public statements or even tweets, using profane language.
I'm trying to judge Trump by his Presidential actions a lot of which I like. That's all.
I'm also 'old-fashioned' and don't like any form of profanity or obscenity, nor degradation of women.
That's what puts me on the receiving end of ridicule by a few of the boys here on TBR.
But that's OK. When you have standards as we do (I mean that seriously), we aren't driven from them by internet ridicule.
There are lots of us here on TBR, and that's why I like it here.
@Emjay
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I'm also 'old-fashioned' and don't like any form of profanity or obscenity, nor degradation of women.
That's what puts me on the receiving end of ridicule by a few of the boys here on TBR.
But that's OK. When you have standards as we do (I mean that seriously), we aren't driven from them by internet ridicule.
There are lots of us here on TBR, and that's why I like it here.
@Emjay
She doesn't like degradation of women but is fine degrading men.
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She doesn't like degradation of women but is fine degrading men.
Interesting.
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She doesn't like degradation of women but is fine degrading men.
Not you, @driftdiver. You have never ridiculed me for my faith or my moral standards.
And I appreciate that.
A couple of others have not been so kind. I have been on the receiving end of some not so nice "pokes."
But that's OK. I'm a big girl. I don't have either of them on Ignore because I can handle myself and their mockery just fine.
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Interesting.
Of course, you know I don't do that.
Not the innocent ones at least. If they degrade women, I call them on it. (Only occasionally).
That's it.
(And most of the time I ignore them, because I believe they have the freedom to express their 'values,' or lack thereof, whether they believe in my freedom to express mine, or not).
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Of course, you know I don't do that.
Not the innocent ones at least. If they degrade women, I call them on it. (Only occasionally).
That's it.
(And most of the time I ignore them, because I believe they have the freedom to express their 'values,' or lack thereof, whether they believe in my freedom to express mine, or not).
Actually, I kind of see his point that it's degrading to call a man a boy.
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Actually, I kind of see his point that it's degrading to call a man a boy.
In fairness.....her use of "boy" in the context she was using it, is perfectly appropriate.
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In fairness.....her use of "boy" in the context she was using it, is perfectly appropriate.
"Boys" used as a term of camaraderie is perfectly appropriate. Her use did not come across as a term of camaraderie.
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"Boys" used as a term of camaraderie is perfectly appropriate. Her use did not come across as a term of camaraderie.
Separating a man from a "boy" when speaking about how they talk about a woman's belief/moral system....as 'weird' as it may appear sometimes....is actually clever on her part.
....and I'm not a particular fan, as I defend it. :laugh:
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Bleh. Who didn't see this coming from this lame event. The whole pack of them are nutjobs.
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Bleh. Who didn't see this coming from this lame event. The whole pack of them are nutjobs.
Bravo for bringing the Topic back in focus! I agree with you, and it appears the President does too. I wouldn't sit through one of these abortions if I was him, either. What the Press dickheads call "humor" has taken an ugly turn since the last election.
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Bravo for bringing the Topic back in focus! I agree with you, and it appears the President does too. I wouldn't sit through one of these abortions if I was him, either. What the Press dickheads call "humor" has taken an ugly turn since the last election.
I'm shocked that there were generally sensible people in attendance to that losers prom. Matt Schlapp? Come on now. He should know better.
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Bleh. Who didn't see this coming from this lame event. The whole pack of them are nutjobs.
Everyone wants a front row seat to watch a train wreck.
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Separating a man from a "boy" when speaking about how they talk about a woman's belief/moral system....as 'weird' as it may appear sometimes....is actually clever on her part.
....and I'm not a particular fan, as I defend it. :laugh:
@DCPatriot
It has its uses. A post complaining about degradation of women isn't one of em.
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I'm shocked that there were generally sensible people in attendance to that losers prom. Matt Schlapp? Come on now. He should know better.
Maybe Mercedes dragged him along? That gal can drag me anywhere she wants....
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Everyone wants a front row seat to watch a train wreck.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUc3wd4It8g#)
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Actually, I kind of see his point that it's degrading to call a man a boy.
When the behavior warrants it, the word is appropriate.
I would never use the term to describe the vast majority of the males on this forum who handle themselves as men in all circumstances.
When a male belittles women on a regular basis, it is not the behavior of an adult.
Now, I fully agree with getting this thread back on topic, and apologize for anything I said that got it off course.
Leftists are creeps who have, for a very long time, said vile, ugly things in public.
No one should be surprised at vulgarity coming from a leftist.
(I still expect better from conservatives, so forgive me for that).
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Maybe Mercedes dragged him along? That gal can drag me anywhere she wants....
Pics?
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! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUc3wd4It8g#)
Stupid question. How do you embed a YouTube video
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Stupid question. How do you embed a YouTube video
Just cut and patse it but Take the "s" out of the http(s)
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Just cut and patse it but Take the "s" out of the http(s)
Thanks. Beware of an overabundance of YouTube from me
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Pics?
(https://enlightenedwomen.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Mercedes-Schlapp.jpg)
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Thanks. Beware of an overabundance of YouTube from me
...one more thing Grasshopper. You will need to copy the root youtube link. Just saying before you go out all puffed up posting porn and such! :)
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Maybe Mercedes dragged him along? That gal can drag me anywhere she wants....
A Mercedes doesn't "drag" one along, you plebeian. It whisks you along in comfort.
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(https://enlightenedwomen.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Mercedes-Schlapp.jpg)
Dragger not found.
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Dragger not found.
The picture didn't link? A shame. She's a cutie pie.
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The picture didn't link? A shame. She's a cutie pie.
LOL. She showed. Not my cup of tea. Just say'n
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LOL. She showed. Not my cup of tea. Just say'n
That's ok more for me
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That's ok more for me
Okay!@ You would hit a snake if you keep the fangs away! :cool:
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Okay!@ You would hit a snake if you keep the fangs away! :cool:
I'm too old for snakes. Besides all wommen have fangs
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I'm too old for snakes. Besides all wommen have fangs
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/ba/87/0eba87259be8ddf8c32ed2964fa344b6.jpg)
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Go to your average Free Republic thread on Michelle Obama as an example and get back to me.
I agree. I despise 0 and Mrs. 0 and everything they stand for, but, the degree of dehumanizing and demonization was vicious and vile.
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I'm shocked that there were generally sensible people in attendance to that losers prom. Matt Schlapp? Come on now. He should know better.
Totally agree.
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She doesn't like degradation of women but is fine degrading men.
Back to make one more comment about this false charge........
I have never ever seen a comment by @driftdiver that I would consider to be degrading to women, so I'm not sure why he was offended by my use of the word "boys" to describe those who are not adult enough to treat women with respect.
I stand by my comment that those adult males who feel the need to treat women in a degrading fashion are not behaving as men, but as boys.
I'm pretty sure everyone here (including driftdiver) actually knew that I was not coming even close to "degrading men" in my post, and that the accusation was not made because a defense of men was actually required but for some other reason known only to him. :shrug:
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Back to make one more comment about this false charge........
I have never ever seen a comment by @driftdiver that I would consider to be degrading to women, so I'm not sure why he was offended by my use of the word "boys" to describe those who are not adult enough to treat women with respect.
I stand by my comment that those adult males who feel the need to treat women in a degrading fashion are not behaving as men, but as boys.
I'm pretty sure everyone here (including driftdiver) actually knew that I was not coming even close to "degrading men" in my post, and that the accusation was not made because a defense of men was actually required but for some other reason known only to him. :shrug:
So you're degrading men by calling them boys because they treat women in a degrading fashion, but you're not degrading men. Got it.
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So you're degrading men by calling them boys because they treat women in a degrading fashion, but you're not degrading men. Got it.
Hilarious. Excellent point.
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So you're degrading men by calling them boys because they treat women in a degrading fashion, but you're not degrading men. Got it.
I'm sorry, @RoosGirl , but it shouldn't be that complicated, and you're bright enough to catch the difference between the two concepts.
So I'll restate my point and leave it alone. My calling men who belittle women on a regular basis "boys" is not "degrading men." It is specifically referring to a subset of men who haven't grown up yet. The vast majority of men don't do that, so I am not degrading men as a group. Just (accurately) describing the boys among them.
There are also plenty of women who haven't grown up yet, and you may freely call them "girls" without being guilty of "degrading women." Get it?
Once again, my comment referred to a small subset of the male gender who are so insecure that they feel the need to debase women in order to feel better about themselves.
If you still can't discern the clear distinction I am making, and have made repeatedly, please take it to private messaging, as the point was clear from the beginning, and I see no reason to continue to publicly defend something you obviously already understand.
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Maybe Mercedes dragged him along? That gal can drag me anywhere she wants....
I dunno, Frank. From your picture, you're not exactly a tiny guy.
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I agree. I despise 0 and Mrs. 0 and everything they stand for, but, the degree of dehumanizing and demonization was vicious and vile.
Agree completely. The repeated comments about her being a gorilla were ugly.
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I dunno, Frank. From your picture, you're not exactly a tiny guy.
I may sound like Frank sometimes....but I'm a lot nastier.
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I stand by my comment that those adult males who feel the need to treat women in a degrading fashion are not behaving as men, but as boys.
@musiclady
We have, alas, a few such creatures around here, too, especially when articles written by women with whom they disagree are posted. They are (thankfully) few, but they are there, attacking those ladies (before or even instead of attacking their messages) in terms that would have been considered obscene in the parlour of Larry Flynt himself.
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@musiclady
We have, alas, a few such creatures around here, too, especially when articles written by women with whom they disagree are posted. They are (thankfully) few, but they are there, attacking those ladies (before or even instead of attacking their messages) in terms that would have been considered obscene in the parlour of Larry Flynt himself.
You are absolutely correct, @EasyAce . Thanks for the reinforcement.
What I said was not even remotely controversial, as the evidence for such behavior is clear.
The fact that gentlemen abound on this forum is also clear, and as a woman, I very much appreciate it!
So thanks again!
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I'm sorry, @RoosGirl , but it shouldn't be that complicated, and you're bright enough to catch the difference between the two concepts.
So I'll restate my point and leave it alone. My calling men who belittle women on a regular basis "boys" is not "degrading men." It is specifically referring to a subset of men who haven't grown up yet. The vast majority of men don't do that, so I am not degrading men as a group. Just (accurately) describing the boys among them.
There are also plenty of women who haven't grown up yet, and you may freely call them "girls" without being guilty of "degrading women." Get it?
Once again, my comment referred to a small subset of the male gender who are so insecure that they feel the need to debase women in order to feel better about themselves.
If you still can't discern the clear distinction I am making, and have made repeatedly, please take it to private messaging, as the point was clear from the beginning, and I see no reason to continue to publicly defend something you obviously already understand.
Yeah, I got it already. You're degrading people (who happen to be men) for their degrading behavior towards women by calling them boys. You've decided they deserve to be treated the same way they're treating women, and maybe they do, but do we have to dance around the issue that the intent is to degrade them because of their behavior? I'm fine with it if that's what you want to do, but why pretend that's not what you're doing?
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I dunno, Frank. From your picture, you're not exactly a tiny guy.
That's not me. I'm just one of her "Sub-contractors".
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They managed to make the White House Press Secretary, one of the most despised positions in America, a sympathetic figure. Congratulations.
The backlash on that has been enormous. Sarah Sanders is actually VERY popular and she was amazed at how many people came to her defense via twitter and Facebook.
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That's not me. I'm just one of her "Sub-contractors".
I am not a "she." Mrs. Liberty, whom you have spoken with will attest to that.
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I am not a "she." Mrs. Liberty, whom you have spoken with will attest to that.
I know. I like hectoring that broad.
BTW, when did I call you a "She"? I believe you are mistaking me for another poster.
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I hope we have reached a turning point now.
The discourse in society has become more coarse and vulgar over the years, no doubt about it.
I've heard on the way to work this morning that media folks, both left and right wing, were upset about this WHCD monologue.
Maybe some good will come out of it.
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I hope we have reached a turning point now.
The discourse in society has become more coarse and vulgar over the years, no doubt about it.
I've heard on the way to work this morning that media folks, both left and right wing, were upset about this WHCD monologue.
Maybe some good will come out of it.
@GrouchoTex let's hope. America doesn't have much of an attention span these days before they are distracted by the next shiny object
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I hope we have reached a turning point now.
The discourse in society has become more coarse and vulgar over the years, no doubt about it.
I've heard on the way to work this morning that media folks, both left and right wing, were upset about this WHCD monologue.
Maybe some good will come out of it.
The thing is, it's nothing new. Just watch Wanda Sykes from the 2009 WHCD.
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I hope we have reached a turning point now.
The discourse in society has become more coarse and vulgar over the years, no doubt about it.
I've heard on the way to work this morning that media folks, both left and right wing, were upset about this WHCD monologue.
Maybe some good will come out of it.
Maybe something good will come of it. Our society has pretty much bottomed out. **nononono*
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The thing is, it's nothing new. Just watch Wanda Sykes from the 2009 WHCD.
@dfwgator
As I recall people were pretty disgusted with Wanda at the time. I think this new chick out did Wanda though.
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I know. I like hectoring that broad.
BTW, when did I call you a "She"? I believe you are mistaking me for another poster.
Naw, I just misread your post. It's hard to keep things straight sometimes. Everything happens to me... :crying:
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@dfwgator
As I recall people were pretty disgusted with Wanda at the time. I think this new chick out did Wanda though.
It was definitely a "hold muh beer" moment...
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Yeah, I got it already. You're degrading people (who happen to be men) for their degrading behavior towards women by calling them boys. You've decided they deserve to be treated the same way they're treating women, and maybe they do, but do we have to dance around the issue that the intent is to degrade them because of their behavior? I'm fine with it if that's what you want to do, but why pretend that's not what you're doing?
Please take this to PM since you're still confused and determined to make this what it is not.
No more responses to you here.
:seeya:
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Please take this to PM since you're still confused and determined to make this what it is not.
No more responses to you here.
:seeya:
@RoosGirl
IOW please do not point my hypocrisy in public. Its embarrassing and degrading. And since you're being degrading towards a woman I'm gonna have to start calling you boy
Which ironically (and to bring this ALLLLL the way back around and on topic) is exactly what this wolfie woman was doing, degrading another woman. Ok well she did it to several but my point stands.
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Enough! Take the boring little pissing contest elsewhere. It's not only boring, but completely off topic.
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The thing is, it's nothing new. Just watch Wanda Sykes from the 2009 WHCD.
No doubt about that.
I can think of things said about Nixon and moving forward, about all presidents, but I think it was more fringe and less mainstream.
I think it has become more mainstream as time has gone by.
I was reading something the other day, I think it was an article by Jonah Goldberg.
It mentioned that as Americans, we long to be outsiders, rebels, it's our history since the Declaration of Independence, the founding.
Rock and Roll, Tattoos, swearing, all the way to things like lately the acceptance of several sexual genders are ways to rebel, shock, not be a square, etc.
The funny thing is, now doing the right things is out of the norm, rebellious.
Straight, married, homeowners, with kids, working full time, is portrayed as being "way out there".
Everybody is vulgar, so it isn't cool anymore.
Hopefully, it will go back to the fringe.
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@RoosGirl
IOW please do not point my hypocrisy in public. Its embarrassing and degrading. And since you're being degrading towards a woman I'm gonna have to start calling you boy
Which ironically (and to bring this ALLLLL the way back around and on topic) is exactly what this wolfie woman was doing, degrading another woman. Ok well she did it to several but my point stands.
Degrading people is a certain type of humor; take Don Rickles as a recent example used around here somewhere. This woman just wasn't funny, and neither was Wanda.
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Degrading people is a certain type of humor; take Don Rickles as a recent example used around here somewhere.
Screw you. You know right were that came from Hockey Puck.....
(https://i.imgflip.com/1mt7r5.jpg)
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Enough! Take the boring little pissing contest elsewhere. It's not only boring, but completely off topic.
It's not off topic at all. The woman in the video was using degradation as a form of humor, which everyone has condemned her for, and that is how we got upon the topic of using degrading language. Are we only allowed to condemn leftists for using degrading language?
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Screw you. You know right were that came from Hockey Puck.....
Oh yes, it was you, wasn't it.
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Screw you. You know right were that came from Hockey Puck.....
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Enough! Take the boring little pissing contest elsewhere. It's not only boring, but completely off topic.
@MOD3 @mystery-ak
aye aye Sir!
I should know by now the only people its acceptable to criticize around here are Trump supporters.
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@MOD3 @mystery-ak
aye aye Sir!
I should know by now the only people its acceptable to criticize around here are Trump supporters.
That's not true at all. Why, @Frank Cannon just called me a hockey puck. Go ahead, you can call me a hockey puck if it makes you feel better.
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That's not true at all. Why, @Frank Cannon just called me a hockey puck. Go ahead, you can call me a hockey puck if it makes you feel better.
It would ruin the propaganda if he did that.
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That's not true at all. Why, @Frank Cannon just called me a hockey puck. Go ahead, you can call me a hockey puck if it makes you feel better.
@RoosGirl
And its a unicorn cake for you.
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@RoosGirl
And its a unicorn cake for you.
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/video-api-prod/assets/6dbd48f420124911877cd58de5595c96/BFV21161_UnicornCake_Square.jpg)
Crap on a cracker with sprinkles on top?
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Crap on a cracker with sprinkles on top?
Thats not crap, thats unicorn dust.
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That's not true at all. Why, @Frank Cannon just called me a hockey puck. Go ahead, you can call me a hockey puck if it makes you feel better.
@RoosGirl
Speaking of pucks, I have tickets to the Tampa Boston game tonight. I'm sure there will be nothing degrading or offensive there.
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Enough! Take the boring little pissing contest elsewhere. It's not only boring, but completely off topic.
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@RoosGirl
Speaking of pucks, I have tickets to the Tampa Boston game tonight. I'm sure there will be nothing degrading or offensive there.
Depends on who wins! Does Tampa still have that chick on their team?
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Depends on who wins! Does Tampa still have that chick on their team?
Crosby? No he plays for Pittsburgh.
Oh you mean the goalie, no she's off having babies and making sammiches now.
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Crosby? No he plays for Pittsburgh.
Oh you mean the goalie, no she's off having babies and making sammiches now.
Hah, yeah goalie, I think that was a good long time ago now. Probably past the age of having babies.
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@MOD3 @mystery-ak
aye aye Sir!
I should know by now the only people its acceptable to criticize around here are Trump supporters.
:beer:
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Crosby? No he plays for Pittsburgh.
Oh you mean the goalie, no she's off having babies and making sammiches now.
Man oh man.....he sure got upset last night on that reviewed NON-GOAL.
GO CAPS!!
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Hey now, take it easy on Sid the Kid.
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Hey now, take it easy on Sid the Kid.
LOL! 888high58888
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'I can't believe Trump is pro-life. I'm pretty positive Eric is an abortion.' Michelle Wolf deleted thousands of offensive tweets including a post in which she called Serena Williams a man, months before her controversial performance
* Michelle Wolf's Twitter showed the comedian had over 20,000 tweets in June 2017, but now only has 376, DailyMail.com can reveal
*The controversial comedian deleted thousands of tweets in which she poked fun at the Trump administration and made vulgar comments about celebrities
* 'I think trump is just mad at nature because it made eric,' Wolf wrote in one tweet
*In another she wrote: 'LeBron James was named Sports Illustrated Man of the Year. Sorry Serena, so close'
* The tweets appeared to have been deleted in recent months, as Wolf has gained more national prominence as a comedian
* Wolf, 32, has faced heavy criticism for her performance on Saturday after she made barbed jokes towards Sarah Huckabee Sanders and Kellyanne Conway
By Alana Goodman For Dailymail.com
Published: 13:16 EDT, 30 April 2018 | Updated: 14:58 EDT, 30 April 2018
The controversial White House Correspondents Dinner comedian Michelle Wolf has deleted thousands of offensive Twitter messages – after tweeting jokes about Serena Williams having a penis, calling Eric Trump an 'abortion,' and claiming she wanted to have sex with Bill Clinton.
Wolf, 32, has faced heavy criticism for her performance on Saturday after skewering White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders and aide Kellyanne Conway in an act that journalists and politicians widely denounced as mean spirited and vulgar.
On Monday, Wolf's Twitter account showed she has currently has 376 posts on the social media site. In June 2017, the comedian had over 20,000 tweets.
Although the White House Correspondents Association suggested it was caught off guard by Wolf's coarse jokes about the Trump administration, the comedian's Twitter feed shows years of animosity toward Donald Trump and praise for Hillary Clinton. ... Read more: Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5675113/Michelle-Wolf-called-Eric-Trump-abortion-one-thousands-deleted-tweets.html#ixzz5EBrrKkuk)
Yuck. Just gross.
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I think we are looking at the last supper....
Abuse it, loose it.
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Serena Williams looks like a man? No way!
(http://www.tennisworldusa.org/imgb/55881/serena-williams-can-restore-order-to-the-chaos-of-the-wta-tour.jpg)
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Never heard of her...
@mystery-ak
Neither had I. I just read this thread; had to do Bible study for a class I teach and haven't been on the forum long enough to post. Studying Bible and this Wolf woman's presentation at the same time, is an oxymoron - total opposites.
As a few do here, this Wolf woman used bathroom/body function words. A person consumed with using these words, including passing waste and reproduction part words, didn't pass potty training. She would lower her voice at the punch line, so sometimes I didn't get those words. She did that with the Sarah Sanders' "joke" so I didn't get the "joke" until I saw it in print. Poor joke, didn't make much sense. Felt sorry for Sanders after I saw it in print.
Essentially, she used the body part/function words so much, those were supposed to be the shocker to get laughs. One will remember those words, but what came before or after? Not much. Maybe comedians could have a contest with only saying body function words/parts, and people can vote for the most/worst words and that person is the winner.
To their credit, the White House Reporters Assn. has issued a denunciation of the Wolf woman's performance. I doubt there will be a bathroom comedian the next time.
I read five reporters were killed today somewhere in the middle east, think it is Afghanistan. Reporters are our ears/eyes on the world. I denounce Trump going after the press, calling them a public enemy. He would shut them all down so the people could only hear him - mass hypnotism. His ability to hypnotize people into believing whatever he wants them to, is working. Sheeple, Leemings. The next person/group he goes after, his followers will do the same.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/385565-michelle-wolf-on-correspondents-dinner-i-wouldnt-change-a (http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/385565-michelle-wolf-on-correspondents-dinner-i-wouldnt-change-a)
Michelle Wolf on correspondents' dinner: 'I wouldn't change a single word that I said'
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Did you sleep through the entire primary season in 2016? The culture has been degraded so as to be unrecognizable from just a few years ago. The name calling, the lies, insults that continue from the white house are at the root of this debacle. Complain all you want but be honest about the genesis of her taunting of the president. As for Sarah, how she lives with herself is beyond me.
@Rivergirl
What you say is true. The Trump method of holding rallies cause some people to act out. I have said this is a mass hypnosis technique and it works for him and still does now.
I have also watched Sarah Sanders and wondered how she keeps up with the double speak to get out of answering questions about what he says/does. I have also wondered how she lives with herself, knowing what she is doing. I kept thinking she will quit, but she doesn't. Wouldn't surprise me if she has or develops a stomach ulcer. I can imagine her esophagus/stomach crunching in on itself by what she has to say.
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@mountaineer
@mystery-ak
mountaineer says below Wolf has removed thousands of of Twitter messages. Note they are ALL about body functions (bold is mine):
"The controversial White House Correspondents Dinner comedian Michelle Wolf has deleted thousands of offensive Twitter messages – after tweeting jokes about Serena Williams having a penis, calling Eric Trump an 'abortion,' and claiming she wanted to have sex with Bill Clinton.
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http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/385565-michelle-wolf-on-correspondents-dinner-i-wouldnt-change-a (http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/385565-michelle-wolf-on-correspondents-dinner-i-wouldnt-change-a)
Michelle Wolf on correspondents' dinner: 'I wouldn't change a single word that I said'
Yikes.
Digging in on vulgar and stupid. :shrug:
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@mystery-ak
Neither had I. I just read this thread; had to do Bible study for a class I teach and haven't been on the forum long enough to post. Studying Bible and this Wolf woman's presentation at the same time, is an oxymoron - total opposites.
As a few do here, this Wolf woman used bathroom/body function words. A person consumed with using these words, including passing waste and reproduction part words, didn't pass potty training. She would lower her voice at the punch line, so sometimes I didn't get those words. She did that with the Sarah Sanders' "joke" so I didn't get the "joke" until I saw it in print. Poor joke, didn't make much sense. Felt sorry for Sanders after I saw it in print.
Essentially, she used the body part/function words so much, those were supposed to be the shocker to get laughs. One will remember those words, but what came before or after? Not much. Maybe comedians could have a contest with only saying body function words/parts, and people can vote for the most/worst words and that person is the winner.
To their credit, the White House Reporters Assn. has issued a denunciation of the Wolf woman's performance. I doubt there will be a bathroom comedian the next time.
I read five reporters were killed today somewhere in the middle east, think it is Afghanistan. Reporters are our ears/eyes on the world. I denounce Trump going after the press, calling them a public enemy. He would shut them all down so the people could only hear him - mass hypnotism. His ability to hypnotize people into believing whatever he wants them to, is working. Sheeple, Leemings. The next person/group he goes after, his followers will do the same.
@Victoria33
You're seriously comparing Trump to a suicide bomber?
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@Victoria33 You're seriously comparing Trump to a suicide bomber?
@driftdiver
Of course not. I'm saying reporters are our eyes/ears of what is happening around the world and they get killed doing this important work. My son was in Bosnia filming that war; hiding behind trees to film battles. He said after that he would not film another war, because people would see it on TV, then go to their kitchen to get something to eat or go to the bathroom, and he could be dead for making that film - it was not worth it. He also said he had a small son and said he wanted his son to have a father, not a dead father for making a film.
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@MOD3 @mystery-ak
aye aye Sir!
I should know by now the only people its acceptable to criticize around here are Trump supporters.
In order to have a contest, there must be at least two parties. Both parties were guilty of being boring.
If you have any other comments or questions on that topic, take it to PM.
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In order to have a contest, there must be at least two parties. Both parties were guilty of being boring.
If you have any other comments or questions on that topic, take it to PM.
@MOD3
Why you always picking on me
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@MOD3
Why you always picking on me
You're such a mod magnet.
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@dfwgator
Imagine you were on a bus. Engaging in some locker room talk and unbeknown to you the other guy was recording it.
Then released it for national news.
Now that would suck
Now imagine your on national television telling supporters to beat up protestors, mocking disabled reporters, joking about women bleeding out of their "whatever," and calling Mexicans rapists and drug dealers. Now imagine throngs of supporters cheering.
I'm having a hard time building any sympathy for Trump apologist Sanders.
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@MOD3
@driftdiver
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I'm having a hard time building any sympathy for Trump apologist Sanders.
Well since you have about as much respect for the Trump administration as the average MSNBC host, why do you think anyone cares if you have sympathy or not?
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Well since you have about as much respect for the Trump administration as the average MSNBC host, why do you think anyone cares if you have sympathy or not?
@Frank Cannon
Two type of people;
One group of people tearing Trump down want to replace him with another Obama. The other offers no alternative whatsoever.
I have no use and no respect for either.
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@Frank Cannon
Two type of people;
One group of people tearing Trump down want to replace him with another Obama. The other offers no alternative whatsoever.
I have no use and no respect for either.
NOW...you're feelin' me!! :laugh:
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@Frank Cannon
Two type of people;
One group of people tearing Trump down want to replace him with another Obama. The other offers no alternative whatsoever.
I have no use and no respect for either.
Well not only do I not tear Trump down, BUT I have an alternative.
Two words: Joey Fatone.
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Well not only do I not tear Trump down, BUT I have an alternative.
Two words: Joey Fatone.
One word.
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One word.
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No silly. 'N Sync.
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No silly. 'N Sync.
My first image wouldn't post as it had a bad word in the link.
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Now imagine your on national television telling supporters to beat up protestors, mocking disabled reporters, joking about women bleeding out of their "whatever," and calling Mexicans rapists and drug dealers. Now imagine throngs of supporters cheering.
I'm having a hard time building any sympathy for Trump apologist Sanders.
You do realize her job position, right?
I would hope you treated Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan, Tony Snow, Robert Gibbs, Josh Earnest and Sean Spicer with the same level of disrespect. White House Press Secretaries lose their own voice the moment they take the job. They HAVE to say what their bosses say in order to keep their paycheck. That's probably why Mrs. Sanders didn't leave the dinner: she knew when she took the job that it required a total loss of dignity.
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You do realize her job position, right?
I would hope you treated Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan, Tony Snow, Robert Gibbs, Josh Earnest and Sean Spicer with the same level of disrespect. White House Press Secretaries lose their own voice the moment they take the job. They HAVE to say what their bosses say in order to keep their paycheck. That's probably why Mrs. Sanders didn't leave the dinner: she knew when she took the job that it required a total loss of dignity.
@jmyrlefuller
I thought she was very dignified. The lack of dignity existed with the woman who attacked her and those who blame Mrs. Sanders for being attacked.
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@jmyrlefuller
I thought she was very dignified. The lack of dignity existed with the woman who attacked her and those who blame Mrs. Sanders for being attacked.
I thought she was, too. She put the rest of that room to shame.
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Well since you have about as much respect for the Trump administration as the average MSNBC host, why do you think anyone cares if you have sympathy or not?
@Frank Cannon You respond to my post, and ask me why I think anyone cares. :pondering:
I rarely view MSNBC out of choice, but I believe I have much more respect for President Trump than any MSNBC host. You may know the hosts better, but I doubt any applauded the President of the GOP for taxcuts, Gorsuch, and moving the Israel embassy to Jerusalem, as I have.
I participate in public debate to help form my opinions. I offered a contrasting point to the reaction over the White House Correspondence Dinner with examples of the President's speech and behavior as well as the reaction of his supporters. I was looking to find some recognition of the hypocrisy that is see.
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@jmyrlefuller
I thought she was very dignified. The lack of dignity existed with the woman who attacked her and those who blame Mrs. Sanders for being attacked.
^^^^
This!
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I participate in public debate to help form my opinions.
LOL. You rely on a bunch of cracked pots on a nebulous forum to formulate your thinking? Good God man.
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LOL. You rely on a bunch of cracked pots on a nebulous forum to formulate your thinking? Good God man.
A man or a lesbian in a mans body who is married to another man in pretends to be a woman who is a lesbian in a mans body.
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I didn't know about her abortion "joke", but it puts what she said about Sanders in the shade.
"He (Pence) thinks abortion is murder which, first of all, don't knock it 'til you try it — and when you do try it, really knock it. You know, you've got to get that baby out of there."
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You do realize her job position, right?
I would hope you treated Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan, Tony Snow, Robert Gibbs, Josh Earnest and Sean Spicer with the same level of disrespect. White House Press Secretaries lose their own voice the moment they take the job. They HAVE to say what their bosses say in order to keep their paycheck. That's probably why Mrs. Sanders didn't leave the dinner: she knew when she took the job that it required a total loss of dignity.
@jmyrlefuller
I can think of one White House press secretary who refused to stick around long enough to lose his dignity---J.F. terHorst, who walked after one month over Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon. Whatever you do or don't think of that pardon, there's something admirable about a man who refuses to defend what he thinks is the indefensible. (terHorst decided to resign when he learned of the pardon the night before Ford was to announce it publicly; he once said he "stayed up most of that night just formulating a three-paragraph letter of resignation.")
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You do realize her job position, right?
I would hope you treated Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan, Tony Snow, Robert Gibbs, Josh Earnest and Sean Spicer with the same level of disrespect. White House Press Secretaries lose their own voice the moment they take the job. They HAVE to say what their bosses say in order to keep their paycheck. That's probably why Mrs. Sanders didn't leave the dinner: she knew when she took the job that it required a total loss of dignity.
You have constructed an excellent argument. You present your interpretation of my post, and a forceful counter argument, backed up by logic and facts. It is honest and is designed to illicit a response, without belittling me. That is a skill.
I respect Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan, and Tony Snow greatly because of who they chose to represent. I had a lot of sympathy for the job they did. I had that sympathy because President Bush IMO was by his speech and actions a President of all the people. I believe he had rules and standards of conduct. I believe he wouldn't publicly make fun of elected officials, media figures, groups or individual Americans because of their looks, gender, race, religion, or intelligence. YMMV but I would like to hope none of President Bush's Press Secretaries feel the damage to their dignity wasn't worth the reward.
Still I have found fault with all 3 at some time and I would not be shocked if I have insinuated or outright proclaimed each as apologists in the past. I imagine I have found times when I treated them with the same level of disrespect.
You have invited me to disparage or defend rats Robert Gibbs, and Josh Earnest. I decline. The only nice thing I feel compelled to say about Josh Earnest is I love his name. Obama sucked and I don't need to convince you why.
I respected Spicer's resignation most, but I respect Spicer because I like Spicer. It is human nature to defend the people we like, Thank God. I excuse his propaganda because I knew him from twitter a year before he became Press Secretary. I at least know who he wants me to think he is.
He is wicked funny and smart as a whip, but when called to regurgitate the President's BS he said "largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period." First day.
I know a Press Secretary has to say what she is told. That does not require me to respect her position.
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to clarify my opinion.
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LOL. You rely on a bunch of cracked pots on a nebulous forum to formulate your thinking? Good God man.
Who else will put up with us @Frank Cannon ?
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. . . President Bush . . . I believe he had rules and standards of conduct. I believe he wouldn't publicly make fun of elected officials, media figures, groups or individual Americans because of their looks, gender, race, religion, or intelligence.
Those were probably the most admirable qualities about George W. Bush.
But if he was "president of all the people," then it should have called the people's wisdom, never mind his, into serious question.
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Those were probably the most admirable qualities about George W. Bush.
But if he was "president of all the people," then it should have called the people's wisdom, never mind his, into serious question.
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Dubya failed at many things. I am not embarrassed to say I voted for him twice.
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Dubya failed at many things. I am not embarrassed to say I voted for him twice.
I voted for him once; then, seeing precisely what the aforementioned book describes take place, and seeing concurrently the corruption of the Libertarian Party presidential candidate Harry Browne in 2004, I changed my registration to independent and cast a write-in vote for Groucho Marx, on two grounds:
a) I remembered Artemus Ward's counsel that if we couldn't find a live man who amounted to anything, by all means let's have a first class corpse. (And, if the dead could vote in Chicago, the living should be able to vote for the dead.)
b) Any man who could say as Groucho Marx once did, Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it, and misapplying the wrong solutions, showed more political wisdom than anyone running for office alive and well.
I've lived in Nevada since 2007, and there is no write-in vote allowed here, so the only viable option for me since has been "None of These Candidates." I cast it in 2008, 2012, and 2016, and I still think it was the only reasonable vote I could cast without robbing me of the ability to sleep at night.
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NOW...you're feelin' me!! :laugh:
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" I changed my registration to independent and cast a write-in vote for Groucho Marx."
"Any man who could say as Groucho Marx once did, Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it, and misapplying the wrong solutions, showed more political wisdom than anyone running for office alive and well.
:cool: :cool: :cool:
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You do realize her job position, right?
I would hope you treated Ari Fleischer, Scott McClellan, Tony Snow, Robert Gibbs, Josh Earnest and Sean Spicer with the same level of disrespect. White House Press Secretaries lose their own voice the moment they take the job. They HAVE to say what their bosses say in order to keep their paycheck. That's probably why Mrs. Sanders didn't leave the dinner: she knew when she took the job that it required a total loss of dignity.
@jmyrlefuller The fact that it's difficult to retain dignity while dealing with a room full of total idiots is a huge tribute to Sarah Sanders. She does it every day and I have never seen her lose dignity. I think she may be the most universally admired member of the administration.
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I think [Sanders] may be the most universally admired member of the administration.
If Nikki Haley isn't.