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Title: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: mystery-ak on June 14, 2021, 07:20:23 pm
Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
By Alex Gangitano - 06/14/21 02:54 PM EDT

The Vatican cautioned American bishops against denying communion to politicians, including President Biden, over their support for abortion rights.

The New York Times reported Pope Francis has warned that communion can’t be used as a political weapon by Catholic bishops. Biden is the second Catholic president in U.S. history, following President John F. Kennedy.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) will convene their three-day June General Assembly starting on Wednesday and are expected to force debate and a vote on the issue of communion, despite the pope’s warning.

“The concern in the Vatican is not to use access to the Eucharist as a political weapon,” Antonio Spadaro, a Jesuit priest and ally of the pope, told the Times.

Earlier this month, the pope spoke about communion as “not the reward of saints, but the bread of sinners,” the Times also reported.

Biden’s support for abortion rights has often been in the spotlight since it’s at odds with some leaders of the Catholic Church. Biden has been open about his devotion to his Catholic faith and attends Mass most weekends.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/558343-vatican-warns-bishops-not-to-deny-communion-to-biden-politicians-over
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: mountaineer on June 14, 2021, 07:25:43 pm
What does this Pope stand for, then?
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: mystery-ak on June 14, 2021, 07:32:10 pm
I think the US Bishops should refuse communion to all pro-abortionists...Since when does the Catholic Church condone or look the other way at abortion... 8888crybaby
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: mystery-ak on June 14, 2021, 07:53:57 pm
US bishops to discuss Communion ban for Biden, left-wing politicians with 'antithetical' views
The US Conference of Catholic Bishops previously supported bishops denying communion

https://www.foxnews.com/us/bishops-communion-ban-biden-politicians
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: libertybele on June 14, 2021, 08:31:37 pm
I think the US Bishops should refuse communion to all pro-abortionists...Since when does the Catholic Church condone or look the other way at abortion... 8888crybaby

It was very heart warming to see Men marching for pro life.   Biden is such a hypocrite and why should the Catholic Church even recognize him?? 
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: libertybele on June 14, 2021, 08:32:22 pm
What does this Pope stand for, then?

Good question. He has gone against the very core beliefs of the Catholic Church.
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 14, 2021, 08:58:04 pm
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Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: libertybele on June 14, 2021, 09:18:44 pm
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Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: Wingnut on June 14, 2021, 09:24:12 pm
Not my Pope.  He should have been black smoked in perpetuity from the Sistine Chapel.
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: mystery-ak on June 14, 2021, 09:25:34 pm
Not my Pope.  He should have been black smoked in perpetuity from the Sistine Chapel.

Agreed :crying:
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: mystery-ak on June 14, 2021, 09:32:25 pm
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This year the Democrats control the White House and Congress, a scary site for those who actually value life and believe in the Bible. God says life starts in the womb, in fact he says I knew you before you were even in the womb.

    Psalm 139:13-16
    For You formed my inward parts;
    You wove me in my mother’s womb.
    I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
    Wonderful are Your works,
    And my soul knows it very well.
    My frame was not hidden from You,
    When I was made in secret,
    And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth;
    Your eyes have seen my unformed substance;
    And in Your book were all written
    The days that were ordained for me,
    When as yet there was not one of them.

From Matt Couch
https://thedcpatriot.com/sickening-democrat-bill-would-allow-killing-babies-in-abortions-up-to-birth-at-taxpayer-expense/

and posted here
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,439985.0.html
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: Sled Dog on June 14, 2021, 11:21:53 pm
What does this Pope stand for, then?

Socialism.

And socialism means murder.  Always has, always will.

Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: Sled Dog on June 14, 2021, 11:25:01 pm
It was very heart warming to see Men marching for pro life.   Biden is such a hypocrite and why should the Catholic Church even recognize him??

Money and power.

That's why they shelter their child-molester priests.   

That's why they promote the invasion of the United States by hispanics.   

That's why they won't excommunicate baby-killing politicians who promote sexual deviancy and abortion.   

Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: Wingnut on June 14, 2021, 11:28:14 pm
Money and power.

That's why they shelter their child-molester priests.   

That's why they promote the invasion of the United States by hispanics.   

That's why they won't excommunicate baby-killing politicians who promote sexual deviancy and abortion.   

Come on... ****slapping
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: libertybele on June 14, 2021, 11:45:15 pm
Come on... ****slapping

I read the response .... "thou shalt not insult or make personal attacks".           :whistle:    (Point was made)           
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: GtHawk on June 15, 2021, 12:03:07 am
What does this Pope stand for, then?
Socialism, Fagotry, and with the all but sanctioning of the sacrifice of innocents.................could it be Satan?
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: libertybele on June 15, 2021, 12:21:07 am
Socialism, Fagotry, and with the all but sanctioning of the sacrifice of innocents.................could it be Satan?

Perhaps the anti-christ???

 Past popes have been accused

By the year 1400, another narrative of the Antichrist had arisen. Now he was no longer the tyrant outside of the Church but the deceiver within it. In short, he was the Pope or even the institution of the papacy and the Church themselves.

As the English religious radical John Wycliffe (c. 1329-84) put it,

    … the Pope may obviously be the Antichrist, and yet not just that sole single individual… but rather the multitude of popes holding that position … along with the cardinals and bishops of the church.

This was the position on the Antichrist adopted by Protestants at the time of the 16th century Reformation. Martin Luther (1483-1546) was convinced that he was living in the last days. For him, the Pope fitted all the criteria for the Antichrist. The Pope, he declared, “is the true end times Antichrist who has raised himself over and set himself against Christ”.


https://theconversation.com/five-things-to-know-about-the-antichrist-148172
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: christian on June 15, 2021, 02:57:08 am
Anti-Christ long ago was used as a term to mean anti-Christian and was applied to a great many people.  In these days of the End Times, it is more often used towards a particular infamous person-leader,who comes before the Christ.
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: jafo2010 on June 15, 2021, 03:56:21 am
We had a Nazi, now we have a communist pope.  No surprise his supporting Biden.  I fully expect this Christian leader to approve abortion in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: Sled Dog on June 15, 2021, 04:10:04 am
I read the response .... "thou shalt not insult or make personal attacks".           :whistle:    (Point was made)         

How were those statements an insult or personal attack to anyone here?   

Did I mention any names?

Do I even know if any here is a Roman Catholic?    Besides myself, I mean?   (Damn that Irish heritage....)

Some people are easily offended by statements of historical fact...?   What's the matter?

Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: mountaineer on June 15, 2021, 01:13:40 pm
Catholic News Agency:
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Update: Meeting between Pope Francis and President Biden did not happen
By CNA Staff
Vatican City, Jun 14, 2021 / 16:55 pm

In a story June 14, 2021, about Joe Biden and Pope Francis, the Catholic News Agency, based on information provided by a source, erroneously reported that the U.S. President would meet with the pope on June 15. According to Vatican sources June 15, there is no meeting currently scheduled between Pope Francis and President Joe Biden.

A corrected version of the story is below:

President Joe Biden’s attendance at early morning Mass with Pope Francis was nixed from an early plan for the first meeting of both leaders, a reliable Vatican source told CNA.

President Biden is currently in Europe for several high level meetings, offering a potential opportunity to meet with Pope Francis. According to Vatican sources June 15, there is no meeting currently scheduled between the two men.  ...
Full story (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/247997/update-meeting-between-pope-francis-and-president-biden-did-not-happen)

Having had some experience with both the Christian Church/Disciples of Christ and Presbyterian Church USA denominations, I'd say the Pope is trying to follow their example of ignoring Scripture altogether. (We left the PCUSA in 2015).
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: Sled Dog on June 15, 2021, 07:38:50 pm
Catholic News Agency:Full story (https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/247997/update-meeting-between-pope-francis-and-president-biden-did-not-happen)

Having had some experience with both the Christian Church/Disciples of Christ and Presbyterian Church USA denominations, I'd say the Pope is trying to follow their example of ignoring Scripture altogether. (We left the PCUSA in 2015).

Marxists cannot be Christians.

Christ demands charity in the heart.

Marx demands charity at gunpoint.
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: christian on June 15, 2021, 08:41:48 pm
It has long been said This will be the last Pope.  Looking at how amoral, politically correct this Pope is, its easy to see how this Pope will drive nails in the coffin of the office of the Pope.  Many Christian leaders persuade abomination is appropriate IN THE CHURCH.  The Bible teaches ABOMINATION is worthy of DEATH!
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: libertybele on June 15, 2021, 08:54:34 pm
It has long been said This will be the last Pope.  Looking at how amoral, politically correct this Pope is, its easy to see how this Pope will drive nails in the coffin of the office of the Pope.  Many Christian leaders persuade abomination is appropriate IN THE CHURCH.  The Bible teaches ABOMINATION is worthy of DEATH!

Yes, it has been said for some time that this will be the last pope, but my interpretation has always been that he will be the last pope because of end times.  With his socialistic ideologies and going against the Church, I have little doubt.                                                                                                                                                     
Title: Re: Vatican warns bishops not to deny communion to Biden, politicians over abortion
Post by: Absalom on June 15, 2021, 08:57:38 pm
This Pontiff is the offspring of Latin Peronists who were devoted to Juan Peron.
He was also a hard leftist in the mold of Mussolini, long before the Vatican.
The core blame here, resides w/the College of Cardinals, a collection of
frauds & hustlers to Roman Catholicism, who elected Jackass Frankie.