Finally, there’s the creeping realization that their brand of conservatism is all hat and no cattle. Their moral preening and appeals to as yet undefined principles are just postures. In the end, their thing was just a jobs program for people unable to do productive work. As one of the moonbats at the post points out, it is a movement with no base. No matter what happens Tuesday, the pro-Trump people will never forget these traitors or welcome them back.
After liberation, French women guilty of “collaboration horizontale” were dragged into the street to have their heads shaved. It was punishment for betrayal of their people. The Dutch did the same, but they also sent their collaborators to work camps in New Guinea. Many were simply shot, of course. Immediately after the liberation, almost 200.000 Dutch citizens were interned in camps and prisons and put on trial. Sadly, this is not what awaits the traitors of NeverTrump, but at some level they know they will never be “us” again.
When Trump loses, the Trumpkins will come hat-in-hand, begging to rejoin the politically sane. Trumpism will be dead.
So how do you like your crow cooked. I noticed not a single work of reality crept into this thread.Who is hiding? Who is creeping? I, for one, am doing neither. If you or those of your ilk wish me harm, bring it on. If you want to act like adults and move forward, I'm all for that, too, so enough bullshit. Defecate or vacate the pot.
The Trumpsters are not creeping or hiding but those who spoke against them sure the hell are.
So how do you like your crow cooked. I noticed not a single work of reality crept into this thread.
The Trumpsters are not creeping or hiding but those who spoke against them sure the hell are.
When Trump loses, the Trumpkins will come hat-in-hand, begging to rejoin the politically sane. Trumpism will be dead.
So how do you like your crow cooked. I noticed not a single work of reality crept into this thread.
The Trumpsters are not creeping or hiding but those who spoke against them sure the hell are.
What I wonder is, why are the "winners" still filled with rage?
When Trump loses, the Trumpkins will come hat-in-hand, begging to rejoin the politically sane. Trumpism will be dead.
What I wonder is, why are the "winners" still filled with rage?
None of us who didn't vote for Trump because he lacks character, integrity, and morality have changed our minds about that.
Some of us are surprised he won, but then again, Hillary was one of the worst two candidates ever chosen by the elites of the parties to run (Trump was the other).
But we are NOT hiding. Just waiting for yet another four years before we can get an actual President again. 12 years is a long time to be without a competent leader. **nononono*
What I wonder is, why are the "winners" still filled with rage?@musiclady
None of us who didn't vote for Trump because he lacks character, integrity, and morality have changed our minds about that.
@musiclady
@CatherineofAragon
@mystery-ak
I am an individual just as others who did not vote for Trump, are individuals. I don't think I ever referred to myself as being a "NeverTrumper". Others put me in that category.
In your list of descriptions of Trump, I add he has a serious personality disorder which makes him dangerous, plus he has a twitter fascination disorder. That is why I did not vote for him. He is still twitting, attacking people. He will always have an "attack Rosie O'Donnell" personality. He lives for attacking others and making money by legal means AND nefarious methods.
I believe he will drain our national treasury of as much money as he can to add to his wealth. Right now, he is costing us "huge" amounts of money for the Secret Service to secure his building. The Secret Service will be housed in his building and we will pay rent to Trump to be there and Trump will set the rental rate. That cost to us will be there for the rest of his life.
I have been thinking of his campaign and always flying to Trump Tower to be in his own bed every night from any location where he was that day. I believe he always sleeps in one of his buildings, never anywhere else. Due to this behavior, I think he is afraid to sleep anywhere else - if he doesn't own it, he isn't staying there. This problem has surfaced already with his saying he doesn't want to stay in the White House. I can see him using Air Force One to fly to the White House every day, flying back to Trump Tower every night. That is a "huge" drain on our money.
George Washington did not accept a salary when he was President. He said he would only take money to pay his expenses. However, his bill for his "expenses" was much more than his salary would have been. Trump says the same, he won't take a salary. He is pulling a George Washington. Always look into the reason he says anything - his personality disorder dictates what he says and does.
We're not filled with rage.
Because they refused to cast their votes for Trump, they are off-the-hook for anything 'bad' that happens during the next four years.
But at the same time, they are sure as hell not responsible for positive outcomes either.
It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood again, @musiclady ! For many here, however, there will always be this:
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@musiclady
@CatherineofAragon
@mystery-ak
I am an individual just as others who did not vote for Trump, are individuals. I don't think I ever referred to myself as being a "NeverTrumper". Others put me in that category.
In your list of descriptions of Trump, I add he has a serious personality disorder which makes him dangerous, plus he has a twitter fascination disorder. That is why I did not vote for him. He is still twitting, attacking people. He will always have an "attack Rosie O'Donnell" personality. He lives for attacking others and making money by legal means AND nefarious methods.
I believe he will drain our national treasury of as much money as he can to add to his wealth. Right now, he is costing us "huge" amounts of money for the Secret Service to secure his building. The Secret Service will be housed in his building and we will pay rent to Trump to be there and Trump will set the rental rate. That cost to us will be there for the rest of his life.
I have been thinking of his campaign and always flying to Trump Tower to be in his own bed every night from any location where he was that day. I believe he always sleeps in one of his buildings, never anywhere else. Due to this behavior, I think he is afraid to sleep anywhere else - if he doesn't own it, he isn't staying there. This problem has surfaced already with his saying he doesn't want to stay in the White House. I can see him using Air Force One to fly to the White House every day, flying back to Trump Tower every night. That is a "huge" drain on our money.
George Washington did not accept a salary when he was President. He said he would only take money to pay his expenses. However, his bill for his "expenses" was much more than his salary would have been. Trump says the same, he won't take a salary. He is pulling a George Washington. Always look into the reason he says anything - his personality disorder dictates what he says and does.
Guess the so called 'winners' have noticed that their guy is still raging on twitter. Someone please tell him the campaign is over and he can stop spitting, slandering, and debasing everyone outside his domain.
Because they refused to cast their votes for Trump, they are off-the-hook for anything 'bad' that happens during the next four years.
But at the same time, they are sure as hell not responsible for positive outcomes either.
No, we are not responsible for the consequences of Trump - either good or bad in terms of our vote a few weeks ago. Some of us do not look at elections as nothing more than sporting events. If Trump serves his oath well, he will receive the appropriate accolades, and if not - the appropriate scorn, criticism and derision we leveled at Obama for his usurpation of the rule of law and our principles.
Out duty was to vote the candidates who best represented our principles and whom we felt based on evidence would best uphold the Constitution and the rule of law.
Trump was not that person. So our expectations are very low.
Which leaves room to be pleasantly surprised.
It's actually 'genius' for him to use Twitter. ESPECIALLY, as POTUS.
What better way to circumvent the lying sacks in the so-called 'mainstream' media?
This way, he speaks unfiltered...directly to the People.
I would normally agree with that sentiment, if it were anyone but Trump.
Trump uses Twitter to stoke up animosity and rage against those he targets.
More than dangerous in the hands of a head of state that uses social media for such purposes.
I would normally agree with that sentiment, if it were anyone but Trump.The greatest dangers to using Twitter, unfiltered, are the cumulative releases of information which, assembled, could compromise national security.
Trump uses Twitter to stoke up animosity and rage against those he targets.
More than dangerous in the hands of a head of state that uses social media for such purposes.
We have complained about Obama and the left doing exactly that because they inspire the nutcases to act.Between beer summits and silence, their approval for the actions of radicals has ranged from overt to tacit, fully encouraging those actions.
OMFG! Why do some of you persist in acting like jackasses? Your man won. Be happy. Sometimes I think some of you are certifiable.
Please stop trying to ruin this site. If you don't have any self-respect, at least show some respect for @mystery-ak and @R4 TrumPence . I for one am sick and tired of the childishness. If you *must* rub noses in the dirt, why don't you focus on the Liberals or are their tears not good enough for you? Believe me, none of those that recognize that Trump is not socially conservative are crying. They're happy knowing the HRC has been relegated to the dustbin of loser history. You aren't going to get your dirt-encrusted tear satisfaction from us; especially since a great number of us voted for your man over the Hildabeast.
Give it up already!
/rant off
OMFG! Why do some of you persist in acting like jackasses? Your man won. Be happy. Sometimes I think some of you are certifiable.
Please stop trying to ruin this site. If you don't have any self-respect, at least show some respect for @mystery-ak and @R4 TrumPence . I for one am sick and tired of the childishness. If you *must* rub noses in the dirt, why don't you focus on the Liberals or are their tears not good enough for you? Believe me, none of those that recognize that Trump is not socially conservative are crying. They're happy knowing the HRC has been relegated to the dustbin of loser history. You aren't going to get your dirt-encrusted tear satisfaction from us; especially since a great number of us voted for your man over the Hildabeast.
Give it up already!
/rant off
The greatest dangers to using Twitter, unfiltered, are the cumulative releases of information which, assembled, could compromise national security.
People who are not painfully aware of how crumbs can be analyzed to assemble remarkably accurate pictures of what is going on behind the scenes can leak information that could be critical and remain oblivious to doing so, especially hotheaded people.
Aside from that, there remains the possibility of a hacked account broadcasting faux statements which could cause a lot of trouble in everything from international relations to the markets, if the genuine account holder doesn't manage to accomplish that all by himself.
I'm more concerned about using that tech to gin up animosity and hatred against any person or group that disagrees with Trump. We have watched him do that this entire campaign. He did it to Cruz and his wife. We saw him do it to Ben Carson. He even spent an entire week slamming a Venezuelan beauty pageant contestant for her remarks that dissed his candidacy.I agree.
What happens to those of us who disagree with Trump on policy? Are we to be made pariahs of the state? Worse?
Twitter is an awful tool in the hands of a demagogue without restraint.
I agree.
First the appeal is to people who can express their worldview on a person or topic in 140 characters or less, who require neither in depth information, nor have the attention span to digest it. It is the backyard fence combined with a lynch mob moving at the speeds of high bandwidth.
"Social media" have been used to enhance and organize riots, already. It would take little to gin up a brownshirt squad to go after specific victims. The only defense would be to get in and follow those likely to be involved so one could mount a credible defense.
I'm more concerned about using that tech to gin up animosity and hatred against any person or group that disagrees with Trump.
You don't think Hillary had even more potential to do that given the left's much greater influence within the mainstream media -- not just news, but entertainment, etc.?Hillary is a footnote. Obama used all that to good effect to keep Baltimore and Fergusson going. He even sent out DOJ field reps.
Honestly, I'm still seeing far more actual thuggery from the left than I am from Trump's supporters, and it's not even close.
You don't think Hillary had even more potential to do that given the left's much greater influence within the mainstream media -- not just news, but entertainment, etc.?
Honestly, I'm still seeing far more actual thuggery from the left than I am from Trump's supporters, and it's not even close.
You don't think Hillary had even more potential to do that given the left's much greater influence within the mainstream media -- not just news, but entertainment, etc.?
Honestly, I'm still seeing far more actual thuggery from the left than I am from Trump's supporters, and it's not even close.
Having attended many of the mandatory annual and biannual briefings on the care of, accountability, release, and control of classified data I know exactly what Hillary was briefed on. She was required to take these very same briefings and Obama has certified that she did. (he was her boss and it was his responsibility to ensure she attended these mandatory briefings)
This means that I, and millions of vets, have primary knowledge of what she was told in these classes. It also means that we all know she lied her ass off and is guilty as hell of creating the largest national security breach in the history of our nation.
That is why it is imperative to continue the investigation of her criminal activities and to utilize a federal grand jury and impartial special prosecutor to complete the process.
Both Hillary and her supporters think she is above the laws and the rule of law in our nation.
NOT!!!!!
We have complained about Obama and the left doing exactly that because they inspire the nutcases to act.
The thing about Trumpers is that they don't want a conservative, Constitution abiding POTUS. They want an obama that makes decisions they like. For example, I don't want any president, R, D, or otherwise, creating executive orders. Trumpers are fine with executive orders as long as those orders are in thier interest. Mind you, they railed against obama using his pen and his phone, but Trump is thiers so it's okay.
@Smokin Joe
First the appeal is to people who can express their worldview on a person or topic in 140 characters or less, who require neither in depth information, nor have the attention span to digest it.
@Smokin Joe"Spurty" seems appropriate. A spurt, after all, is just a drip under pressure.
I have never used twitter and won't. I cannot explain my solving the world's problems in 140 characters or less. Also, writing a few sentences often leaves the reader to make a wrong interpretation of the sentences.
Trump uses twitter as his brain works in spurts (no deep thinking there) and he also speaks in spurts. We have a spurty (I just made up that new word) president.
"Spurt definition: to expel in a stream or jet."
"If you or those of your ilk wish me harm, bring it on".
Really, you just insinuated a huge lie in indicating that I may be a violent person. I'm not, at least not anymore.
I left that behind along with 24 years with the 75th airborne. And by the way anyone who knows anything about delivering lethal violence would never, ever, warn someone or brag about it on a board like this.
I took your rookie post as a professional insult. LOL not really I just took it as coming from an ignorant keyboard warrior.
Just kidding of course.
My GI bill was totally wasted in 3 years of on campus gunsmithing college. I didn't totally waste all my ARMY training. I now build and shoot long range comp rifles.
Insinuating that someone is or maybe violent over a post in here when no threat is made is totally irrational.
So how do you like your crow cooked. I noticed not a single work of reality crept into this thread.
The Trumpsters are not creeping or hiding but those who spoke against them sure the hell are.
"I have been threatened by enough Trumpers at TOS I've had it with this shit. If you feel froggy, leap. Otherwise, either we get along and do something for this country, or who got elected won't make a damned bit of difference".I don't know what I'd do with another pair. You were the one who said we were creeping and hiding and I am not doing either one. If you weren't the one threatening, fine, my apologies.
As I stated, I did 24 years with the 75th airborne Rangers. In that time I served overseas for 16 years and completed 6 different combat tours.
I have done much for my country but the keyboard warriors are way to ignorant to see or understand what true service to our country really looks like.
I have said nothing that is a threat to you. You have indicated that I have and that is a bold faced lie.
I am a moderate independent and take shots from both the left and the right. Political boards are a bloodsport so one should enjoy the confrontations or not be here.
When you lob a shot across my bow you get a broadside from me. If you don't like it then don't take cheap shot insinuations at me. If you do then grow a pair and take your medicine.
Guess the so called 'winners' have noticed that their guy is still raging on twitter. Someone please tell him the campaign is over and he can stop spitting, slandering, and debasing everyone outside his domain.
I have been threatened by enough Trumpers at TOS I've had it with this shit. If you feel froggy, leap. Otherwise, either we get along and do something for this country, or who got elected won't make a damned bit of difference.
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Mockery doesn't make it not true. It just means you don't care. Face your Maker and tell Him you don't care about political bullying so long as it is used to promote your candidate. Ultimately He will judge the truth of the matter.Well, like I said, "Otherwise, either we get along and do something for this country, or who got elected won't make a damned bit of difference."
As I stated, I did 24 years with the 75th airborne Rangers. In that time I served overseas for 16 years and completed 6 different combat tours.
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doghouse wrote: " As I stated, I did 24 years with the 75th airborne Rangers. In that time I served overseas for 16 years and completed 6 different combat tours."Quote
MY response:
"I almost never post here anymore,but I would like to hear more about that,starting with when your service with the 75th Abn Rangers began."
@doghouse
Yoo,HOO! Anybody home at the doghouse?
doghouse wrote: " As I stated, I did 24 years with the 75th airborne Rangers. In that time I served overseas for 16 years and completed 6 different combat tours."Quote
MY response:
"I almost never post here anymore,but I would like to hear more about that,starting with when your service with the 75th Abn Rangers began."
@doghouse
Yoo,HOO! Anybody home at the doghouse?
bttt :pondering:
The bullying from trumpsters takes the form of threats to life and limb of the target as well as threats to the life and limb of their children.
Somehow the bullying and denigrating of Joe the plumber was unacceptable with little more than revelations of his personal information.
This new type of threat seems to be just fine with the trumpsters.
How pathetic is this hypocrisy?
Seems to me the gist here centers around violence - is the Trump Mob more violent or less violent than the Hillary Mob?
If we were to be purely analytical about the subject we would need to employ a computer with the ability to tabulate violent incidents and designate blame to one side or the other. We would also need to define a time frame, the last 2 years, the last 20 years, etc. And lastly we'd also require some sort of concrete definition of what exactly constitutes a violent act.
Assuming that all could be done in a purely analytical fashion (it cannot) the net result would be an unbiased print out with 2 columns and a total at the bottom of each. Those totals would theoretically settle the debate. Because the computer removes emotion from the equation the net results would be about the best we could hope for as a definitive answer.
If it were only that easy we could settle a good number of debates in a similar manner.