The Briefing Room
General Category => Immigration/Border => Topic started by: rangerrebew on May 07, 2018, 04:55:27 pm
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All members of Central American caravan now in U.S.
Gustavo Solis and David Hernandez Contact Reporters
The last group of asylum seekers from the Central American caravan crossed into the United States this morning.
A little after 9 a.m. a group of about 70 walked into the U.S. Port of Entry as friends planning to stay in Mexico waved goodbye and some cheered as the others walked into the U.S.
“I don’t know what I’m going to do,†he said.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...504-story.html (http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...504-story.html)
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http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...504-story.html (http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...504-story.html)
@rangerrebew
The link does not work.
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@rangerrebew
The link does not work.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/immigration/sd-me-caravan-allin-20180504-story.html (http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/immigration/sd-me-caravan-allin-20180504-story.html)
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Any GOP conservative congress person could introduce a bill to change the immigration regulations.
Asylum provisions could reduced or eliminated. Entry could be weighed more heavily towards US needs, not phony political persecution claims.
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Any GOP conservative congress person could introduce a bill to change the immigration regulations.
Asylum provisions could reduced or eliminated. Entry could be weighed more heavily towards US needs, not phony political persecution claims.
This was a choice by our government; they did not have to be admitted. They were in Mexico where they could have requested asylum.
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This was a choice by our government; they did not have to be admitted. They were in Mexico where they could have requested asylum.
I'm laughing my ass off.
If people have not figured out that the government Beast and BOTH political parties have decided to replace the existing US Citizen with third world squatters who make better communist slaves, then they never will.
Camp of the Saints is here, inside our borders.
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Two hundred twenty-eight of them are in the USA now. The article says it takes months/years to decide whether they stay or go. How can these be followed to know where they are once they leave that facility? My opinion is they will never find them again.
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Two hundred twenty-eight of them are in the USA now. The article says it takes months/years to decide whether they stay or go. How can these be followed to know where they are once they leave that facility? My opinion is they will never find them again.
Catch and Release...We'll never see them again. Only an idiot would show up back in court to risk being denied and deported.
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A couple of 'winning' flashbacks..
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=310661.0 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=310661.0)
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=310806.0 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=310806.0)
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Catch and Release...We'll never see them again. Only an idiot would show up back in court to risk being denied and deported.
I thought the new rule was they would stay in detention until the hearing, and that Sessions has sent more US Attorneys to the border courts to expedite. What happened?!
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I thought the new rule was they would stay in detention until the hearing, and that Sessions has sent more US Attorneys to the border courts to expedite. What happened?!
I'll have to confess, I don't know. My understanding was that Sessions wasn't changing anything in their procedure, and I could be totally wrong about it. If we were detaining them until hearings, I would expect the media screaming to be pretty high, and I'm not hearing it. Hence, my possibly erroneous assumption. :shrug:
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@Cyber Liberty No, I'm sure you're right. I just don't understand what the new attorneys on the border, etc., are for. ;( Especially after all the publicity.
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@LauraTXNM
From the few stories I found on Google about the Asylum process, I know why the attorneys are there. Over 90% of the immigrants without attorneys fail in their initial applications for Asylum and get deported immediately. They never leave the custody of ICE. But in cases of those with attorneys, almost all get bound over for hearings, and are released into the United States. There is a wait of about a year for that hearing. They usually show up, are approved and get green cards.
That is why there all those attorneys. They make the difference between being immediately deported and getting green cards.
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Any GOP conservative congress person could introduce a bill to change the immigration regulations.
Asylum provisions could reduced or eliminated. Entry could be weighed more heavily towards US needs, not phony political persecution claims.
There's the bottom line. As is, either existing procedure or some federal judge can thwart any attempt at stemming the tide.
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There's the bottom line. As is, either existing procedure or some federal judge can thwart any attempt at stemming the tide.
One things clear now. If it still can be changed this immigration farce will have to be changed from the inside out - it cannot be changed by fiat or by one or two pieces of legislation. There are too many interested parties determined to keep the party going.
And I don't think we have the time.
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I'm laughing my ass off.
If people have not figured out that the government Beast and BOTH political parties have decided to replace the existing US Citizen with third world squatters who make better communist slaves, then they never will.
@INVAR
Close,but no cigar. What people need to figure out is that there is only ONE political party in the US anymore,and it maintains two branches so they can get away with pretending we are still a "nation of the people".
Enough voters have figured this out to have gotten Trump,the "non-Party candidate" elected,and that is why so many Party People hate his guts. They know that if enough people figure out they no longer have to vote for one of the Usual suspects put forward by both branches of the Ruling Party they are in deep doo-doo.
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Two hundred twenty-eight of them are in the USA now. The article says it takes months/years to decide whether they stay or go. How can these be followed to know where they are once they leave that facility? My opinion is they will never find them again.
@Victoria33
All they would have to do is follow the welfare,Food Stamps, and housing checks.
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@Cyber Liberty No, I'm sure you're right. I just don't understand what the new attorneys on the border, etc., are for. ;( Especially after all the publicity.
@LauraTXNM
They are there to represent the refugees,not us.
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@LauraTXNM
From the few stories I found on Google about the Asylum process, I know why the attorneys are there. Over 90% of the immigrants without attorneys fail in their initial applications for Asylum and get deported immediately. They never leave the custody of ICE. But in cases of those with attorneys, almost all get bound over for hearings, and are released into the United States. There is a wait of about a year for that hearing. They usually show up, are approved and get green cards.
That is why there all those attorneys. They make the difference between being immediately deported and getting green cards.
@Cyber Liberty
BINGO! 888high58888
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@Cyber Liberty @sneakypete Ok, I did some rechecking, and Sessions sent PROSECUTING attorneys and judges. It's just nowhere near enough, in the sense that they need more detention spaces and about 10,000 prosecutions per month.
I don't know WHAT they think they're going to do with all the children aged 4 and up -- if they follow Sessions' policy of separating the parents and kids while they incarcerate the parents. Juvenile halls? Foster parents?
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@Cyber Liberty @sneakypete Ok, I did some rechecking, and Sessions sent PROSECUTING attorneys and judges. It's just nowhere near enough, in the sense that they need more detention spaces and about 10,000 prosecutions per month.
I don't know WHAT they think they're going to do with all the children aged 4 and up -- if they follow Sessions' policy of separating the parents and kids while they incarcerate the parents. Juvenile halls? Foster parents?
It's certainly a mess. Sessions is sending more Prosecutors, and the Commies are sending more Defense Attorneys (that's the part I read. LA Times), the only pieces missing are the Judges.
I don't know how that's going to shake out with the kids. This will take Solomon-level Judges to figure out.
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@Cyber Liberty @sneakypete Ok, I did some rechecking, and Sessions sent PROSECUTING attorneys and judges. It's just nowhere near enough, in the sense that they need more detention spaces and about 10,000 prosecutions per month.
I don't know WHAT they think they're going to do with all the children aged 4 and up -- if they follow Sessions' policy of separating the parents and kids while they incarcerate the parents. Juvenile halls? Foster parents?
Usually families stay together in detention facilities. Not sure that's what they intend.
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What people need to figure out is that there is only ONE political party in the US anymore,and it maintains two branches so they can get away with pretending we are still a "nation of the people".
We're both saying the same thing, just in different ways. We have a Beast run by an Oligarchy and the 'two parties' are just the shell game they use to create the illusion that the people have a choice in the direction of government.
They know that if enough people figure out they no longer have to vote for one of the Usual suspects put forward by both branches of the Ruling Party they are in deep doo-doo.
As long as people are too afraid to break free of two thoroughly corrupted, infiltrated and perverted parties, they are going to forever be slaves of the Ruling Party and lie to themselves that we are free.
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Usually families stay together in detention facilities. Not sure that's what they intend.
I believe Sessions specifically said they were going to discontinue the practice of putting families into the Detention Centers together. I have no idea how that would work politically. The only way the optics could be worse would be if we loaded them onto cattle cars.
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@Cyber Liberty @sneakypete Ok, I did some rechecking, and Sessions sent PROSECUTING attorneys and judges.
@LauraTXNM Thank you,I stand corrected,and am happy to be wrong!
It's just nowhere near enough, in the sense that they need more detention spaces and about 10,000 prosecutions per month.
Which is one reason why we never should have let them in to start with. When they were still in Mexico,it was Mexico's problem to feed,house,and clothe them. Sooner or later Mexico would have gotten fed up with footing the bill,and started stopping them on their southern border instead of giving them a free pass through to the US.
I don't know WHAT they think they're going to do with all the children aged 4 and up -- if they follow Sessions' policy of separating the parents and kids while they incarcerate the parents. Juvenile halls? Foster parents?
I don't see how they can get away with separating the small children from their families. There are going to be law suits about this that shuts that down,and the kids and their families will STILL in IN the US when the dust clears.
It is a HELL of a lot easier to deny them entry than it is to deport them.
BTW,what good is a freaking wall if the barb wire we have now is stopping them,and we are letting them in anyhow?
Cheaper,too!
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I believe Sessions specifically said they were going to discontinue the practice of putting families into the Detention Centers together. I have no idea how that would work politically.
@Cyber Liberty
I'm not lawyer,and don't even play one on teebee,but I have no idea how that can even be legal,never mind work.
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@Cyber Liberty
I'm not lawyer,and don't even play one on teebee,but I have no idea how that can even be legal,never mind work.
I don't know either, because I don't know what the law clearly says, nor how the lawyer-types are going to twist what it clearly says.
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@Cyber Liberty @sneakypete Apparently the plan is to prosecute the parents ASAP, incarcerate them to serve their sentence for illegal entry and child smuggling(!), and send the. Kids wherever to wait for their parents. I think Sessions may have lost it, but he is a layer, so???
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@Cyber Liberty @sneakypete Apparently the plan is to prosecute the parents ASAP, incarcerate them to serve their sentence for illegal entry and child smuggling(!), and send the. Kids wherever to wait for their parents. I think Sessions may have lost it, but he is a layer, so???
I think he's loony-toons about a lot of things. See, we're not really very different about that. :pondering: :shrug:
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Oops, Sessions is a laWyer ;). Although "layer" works nicely.
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Oops, Sessions is a laWyer ;). Although "layer" works nicely.
@LauraTXNM
So does "layee". After all,he is a professional politician,so chances are he gives AND receives.