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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on December 05, 2018, 11:33:29 pm
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Trump shrugs off future debt crisis: ‘I won’t be here’
by Caitlin Yilek
| December 05, 2018 02:28 PM
President Trump is dismissing the importance of paying down the national debt, saying he won’t be in office to take blame for the nation's fiscal crisis when it becomes even more unsustainable, according to a report Wednesday.
The national debt sits at $21 trillion and counting. As a candidate, when the national debt was $19 trillion, Trump promised to erase the entire debt “over a period of eight years.â€
Senior administration officials showed Trump charts and graphics in early 2017 that illustrated a “hockey stick†spike in the debt in the coming years. Trump said the data showed the national debt would only become untenable after he left office, the Daily Beast reported.
“Yeah, but I won’t be here,†Trump said.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-shrugs-off-future-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-shrugs-off-future-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here)
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People close to the president told the news outlet that the national debt never actually bothered Trump, despite his public comments about it.
“I never once heard him talk about the debt,†one former White House official said.
More unnamed "officials" get the spotlight.
Disappointing.
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IF Trump does not keep his promise on the WALL, the mounting debt and the border wall could very easily make him a one term president. He has a very small window in which to get the budget for the wall passed. It's not going to happen -- if he was going to get his wall, it would have already happened.
The next two years are going to get even tougher for him. My hunch is he won't run again anyways. For him to have this attitude won't help should he seek re-election.
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More unnamed "officials" get the spotlight.
Disappointing.
Unless you can show me the Tweet,....didn't happen. :laugh:
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“Yeah, but I won’t be here,†Trump said.
I can't fault him for being indifferent. Who in Congress is willing to do anything about entitlements and the built in annual increases in budgets?
Everybody is passing the problem on to the next guy. When the day comes that people would rather buy Chinese bonds rather than USA bonds people will see how bad the problem is, but by then it will be to late.
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I don't recognize 'unnamed officials'.
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Seems like unnamed sources are all the media uses to report on Trump these days.
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Source: thedailybeast.
I don't recognize 'unnamed officials'.
Unless you can show me the Tweet,....didn't happen. :laugh:
More unnamed "officials" get the spotlight.
Disappointing.
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Trump shrugs off future debt crisis: ‘I won’t be here’
No politician is stupid enough to say that, though they may mean it deep down.
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Unless you can show me the Tweet,....didn't happen. :laugh:
88devil
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88devil
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No politician is stupid enough to say that, though they may mean it deep down.
Sure...like nobody would be stupid enough to hire Cohen, think meeting with Russian representatives during the campaign was a good idea, tell voters ‘lock her up’ sounds great on the campaign trail, but now we don’t care....
On and on.....
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No politician is stupid enough to say that, though they may mean it deep down.
This is the same guy who tossed a Starburst to Angela Merkel saying 'don't say I never gave you nothin'. The media will happily take one of his dad jokes out of context if it makes for some negative reportage.
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Sure...like nobody would be stupid enough to hire Cohen, think meeting with Russian representatives during the campaign was a good idea, tell voters ‘lock her up’ sounds great on the campaign trail, but now we don’t care....
On and on.....
Don't deflect. Talk to the issue at hand. Did Trump say it? What say you Eric.
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Did Trump say it?
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This is the same guy that bragged about securing $700B for the military last year, then tweeted how crazy that was just a couple days ago. So, he has a propensity for saying contradictory stupid things.
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His pure determination to stick with his 'Can't Miss' strategy to increase the standard of living for all Americans through lower taxes, deregulation and the use of a tariffs to enforce better trade agreements.
He's betting that more employed Americans equals more taxes collected.
And like I've said many times. What Obama did by bringing the debt to $19 Trillion...what's the difference between 19 and 28?
Nothing. It's all Monopoly money at this point anyway.
...and we're not going to be here. :laugh:
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This is the same guy that bragged about securing $700B for the military last year, then tweeted how crazy that was just a couple days ago. So, he has a propensity for saying contradictory stupid things.
And that is your evidence. "A propensity for saying contradictory stupid things"?
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And that is your evidence. "A propensity for saying contradictory stupid things"?
Yes, because there’s a record of it. If someone told me Rosey Grier crochets, it’s believable and makes sense, because he does needlepoint. So, it’s entirely believable Trump would say ‘so what’ to the deficit, given he’s publicly dismissed other things he’s previously made an issue.
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This is the standard view of most Americans.
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Yes, because there’s a record of it. If someone told me Rosey Grier crochets, it’s believable and makes sense, because he does needlepoint. So, it’s entirely believable Trump would say ‘so what’ to the deficit, given he’s publicly dismissed other things he’s previously made an issue.
That is a lot to digest. I will say Roosevelt Grier was a hellofa guy. He disarmed Sirhan Bishara Sirhan. He reportedly was a NFL Football player and also a master crocheter. But I think you are pulling a non sequiturs out of thin air in an atempt to promote your argument.
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That is a lot to digest. I will say Roosevelt Grier was a hellofa guy. He disarmed Sirhan Bishara Sirhan. He reportedly was a NFL Football player and also a master crocheter. But I think you are pulling a non sequiturs out of thin air in an atempt to promote your argument.
There’s nothing to promote. I believe he said it, because he’s prone to saying dumb things and he’s more interested in what makes him look good or bad, over what’s best for the country. You don’t believe it. That’s pretty much the end of the story.
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There’s nothing to promote. I believe he said it, you don’t. That’s pretty much the end of the story.
Proof is still needed. Respectfully my old friend, till then, we have an internet stalemate.
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“Yeah, but I won’t be here,†Trump said.
I can't fault him for being indifferent. Who in Congress is willing to do anything about entitlements and the built in annual increases in budgets?
Everybody is passing the problem on to the next guy. When the day comes that people would rather buy Chinese bonds rather than USA bonds people will see how bad the problem is, but by then it will be to late.
China owns a pretty small amount of our debt. Most of it is owed to banks and social security.
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China owns a pretty small amount of our debt. Most of it is owed to banks and social security.
Actually around 5% = appx. $1.17 T
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Actually around 5% = appx. $1.17 T
Wouldn't be hard to pay that back. We need to stop selling our souls to banks and taking from social security.
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Wouldn't be hard to pay that back. We need to stop selling our souls to banks and taking from social security.
There is and never has been a social security fund. All of the payments for social security go into the general fund. There is no "lock box" or any other location it goes.
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Sure it's dubious sources but anyone here remembers Trump didn't campaign on Debt/Deficit, other than a few stupid statements how he could fix it in 8 years.
This is certainly plausible that he actually said this, IMHO. This is what happens when you elect a rewashed NY Liberal instead of a REAL Conservative.
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This is certainly plausible that he actually said this, IMHO. This is what happens when you elect a rewashed NY Liberal instead of a REAL Conservative.
Oh, give it a rest. Take a look at what Reagan did to the national debt and how he whitewashed it. If memory serves, Ronnie was a REAL conservative.
You argue nonsense. @corbe How about some concrete ideas from you .... what would you like this administration to do. Be specific.
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Meh, he probably did say it and it shouldn't be a shock to anyone if he did, cinsidering that at some point along the timeline he explained that now was the perfect time to borrow *more* money becuase of the low interest rates. However, I don't recall the Washington Examiner, or anyone else besides us peons, complaining when Ostupid was running our debt up.
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For starters @Right_in_Virginia
1: RESIGN
2: Move to Slovenia with your wife and raise your son.
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Actually around 5% = appx. $1.17 T
Foreign entities in total - 42%.
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For starters @Right_in_Virginia
1: RESIGN
2: Move to Slovenia with your wife and raise your son.
You argue and debate like a spoiled little girl @corbe Why not try posting something of substance, something intelligent once in a while?
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Sure it's dubious sources but anyone here remembers Trump didn't campaign on Debt/Deficit, other than a few stupid statements how he could fix it in 8 years.
This is certainly plausible that he actually said this, IMHO. This is what happens when you elect a rewashed NY Liberal instead of a REAL Conservative.
Agreed entirely plausible. It's no secret that he built his wealth and empire on debt along with making some deals that he didn't keep promises on. All too familiar.
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It's much too late in the day to be asking that of me @Right_in_Virginia
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Man it would really help a lot of young people if the government took one of those trillions it tosses around at bullshit and like, eliminated student loan debt.
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For starters @Right_in_Virginia
1: RESIGN
2: Move to Slovenia with your wife and raise your son.
I don't see him moving to Slovenia, but I do see him stepping down in 2020. While he appears to thrive on stress and a hectic schedule, he'll be 74 years old.
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Man it would really help a lot of young people if the government took one of those trillions it tosses around at bullshit and like, eliminated student loan debt.
A Bernie troll to boot.
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Man it would really help a lot of young people if the government took one of those trillions it tosses around at bullshit and like, eliminated student loan debt.
Why would we do that @Dexter they ain't gonna vote GOP? I think a better use of $1T would be to subsidize sex robots, have you checked the cost lately?
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Why would we do that @Dexter they ain't gonna vote GOP?
Because educated young people are the future of this nation. The world is going to start changing very rapidly with technology. I want the United States to continue leading the way.
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Man it would really help a lot of young people if the government took one of those trillions it tosses around at bullshit and like, eliminated student loan debt.
You mean some of the dollars that the government took out of my paycheck for all of my working life after I paid for my own education? The hell with that.
However, you can send in your money for that purpose if you like. The IRS has a way for you to do that. Just go to the IRS site.
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Man it would really help a lot of young people if the government took one of those trillions it tosses around at bullshit and like, eliminated student loan debt.
Money for nothing and your chicks for free...
:whistle: *****rollingeyes*****
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Money for nothing and your chicks for free...
:whistle: *****rollingeyes*****
The nation is 21 trillion in debt and what have Americans gained for that?
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I don't see him moving to Slovenia, but I do see him stepping down in 2020. While he appears to thrive on stress and a hectic schedule, he'll be 74 years old.
Be careful not to judge the man by your limitations.
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The nation is 21 trillion in debt and what have Americans gained for that?
Howabout quit spending money?
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The nation is 21 trillion in debt and what have Americans gained for that?
What would you give up to reduce the debt @Dexter
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You mean some of the dollars that the government took out of my paycheck for all of my working life after I paid for my own education? The hell with that.
However, you can send in your money for that purpose if you like. The IRS has a way for you to do that. Just go to the IRS site.
Thank God the new generation is less selfish than you are. In fact, I bet if you spent all your money now and didn't have enough to live on as you get older, that they are so selfless that they'll pay for you to continue living in the manner to which you've becone accustomed.
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What would you give up to reduce the debt @Dexter
Wars for the warmongers that profit off of them.
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This is exactly why I believe government should not be able to run debt, including things like pensions. OPM.
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Wars for the warmongers that profit off of them.
FFS
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Man it would really help a lot of young people if the government took one of those trillions it tosses around at bullshit and like, eliminated student loan debt.
Can't tell here if your being serious or joking ?? I'll assume because of some of your other posts that you are serious.
Perhaps it would do a lot of young people good to advise them if they can't afford college then they shouldn't go or perhaps work while they are going to college to pay for it! It's a no brainer and has been done for decades. It's pretty stupid to take out a loan that you can't afford to pay off. Those that have already taken the plunge and are in debt need to get debt counseling to help them pay it off!!
No one paid for my children to go to college, nor did we expect them to. We funded a college program for both of them when they were very young and it was affordable by the time they were ready to attend. We also paid for their books and dorm and they worked and paid for whatever else they wanted. No, they didn't attend ivy league schools, but they don't owe on student loans either. No free ride. No debt.
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You mean some of the dollars that the government took out of my paycheck for all of my working life after I paid for my own education? The hell with that.
However, you can send in your money for that purpose if you like. The IRS has a way for you to do that. Just go to the IRS site.
That's the funny thing. It wouldn't come out of your tax dollars. Your tax dollars aren't "enough" to cover the current ridiculous spending levels. It would just be paid for with more borrowing.
Who do these idiots think is going to end up footing the bill for all this "free" stuff they want?
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Who do these idiots think is going to end up footing the bill for all this "free" stuff they want?
If we can blow 21 trillion on bullshit we can blow 1 trillion on giving an incredible amount of young people an edge. If Obama gave a damn about Americans that would have been his stimulus package. Maybe he could have thrown another trillion at making sure old people don't lose everything when they get sick. Maybe we could make a ridiculous amount of jobs for the economy by throwing a couple trillion at rebuilding our infrastructure. Let's build the wall while we're at it. None of these people are fighting for us.
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Apparently the Millennia's are still under the mistaken impression of 'Don't worry Mom & Dad will pay it off'
So typical of those slackers.
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If we can blow 21 trillion on bullshit we can blow 1 trillion on giving an incredible amount of young people an edge.
Yeah... because your free stuff is of course, the important free stuff.
STOP spending money. We are on the fast track to Venezuela.
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Wars for the warmongers that profit off of them.
Which ones are those @Dexter
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Yeah... because your free stuff is of course, the important free stuff.
STOP spending money. We are on the fast track to Venezuela.
We aren't. You and me will be long since put out to the porch or the pasture when it comes time to pay the bill. It's the idiots who think they can make things free by fiat that will end up paying the price.
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Man it would really help a lot of young people if the government took one of those trillions it tosses around at bullshit and like, eliminated student loan debt.
It's not "my" (taxpayers) fault that a lot of stupid asses took out loans for college degrees that are, for all intents and purposes, completely effin' useless and they now find they can't repay their OBLIGATION.
And yet, you want "me" (taxpayer) to bail them out of their stupid ass decisions?
Get bent.
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If we can blow 21 trillion on bullshit we can blow 1 trillion on giving an incredible amount of young people an edge.
Young people "on edge"? On EDGE? Just who the hell raised this generation of snowflakes?
God help us.
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It's not "my" (taxpayers) fault that a lot of stupid asses took out loans for college degrees that are, for all intents and purposes, completely effin' useless and they now find they can't repay their OBLIGATION.
And yet, you want "me" (taxpayer) to bail them out of their stupid ass decisions?
Get bent.
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We aren't. You and me will be long since put out to the porch or the pasture when it comes time to pay the bill. It's the idiots who think they can make things free by fiat that will end up paying the price.
I don't think that's right... I think that unless there are drastic steps taken to reign in the fed, you and I will see it fall before we die. Our children and our grand children will suffer the consequences.
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It's not "my" (taxpayers) fault that a lot of stupid asses took out loans for college degrees that are, for all intents and purposes, completely effin' useless and they now find they can't repay their OBLIGATION.
And yet, you want "me" (taxpayer) to bail them out of their stupid ass decisions?
Get bent.
That extra trillion we'd owe to the banks would really impact your life, huh?
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I don't think that's right... I think that unless there are drastic steps taken to reign in the fed, you and I will see it fall before we die. Our children and our grand children will suffer the consequences.
Nonsense. The people that run everything will not let their game fall apart.
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It's not "my" (taxpayers) fault that a lot of stupid asses took out loans for college degrees that are, for all intents and purposes, completely effin' useless and they now find they can't repay their OBLIGATION.
And yet, you want "me" (taxpayer) to bail them out of their stupid ass decisions?
Get bent.
But, but, they have it so hard and stuff. Do you have any idea what a burden it is to be expected to actually pay your own bills?
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If Trump said this, which is highly dubious, he is totally correct. I have been hearing the panic freaks about the debt for 40 years now. All claiming any minute we are going to collapse. We had one of the biggest collapses ever in '08 and not only did we manage through, we are rebounding like crazy now. Debt could sink us but it is going to be so far down the road most of us here won't be alive to see it.
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Get bent.
Roger that.
(LOL! let's see which way that statement is taken :silly:)
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I don't think that's right... I think that unless there are drastic steps taken to reign in the fed, you and I will see it fall before we die. Our children and our grand children will suffer the consequences.
I think it'll go on longer than we will. The US has the great "advantage" of having the reserve currency and being the great safe haven, so we can put off the damage much longer than others.
Which may be unfortunate. We may well be the last generation capable of getting through it while preserving liberty.
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If Trump said this, which is highly dubious, he is totally correct. I have been hearing the panic freaks about the debt for 40 years now. All claiming any minute we are going to collapse. We had one of the biggest collapses ever in '08 and not only did we manage through, we are rebounding like crazy now. Debt could sink us but it is going to be so far down the road most of us here won't be alive to see it.
The reports of the demise of the United State have been greatly exaggerated. But not without those who wish to see it happen,
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Did someone say Get Bent?
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Nonsense. The people that run everything will not let their game fall apart.
Tell that to Charles Ponzi.
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Nonsense. The people that run everything will not let their game fall apart.
Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money.
True. Always.
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The reports of the demise of the United State have been greatly exaggerated. But not without those who wish to see it happen,
Just like all the rest of the Global Warming/Global Cooling/Peak Oil/Fiat Currency Is Dead crowd who has been making dire predictions (and setting up money making ventures from such) telling us for decades we are all doomed. They say this and that WILL happen in 10 or 20 years and when we get there they get stuck moving the goals another 10 or 20 years.
Wake me up when something actually happens.
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Just like all the rest of the Global Warming/Global Cooling/Peak Oil/Fiat Currency Is Dead crowd who has been making dire predictions (and setting up money making ventures from such) telling us for decades we are all doomed. They say this and that WILL happen in 10 or 20 years and when we get there they get stuck moving the goals another 10 or 20 years.
Wake me up when something actually happens.
Big difference. All but one of those groups claim a 10-20 year time frame. The one that doesn't has always ended up being right.
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Wake me up when something actually happens.
Sleep tight.
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It's not "my" (taxpayers) fault that a lot of stupid asses took out loans for college degrees that are, for all intents and purposes, completely effin' useless and they now find they can't repay their OBLIGATION.
And yet, you want "me" (taxpayer) to bail them out of their stupid ass decisions?
Get bent.
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Nonsense. The people that run everything will not let their game fall apart.
I'm beginning to wonder if you live in reality or somewhere in la la land?
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Spoken like a true Keynesian. The same attitude evinced by J.M. Keynes, the great advocate of deficit spending as economic stimulus, when he said "In the long run, we're all dead." (Though it predates him: the old pagans said "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.")
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Nonsense. The people that run everything will not let their game fall apart.
That was the attitude of the populace during the period of decadence that preceded every sudden collapse of an empire or civilization. And at some level they were right: the people that ran everything didn't "let their game fall apart", but it and everything around it fell apart anyway.
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I'm beginning to wonder if you live in reality or somewhere in la la land?
I think it is now normal for millennials to live in la la land and think it is reality.
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I think it is now normal for millennials to live in la la land and think it is reality.
My advice to them is to head "west", California is a wonderful place!
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My advice to them is to head "west", California is a wonderful place!
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I'm beginning to wonder if you live in reality or somewhere in la la land?
There was a movie made a few years back, I think it fits this discussion perfectly.
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Don't blink, here's the sequel:
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I don't doubt Trump may have said something like that. I just doubt the spin being put on his comment.
Trump proposed big entitlement cuts in his 2019 budget, which didn't go through. So, you could take his alleged comment as meaning "if future Congresses/Presidents are unwilling to cut spending, that's on them."
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Today’s media has elevated the misrepresentation of Donald Trump’s comments to an art form. It has nothing to do with truth and everything to do with the establishment bureaucracy and its media supporters’ hatred for the man.
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I don't doubt Trump may have said something like that. I just doubt the spin being put on his comment.
Trump proposed big entitlement cuts in his 2019 budget, which didn't go through. So, you could take his alleged comment as meaning "if future Congresses/Presidents are unwilling to cut spending, that's on them."
Gee thanks for the interpretation of what he probably could have meant. :whistle:
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Amazing how some people want to have it both ways...they will believe unnamed and "Anonymous" sources when they are posting OpEds against Trump denounce the same kind of sources out of hand with articles like this.
I believe he probably said it...especially since he had no problem putting his signature on the last budget that got passed...and probably one of those anonymous #resist types that work in the Executive Branch is the leaker of this most recent quote.
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Readin' Dave wrote:
Though it predates him: the old pagans said "Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die."
Sounds like a practical and pragmatic philosophy, if you ask me.
Re "the debt":
It will be addressed.... someday.
That time remains A LONG ways off. Perhaps decades into the future.
The problem will remain "unfixed" until things break down so badly that by then it MUST be "fixed". But... not until that time arrives.
I doubt many of the ol' folks of this forum will live to see it.
(channeling old police shows):
"that is all...."
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That time remains A LONG ways off. Perhaps decades into the future.
Generations more likely. The next 100 years will be crucial. We need to help young people.
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Generations more likely. The next 100 years will be crucial. We need to help young people.
You remind me of my 6 year old, to whom "help" means doing it for him.
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Generations more likely. The next 100 years will be crucial. We need to help young people.
No. We have to help old people. And the downtrodden.
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You remind me of my 6 year old, to whom "help" means doing it for him.
It amazes me the way some of you prioritize things. History will see your generation as the one that tripped and lost us our place in the world.
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You remind me of my 6 year old, to whom "help" means doing it for him.
I date a 54yo Woman that has that same train of thought @RoosGirl I wish someone would have nipped it in the bud when she was 6.
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It amazes me the way some of you prioritize things. History will see your generation as the one that tripped and lost us our place in the world.
History won't even write about your generation because the 'apathy' of it all.
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It amazes me the way some of you prioritize things. History will see your generation as the one that tripped and lost us our place in the world.
It amazes me you think you need and deserve things handed to you on a silver platter.
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It amazes me you think you need and deserve things handed to you on a silver platter.
I don't need anything personally. I want my generation and the one that follows it to be successful. You're kidding yourself if you think financial success wasn't a lot easier when you were young.
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It amazes me the way some of you prioritize things. History will see your generation as the one that tripped and lost us our place in the world.
I don't believe in abortion. But if I had a time machine I would have paid for a taxi ride to a planned parenthood office for your mother.
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I don't need anything personally. I want my generation and the one that follows it to be successful. You're kidding yourself if you think financial success wasn't a lot easier when you were young.
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Like you said previously, you don't *want* to sound like you think you're special, but you do think you're special, that you've done things that other people aren't smart/clever enough to do.
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I don't need anything personally. I want my generation and the one that follows it to be successful. You're kidding yourself if you think financial success wasn't a lot easier when you were young.
Success has to be earned. It comes no other way.
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I don't believe in abortion. But if I had a time machine I would have paid for a taxi ride to a planned parenthood office for your mother.
Some people provide an example to others of what not to be.
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Success has to be earned. It comes no other way.
Our young people earned their education by being the Americans that will shape our future.
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Our young people earned their education by being the Americans that will shape our future.
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Our young people earned their education by being the Americans that will shape our future.
That makes absolutely no sense.
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Our young people earned their education by being the Americans that will shape our future.
WOW! Is that ever a bunch of entitled bullshit!
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WOW! Is that ever a bunch of entitled bullshit!
The mindset of entitlement on full display. That's what participation trophies get you...
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The mindset of entitlement on full display. That's what participation trophies get you...
A rudderless and lost generation not prepared for adulthood.
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The mindset of entitlement on full display. That's what participation trophies get you...
That's right...
Here's a song for @Dexter (turn it up)
Sorry... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-8l8v3h1Bg#)
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Y'all should encourage the young people in your lives to learn Chinese.
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Man it would really help a lot of young people if the government took one of those trillions it tosses around at bullshit and like, eliminated student loan debt.
It’s cute how you try to randomly throw out socialist propaganda thinking we won’t catch on.
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Y'all should encourage the young people in your lives to learn Chinese.
No, we encourage our kids to pull on their boots, hitch up their belts and go make something of themselves.
You flat don't understand, son. You gotta do it on your own, or it doesn't count.
When you make your own way, it comes with humility, charity, self confidence, and pride.
It ain't about the money.
All that glitters is not gold.
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Y'all should encourage the young people in your lives to learn Chinese.
Why.
You think China is the future?
Like Japan was the "future" in the 1980s?
You have a lot to learn.
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It’s cute how you try to randomly throw out socialist propaganda thinking we won’t catch on.
Dex is the latest in a long line of dem plants who visit us.
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Y'all should encourage the young people in your lives to learn Chinese.
Which do you speak? Cantonese or Mandarin?
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It amazes me the way some of you prioritize things. History will see your generation as the one that tripped and lost us our place in the world.
Lost you your place! Son, we didn’t lose you your place, you failed to earn it!
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That makes absolutely no sense.
Okay, I’ve had enough. I’m outing her. Alexi Hyphenated Whatshername is @Dexter . There. You know the truth.
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Which do you speak? Cantonese or Mandarin?
He talks a lot of shit. No translation needed.
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Lost you your place! Son, we didn’t lose you your place, you failed to earn it!
Damn straight!
These poor kids are so wrapped up in liberal-gimme-ism that they don't even know how to get up and do for themselves.
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Lost you your place! Son, we didn’t lose you your place, you failed to earn it!
Nailed it!
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He talks a lot of shit. No translation needed.
LOL. Top Notch!!!!
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That makes absolutely no sense.
Unless you're the age of say Occasio-Cortez.
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Our young people earned their education by being the Americans that will shape our future.
IF that's true they we're screwed.
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IF that's true they we're screwed.
This is the generation that will finally vote to take our 401k or whatever other retirement savings we have worked hard to squirrel away because it's not fair that they have to work as hard (or God forbid harder in some cases) as we have to save it.
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This is the generation that will finally vote to take our 401k or whatever other retirement savings we have worked hard to squirrel away because it's not fair that they have to work as hard (or God forbid harder in some cases) as we have to save it.
That's why I have been advocating for people to convert all their assets to cryptos and bury them in lead lined boxes in the back yard. Millennials have no idea how shovels works so even if they know you have them they won't be able to figure out how to get them.
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That's why I have been advocating for people to convert all their assets to cryptos and bury them in lead lined boxes in the back yard. Millennials have no idea how shovels works so even if they know you have them they won't be able to figure out how to get them.
I hear you. I've already done this, but instead of cryptos I'm doing rice and beans. If on some odd chance they do figure out how to dig them up they sure as shit won't know how to cook it.
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I hear you. I've already done this, but instead of cryptos I'm doing rice and beans. If on some odd chance they do figure out how to dig them up they sure as shit won't know how to cook it.
Rice and beans is so yesterday...... and ethnic. Plus Glen Beck doesn't promote that as a way to prepare for the future....
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Rice and beans is so yesterday...... and ethnic. Plus Glen Beck doesn't promote that as a way to prepare for the future....
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I was considering Ramen, but thought there was a chance of them knowing how to use the microwave to boil water.
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I was considering Ramen, but thought there was a chance of them knowing how to use the microwave to boil water.
I don't think they can handle opening the seasoning packets. That's why they buy quinoa by the 5 gallon bucket at the local health food store.
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All y'all have is looking down at people and talking smack, convincing yourselves that you're better. You have no answers. This is why conservatism is dying.
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All y'all have is looking down at people and talking smack, convincing yourselves that you're better. You have no answers. This is why conservatism is dying.
The answer is deep, across the board cuts in spending. But no one has the political will and they wouldn’t be popular with the electorate as people want government programs but don’t want to pay for them so Congress borrows the money and the Federal Reserve prints money and those elected keep the mess going as a result and hopes the day of reckoning doesn’t happen on their watch
Those who are dismissive of the negative impacts of too much debt should look at what happened in Southern Europe or Detroit here. And keep an eye on the looming pension crisis especially in states like CA.
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The answer is deep, across the board cuts in spending. But no one has the political will and they wouldn’t be popular with the electorate as people want government programs but don’t want to pay for them so Congress borrows the money and the Federal Reserve prints money and those elected keep the mess going as a result and hopes the day of reckoning doesn’t happen on their watch
Those who are dismissive of the negative impacts of too much debt should look at what happened in Southern Europe or Detroit here. And keep an eye on the looming pension crisis especially in states like CA.
And, a restoration of western culture. Western culture is what has allowed us to be valued as individuals, to live the lives we do today and to virtually eliminate obligate poverty.
There are many forces combined now to destroy western culture from the social justice movement, to 3rd wave feminism, to anti-white groups, environmentalism, AGW and of course the move towards socialism.
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All y'all have is looking down at people and talking smack, convincing yourselves that you're better. You have no answers. This is why conservatism is dying.
I make fun of liberals, so sue me. They deserve every bit of ridicule that can be mustered.
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The answer is deep, across the board cuts in spending. But no one has the political will and they wouldn’t be popular with the electorate as people want government programs but don’t want to pay for them so Congress borrows the money and the Federal Reserve prints money and those elected keep the mess going as a result and hopes the day of reckoning doesn’t happen on their watch
Those who are dismissive of the negative impacts of too much debt should look at what happened in Southern Europe or Detroit here. And keep an eye on the looming pension crisis especially in states like CA.
Right, well, if our young people keep lagging behind we're going to lose our place in the world. That's the bottom line. Uncle Sam isn't going to give back the coin purse. It is crucial that the next couple of generations of Americans get ahead of the curve. Your refusal to waiver in the face of the entire world changing is admirable, but at this point you're just standing in the way and wasting the time of the people that will shape America's future.
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Right, well, if our young people keep lagging behind we're going to lose our place in the world. That's the bottom line. Uncle Sam isn't going to give back the coin purse. It is crucial that the next couple of generations of Americans get ahead of the curve. Your refusal to waiver in the face of the entire world changing is admirable, but at this point you're just standing in the way and wasting the time of the people that will shape America's future.
Being given things isn't "getting ahead of the curve". Y'all have screwed the pooch by believing that degrees in social justice and man bashing is worth more than the paper the diploma is printed on. Tell your buds to stop being bleep ups and go learn some useful information and apply it to real world problems. That's how you set the curve that the rest of the world will be trying to catch up to.
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Being given things isn't "getting ahead of the curve". Y'all have screwed the pooch by believing that degrees in social justice and man bashing is worth more than the paper the diploma is printed on. Tell your buds to stop being bleep ups and go learn some useful information and apply it to real world problems. That's how you set the curve that the rest of the world will be trying to catch up to.
You've convinced yourself of lies if you think making it easier/cheaper to receive higher education will make young people lazy and useless. You are so incredibly out of touch that you actually think millennials are not working hard. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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This is the generation that will finally vote to take our 401k or whatever other retirement savings we have worked hard to squirrel away because it's not fair that they have to work as hard (or God forbid harder in some cases) as we have to save it.
Thankfully I've instilled a better work ethic and aa sense of what it means to be successful in my kids than 99% of the snowflakes their age.
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Right, well, if our young people keep lagging behind we're going to lose our place in the world. That's the bottom line. Uncle Sam isn't going to give back the coin purse. It is crucial that the next couple of generations of Americans get ahead of the curve. Your refusal to waiver in the face of the entire world changing is admirable, but at this point you're just standing in the way and wasting the time of the people that will shape America's future.
You have no idea what 21 trillion is, and it’s obvious you’ve never heard of the Southern European debt crisis, unfunded liabilities, forced austerity, future state public employee pension crisis which is promises made to city and state public employee’s retirement which won’t be able to be kept, ect ect
You just know you want what you want and , by God, you should get it regardless if it can be realistically paid for or without weighing the pros and cons. That’s the difference between adult thought processes and that of a child
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You have no idea what 21 trillion is, and it’s obvious you’ve never heard of the Southern European debt crisis, unfunded liabilities, forced austerity, future state public employee pension crisis which is promises made to city and state public employee’s retirement which won’t be able to be kept, ect ect
You just know you want what you want and , by God, you should get it regardless if it can be realistically paid for or without weighing the pros and cons
Sooner or later America will have a public option for college and it won't destroy society. You're wasting everybody's time.
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All y'all have is looking down at people and talking smack, convincing yourselves that you're better. You have no answers. This is why conservatism is dying.
Actually what most of us have here on average...is 25-30 more years of real word experience than you currently have.
We have the answers based on life and failure and picking ourselves back up and trying again and again until we were/are successful.
You and most of your generation just don't want to listen to the answers because they will require you to go after what you want instead of having it handed to you.
Real life doesn't hand out trophies just for showing up.
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Sooner or later America will have a public option for college and it won't destroy society. You're wasting everybody's time.
There's already a "public option"
Scholarships
Grants
Education savings plans
Again the answers are there you're just too lazy to look.
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Actually what most of us have here on average...is 25-30 more years of real word experience than you currently have.
We have the answers based on life and failure and picking ourselves back up and trying again and again until we were/are successful.
You and most of your generation just don't want to listen to the answers because they will require you to go after what you want instead of having it handed to you.
Real life doesn't hand out trophies just for showing up.
Older people constantly underestimate how out of touch they are with things. Old people should be respected and listened to, but the young people with vision that change the world need to continue doing what they've always done.
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Older people constantly underestimate how out of touch they are with things. Old people should be respected and listened to, but the young people with vision that change the world need to continue doing what they've always done.
Drinking?
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There's already a "public option"
Scholarships
Grants
Education savings plans
Again the answers are there you're just too lazy to look.
Sooner or later we'll be doing what Europe has been doing for a long time. Young people are strong and they have vision. Underestimate my generation all you want, but we and the ones that follow us will change the world for the better.
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Sooner or later we'll be doing what Europe has been doing for a long time. Young people are strong and they have vision. Underestimate my generation all you want, but we and the ones that follow us will change the world for the better.
The fact that we're older means most of us heard the same "we'll fix the world" crap from our fellow young people back in the 1960s. Don't trust anyone over 30!
How'd that work out?
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Thankfully I've instilled a better work ethic and aa sense of what it means to be successful in my kids than 99% of the snowflakes their age.
You know that this generation has a massive sense of entitlement? I have kids that are in this age group and even they agree
The reality is cuts are going to be forced one day. The market will at some point force it. People will whine about it, become angry about it, they’ll be fights in Congress over it, some will even hold their breath and turn blue until they get what they want. But the fact is, you cannot defeat math or a lot of economics… period
Yes there are certain advantages the US has over other countries. Our economy leads the world, our debt and dollar are safe Havens for investors, and the dollar is the leading worlds reserve currency. When we enter a debt crisis, the first signs of it will be in cities, then states. We will have states that will look more like Greece than the nation as a whole
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Sooner or later America will have a public option for college and it won't destroy society. You're wasting everybody's time.
This is it? This was your response to everything I said?
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Sooner or later we'll be doing what Europe has been doing for a long time. Young people are strong and they have vision. Underestimate my generation all you want, but we and the ones that follow us will change the world for the better.
European young people are these days by and large lazier and feel more of a sense of entitlement than their U.S. cousins.
Germany is currently importing muslims by the thousands not out of the goodness of their heart...but because they need laborers...people to do the jobs that Germans won't do.
I don't underestimate the generation of my two kids...I just don't over hype them the way that you do.
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I don't underestimate the generation of my two kids...I just don't over hype them the way that you do.
We are strong. You need to believe in us. There will always be useless and broken people. That is not our generation. The internet children are going to change the world for the better. The absolute best thing old people can do for young people is make the process of becoming educated easier and more efficient. When I am old I will fight for young people to have it better and easier than I did. It doesn't feel like y'all think that way and it's disappointing.
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Real life doesn't hand out trophies just for showing up.
This last sentence I think sums up everything nicely. This is the generation that never kept score, their self-esteem was more important than actually learning anything as kids, they were told their backpacks could be too heavy if they had to take homework home. I remember hearing the stories And wondering what would happen when these kids become adult age?
Well, you now see one of the most privileged and comforted age groups whining about how hard they have it than any other generation that came before them. But I am confident that time and experience in the real world will be the best teacher. Every generation of young people believe they’re going to be the one’s changing the world and that their vision is superior to anyone else who’s come before or who will come after them. You can have all the visions you want. It’s getting other people to go along with them is the difficult part
Think about how you were and 18 or 19 or 20 years old compared to now and your thought process
today compared to how it was when you were young. Maturity, time, and real world experience shape that
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This last sentence I think sums up everything nicely. This is the generation that never kept score, their self-esteem was more important than actually learning anything as kids, they were told their backpacks could be too heavy if they had to take homework home. I remember hearing the stories And wondering what would happen when these kids become adult age?
Well, you now see one of the most privileged and comforted age groups whining about how hard they have it than any other generation that came before them. But I am confident that time and experience in the real world will be the best teacher. Every generation of young people believe they’re going to be the one’s changing the world and that their vision is superior to anyone else who’s come before or who will come after them. You can have all the visions you want. It’s getting other people to go along with them is the difficult part
Think about how you were and 18 or 19 or 20 years old compared to now and your thought process
Technology is evolving more and more rapidly. The world 100 years from now will have wonders beyond our comprehension.
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European young people are these days by and large lazier and feel more of a sense of entitlement than their U.S. cousins.
Germany is currently importing muslims by the thousands not out of the goodness of their heart...but because they need laborers...people to do the jobs that Germans won't do.
I don't underestimate the generation of my two kids...I just don't over hype them the way that you do.
Jumping in on a thread that I've only read the last page of is probably dangerous but I agree with you that it is up to us as parents to at least try to instill a work ethic and sense of responsibility into our children. I am really proud of my two, both of whom have excelled by dint of hard work.
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Technology is evolving more and more rapidly. The world 100 years from now will have wonders beyond our comprehension.
Perhaps. Or perhaps not. We could end up stagnating. But you seem excessively confident that your vision of how the world should be will be easy to implement upon others who may have a different vision
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But getting back to the original subject.
I would not be dismissive about our fiscal situation. I don’t know if Trump really said what he said. And I’m gonna need more evidence than someone claiming he said it. But if he did, it’s highly unfortunate. One of the reasons Social Security and Medicare are popular because they’re able to hide the true cost from the public. What’s promised can be passed onto another generation. Tell Americans that they have to pay the full cost, including the promises, without borrowing or printing, and you would see riots that would make those French fuel tax riots seem like just a little misunderstanding
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The fact that we're older means most of us heard the same "we'll fix the world" crap from our fellow young people back in the 1960s. Don't trust anyone over 30!
How'd that work out?
The idealism of youth. I had it big time in ‘68. Fast forward to today. What do we have? Same shit, different day.
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Technology is evolving more and more rapidly. The world 100 years from now will have wonders beyond our comprehension.
That's right! It has already evolved to the point that anyone who truly wants to become educated can do so and without having to ever sit in a chair within the halls of academia but if you want a piece of paper that SAYS you are educated (indoctrinated), THAT is an entirely different matter.
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That's right! It has already evolved to the point that anyone who truly wants to become educated can do so and without having to ever sit in a chair within the halls of academia but if you want a piece of paper that SAYS you are educated (indoctrinated), THAT is an entirely different matter.
And that could make a good chunk of college obsolete. At least the brick and mortar part of it. A perfect example of this is I got my BSN by having to sit through a classroom for 4 1/2 years. Today, two year RNs can take many courses online thereby saving themselves money
This could be one of those problems were the market and innovation would solve the problem better than any government program
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And that could make a good chunk of college obsolete. At least the brick and mortar part of it. A perfect example of this is I got my BSN by having to sit through a classroom for 4 1/2 years. Today, two year RNs can take many courses online thereby saving themselves money
This could be one of those problems were the market and innovation would solve the problem better than any government program
Brick and mortar is already slowly dying at least for undergrad studies. LOVE your tag line! Wonder where we would be today had that man been elected instead of LBJ?
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Wonder where we would be today had that man been elected instead of LBJ?
It would have been terrible. We would have missed out on the expansion of govt' agencies and regulation under Nixon. Who would want to live in a world without CAFE standards and the EPA looking out for us?
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It would have been terrible. We would have missed out on the expansion of govt' agencies and regulation under Nixon. Who would want to live in a world without CAFE standards and the EPA looking out for us?
Not to mention one without the "Great Society" programs!
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Not to mention one without the "Great Society" programs!
Well we wouldn't have had that because LBJ would have been sent back to Texas in '64 and we all know Goldwater would have killed us all because the MSM of the day said so.
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The idealism of youth. I had it big time in ‘68. Fast forward to today. What do we have? Same shit, different day.
I think everybody in their younger years are pretty idealistic and naïve and somehow you just seem to know more than people who are older than you and everything you think is superior to their way of thinking.
As you get older, you find yourself saying more “dad was rightâ€
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Technology is evolving more and more rapidly. The world 100 years from now will have wonders beyond our comprehension.
Exactly wrong. We are teetering on the ragged edge of dystopia, with every single thing straining at the seams. Our culture is eating itself, and our debt is so vast it can hardly be imagined.
You forget that Rome too, had wonders beyond comprehension in its day. And massive might. England once spanned the world...
And still they fell.
Perhaps it would do you good to look into why that happened.
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We are strong. You need to believe in us. There will always be useless and broken people. That is not our generation. The internet children are going to change the world for the better. The absolute best thing old people can do for young people is make the process of becoming educated easier and more efficient. When I am old I will fight for young people to have it better and easier than I did. It doesn't feel like y'all think that way and it's disappointing.
Ignorance is truly bliss. It is not the role of elders to coddle youth. You would do well to listen to those who are teaching you.
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Exactly wrong. We are teetering on the ragged edge of dystopia, with every single thing straining at the seams. Our culture is eating itself, and our debt is so vast it can hardly be imagined.
You forget that Rome too, had wonders beyond comprehension in its day. And massive might. England once spanned the world...
And still they fell.
Perhaps it would do you good to look into why that happened.
Don't worry, they'll get other people to invent things for them. All they have to do is just believe hard enough.
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Don't worry, they'll get other people to invent things for them. All they have to do is just believe hard enough.
YAY! Skittles for everyone!!
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The fact that we're older means most of us heard the same "we'll fix the world" crap from our fellow young people back in the 1960s. Don't trust anyone over 30!
Today, I don't trust anyone UNDER 30!.