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Title: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: 240B on February 05, 2018, 11:47:20 pm

Washington Examiner
by Kelly Cohen
Feb 5, 2018, 6:15 PM

Members of the House Intelligence Committee unanimously voted Monday night to make public a Democratic memo rebutting the controversial Republican memo released last week, which outlined alleged surveillance abuses by the Department of Justice and FBI.

The memo from ranking member Adam Schiff, D-Calif., is classified, but the committee's vote to release it sends the paper to the White House for President Trump's review.

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Last week, the GOP majority voted to keep the Democrats' memo public, but since the release of the Nunes memo, Republican lawmakers have indicated they support releasing the second memo.

Once at the White House, President Trump will have five days to decide whether to allow the memo be made public or object to its release. If Trump says no, the committee has the option of sending the matter to the House floor and voting to override the president’s decision.

(more)
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-intelligence-committee-votes-to-release-democrats-response-to-nunes-memo/article/2648171
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: 240B on February 05, 2018, 11:49:47 pm
If Trump vetoes the release, the House will never overturn it.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: libertybele on February 06, 2018, 12:00:16 am
If Trump vetoes the release, the House will never overturn it.

Trump has to release it as he released the 'GOP' memo.  Now we're going to see a series of memos from both sides of the aisle, pointing fingers and claiming untruths.  So what we have is the ultimate blame game with nobody being held responsible.  We have a corrupt DOJ, a corrupt FBI, and there's supposed to be a memo out on corrupt members of the State Department.  I'm afraid to ask what or who is waiting in the wings for us?
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: 240B on February 06, 2018, 12:10:58 am
We have a corrupt DOJ, a corrupt FBI, and there's supposed to be a memo out on corrupt members of the State Department.


I don't know about Wray or the FBI. But I do know that Sessions isn't going to anything about anything. I don't know if Sessions is corrupt or not, but I do know that he acts like a scared old coward who only wants to hide in his office.


Sessions will do nothing about any of this at the DOJ. We will have to wait and see what Wray does.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: bolobaby on February 06, 2018, 12:14:33 am
Let the Kabuki theater begin! Joy!
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Hoodat on February 06, 2018, 12:16:09 am
They should release it.  Every Republican should vote in favor, just to expose the Democrats for being the hypocrites they are.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: edpc on February 06, 2018, 12:25:41 am
Trump has to release it as he released the 'GOP' memo.


That depends.  If they poisoned it with a bunch of things that should not be released due to classification, then it is clear their motivations are purely for political theater.  However, I don’t think the committee would have voted unanimously if it did contain classified information.

The House intelligence committee voted unanimously Monday night to release a Democratic rebuttal to the GOP's memo on the Russia investigation that President Donald Trump declassified last week.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-gop-lawmakers-memo-doesnt-clear-trump-probe-052805868--politics.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews (https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-gop-lawmakers-memo-doesnt-clear-trump-probe-052805868--politics.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews)
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Hoodat on February 06, 2018, 12:32:24 am
The House intelligence committee voted unanimously Monday night to release a Democratic rebuttal to the GOP's memo on the Russia investigation that President Donald Trump declassified last week.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-gop-lawmakers-memo-doesnt-clear-trump-probe-052805868--politics.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews (https://www.yahoo.com/news/democratic-gop-lawmakers-memo-doesnt-clear-trump-probe-052805868--politics.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews)

Oh, the irony of Yahoo News!
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Oceander on February 06, 2018, 12:34:19 am
They should release it.  Every Republican should vote in favor, just to expose the Democrats for being the hypocrites they are.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: edpc on February 06, 2018, 12:35:24 am
Oh, the irony of Yahoo News!

Meaning?
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: libertybele on February 06, 2018, 12:35:55 am

I don't know about Wray or the FBI. But I do know that Sessions isn't going to anything about anything. I don't know if Sessions is corrupt or not, but I do know that he acts like a scared old coward who only wants to hide in his office.


Sessions will do nothing about any of this at the DOJ. We will have to wait and see what Wray does.

I don't know if you've taken the time to listen to this speech by Daniel Greenfield, but he does make it abundantly clear that nothing is going to be done as the DEMS are in full control.  We are in a second civil war.............

Here is the video that @Cyber Liberty posted of a Daniel Greenfield talk really explains how bad it is and why.  The Second Civil War:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNImbXnIn4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNImbXnIn4)
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Hoodat on February 06, 2018, 12:40:50 am
Quote
Oh, the irony of Yahoo News!

Meaning?

Yahoo News was the Fake News outlet cited in the Nunes report.  It was a Yahoo News story that was submitted to the FISA Court to confirm the veracity of the Steele dossier.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 01:01:34 am
Trump will release it and let the Dems spread their BS.  Then will be more from Nunes.  The boom should drop in April when the IG releases his report.  The IG report is supremely important.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: edpc on February 06, 2018, 01:19:55 am
Yahoo News was the Fake News outlet cited in the Nunes report.  It was a Yahoo News story that was submitted to the FISA Court to confirm the veracity of the Steele dossier.


OK, probably why I didn’t get the connection.  That url was from an AP story linked from Yahoo.  They have their own stories and writers for sure, but it’s mostly aggregate stuff.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 01:57:14 am

OK, probably why I didn’t get the connection.  That url was from an AP story linked from Yahoo.  They have their own stories and writers for sure, but it’s mostly aggregate stuff.

I find it odd that you were unaware of the Yahoo News angle only because you have spent a great deal of time here trying to throw monkey wrenches into Nune’s memo.  Might I suggest you watch the video at http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,302623.msg1596395.html#msg1596395 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,302623.msg1596395.html#msg1596395)

It is a good, basic synopsis of what has transpired.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 06, 2018, 02:03:42 am
Trump will release it and let the Dems spread their BS.  Then will be more from Nunes.  The boom should drop in April when the IG releases his report.  The IG report is supremely important.

Is this the same memo that was leaked to NBC?  More here:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,302550.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,302550.0.html)

@anubias
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: edpc on February 06, 2018, 02:07:18 am
I find it odd that you were unaware of the Yahoo News angle only because you have spent a great deal of time here trying to throw monkey wrenches into Nune’s memo.  Might I suggest you watch the video at http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,302623.msg1596395.html#msg1596395 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,302623.msg1596395.html#msg1596395)

It is a good, basic synopsis of what has transpired.


I'm very aware of Isikoff and the FISA application connection.  The original comment to which I responded had no context.  Since I knew the story linked to be from AP and not directly from Yahoo, I didn't initially understand the meaning.

Might I suggest you don't insert yourself into a conversation you know nothing about and end up showing your ass?  After all, some of us just ate.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 02:12:31 am
Is this the same memo that was leaked to NBC?  More here:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,302550.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,302550.0.html)

@anubias

Supposedly.  We’ll find out for sure if it’s the same when it is finally released.  The one to NBC was easily debunked, but of course most of the media ran with it as gospel today.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 06, 2018, 02:15:14 am
Supposedly.  We’ll find out for sure if it’s the same when it is finally released.  The one to NBC was easily debunked, but of course most of the media ran with it as gospel today.

Democrats are really starting to piss me off!   :laugh:

Liars and thieves, all of them.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 02:17:14 am
Democrats are really starting to piss me off!   :laugh:

Liars and thieves, all of them.

The media is even worse.  They’re supposed to be there to keep them honest, but they are even more dishonest than the stinking Democrats!
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Bigun on February 06, 2018, 02:19:19 am
Democrats are really starting to piss me off!   :laugh:

Liars and thieves, all of them.

@Right_in_Virginia

Told ya! 
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 06, 2018, 02:23:01 am
@Right_in_Virginia

Told ya!

I always knew ... now there is concrete proof of the depth of their depravity and anti-Americanism.  The democrats truly are our fifth column.

@Bigun
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: RetBobbyMI on February 06, 2018, 02:47:46 am

I don't know about Wray or the FBI. But I do know that Sessions isn't going to anything about anything. I don't know if Sessions is corrupt or not, but I do know that he acts like a scared old coward who only wants to hide in his office.


Sessions will do nothing about any of this at the DOJ. We will have to wait and see what Wray does.
I believe under the law for special counsel, that the AG must conduct a preliminary investigation when a GS 15 or above, including political appointees AND congressional members have accusations against them, and within 30 must decide if a special counsel is required.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 03:02:40 am
I believe under the law for special counsel, that the AG must conduct a preliminary investigation when a GS 15 or above, including political appointees AND congressional members have accusations against them, and within 30 must decide if a special counsel is required.

AG or assistant AG.  That’s why the Dems are so afraid of us getting rid of Rosenstein.  When he’s gone, Gowdy or someone like Gowdy, will step in.  Rosenstein is the key.  He MUST go, I think.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: Emjay on February 06, 2018, 03:11:06 am
Oh, the irony of Yahoo News!

Yeah, I headed over there to see their themes for the day.  Here they are:

Did Melania Just Swat Trump's Hand Again? Twitter Sure Thinks So.

About that memo, who do you believe: Nunes, or your own eyes?

Trump calls Dems who didn't clap during State of the Union 'treasonous' and 'un-American'
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: edpc on February 06, 2018, 03:18:36 am
AG or assistant AG.  That’s why the Dems are so afraid of us getting rid of Rosenstein.  When he’s gone, Gowdy or someone like Gowdy, will step in.  Rosenstein is the key.  He MUST go, I think.


Trump can actually fire Muller on his own. He would probably be happy to get rid of Rosenstein and Sessions, as well.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/can-trump-fire-special-counsel-robert-mueller-239500 (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/can-trump-fire-special-counsel-robert-mueller-239500)

The reason he hasn't is likely because of the admin desire for immigration reform and an actual budget passing through Congress.  Enough of the Old Guard establishment members are probably aware of this as well, which is why they are slow walking everything.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 03:28:16 am

Trump can actually fire Muller on his own. He would probably be happy to get rid of Rosenstein and Sessions, as well.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/can-trump-fire-special-counsel-robert-mueller-239500 (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/can-trump-fire-special-counsel-robert-mueller-239500)

The reason he hasn't is likely because of the admin desire for immigration reform and an actual budget passing through Congress.  Enough of the Old Guard establishment members are probably aware of this as well, which is why they are slow walking everything.

The rats have threatened him with Obstruction of Justice if he does.
The Senate Republicans have threatened to not fill the seat if he fires Sessions.
If Trump does either, he becomes the story again, not them.

I don’t believe for a second that it has a thing to do with immigration.  The Dem’s aren’t going to pass an immigration bill regardless of what Trump does.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: edpc on February 06, 2018, 03:32:02 am
The rats have threatened him with Obstruction of Justice if he does.
The Senate Republicans have threatened to not fill the seat if he fires Sessions.
If Trump does either, he becomes the story again, not them.

I don’t believe for a second that it has a thing to do with immigration.  The Dem’s aren’t going to pass an immigration bill regardless of what Trump does.


Me either, but the big items on his agenda were border security, taxes, and Obamacare.  The budget has become a necessity for a lot of reasons.  Without the 60 in the Senate, he won't get cooperation.  McConnell won't go nuclear.

The article I linked discusses how Trump can fire Muller, then Congress could conceivably pass legislation to reappoint him. That would be comical.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: WingNot on February 06, 2018, 03:33:33 am
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Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 03:39:55 am
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I ❤️ Branco!
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: WingNot on February 06, 2018, 03:40:50 am
I ❤️ Branco!

Yep!   :beer:
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: RetBobbyMI on February 06, 2018, 03:43:19 am
AG or assistant AG.  That’s why the Dems are so afraid of us getting rid of Rosenstein.  When he’s gone, Gowdy or someone like Gowdy, will step in.  Rosenstein is the key.  He MUST go, I think.
AG, unless the AG recuses under the specified reasons.
Title: Re: House Intelligence Committee votes to release Democrats' response to Nunes memo
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 04:07:51 am
AG, unless the AG recuses under the specified reasons.

Is “asleep” a specified reason?