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Title: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is just t
Post by: 240B on February 03, 2018, 12:22:58 am
100% Fed Up
Feb 2, 2018

House Intel Chair Devin Nunes discussed the memo released today with Brett Bader.  Nunes explained that he has an obligation to the American people when there is FISA abuse. He discussed details in the memo then dropped a bombshell bit of news…the State Department is the next to be exposed: “This is just the first memo. There will be another one dealing specifically with the State Department’s role in all of this.”

This just keeps getting better and better!

(more)
https://100percentfedup.com/just-intel-chair-devin-nunes-drops-bombshell-whos-next-investigation-just-first-memo-video/
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: DB on February 03, 2018, 12:36:17 am
I think there was a time when Democrats would have been very upset at these sort of government abuses. But now only the results matter, not the means to get them. Extremely short sighted which leads to corruption of government at all levels and the loss of our basic freedoms. It will be interesting to see if we've reached critical mass on this front too, where there's no going back.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: mystery-ak on February 03, 2018, 12:46:28 am
Nunes: House panel looking at State Dept. involvement in Russia probe

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372109-nunes-s (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372109-nunes-s)
ays-house-intel-panel-looking-at-state-dept-involvement-in-russia-probe


I hope this involves that Maria Harf hired by Fox News..praying she is unvolved somehow..lol
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 03, 2018, 12:48:26 am
I think there was a time when Democrats would have been very upset at these sort of government abuses. But now only the results matter, not the means to get them. Extremely short sighted which leads to corruption of government at all levels and the loss of our basic freedoms. It will be interesting to see if we've reached critical mass on this front too, where there's no going back.

I have been of the opinion for a while now that the Rubicon was crossed a good while ago.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: 240B on February 03, 2018, 12:52:33 am
I have been of the opinion for a while now that the Rubicon was crossed a good while ago.


We can only hope that Trump will cross it back over. But, he will never do that as long as he clings to Sessions.
When Sessions goes, only then will I believe that Trump is actually serious about all this.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 03, 2018, 01:21:39 am

We can only hope that Trump will cross it back over. But, he will never do that as long as he clings to Sessions.
When Sessions goes, only then will I believe that Trump is actually serious about all this.

Well, the historical reason for using the Rubicon reference - is because once across - no one can go back - even if they wanted to.

The very nature of the construct and compact that once existed is forever undone.

The fundamental foundations of the nation itself have been dug up and discarded by more than half the population.  Simple math - you cannot undo what has been done to upset the covenant. 

Rome found that out.

We're next.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 03, 2018, 01:28:05 am
Nunes interview with Bret Baier

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s-fsbfaKVY#)
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Fantom on February 03, 2018, 02:10:17 am
I think there was a time when Democrats would have been very upset at these sort of government abuses. But now only the results matter, not the means to get them. Extremely short sighted which leads to corruption of government at all levels and the loss of our basic freedoms. It will be interesting to see if we've reached critical mass on this front too, where there's no going back.

With a few exceptions(Zell Miller, Joe Leiberman, even Patric Moynihan), corruption and naked power have been the democrat model since Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall. Pretty much since the beginning.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: austingirl on February 03, 2018, 03:24:50 am
Nunes: House panel looking at State Dept. involvement in Russia probe

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372109-nunes-s (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/372109-nunes-s)
ays-house-intel-panel-looking-at-state-dept-involvement-in-russia-probe


I hope this involves that Maria Harf hired by Fox News..praying she is unvolved somehow..lol

@mystery-ak

Gawd, I can't stand that airhead. She is a moron, smiles and squirms like a kid when introduced on Fox, and then talks over everybody else. She, of the "get ISIS jobs" and we'll solve terrorism, fame. Yuck!
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: bilo on February 03, 2018, 03:55:51 am

We can only hope that Trump will cross it back over. But, he will never do that as long as he clings to Sessions.
When Sessions goes, only then will I believe that Trump is actually serious about all this.

I think the problem is the Senate. The Pubs may not stand together with the President and if Sessions goes the next in line is Rubenstein until a new AG is confirmed.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: bilo on February 03, 2018, 03:57:02 am
Well, the historical reason for using the Rubicon reference - is because once across - no one can go back - even if they wanted to.

The very nature of the construct and compact that once existed is forever undone.

The fundamental foundations of the nation itself have been dug up and discarded by more than half the population.  Simple math - you cannot undo what has been done to upset the covenant. 

Rome found that out.

We're next.

So lets find a way to peacefully separate.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: 240B on February 03, 2018, 04:23:39 am
Simple math - you cannot undo what has been done to upset the covenant. 
@INVAR

Haven't you heard? Math is racist now. Because most Blacks can't do it, therefore it is racist and White Supremacy (don't tell this to any Asian, you will only confuse them). Yoga is racist and is White Supremacy (again, don't tell the Asians). The flag, and the national anthem are racist. I'm counting down until the Left claims that reading is racist.

I disagree that all of this stupid nonsense cannot be undone. For as much noise as they make, anyone would think that Liberals represent 50% of the population. I don't think that is really true.

My opinion is that Liberal/Progressive/Communist all of that crap, is between 15% to 20% of the population. It is just that like in playing the game Risk, they happen to control very influential parts of the nation, entertainment, education, and news (and all of these are slipping away from them). But for that, they would be a side note in America. I do think a reversal is possible. And if not now, when?
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 03, 2018, 04:40:00 am
So lets find a way to peacefully separate.

Not gonna happen.

At no time when a governing body thinks it owns and has an eternal right to rule sovereign peoples and properties, is a peaceable separation permitted.

And you will be told by many that your question was answered in 1865 - and they also will tell you the answer is NO - we may not peacefully separate.

Especially not if we have what they think belongs to them in perpetuity.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: edpc on February 03, 2018, 04:59:34 am
I think the problem is the Senate. The Pubs may not stand together with the President and if Sessions goes the next in line is Rubenstein until a new AG is confirmed.


The Senate already warned Trump last summer they wouldn't hold hearings on a 2nd AG if Sessions was fired.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/27/senate-republicans-warn-trump-wont-confirm-another-ag-year-sessions-fired/
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 03, 2018, 04:59:53 am
I disagree that all of this stupid nonsense cannot be undone.

I cannot find an example where institutions as corrupted and entrenched as ours have become, can be undone without razing the previous corruption and starting over from scratch.

For as much noise as they make, anyone would think that Liberals represent 50% of the population. I don't think that is really true.

Well, if the Popular Vote from urban Democrat cesspools from just the last election is not enough to convince you - there is nothing I can offer to persuade you differently.  Trump lost the popular vote against HILLARY CLINTON - the MOST widely recognized corrupt politician of our time.  When I say more than half the population wants Socialism - they already live it and want more of it.

Numbers do not lie - and when you factor in the illegals over the past 30 years that overwhelmingly vote Democrat and the rush to get them to be able to vote - simple math will tell you our time is rapidly running out before 50 years of Socialist indoctrination and 30 years of open borders to a welfare state from Socialist backwards 3rd world nations does not conclude our ruination.

But for that, they would be a side note in America. I do think a reversal is possible. And if not now, when?

Well unless Conservative White, Asian, Black and Christian Americans start breeding like rabbits and have a dozen or more kids per family, and the Christian Church returns as the steward of the culture - I do not see a reversal possible.   Then add the fact that the replacement levels of the civilization you and I grew up in - are far below what is minimally required to sustain us another generation.  Again, them's numbers. The illegals and foreign squatters who have absolutely zero intention of becoming Americans who reside here on our dime and whom are still being imported here from the Middle East and Mexico/South America - are having 12 kids per family to each one of ours. The Muslims even outbreeding the South of the border immigrants.

Then, at the same time - you have 50 years of liberal/Socialist indoctrination from public schools and entertainment to unwind from the minds of a people who simply want sex, beer and sports on tap, and who think Government is there to be the Provider - of sustenance, fairness  and equality.

Constitutional liberty cannot compete with that, or sustain a people without a biblical moral rudder.  Our form of rights and justice cannot endure or exist without that.

And I do not see much interest in any of that at all.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: anubias on February 03, 2018, 05:08:10 am

The Senate already warned Trump last summer they wouldn't hold hearings on a 2nd AG if Sessions was fired.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/27/senate-republicans-warn-trump-wont-confirm-another-ag-year-sessions-fired/

I remember that, but attitudes may have changed now.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: edpc on February 03, 2018, 05:17:48 am
I remember that, but attitudes may have changed now.


Hard to say because the Senate is an elitist bunch because they're 1 of 100.  They get snooty about their 'advice and consent' role.  Some of them were looking down their noses at the memo release.  The House has 435 members of the hoi polloi, in their view.  The usual suspects like Flake and Graham weighed in.  Criticism from Thune surprised me a little.  I don't think they'd want the axe to fall without the opportunity to weigh in first.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 03, 2018, 05:33:28 am
This is absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 03, 2018, 05:53:22 am
This is absolutely beautiful.

You truly belong with us here among the clouds.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: bilo on February 03, 2018, 06:04:19 pm
Not gonna happen.

At no time when a governing body thinks it owns and has an eternal right to rule sovereign peoples and properties, is a peaceable separation permitted.

And you will be told by many that your question was answered in 1865 - and they also will tell you the answer is NO - we may not peacefully separate.

Especially not if we have what they think belongs to them in perpetuity.

I do appreciate a thoughtful response, but there is a movement in CA. that seems to be creeping along for the state to declare itself a separate nation and to seek recognition by the UN.

As far as 1865 answering the question I don't believe it applies. The civil war ended slavery and the union was preserved, but that doesn't mean it will be preserved forever. Borders change all the time and nations divide and/or are assimilated by other nations all the time.

I think your point about the govt looking at us as it's property is really the key issue as well as those useful idiots who support this notion. It really is the reason a serious discussion about dividing the nation into two countries is needed. Those fools who think an all powerful govt is such a good thing don't recognize the exceptionalism of the USA. Our country was founded on the principal belief that our rights are endowed to us by our creator and that govt only exists to protect those rights, not to determine what are rights are.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: DB on February 03, 2018, 07:04:50 pm
I do appreciate a thoughtful response, but there is a movement in CA. that seems to be creeping along for the state to declare itself a separate nation and to seek recognition by the UN.

As far as 1865 answering the question I don't believe it applies. The civil war ended slavery and the union was preserved, but that doesn't mean it will be preserved forever. Borders change all the time and nations divide and/or are assimilated by other nations all the time.

I think your point about the govt looking at us as it's property is really the key issue as well as those useful idiots who support this notion. It really is the reason a serious discussion about dividing the nation into two countries is needed. Those fools who think an all powerful govt is such a good thing don't recognize the exceptionalism of the USA. Our country was founded on the principal belief that our rights are endowed to us by our creator and that govt only exists to protect those rights, not to determine what are rights are.

The current president says he thinks American exceptionalism is insulting to others and completely misses the point of what it means. The "exceptionalism" is liberty like no other nation in history has offered. Free speech, the right to own and use arms, where the people are supreme, etc. With that liberty came great things. And now we're ripping those roots out of our country at an ever increasing rate.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 03, 2018, 07:28:39 pm
I do appreciate a thoughtful response, but there is a movement in CA. that seems to be creeping along for the state to declare itself a separate nation and to seek recognition by the UN.

Everything I had read indicated they were working to become a separate STATE ala West Virginia - NOT become a separate nation.

But, as a nation we have become balkanized to the point of flying apart into thirty different provinces and nation states that would be almost in a state of perpetual war with one another... just like Europe was.

As far as 1865 answering the question I don't believe it applies. The civil war ended slavery and the union was preserved, but that doesn't mean it will be preserved forever.

Our 'betters' who have lectured us about stamping down the notion because the question of whether or not we can separate from the union - peaceably or by force - has been settled.  And their answer is 'NO'.

Personally, I think that answer should be tested, because it has become self-evident that almost half of the population can no longer peaceably co-exist with the other half.  Sadly, the idea of a united nation standing on a common foundation of core principles is over.  I see and read it every single day.  Even here on this board by a Leftist pretending to be a Conservative.

I think your point about the govt looking at us as it's property is really the key issue as well as those useful idiots who support this notion.

Again, you are talking about half the population if not moreso - the same numbers that also think our rights come from government grant and can be 'reasonably regulated' or abolished for the good of safety and security.

It really is the reason a serious discussion about dividing the nation into two countries is needed.

Might as well talk about civil war openly then, because that is exactly how such discussion is viewed and is exactly the course that will follow.  Because you are dealing with a people and a government who see that what you have as THEIRS, because your privilege and skin color or your status attained what you have unfairly.  Not to mention government views all money and wealth as belonging to itself.   It will be said after a separation that it is NOT FAIR that maybe your state has deepwater ports and theirs is landlocked; or that your state can grow crops and their state can only grow traffic jams and government welfare.  Envy, jealousy and greed are the motivating factors of human nature - regardless if they want to pretend that government can hold those in check.

Those fools who think an all powerful govt is such a good thing don't recognize the exceptionalism of the USA. Our country was founded on the principal belief that our rights are endowed to us by our creator and that govt only exists to protect those rights, not to determine what are rights are.

And again, more than half the population no longer believes in or thinks that.  In fact, they consider those things to be evil and that government is the tool to grant rights and arbitrate equality and fairness. 

Coexisting in a nation with that mindset will only result in liberties being surrendered to appease, or warfare to protect them from regulation and abolition.

Not a pretty picture, but an inevitability that  our Founders, history and human nature warned us about.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Sanguine on February 03, 2018, 07:38:09 pm

The Senate already warned Trump last summer they wouldn't hold hearings on a 2nd AG if Sessions was fired.

https://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/27/senate-republicans-warn-trump-wont-confirm-another-ag-year-sessions-fired/

This have changed a bit since then.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Emjay on February 03, 2018, 07:45:24 pm
This have changed a bit since then.

Big time.  The Senate was sure Trump would falter, fail, and sink dramatically in popularity.

What happened is the Senate faltered, failed and sunk dramatically in popularity.

They may not be so sanguine now.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: edpc on February 03, 2018, 08:16:47 pm
This have changed a bit since then.

Not really.  This story is from just a few weeks ago.


Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores said in an email that the possibility of Sessions' losing his job is a "non story" that has been "ginned up by the media."

But even if he's not fully pleased with Sessions, Trump may be stuck with him.

On a political level, it's not clear whether any possible replacement could win Senate confirmation at a time when two Republican defectors would be enough to scuttle a nomination.

And there's also the tricky legal question of whether firing Sessions could be interpreted as an attempt to obstruct justice in the Mueller probe, especially after The New York Times reported that a Sessions aide tried to dig up dirt on former FBI Director James Comey when he testified that his agency was examining possible Trump campaign ties to Russia.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/why-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-survives-trump-s-wrath-n835251 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/why-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-survives-trump-s-wrath-n835251)





Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 03, 2018, 08:40:02 pm
Not really.  This story is from just a few weeks ago.


Justice Department spokeswoman Sarah Isgur Flores said in an email that the possibility of Sessions' losing his job is a "non story" that has been "ginned up by the media."

But even if he's not fully pleased with Sessions, Trump may be stuck with him.

On a political level, it's not clear whether any possible replacement could win Senate confirmation at a time when two Republican defectors would be enough to scuttle a nomination.

And there's also the tricky legal question of whether firing Sessions could be interpreted as an attempt to obstruct justice in the Mueller probe, especially after The New York Times reported that a Sessions aide tried to dig up dirt on former FBI Director James Comey when he testified that his agency was examining possible Trump campaign ties to Russia.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/why-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-survives-trump-s-wrath-n835251 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/why-attorney-general-jeff-sessions-survives-trump-s-wrath-n835251)

I think it totally depends on why Sessions would be shown the door.  If it's because of this Russia Russia Russia thing, then yeah, the Senate is going to stall on it while Rosenstein (of all people) would probably be the boss.  I can imagine a half dozen Pubbies who would defect, it wouldn't be close.  But if Sessions steps on himself for some other reason that the Senate would agree sucks, then they're not likely to obstruct.  Sessions was a Senator, he's not likely to do that because he knows where the hot buttons are.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: bilo on February 03, 2018, 10:02:24 pm
Everything I had read indicated they were working to become a separate STATE ala West Virginia - NOT become a separate nation.

But, as a nation we have become balkanized to the point of flying apart into thirty different provinces and nation states that would be almost in a state of perpetual war with one another... just like Europe was.

Our 'betters' who have lectured us about stamping down the notion because the question of whether or not we can separate from the union - peaceably or by force - has been settled.  And their answer is 'NO'.

Personally, I think that answer should be tested, because it has become self-evident that almost half of the population can no longer peaceably co-exist with the other half.  Sadly, the idea of a united nation standing on a common foundation of core principles is over.  I see and read it every single day.  Even here on this board by a Leftist pretending to be a Conservative.

Again, you are talking about half the population if not moreso - the same numbers that also think our rights come from government grant and can be 'reasonably regulated' or abolished for the good of safety and security.

Might as well talk about civil war openly then, because that is exactly how such discussion is viewed and is exactly the course that will follow.  Because you are dealing with a people and a government who see that what you have as THEIRS, because your privilege and skin color or your status attained what you have unfairly.  Not to mention government views all money and wealth as belonging to itself.   It will be said after a separation that it is NOT FAIR that maybe your state has deepwater ports and theirs is landlocked; or that your state can grow crops and their state can only grow traffic jams and government welfare.  Envy, jealousy and greed are the motivating factors of human nature - regardless if they want to pretend that government can hold those in check.

And again, more than half the population no longer believes in or thinks that.  In fact, they consider those things to be evil and that government is the tool to grant rights and arbitrate equality and fairness. 

Coexisting in a nation with that mindset will only result in liberties being surrendered to appease, or warfare to protect them from regulation and abolition.

Not a pretty picture, but an inevitability that  our Founders, history and human nature warned us about.

We are pretty much in agreement except I do believe peacefully going our separate ways is possible.

The leftists pretty much hate us and the majority of them would be happy to see us go. As a conservative I would be very happy to see them leave.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 03, 2018, 10:16:05 pm
We are pretty much in agreement except I do believe peacefully going our separate ways is possible.

The leftists pretty much hate us and the majority of them would be happy to see us go. As a conservative I would be very happy to see them leave.

Yes.  But understand that peacefully going our separate ways in not possible with an ideology and a mob mindset that chants 'No Justice, No Peace!'.

And 'Justice' is Just-Us Entitled To Your Shit.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: bilo on February 04, 2018, 03:16:26 pm
Yes. But understand that peacefully going our separate ways in not possible with an ideology and a mob mindset that chants 'No Justice, No Peace!'.

And 'Justice' is Just-Us Entitled To Your Shit.

These are the useful idiots. If their masters can be convinced life will be better for them if we are gone they will indoctrinate their useful idiots that they will be better off without us.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: skeeter on February 04, 2018, 03:19:38 pm
We are pretty much in agreement except I do believe peacefully going our separate ways is possible.

The leftists pretty much hate us and the majority of them would be happy to see us go. As a conservative I would be very happy to see them leave.

Wish that were true but its not. Leftists are like muslim radicals - they live to dominate others.

In other words they will follow you until you submit.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 04, 2018, 03:51:17 pm
These are the useful idiots. If their masters can be convinced life will be better for them if we are gone they will indoctrinate their useful idiots that they will be better off without us.

I don't think they can do that.  Envy is the most potent arrow in their quiver, so the masters of the fools would never try to eliminate us because they need somebody to whip up the hate against.  Think:  Emmanuel Goldstein.  Hitler tried, and in the process took away his best leverage with the non-Jewish German people.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Sanguine on February 04, 2018, 04:01:55 pm
These are the useful idiots. If their masters can be convinced life will be better for them if we are gone they will indoctrinate their useful idiots that they will be better off without us.

Nope - we pay the bills (those that are actually being paid, that is).  I can't see them letting us go.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 04, 2018, 04:54:37 pm
Nope - we pay the bills (those that are actually being paid, that is).  I can't see them letting us go.

Are you not listening to what they themselves are saying?

Everything from 'ending white privilege' to 'payback for slavery' to 'Republicans/Conservatives are a danger to the planet'???????

That kind of demonization alone leads to movements that lead to attempted government pogroms and genocides.

Yeah, it might be all talk and agitprop for now, but history teaches that once that seed is planted, it eventually gets acted upon.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Sanguine on February 04, 2018, 06:07:58 pm
Are you not listening to what they themselves are saying?

Everything from 'ending white privilege' to 'payback for slavery' to 'Republicans/Conservatives are a danger to the planet'???????

That kind of demonization alone leads to movements that lead to attempted government pogroms and genocides.

Yeah, it might be all talk and agitprop for now, but history teaches that once that seed is planted, it eventually gets acted upon.

Yes, and?  As long as the peasants were providing enough grain, Stalin pretty much let them be.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: bilo on February 04, 2018, 06:36:24 pm
Wish that were true but its not. Leftists are like muslim radicals - they live to dominate others.

In other words they will follow you until you submit.

I don't think this is true. They make a big stink when others (govt) do the heavy lifting. If the "backward" Bible thumping, blue collar, fly over states want out of the union the left will ultimately agree. They view themselves as morally superior, being their own gods and believing in collectivism over individual liberty. They will be happy to let us go. It's the individuals in the blue states who want to leave that will have the hardest time.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: bilo on February 04, 2018, 06:41:11 pm
Nope - we pay the bills (those that are actually being paid, that is).  I can't see them letting us go.

Why keep us around if we keep them from achieving their socialist utopia?

If the left has the northeast and west coast what do they care about the rest of the country.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: bilo on February 04, 2018, 06:46:08 pm
Are you not listening to what they themselves are saying?

Everything from 'ending white privilege' to 'payback for slavery' to 'Republicans/Conservatives are a danger to the planet'???????

That kind of demonization alone leads to movements that lead to attempted government pogroms and genocides.

Yeah, it might be all talk and agitprop for now, but history teaches that once that seed is planted, it eventually gets acted upon.

The left does not serve in our military in any great numbers. Also, the founders of this country were brilliant in their understanding that a well armed populace is a great firewall to the tyranny of govt. IOW, a majority of our military will never go along with citizens being rounded up and put in pogroms and also the very people the left would want rounded up will defend themselves. In the end it's much easier to let us go, or for us to let them go.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: jpsb on February 04, 2018, 06:55:07 pm
(http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/tablet/public/2015/02/17/marie-harf.png)

Wanta bet?

She is not very bright.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 04, 2018, 07:06:30 pm
Yes, and?  As long as the peasants were providing enough grain, Stalin pretty much let them be.

Well, except for confiscating so much of the grain it caused a famine, yeah. :whistle:
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 04, 2018, 07:08:46 pm
(http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/tablet/public/2015/02/17/marie-harf.png)

Wanta bet?

She is not very bright.

I agree she's not bright, but that pic would make a lot more sense if I knew what it was in response to.  :shrug:
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Sanguine on February 04, 2018, 07:24:22 pm
Well, except for confiscating so much of the grain it caused a famine, yeah. :whistle:

Yes, but that wasn't Russian peasants.  And, Stalin's idea of "enough" was....different. 
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 04, 2018, 07:41:18 pm
Yes, but that wasn't Russian peasants.  And, Stalin's idea of "enough" was....different.

Truedat.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 04, 2018, 07:52:50 pm
Yes, and?  As long as the peasants were providing enough grain, Stalin pretty much let them be.

Might want to go and look up Stalin's little experiment in the Ukraine in 1921-23.  That was the bread basket of the Soviet Union mind you.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Sanguine on February 04, 2018, 07:59:45 pm
Might want to go and look up Stalin's little experiment in the Ukraine in 1921-23.  That was the bread basket of the Soviet Union mind you.

Um, the Ukrainians weren't Russian and didn't want to be. 
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 04, 2018, 08:17:52 pm
Um, the Ukrainians weren't Russian and didn't want to be.

I was never very clear on who was in the Soviet Empire before WW2.  :shrug:

The Uke's still don't want to be Russian, I'm sure.  That Crimea thing did not go down well....
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 04, 2018, 08:40:42 pm

We can only hope that Trump will cross it back over. But, he will never do that as long as he clings to Sessions.
When Sessions goes, only then will I believe that Trump is actually serious about all this.

Sessions has active investigations into the Clinton e-mail scandal, the Uranium One scandal and one involving the Clinton Foundation originating out of Arkansas.

Stealth and agility are required when taking on the Deep State, Clinton Crime Mob and the propaganda Media.   Because Sessions' crew aren't leaking like a sieve doesn't mean there is nothing of great import going on.    Let's wait on the DoJ Inspector General report.   IG Horowitz is likely finding entrenched Obama-regime corruption beyond anyone's imagination.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 04, 2018, 08:58:06 pm
Sessions has active investigations into the Clinton e-mail scandal, the Uranium One scandal and one involving the Clinton Foundation originating out of Arkansas.

Stealth and agility are required when taking on the Deep State, Clinton Crime Mob and the propaganda Media.   Because Sessions' crew aren't leaking like a sieve doesn't mean there is nothing of great import going on.    Let's wait on the DoJ Inspector General report.   IG Horowitz is likely finding entrenched Obama-regime corruption beyond anyone's imagination.

That's about what I think of Sessions right now too (Except I don't like the Asset Forfeiture bit AT ALL, or the Pot thing).  The IG is doing his job, and it's a silent running thing right now.  It has to be, because if Horowitz goes with all flags flying the Dems will cut him to ribbons in the lapdog press.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: DB on February 04, 2018, 09:25:13 pm
Sessions has active investigations into the Clinton e-mail scandal, the Uranium One scandal and one involving the Clinton Foundation originating out of Arkansas.

Stealth and agility are required when taking on the Deep State, Clinton Crime Mob and the propaganda Media.   Because Sessions' crew aren't leaking like a sieve doesn't mean there is nothing of great import going on.    Let's wait on the DoJ Inspector General report.   IG Horowitz is likely finding entrenched Obama-regime corruption beyond anyone's imagination.

Well I initially hoped that was the case but that hope is running pretty thin after a year.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 04, 2018, 11:22:07 pm
Well I initially hoped that was the case but that hope is running pretty thin after a year.

It took a long time to take down the Mafia families.

That's what we're dealing with here.  Times 10, because the top tier our federal LEO institutions have been thoroughly infiltrated and corrupted by the Jug Eared Marxist and his Iranian mistress and assorted Alinsky flying monkeys.

Consider this:  You better have THE tightest case on Earth to have a typical AFSCME/ghetto DC jury convict a Clinton. Or any other Democrat.  Won't happen.   

If anyone is going to jail, it's going to happen in the DoJ Little Rock jury or some other venue.  They are playing their cards close to the vest.   The media and Deep State PTB are in red alert and high dudgeon.  Let them simmer, let them roast.  Frogs in the proverbial slow heat boil.  Make them wait.

They are dirty as hell.  The American people are starting to get it. I believe that.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Bigun on February 04, 2018, 11:59:26 pm
It took a long time to take down the Mafia families.

That's what we're dealing with here.  Times 10, because the top tier our federal LEO institutions have been thoroughly infiltrated and corrupted by the Jug Eared Marxist and his Iranian mistress and assorted Alinsky flying monkeys.

Consider this:  You better have THE tightest case on Earth to have a typical AFSCME/ghetto DC jury convict a Clinton. Or any other Democrat.  Won't happen.   

If anyone is going to jail, it's going to happen in the DoJ Little Rock jury or some other venue.  They are playing their cards close to the vest.   The media and Deep State PTB are in red alert and high dudgeon.  Let them simmer, let them roast.  Frogs in the proverbial slow heat boil.  Make them wait.

They are dirty as hell.  The American people are starting to get it. I believe that.

Spot on @ArneFufkin!   :amen:
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: ArneFufkin on February 05, 2018, 12:28:10 am
BigUn, I cannot tell you how delighted I am to tell you that you were right, and I was wrong, about Trump.

Cheers!
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Bigun on February 05, 2018, 12:36:09 am
BigUn, I cannot tell you how delighted I am to tell you that you were right, and I was wrong, about Trump.

Cheers!

@ArneFufkin

I was just as wrong as you were my friend.  I have yet to vote for Trump ever.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: anubias on February 05, 2018, 01:24:50 am
@ArneFufkin

I was just as wrong as you were my friend.  I have yet to vote for Trump ever.

I did vote for him because of what I knew what the Hildabeast would do to this country, but I wasn’t thrilled about it.  I was wrong as well.

Although, I was over-the-top thrilled the night of Nov 8.  LOL
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Bigun on February 05, 2018, 01:27:45 am
I did vote for him because of what I knew what the Hildabeast would do to this country, but I wasn’t thrilled about it.  I was wrong as well.

Although, I was over-the-top thrilled the night of Nov 8.  LOL

Yeah!  I have to admit to a thrill running up my leg that night as well.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: corbe on February 05, 2018, 01:29:51 am
   Only an idiot would have thought Trump DID NOT have all of the Texas Electoral Votes.
   I didn't write in Ted Cruz only because it wouldn't have counted.

(http://hill-kleerup.org/blog/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/constitution-party.jpg)
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: anubias on February 05, 2018, 02:35:32 am
   Only an idiot would have thought Trump DID NOT have all of the Texas Electoral Votes.
   I didn't write in Ted Cruz only because it wouldn't have counted.

(http://hill-kleerup.org/blog/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/constitution-party.jpg)

This “idiot” was worried that too many would do it, plus there were quite a few women I know that hated Trump so badly they voted for Hillary and were laughing about it as if it was a cool and cutesy thing to do.  I didn’t run across many folks here claiming they were going to or actually did vote for Trump in early voting.  For all I know, they were all lying, but it did scare me a bit.  So, yes.  I am an idiot.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: corbe on February 05, 2018, 02:43:09 am
   Never a doubt in my mind @anubias, TEXAS was Trump Country, especially after we learned Cruz's Dad was in on the JFK assassination.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: anubias on February 05, 2018, 02:56:37 am
   Never a doubt in my mind @anubias, TEXAS was Trump Country, especially after we learned Cruz's Dad was in on the JFK assassination.

 :silly:   :beer:
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 05, 2018, 03:01:35 am
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Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: mountaineer on February 06, 2018, 12:22:42 am
 Did someone say "State Department"?
Quote
Jordan Schachtel‏Verified account @JordanSchachtel

Fmr StateDept official Jonathan Winer (who reportedly was a middle man for Trump-Russia dossier) went to an intel conf in April (https://www.offshorealert.com/conference/2017/miami/get-speaker.aspx?id=55823). Glenn Simpson & T Sears of FusionGPS also attended. So did 4 members of Baker Hostetler, firm that hired Fusion for Hillary&DNC
6:16 PM - 5 Feb 2018

Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Sanguine on February 06, 2018, 12:42:37 am
Bm

I hope that's an abbreviation for "bookmark".    :laugh:
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 12:43:40 am
I hope that's an abbreviation for "bookmark".    :laugh:

It was!   :silly:
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Bigun on February 06, 2018, 12:46:26 am
Did someone say "State Department"?

They were/are ALL in on it and, I believe,  it was all being orchestrated right out of the WH!
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: DB on February 06, 2018, 12:59:39 am
With the hits Hillary was taking during the election they couldn't resist using the tools of power at their disposal for an "insurance policy" against Trump. If there's going to be a return to a lawful government these people are going to have to pay a heavy price for their corruption or it will continue.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Bigun on February 06, 2018, 01:02:36 am
With the hits Hillary was taking during the election they couldn't resist using the tools of power at their disposal for an "insurance policy" against Trump. If there's going to be a return to a lawful government these people are going to have to pay a heavy price for their corruption or it will continue.

If they don't this country truly has become nothing more than they world's largest banana republic.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: libertybele on February 06, 2018, 01:15:27 am
If they don't this country truly has become nothing more than they world's largest banana republic.

 :amen:   :patriot:
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 01:25:30 am
If they don't this country truly has become nothing more than they world's largest banana republic.

Yep.  It will no longer be hyperbole.  We will have truly lost this country.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: INVAR on February 06, 2018, 01:50:41 am
With the hits Hillary was taking during the election they couldn't resist using the tools of power at their disposal for an "insurance policy" against Trump. If there's going to be a return to a lawful government these people are going to have to pay a heavy price for their corruption or it will continue.

Doubtful that is going to happen. 

If anything we are learning just how institutional this weaponizing of the federal beast into a political machine to go after anyone it seeks to destroy, has become.

I just do not see people willing to risk the financial ruin and/or ocean of blood that dislodging the Deep State Oligarchy in DC and it's Fascistic incestuous relationships with big business and gravy train money will require.

It's now endemic to how the entirety of DC operates.  Has been for some time, in full view of We The People and Congress - oftentimes to cheers. 

Ends justify the means.  Principles do not mean jack shit - only money and making ends meet matters to most.

That DC openly shows their contempt for We The People as frequently as they now do, is because they know and understand that there is no real risk to them, no real risk to their stolen fortunes and no real risk to the machine of corruption they have made institutional.  Unplug that machine - and I am sure they are willing and ready to burn everything - absolutely everyone and everything - to the ground in this country.

The question is, are we willing to risk them doing that to re-establish justice and the rule of law - or will the lawless truly have become the whole law unto themselves?
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: DB on February 06, 2018, 02:47:01 am
Doubtful that is going to happen. 

If anything we are learning just how institutional this weaponizing of the federal beast into a political machine to go after anyone it seeks to destroy, has become.

I just do not see people willing to risk the financial ruin and/or ocean of blood that dislodging the Deep State Oligarchy in DC and it's Fascistic incestuous relationships with big business and gravy train money will require.

It's now endemic to how the entirety of DC operates.  Has been for some time, in full view of We The People and Congress - oftentimes to cheers. 

Ends justify the means.  Principles do not mean jack shit - only money and making ends meet matters to most.

That DC openly shows their contempt for We The People as frequently as they now do, is because they know and understand that there is no real risk to them, no real risk to their stolen fortunes and no real risk to the machine of corruption they have made institutional.  Unplug that machine - and I am sure they are willing and ready to burn everything - absolutely everyone and everything - to the ground in this country.

The question is, are we willing to risk them doing that to re-establish justice and the rule of law - or will the lawless truly have become the whole law unto themselves?

No argument from me... It could all blow up and the obvious crimes be prosecuted, but I doubt it... The IRS thing should have been a major scandal but it was deemed no big deal with Republican congressional supervision, short of making some noise and then moving on... This is just more of the same.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 02:55:30 am
Levin on Hannity just said that Barack Obama has gone into witness protection.  Nobody’s heard from him.   :silly:

He is on fire!  Y’all should watch the clip when it comes out if you missed it on FOX.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Emjay on February 06, 2018, 03:04:40 am
@ArneFufkin

I was just as wrong as you were my friend.  I have yet to vote for Trump ever.

I appreciate you and Arne and, well, me, for being able to set aside our original Trump hate and applaud his accomplishments.

So many here are still nursing theirs.
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: anubias on February 06, 2018, 03:07:12 am
I appreciate you and Arne and, well, me, for being able to set aside our original Trump hate and applaud his accomplishments.

So many here are still nursing theirs.

Hey!  I guess I’m chopped liver.   8888crybaby
Title: Re: JUST IN: Intel Chair Devin Nunes Drops Bombshell on Who’s Next in the Investigation: “This is ju
Post by: Emjay on February 06, 2018, 03:08:33 am
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Hah!  I just grabbed 3 headlines from Yahoo.

Here's their Trump hate for the day:

Did Melania Just Swat Trump's Hand Again? Twitter Sure Thinks So

About that memo, who do you believe: Nunes, or your own eyes?

Trump calls Dems who didn't clap during State of the Union 'treasonous' and 'un-American'