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TRUMP INAUGURAL ADDRESS: Brilliant, Populist, NOT Conservative
By Ben Shapiro
January 20, 2017
Friday, Donald J. Trump became President of the United States. His inaugural address was pure Trump: a populist brew of government interventionism, patriotic rhetoric, law and order toughness, protectionist economics, and isolationist foreign policy. It was politically brilliant, and it had little to do with conservatism.
Trump is Trump.
His supporters will cheer, of course, as they would at nearly anything he said. His critics will complain, of course, as they would at nearly anything he said. But if Trump’s inaugural address foretold any serious policy, he just presaged a major political realignment: a movement of the Republican Party away from the Reagan conservatism of the past – fiscal conservatism, social conservatism, foreign policy hawkishness – to Pat Buchananite populism. Trump’s philosophy – what we’ve seen of it, at least -- is absolutely antithetical to the idea of maintaining liberty at home through small government and abroad through alliances and muscular defense.
That will shake up both sides of the political aisle. It will also make conservative philosophy a stranger to the halls of power for the foreseeable future.
That doesn’t mean that we won’t see significant doses of conservative policy. Trump’s populism has crossover with some such policy, just as it does with Bernie Sanders’ democratic socialism. But it has no philosophical crossover with conservatism itself, because it is predicated on the notion that the government represents the dreams of the people, and the Great Leader represents their agent.
So, in no particular order, some thoughts.
1. The “Dark” Speech Was Politically Brilliant. Just as the media got Trump’s Republican National Convention address all wrong – they complained about its darkness and its gloom – they’ll get this one wrong, too. They’re all focusing in on the phrase “American carnage” from the speech, not realizing that Trump is doing something quite intelligent: he’s setting a backdrop for his performance as president. Barack Obama used George W. Bush as his foil for eight years, to great success. Trump is taking office proclaiming America a Mad Max-ian wasteland – a feeling many Americans share, particularly in his base – and thus setting himself up as the man of change.
2. Trump’s Definition of Enemies Is Smart. Trump also declared all the popular whipping boys his enemies: Washington D.C., the “establishment” (all of whom support him inside the Republican Party), foreign countries supposedly stealing our jobs and wealth. Trump understands innately that politics is the art of opposition, and he used his inaugural address to set himself in opposition to the enemies of the American people. The best line of Trump’s speech came early: “we are transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people.” This portion of the speech was tremendous:
Read more at:
http://www.dailywire.com/news/12615/trump-inaugural-address-brilliant-populist-not-ben-shapiro
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Which part of the article is your thumbs-up for? (Assuming you actually read the article.)
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Populism is a cowards way of admitting their progressivism.
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Populism is a cowards way of admitting their progressivism.
"America First" is a cornerstone of progressivism?
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Shapiro has a point (as always) but Trump's political philosophy, as he generally laid out yesterday, has far more in common with Conservatism than it does Progressivism.
There is nothing intrinsically antithetical to conservatism in an America First approach.
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Populism is a cowards way of admitting their progressivism.
Yep.
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Yep.
No less progressive than the republican who founded the progressive party.
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[Trump]...will also make conservative philosophy a stranger to the halls of power for the foreseeable future….it has no philosophical crossover with conservatism itself, because it is predicated on the notion that the government represents the dreams of the people, and the Great Leader represents their agent.
Exactly as we warned it would.
..Trump: “Protection will lead to great prosperity and strength” – applied, to trade, is economically illiterate. But that won’t stop Trump from embracing an anti-free trade mentality that will deeply damage our economy
Exactly as we warned it would.
Trump Isn’t Going To Limit Government. He’s Going To Use It With Alacrity. ...This is different from what the conviction of our founders was: not that a nation exists to serve its citizens, but that a nation exists to protect their rights. That difference is not minor. It is foundational. Trump’s vision of government provides jobs, invests in infrastructure at incredible rates, guarantees health care, and the like.
Which is exactly as we warned he would govern: as a NYC Liberal Democrat, sans the raw hatred of the country the Communist Left does.
And to some, that is all that matters.
But in terms of Conservatism and liberty itself - nothing will change. Trump will grow government power and intrusion just as Hillary would have, and introduce a whole different set of dangers when Trump governs as Trump rather than a Statesman with the stewardship of the Executive.
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Yep.
So you agree "America First" is the cornerstone of progressivism. Good to know.
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So you agree "America First" is the cornerstone of progressivism. Good to know.
I sure don't.
Secured Borders, Ending the carnage in America (per places we know of), drugs, fight terrorism. I guess these are the pillars of progressivism then.
You add on that Trump is likely to be pro-life in a major way; I know there is always room for criticism so be it. Trump's probably going to be pro-Israel too, we will though, have to see what happens.
Anway, I think dailywire is Ben Shapiro, good man, clearly invested in this situation. Others are saying the speech wasn't good so at least, they are saying it was brilliant.
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So you agree "America First" is the cornerstone of progressivism. Good to know.
It's like speaking to a rock, @Right_in_Virginia ...not at all worth it.
These are the some of the same members that fiercely defended their claim that Donald Trump was acting only as a "Trojan Horse" for Hillary Clinton...just because as a businessman based in NYC...he contributed to Democrats.
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It's like speaking to a rock, @Right_in_Virginia ...not at all worth it.
These are the some of the same members that fiercely defended their claim that Donald Trump was acting only as a "Trojan Horse" for Hillary Clinton...just because as a businessman based in NYC...he contributed to Democrats.
I had been holding out hope @DCPatriot But methinks you are right. It's not worth the time or investment. **nononono*
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I had been holding out hope @DCPatriot But methinks you are right. It's not worth the time or investment. **nononono*
Baloney... Many of us never made that claim. Many of us DO still believe he was, is, and shall be a Trojan horse for the left wing agenda
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Baloney... Many of us never made that claim. Many of us DO still believe he was, is, and shall be a Trojan horse for the left wing agenda
Which side are you arguing here @catfish1957 ?
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Which side are you arguing here @catfish1957 ?
For the conservative side and movement, which Trump obviously is not. How about you RIV..... Are thou a conservative, or just an extension of your orange master?
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Baloney... Many of us never made that claim. Many of us DO still believe he was, is, and shall be a Trojan horse for the left wing agenda
All I know is that Piers Morgan loves him some Donald Trump.
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I don't know what trump "Is". But I'm damn sure going to keep my stupid mouth shut till I can judge him on his record.... That clock started yesterday.
I wish the rest of you would do the same.
Just say'n
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These are the some of the same members that fiercely defended their claim that Donald Trump was acting only as a "Trojan Horse" for Hillary Clinton...just because as a businessman based in NYC...he contributed to Democrats.
Trump was 'just a businessman' from NYC??????
(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user12162/imageroot/2016/03/17/Trump%20endorses%20Clinton.png)
(https://cdn29.elitedaily.com/content/uploads/2016/09/23165824/TrumpClintonGolf.jpg)
Oh and YES, I was fully convinced he was Hillary's stalking horse:
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-12/28/22/enhanced/webdr09/enhanced-10615-1451358678-2.png?no-auto)
"I know Hillary and I think she’d make a great president or vice-president" (https://web.archive.org/web/20100217214811/http://www.trumpuniversity.com/blog/post/2008/03/the-race-for-vicepresident.cfm)
Trump did not just hand out donations to fund Liberal/Leftist/Communist campaigns and foundations - but VOTED HE FOR THEM - CAMPAIGNED FOR THEM:
(http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/trumpobama.png)
Trump helped give us Obama. He voted for him.
Trump helped give us the Clintons. He voted for, funded and campaigned for them.
Trump gave NYC Communist Mayor Bill DeBlasio. He funded, campaigned and voted for him.
With all the available evidence of whom Trump supported and campaigned for - it was no stretch to suggest he was in the race for "his friends" as a spoiler.
I have my own thoughts on why he decided to go all the way.
Regardless of any of that, a lifelong NY Liberal Democrat who voted for Obama is now President of the country and the HEAD of the Republican Party.
Forgive me if I'm not one of the people exclaiming 'we're saved!'
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I don't know what trump "Is". But I'm damn sure going to keep my stupid mouth shut till I can judge him on his record.... That clock started yesterday.
I wish the rest of you would do the same.
Just say'n
Valid point.
The problem is that he is a serial liar, so anything he says could be, just like his campaign garbage, just lies.
That's where that old character problem comes in. He may DO a few things we approve of, but he will still not BE someone we approve of.
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I don't know what trump "Is". But I'm damn sure going to keep my stupid mouth shut till I can judge him on his record.... That clock started yesterday.
I wish the rest of you would do the same.
Just say'n
You go right on and play lets pretend. I know for a fact that he's been a lowlife piece of trash liberal for 70 years.
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You go right on and play lets pretend. I know for a fact that he's been a lowlife piece of trash liberal for 70 years.
Whatever.
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Trump’s populism has crossover with some such policy, just as it does with Bernie Sanders’ democratic socialism. But it has no philosophical crossover with conservatism itself, because it is predicated on the notion that the government represents the dreams of the people, and the Great Leader represents their agent.
I wish I'd written that.
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I wish I'd written that.
Oh, I'm sure you did somewhere, some time. ^-^
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From the article:
6. Trump Isn’t Going To Limit Government. He’s Going To Use It With Alacrity. Immediately after stating that Washington
D.C. would have to delegate power back to the people, Trump dropped this line: “At the center of this movement is a crucial conviction,
that a nation exists to serve its citizens. Americans want great schools for their children, safe neighborhoods for their families and good
jobs for themselves. These are just and reasonable demands of righteous people and a righteous public.” This is different from what
the conviction of our founders was: not that a nation exists to serve its citizens, but that a nation exists to protect their rights. That
difference is not minor. It is foundational. Trump’s vision of government provides jobs, invests in infrastructure at incredible rates,
guarantees health care, and the like. As Trump ad libbed, “We will build new roads and highways and bridges and airports and tunnels
and railways all across our wonderful nation.” His view of government is that government ought to take care of the citizenry, rather than
protecting the citizens so they can take care of themselves. (Emphases added.)
I wish I'd written that, too.
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I don't know what trump "Is". But I'm damn sure going to keep my stupid mouth shut till I can judge him on his record.... That clock started yesterday.
I wish the rest of you would do the same.
Just say'n
So far, what I'm seeing is mixed. His appointee to budget director is good. I doubt we would get a true fiscal hawk if Hillary won. I hope Mulvaney(sp) has more influence on his mind and not his daughter.
"America First" is catchy but it should not be used as a phrase to grow the debt and the size of the federal government. We already had "Hope and Change" and we ended up with 60 some percent saying the country is on the wrong track
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Oh, I'm sure you did somewhere, some time. ^-^
I probably used different words to say the same thing. His were better than mine. :)
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I don't know what trump "Is". But I'm damn sure going to keep my stupid mouth shut till I can judge him on his record.... That clock started yesterday.
I wish the rest of you would do the same.
Just say'n
Under normal circumstances, I'd agree, but the alienation caused by his Orangeness and his ilk during the past year has not earned that level of decorum. We can be just as unapologetic as F'n Trump.
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"America First" is a cornerstone of progressivism?
America First, seldom means what it seems to mean on face value.
Populism is a cover for progressivism. Populists work on the emotions of the lowest common denominators...gin up the mob.
Huey Long was a populist. Of a more gentlemanly sort, so was Franklin Roosevelt.
Lyndon Johnson wore a populist coat...it didnt' fit well but his aims and his contempt for the Little People fit in well with the true populists.
Lyndon LaRouche tried to be a populist; but he was at the wrong time. Reagan's plans were keeping America humming; and malcontents were not so engaging.
So...no...I see nothing positive in "populism."
How about "Americanism"? "Constitutionalism"? "Federalism"? I know those terms take explaining, these days...but it used to be, kids were expected to learn them and their meanings in Junior High.
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Trump’s populism has crossover with some such policy, just as it does with Bernie Sanders’ democratic socialism. But it has no philosophical crossover with conservatism itself, because it is predicated on the notion that the government represents the dreams of the people, and the Great Leader represents their agent.
I wish I'd written that.
Part of the problem is that people don't understand what progressivism is. They think it means left but it doesn't and never has. If you ask them what makes Trump a conservative they say things like Border control and putting America first but progressive party founder Teddy Roosevelt supported those things as did real conservative Calvin Coolidge and progressive democrat Woodrow Wilson.
Progressivism is primarily about giving government ever more power under the guise of helping. Teddy Roosevelt was conservative by our standards today but his progressive party platform supported things like the direct election of senators, social security, income taxes (all of which we got within a few years) and a national health insurance system (which we have now). His supporters will claim Trump is against all of those things but he's been vague about them as well as breathing fire.
As a conservative I want to see the power of the federal government diminished on every front. That includes the executive branch and the president himself. Just yesterday Mike Lee offered up the first test of conservatism of the new session and a direct shot across the bow of Trump.
Mike Lee (R-UT) introduced the Global Trade Accountability Act Friday, a bill that would subject all Executive Branch trade actions (including raising tariffs) to congressional approval.
http://www.lee.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=press-releases&id=8DA8C6CF-3413-4D60-9985-3CB8CAE83157
In the Medellin vs Texas case (Thank you Ted Cruz) the supreme court ruled that international treaties don't bind the individual states if there is no congressional legislation binding them. My state's attorney General cited Medellin vs Tex when he announced that we would not be lifting our state imposed sanctions against Iran.
A president should have the executive order available to him but using it should be exceedingly rare and they should be backed up by congressional legislation.
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Valid point.
The problem is that he is a serial liar, so anything he says could be, just like his campaign garbage, just lies.
That's where that old character problem comes in. He may DO a few things we approve of, but he will still not BE someone we approve of.
I wish to sincerely thank you for NOT being here yesterday...Inauguration Day.
Seriously. :beer:
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I wish to sincerely thank you for NOT being here yesterday...Inauguration Day.
Seriously. :beer:
And we're off....
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I wish I'd written that.
@EasyAce
I do love the way Shapiro writes.
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And we're off....
Nope. He's the second person to "earn" the right to be on my permanent IGNORE list.
I know he thinks he triumphed when I took a week off, but I saw what he did when I was gone, and I know I'm not his only target.
It's all good. He can taunt and lie til the cows come home, and I won't be sucked in to the swill. :patriot:
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I wish to sincerely thank you for NOT being here yesterday...Inauguration Day.
Seriously. :beer:
You just can't stop with the a$$&%le routine can you!
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Nope. He's the second person to "earn" the right to be on my permanent IGNORE list.
I know he thinks he triumphed when I took a week off, but I saw what he did when I was gone, and I know I'm not his only target.
It's all good. He can taunt and lie til the cows come home, and I won't be sucked in to the swill. :patriot:
@musiclady @mystery-ak --- and everyone: Can can we please stay on topic? If not, can this part of the conversation be moved to another forum on the site and continued there?
Thanks very much.
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Part of the problem is that people don't understand what progressivism is. They think it means left but it doesn't and never has. If you ask them what makes Trump a conservative they say things like Border control and putting America first but progressive party founder Teddy Roosevelt supported those things as did real conservative Calvin Coolidge and progressive democrat Woodrow Wilson.
Progressivism is primarily about giving government ever more power under the guise of helping. Teddy Roosevelt was conservative by our standards today but his progressive party platform supported things like the direct election of senators, social security, income taxes (all of which we got within a few years) and a national health insurance system (which we have now). His supporters will claim Trump is against all of those things but he's been vague about them as well as breathing fire.
Theodore Roosevelt was the archetype for what Michael D. Tanner---in his should-have-been-required-reading-before-2008
book Leviathan on the Right: How Big Government Conservatism Brought Down the Republican Revolution---isolated as
the big-government conservatism type called the "national greatness conservative," whose contemporary avatars Tanner
identified as John McCain and New York Times columnist David Brooks (who sort of coined the phrase in the first place,
but eventually and almost quietly turned away from it by Barack Obama's re-election), arguing (as T.R. pretty much did,
and no shock, since he was one of McCain's political heroes) "Americans needed grand federal crusades to pull them away
from private, parochial concerns and invest their lives with meaning." (Oy gevalt, just what the right didn't need, a
"conservative" version of the "politics of meaning" that once sprang a) from the left, and b) from the loins of Droopy Drawers
and Hilarious Rodent Clinton, both of whom rather admired the man who articulated it, Tikkun editor Michael Lerner!)
As a conservative I want to see the power of the federal government diminished on every front. That includes the executive branch and the president himself. Just yesterday Mike Lee offered up the first test of conservatism of the new session and a direct shot across the bow of Trump.
Mike Lee (R-UT) introduced the Global Trade Accountability Act Friday, a bill that would subject all Executive Branch trade actions (including raising tariffs) to congressional approval.
When I saw Lee's proposal I could only imagine Donaldus Minimus's mental tumblers spinning to come up with
a nickname for Lee---something like "Pinky Lee," of course . . . ;)
A president should have the executive order available to him but using it should be exceedingly rare and they should be backed up by congressional legislation.
I think the executive order should be restored to what I think was its original purpose, administering the executive
branch and not making an end-run around the legislative priority of Congress. The Constitution says the
president shall recommend legislation from time to time, not that his ideas for legislation become an
automatic consideration or approval from Congress.
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I wish to sincerely thank you for NOT being here yesterday...Inauguration Day.
Seriously. :beer:
Most of us were here and stayed away from your lovefest out of respect for decorum UNLIKE some of the Trumpsters on every Cruz thread.
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It's like speaking to a rock, @Right_in_Virginia ...not at all worth it.
These are the some of the same members that fiercely defended their claim that Donald Trump was acting only as a "Trojan Horse" for Hillary Clinton...just because as a businessman based in NYC...he contributed to Democrats.
@DCPatriot @Right_in_Virginia
They are not conservatives. They are Bush League Republicans,pushing for globalism.
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@EasyAce
"Americans needed grand federal crusades to pull them away from private, parochial concerns and invest their lives with meaning."
Or as Wilsonian progressive Walter Lippman said....
"Mass man functioned as a bewildered herd who must be governed by a specialized class whose interests reach beyond the locality."
Or more recently Cass Sunstein...
Once we know that people are human and have some Homer Simpson in them, then there's a lot that can be done to manipulate them.
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@DCPatriot @Right_in_Virginia
They are not conservatives. They are Bush League Republicans,pushing for globalism.
I'm sure that's NOT it, @sneakypete
Trump was simply taking the opportunity, while the entire world waited and hung on every word...to let the People know he was going to follow thru on everything he said.
* America First
* Better trade deals
* Better small business environment (SB is the true backbone of the economy)
* Americans hire first...means better paying jobs
* Eradicate radical Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth. vs. the very people sitting behind him who wouldn't even admit it existed.
....and yet, to too many #NeverTrump people on the forum, their hatred and embarrassment of getting the entire election wrong, won't allow them to give any credit to the man himself.
To some of them, they're still stuck on stupid...saying he's a serial liar (?)...comparing him to Benito and/or Adolph, etc..
I've found that there are now MORE members who were part of the anti-Trump that are willing to have cordial back-and forth with us.
Their common sense prevailed and recognize we're far ahead as a country and advancing true Patriotism (in a sense that more and more voters will be positively affected by his policies than negatively)
Whether anybody noticed it or not, yesterday, President Trump was building the Party.
With the extreme positions of the Democrats, and also putting their focus on special interest groups at the expense of Lunch Bucket Joe and Joe the Plumber...and their respective families...
He intends to entice them to join the GOP. And we all know he gets what he sets out to do.
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I just love getting pinged to these arguments.....put ea other on ignore or settle it in pms.
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I just love getting pinged to these arguments.....put ea other on ignore or settle it in pms.
I'm sure you don't love it @mystery-ak And I appreciate that.
But, you set the rules here. How about one as simple as this: "The purpose of this site is to discuss, as adults, the issues of the day. To this end, we will stay on the topic of each thread. Polluting threads with personal opinions about other posters will no longer be tolerated. If you have something to say about each other, do so in PMs or on the Member Only forums. The posts that ignore this rule will be removed or moved, regardless of the BR member."
Doable?
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They are not conservatives. They are Bush League Republicans,pushing for globalism.
Presumptive.
I'm no longer a Republican, Bush sucked (BOTH of them IMO) and I'm no fan of global Marxism.
I do like to buy things from Japan that are not made here.
Swords specifically.
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Declaring one's enemies is not smart, but foolish.
For you telegraph your intentions to them before you are capable of acting.
That gives them time to prepare.
He's turned Theodore Roosevelt's axiom of "Speak softly and carry a big stick" on it's head.
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I'm sure that's NOT it, @sneakypete
Trump was simply taking the opportunity, while the entire world waited and hung on every word...to let the People know he was going to follow thru on everything he said.
* America First
* Better trade deals
* Better small business environment (SB is the true backbone of the economy)
* Americans hire first...means better paying jobs
* Eradicate radical Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth. vs. the very people sitting behind him who wouldn't even admit it existed.
....and yet, to too many #NeverTrump people on the forum, their hatred and embarrassment of getting the entire election wrong, won't allow them to give any credit to the man himself.
To some of them, they're still stuck on stupid...saying he's a serial liar (?)...comparing him to Benito and/or Adolph, etc..
I've found that there are now MORE members who were part of the anti-Trump that are willing to have cordial back-and forth with us.
Their common sense prevailed and recognize we're far ahead as a country and advancing true Patriotism (in a sense that more and more voters will be positively affected by his policies than negatively)
Whether anybody noticed it or not, yesterday, President Trump was building the Party.
With the extreme positions of the Democrats, and also putting their focus on special interest groups at the expense of Lunch Bucket Joe and Joe the Plumber...and their respective families...
He intends to entice them to join the GOP. And we all know he gets what he sets out to do.
:beer:
@DCPatriot
I hope you are right.
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@DCPatriot
I hope you are right.
Me too, my friend.
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I'm sure that's NOT it, @sneakypete
Trump was simply taking the opportunity, while the entire world waited and hung on every word...to let the People know he was going to follow thru on everything he said.
* America First
* Better trade deals
* Better small business environment (SB is the true backbone of the economy)
* Americans hire first...means better paying jobs
* Eradicate radical Islamic terrorism from the face of the earth. vs. the very people sitting behind him who wouldn't even admit it existed.
....and yet, to too many #NeverTrump people on the forum, their hatred and embarrassment of getting the entire election wrong, won't allow them to give any credit to the man himself.
To some of them, they're still stuck on stupid...saying he's a serial liar (?)...comparing him to Benito and/or Adolph, etc..
I've found that there are now MORE members who were part of the anti-Trump that are willing to have cordial back-and forth with us.
Their common sense prevailed and recognize we're far ahead as a country and advancing true Patriotism (in a sense that more and more voters will be positively affected by his policies than negatively)
Whether anybody noticed it or not, yesterday, President Trump was building the Party.
With the extreme positions of the Democrats, and also putting their focus on special interest groups at the expense of Lunch Bucket Joe and Joe the Plumber...and their respective families...
He intends to entice them to join the GOP. And we all know he gets what he sets out to do.
:beer:
Passion, I heard that coming home, they were repeating the address tonight on the radio.
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Most of us were here and stayed away from your lovefest out of respect for decorum UNLIKE some of the Trumpsters on every Cruz thread.
@corbe
Exactly and thanks for pointing this out to everyone.
:amen:
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Presumptive.
I'm no longer a Republican, Bush sucked (BOTH of them IMO) and I'm no fan of global Marxism.
I do like to buy things from Japan that are not made here.
Swords specifically.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyBtMxZgQs
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Presumptive.
I'm no longer a Republican, Bush sucked (BOTH of them IMO) and I'm no fan of global Marxism.
I do like to buy things from Japan that are not made here.
Swords specifically.
The irony is that HE voted for a globalist liberal "Republican" and YOU voted for a Conservative.
That should end the discussion immediately. :patriot:
@INVAR
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Indiana Jones Versus the Swordman Scene
In concert with the blades I have plenty of irons.
The blades however, require a lot more skill to wield and use.
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In concert with the blades I have plenty of irons.
The blades however, require a lot more skill to wield and use.
I agree with you....but the most skilled swordsman is, uh, toast facing a....well, watch the video. :patriot:
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I agree with you....but the most skilled swordsman is, uh, toast facing a....well, watch the video. :patriot:
I would never bring a sword to a gunfight.
But when stealth or close quarters are required - nothing beats a sharp blade.
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I would never bring a sword to a gunfight.
But when stealth or close quarters are required - nothing beats a sharp blade.
Agreed.
Tune in to "FRONTIER"...a new six-episode series on Netflix, starring Jason Momoa.
It's about the fight for dominance for trading in the 'New World' with the Hudson Bay Company.
I understand Momoa is actually very talented tossing hatchets. And I'm not talking the Sears & Roebuck type either.
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I would never bring a sword to a gunfight.
But when stealth or close quarters are required - nothing beats a sharp blade.
@INVAR
I disagree. My vote goes for a "hushpuppy",which generally meant a silenced 22,but the truth is they came in all calibers. I actually had a .45 ACP WW-2 M3A3 "Greasgun" from WW-2 with a suppressor on it in VN. Loudest noise was the clang that big,heavy bolt made going forward. There were LOTS of suppressed 9mm sub guns like Stens and Swedish K's,but they had to fire special reduced loads to keep from burning the suppressor (we called them silencers back them) out. I once saw a suppressed round from a Sten bounce off the wooden floor in the tent at our launch site at Dak To. The roof had been leaking and there was a puddle of water right where you had to walk going in or out of the tent,and it was slippery as hell,so someone figured he would just shoot a hole in the floor to let the water drain out. My thinking is that "If I am going to shoot a guy in the knee with a pistol round to disable him so I can capture him,I'm damn sure going to shoot him with a full-powered round and big bullet instead of a squib load."
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Agreed.
Tune in to "FRONTIER"...a new six-episode series on Netflix, starring Jason Momoa.
@DCPatriot
Thanks for the tip. I now have it on my watch list.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU-paVv6zTk
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@INVAR
I disagree. My vote goes for a "hushpuppy",which generally meant a silenced 22,but the truth is they came in all calibers. I actually had a .45 ACP WW-2 M3A3 "Greasgun" from WW-2 with a suppressor on it in VN. Loudest noise was the clang that big,heavy bolt made going forward. There were LOTS of suppressed 9mm sub guns like Stens and Swedish K's,but they had to fire special reduced loads to keep from burning the suppressor (we called them silencers back them) out. I once saw a suppressed round from a Sten bounce off the wooden floor in the tent at our launch site at Dak To. The roof had been leaking and there was a puddle of water right where you had to walk going in or out of the tent,and it was slippery as hell,so someone figured he would just shoot a hole in the floor to let the water drain out. My thinking is that "If I am going to shoot a guy in the knee with a pistol round to disable him so I can capture him,I'm damn sure going to shoot him with a full-powered round and big bullet instead of a squib load."
I've shot plenty .22, bricks of it from the 10-22 and the various pistols running from the wife to the kids, but never fired a suppressed/silenced round - so I have no frame of reference.
I'll have to take your word for it.
I will state, that down in these parts showing the suitors for your daughters your gun collection in hopes of intimidating them to make sure your little girl is home at the appropriate hour, has zero desired effect beyond "Hey, I got one of those".
But showing them that I can peel grapes with a katana…. priceless beyond measure.
It's good when the boyfriends are scared to death of Daddy.
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It's good when the boyfriends are scared to death of Daddy.
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Sure can't argue with that.