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Title: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: mystery-ak on January 10, 2020, 05:41:28 pm
 Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
The crash of Ukrainian Airlines Flight 752 is a tragedy, the culpability for which lies unequivocally with Iran. To suggest otherwise is to cheapen the deaths of hundreds to score political points against the 'bad orange man.'
Erielle Davidson
By Erielle Davidson
January 10, 2020

Something grotesque is unfolding on the left, particularly about Ukrainian Airlines Flight 752, which domestic and foreign governments indicate was likely shot down by an Iranian antiaircraft missile. One-hundred and seventy-six individuals perished as the airplane caught fire and came crashing to the ground in Iran early Wednesday morning.

Those on the left have opted to blame President Trump for the Iranians’ error, searching desperately for any way in which to transform President Trump’s controlled and tactical maneuvers in Iran into a policy quagmire. The crash of Ukrainian Airlines Flight 752 is indeed a tragedy, the culpability for which lies unequivocally with the Iranian regime. To suggest otherwise is to cheapen the deaths of hundreds for the sake of scoring political points against the “bad orange man.”

But the Democrats have shown no compunction about engaging in such an ethically reprehensible endeavor. Trump “broke” the left, and they are doggedly indicating to us that the term “broke” also included snapping their moral compass in half.

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https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/10/left-blames-president-trump-for-irans-decision-to-shoot-down-a-passenger-plane/
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: mystery-ak on January 10, 2020, 05:42:04 pm
Tulsi Gabbard Joins The Blaming Of Trump For Iran’s Fatal Attack On A Civilian Airliner
https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/10/tulsi-gabbard-joins-the-blaming-of-trump-for-irans-fatal-attack-on-a-civilian-airliner/
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: PeteS in CA on January 10, 2020, 05:48:35 pm
I blame Alexander the Great, because he conquered the Persian Empire and destroyed Persian military power.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 10, 2020, 05:55:11 pm
I blame Alexander the Great, because he conquered the Persian Empire and destroyed Persian military power.

Alexander gave them their permanent Inferiority Complex.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: truth_seeker on January 10, 2020, 06:29:26 pm
So the terrorist Iranian general has already killed hundreds of Americans, thousands of Iraqis and Iranians.

Yet the nonsensical political left, blames Trump, not him.

TDS republicans/conservattives, democrats grouped together, singing off the same music sheets.

All together now:

TRUMPS FAULT, ORANGE MAN BAD,

Omar, AOC, Tulsi (now), Lee, Paul

It is not funny; rather very pathetic that anybody on the right, falls fr it.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: musiclady on January 10, 2020, 06:48:18 pm
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But the Democrats have shown no compunction about engaging in such an ethically reprehensible endeavor. Trump “broke” the left, and they are doggedly indicating to us that the term “broke” also included snapping their moral compass in half.

What moral compass?  The left has never had a moral compass.......  ever.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Absalom on January 10, 2020, 07:09:56 pm
I blame Alexander the Great, because he conquered the Persian Empire and destroyed Persian military power.
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Consider, were his kind living in 600 AD, Islam would have been extinguished to the last man!!!!
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: goatprairie on January 10, 2020, 07:13:48 pm
I'ts a wonder that they haven't blamed Trump for ingrown toenails and itchy underwear.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Absalom on January 10, 2020, 07:18:26 pm
So the terrorist Iranian general has already killed hundreds of Americans, thousands of Iraqis and Iranians.
Yet the nonsensical political left, blames Trump, not him.
TDS republicans/conservattives, democrats grouped together, singing off the same music sheets.
All together now:
TRUMPS FAULT, ORANGE MAN BAD,
Omar, AOC, Tulsi (now), Lee, Paul
It is not funny; rather very pathetic that anybody on the right, falls fr it.
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Pincipled Conservatives share none of the attitudes and behaviors of the frenzied left. NONE!
Paul is self-labled libertarian and lefty; Lee, needy of attetion, is in awe of Romney.
You don't know what you're talking about!!!!
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Free Vulcan on January 10, 2020, 07:22:24 pm
The Left has become nothing but political opportunism and ambush, on their quest for total power.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: truth_seeker on January 11, 2020, 09:09:31 pm
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Pincipled Conservatives share none of the attitudes and behaviors of the frenzied left. NONE!
Paul is self-labled libertarian and lefty; Lee, needy of attetion, is in awe of Romney.
You don't know what you're talking about!!!!
Care to put orward, the viable "principled" conservative that you intend to support for 2020?
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2020, 09:13:40 pm
I've come to the conclusion that the leftists and RINO's blame Trump for everything. It's to the point that I just don't pay attention to them anymore -- in doing so it half way keeps my sanity.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: 240B on January 11, 2020, 09:19:40 pm
I'ts a wonder that they haven't blamed Trump for ingrown toenails and itchy underwear.
I promise you, with no exaggeration at all, that if a meteor struck the Earth somewhere/anywhere the insane Left would blame Trump and the Republicans. But we have seen all of this before with President Bush. That makes it even more pathetic. It's not even original.

Obama was the second coming of Christ, who could walk and water and could do no wrong.
Republicans are responsible for every ill in the world, including dandruff and sprained ankles. (so childish, and really pathetic)
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Victoria33 on January 11, 2020, 09:28:04 pm
@Cyber Liberty

You are fine one minute, and dead the next minute. 
It is true if Trump had not killed the General, Iran would not have sent rockets and would not have downed the airplane, as they thought it was something the US sent to them.

In Fort Worth, not long ago, two teen agers went out after a storm and went to a certain place and both, unknowingly, stepped on an electric wire that had been blown down by the storm, and it killed both of them right then.  They would be alive if the storm had not come - but it did.  They would be alive if they had stayed in their house - but they did not.

Once someone is dead, time cannot go back to before that happened and have a different outcome. We cannot fix it - and I feel so sorry for so many Canadians being on that plane.  We heard there were 65 Canadians, but there were a total of 118 going to Canada.  I think I have those numbers right.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: dfwgator on January 11, 2020, 09:37:33 pm
Leftists gonna Left.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: dfwgator on January 11, 2020, 09:38:15 pm
I'ts a wonder that they haven't blamed Trump for ingrown toenails and itchy underwear.

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Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: DB on January 11, 2020, 09:47:15 pm
@Cyber Liberty

You are fine one minute, and dead the next minute. 
It is true if Trump had not killed the General, Iran would not have sent rockets and would not have downed the airplane, as they thought it was something the US sent to them.

In Fort Worth, not long ago, two teen agers went out after a storm and went to a certain place and both, unknowingly, stepped on an electric wire that had been blown down by the storm, and it killed both of them right then.  They would be alive if the storm had not come - but it did.  They would be alive if they had stayed in their house - but they did not.

Once someone is dead, time cannot go back to before that happened and have a different outcome. We cannot fix it - and I feel so sorry for so many Canadians being on that plane.  We heard there were 65 Canadians, but there were a total of 118 going to Canada.  I think I have those numbers right.

And what if Iran through its proxies hadn't attacked our embassy?
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: libertybele on January 11, 2020, 09:47:19 pm
I promise you, with no exaggeration at all, that if a meteor struck the Earth somewhere/anywhere the insane Left would blame Trump and the Republicans. But we have seen all of this before with President Bush. That makes it even more pathetic. It's not even original.

Obama was the second coming of Christ, who could walk and water and could do no wrong.
Republicans are responsible for every ill in the world, including dandruff and sprained ankles. (so childish, and really pathetic)

Yes same playbook with W. Bush -- but nowhere near as bad as what the left is dishing out at Trump.  I remember the shoe flying incident with Bush, but that was by an Iraqi journalist.  I really don't recall much mud slinging at Bush until his 2nd term in office. 

It seems that the 'respect' for the office of the presidency ended with the Clinton administration -- he lied.  He got caught.  He wasn't removed.  That sent a message to the American people, it certainly made it clear to the leftists that they could get away by lying and deceiving. The integrity of Congress and our DOJ has been broken ever since.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: 240B on January 11, 2020, 10:25:19 pm
The integrity of Congress and our DOJ has been broken ever since.
The DOJ in particular has become a laughing stock joke. It has nothing at all to do with 'Justice' anymore. It has become a purely political agency. DOJ has rather obviously abandoned any actual judicial function. Obama and the Left uses DOJ as a political hit-squad on political opponents. And with Trump the DOJ has essentially gone underground. It has become for all intents and purposes 'dormant'.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Free Vulcan on January 11, 2020, 10:47:55 pm
With these amateur hour Dems I almost long for the days of Carville and the Clinton triangulation team.

They are like watching an old Castro propaganda speech, gesticulating like an idiot, or the North Korean state press agency. So weighted down by their own ideology they look and sound like mindless asshat drones from the hive collective.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on January 11, 2020, 10:56:57 pm
With these amateur hour Dems I almost long for the days of Carville and the Clinton triangulation team.

They are like watching an old Castro propaganda speech, gesticulating like an idiot, or the North Korean state press agency. So weighted down by their own ideology they look and sound like mindless asshat drones from the hive collective.
They may be competing for Iraqi Bob's old position.  Loved his quotes.

"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
"My feelings, as usual, we will slaughter them all."
"Our initial assessment is that they will all die."
"No I am not scared and neither should you be!"
"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."
"They're not even [within] 100 miles [of Baghdad]. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion ... they are trying to sell to the others an illusion."
"Faltering forces of infidels cannot just enter a country of 26 million people and lay besiege to them! They are the ones who will find themselves under siege. Therefore, in reality, whatever this miserable Rumsfeld has been saying, he was talking about his own forces. Now even the American command is under siege."
"Washington has thrown their soldiers on the fire."
"They fled. The American louts fled. Indeed, concerning the fighting waged by the heroes of the Arab Socialist Baath Party yesterday, one amazing thing really is the cowardice of the American soldiers. we had not anticipated this."
"God will roast their stomachs in hell at the hands of Iraqis."
"They tried to bring a small number of tanks and personnel carriers in through al-Durah but they were surrounded and most of their infidels had their throats cut."
"I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."


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Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Free Vulcan on January 11, 2020, 11:20:44 pm
They may be competing for Iraqi Bob's old position.  Loved his quotes.

Old Bob almost seems like a sage compared to these guys.  :beer:
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 11, 2020, 11:45:34 pm
Care to put orward, the viable "principled" conservative that you intend to support for 2020?
I'll wait until 2024, thanks. Another round of this and the Dirty Dems who don't stroke out on their own may be discredited enough in the public psyche their party won't have anyone to put forth who doesn't drool on the podium.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: PeteS in CA on January 12, 2020, 02:42:49 pm
And what if Iran through its proxies hadn't attacked our embassy?

@DB and @Victoria33, the that-was-a-response-to-______ can go back 40+ years, but it ends at two points. 1. Iran invaded our embassy in Tehran and held the staff hostage for over a year. 2. Iran decided to form a military outfit dedicated to spreading their Islamic revolution to other countries via proxies and terrorism; Soleimani commanded that outfit.

So, yeah, I guess it could be said that the US defending itself and other countries over the past 40+ years "caused" the Iranian shoot-down. Just like Christians and Jews and Hindus and ... "cause" Jihadis to hack off their heads because they won't convert to Islam.
Title: Re: Left Blames President Trump For Iran’s Decision To Shoot Down A Passenger Plane
Post by: Absalom on January 13, 2020, 04:54:52 am
Care to put orward, the viable "principled" conservative that you intend to support for 2020?
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Firstly, please accept my apology for the harshness of my retort; which was rash!
As for the existence of pincipled conservatives in our time; the last of them was the
NR crowd of Buckley, Kirk, Kendall, Rusher, Meyer; among about 25, sadly long gone.