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Donald Trump’s Self-Inflicted Wounds Make For An Unlikely Reelection, Experts Say
Andrew Trunsky
Elections Reporter
October 17, 2020 6:53 PM ET
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The election is only a few weeks away, and polls continue to show a large gap between President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden.
The former vice president has consistently led in national and battleground polls and has expanded his lead in critical swing states since the first debate.
As Trump continues to focus on his base, the president has seen a decline in support from critical voting blocs including senior voters, suburbanites and women, polls show.
Polls have consistently shown a sizable polling gap between President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden with the election a few weeks away, leaving little time for the incumbent to increase his standing with battleground demographics that could decide the winner.
Biden has consistently led Trump in both national and battleground polls, and voters have widely disapproved of his handling of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. Further, Trump’s approval among two critical voting blocs — seniors and suburban women — has plummeted, allowing Biden to pull ahead in swing states that the president won four years ago.
“Politics remains a game of addition. You either broaden your base or turn it out in greater numbers,†Bruce Mehlman, a Republican strategist who has provided quarterly in-depth analyses of presidential races for years, told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
“President Trump has never really tried to expand beyond his core supporters,†he said.
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https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/17/trumps-self-inflicted-wounds-unlikely-reelection/
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Thank Gosh for "experts." Without them I wouldn't have any idea what to think.
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Thank Gosh for "experts." Without them I wouldn't have any idea what to think.
I think Biden's self-inflicted wounds are much worse ... but then again, I'm not an expert.
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I think Biden's self-inflicted wounds are much worse ... but then again, I'm not an expert.
You are the expert in deciding how you are going to vote. 333cleo 333cleo
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Thank Gosh for "experts." Without them I wouldn't have any idea what to think.
@Cyber Liberty
@libertybele
@mystery-ak
I AM an expert :yowsa: and I still think Democrats who voted by mail for the first time, will make mistakes and their ballots will be thrown out. I think there will be millions of these thrown out and Trump could win because of it.
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@Cyber Liberty
@libertybele
@mystery-ak
I AM an expert :yowsa: and I still think Democrats who voted by mail for the first time, will make mistakes and their ballots will be thrown out. I think there will be millions of these thrown out and Trump could win because of it.
The irony of that would be ironic!
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The irony of that would be ironic!
There's another article posted here concurrently reporting there have been 300k+ ballots already been rejected in Pennsylvania.
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@Cyber Liberty
@libertybele
@mystery-ak
I AM an expert :yowsa: and I still think Democrats who voted by mail for the first time, will make mistakes and their ballots will be thrown out. I think there will be millions of these thrown out and Trump could win because of it.
@Victoria33 isn't it up to the precinct captain to determine which ballots are thrown out? If the precinct captain leans DEM, don't you think that it is a possibility that they would likely make exceptions??
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Sadly after the last Presidential election a few people like me screamed that election fraud must be remedied and not ignored until the last moments. Looks like serious remedies to election fraud was much ignored for YEARS. As to Trump self-inflicting, the democrats, foaming at the mouth, fiercely threatening citizens with arson, murder, violence,and lot of it already has happened sure looks to me the democrats are running scared. We are getting a show of how Communist and Nazi they are willing to show themselves to be. Kansas City appears to be the latest threats to citizens of threats of arson after the election. Odd the bought and owned by Soros democrats FBI seems to be uninterested at domestic terrorism is it might benefit democrats. IMAGINE THAT ! (As seen Aceofspades)
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Sadly after the last Presidential election a few people like me screamed that election fraud must be remedied and not ignored until the last moments. Looks like serious remedies to election fraud was much ignored for YEARS. As to Trump self-inflicting, the democrats, foaming at the mouth, fiercely threatening citizens with arson, murder, violence,and lot of it already has happened sure looks to me the democrats are running scared. We are getting a show of how Communist and Nazi they are willing to show themselves to be. Kansas City appears to be the latest threats to citizens of threats of arson after the election. Odd the bought and owned by Soros democrats FBI seems to be uninterested at domestic terrorism is it might benefit democrats. IMAGINE THAT ! (As seen Aceofspades)
You got it. 888high58888
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Sadly after the last Presidential election a few people like me screamed that election fraud must be remedied and not ignored until the last moments. Looks like serious remedies to election fraud was much ignored for YEARS. As to Trump self-inflicting, the democrats, foaming at the mouth, fiercely threatening citizens with arson, murder, violence,and lot of it already has happened sure looks to me the democrats are running scared. We are getting a show of how Communist and Nazi they are willing to show themselves to be. Kansas City appears to be the latest threats to citizens of threats of arson after the election. Odd the bought and owned by Soros democrats FBI seems to be uninterested at domestic terrorism is it might benefit democrats. IMAGINE THAT ! (As seen Aceofspades)
And who's been in charge that should have taken care of it???
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And who's been in charge that should have taken care of it???
All of congress and the Judicial branch, in both sides.
For about 2 + years we had no DOJ..with Sessions recusing himself. It isn't as if republicans had all kind of help in that issue. DEMON-RATS fight everything that is good our our country nd enjoy their corruption. So, WHO, do you really want to blame? ALL THE DEMON-RATS in congress & JUDICIAL dept. who have promoted FRAUD & corruption, for decades, or some republican group, trying to do something about it. We have Ted Cruz. Lindsey Graham. It takes attorneys. What about all the senators who are attorneys?
I have information under Obama, Eric Holder, said he would sue anyone , trying to STOP VOTER FRAUD! Documented by JUDICIAL WATCH. Just too many corrupt people in our country now. Hart/Celler act 1965, ruined our country. That would be demon-rat JFK, who wanted this & demon-rat LBJ & Teddy who pushed it into law.
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And who's been in charge that should have taken care of it???
You tell me. The King?
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And who's been in charge that should have taken care of it???
State governors & state legislators?
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State governors.
</snicker>
Like Wolf? Walz? Kate Brown?
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All of congress and the Judicial branch, in both sides.
For about 2 + years we had no DOJ..with Sessions recusing himself. It isn't as if republicans had all kind of help in that issue. DEMON-RATS fight everything that is good our our country nd enjoy their corruption. So, WHO, do you really want to blame? ALL THE DEMON-RATS in congress & JUDICIAL dept. who have promoted FRAUD & corruption, for decades, or some republican group, trying to do something about it. We have Ted Cruz. Lindsey Graham. It takes attorneys. What about all the senators who are attorneys?
I have information under Obama, Eric Holder, said he would sue anyone , trying to STOP VOTER FRAUD! Documented by JUDICIAL WATCH. Just too many corrupt people in our country now. Hart/Celler act 1965, ruined our country. That would be demon-rat JFK, who wanted this & demon-rat LBJ & Teddy who pushed it into law.
President Obama
continues to countenance actions by his appointees that undermine the rule of law and constitutional government:
Despite a ban on funding that Obama signed into law, his administration continues to fund the corrupt and allegedly defunct “community†organization ACORN. In July 2011 Judicial Watch uncovered a $79,819 grant to AHCOA (Affordable Housing Centers of America), the renamed ACORN Housing which has a long history of corrupt activity. In absolute violation of the funding ban, Judicial Watch has since confirmed that the Obama administration has funneled $730,000 to the ACORN network, a group that has a long personal history with President Obama.In 2011, JW released a special report entitled “The Rebranding of ACORN,†which details how the ACORN network is alive and well and ****well-placed to undermine the integrity of the 2012 elections –-**** evidently with the assistance of the Obama administration.
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You tell me. The King?
Well he IS the self-proclaimed 'Great Negotiator'... How's that working out?
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State governors & state legislators?
Federal election commission runs the show...
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Well he IS the self-proclaimed 'Great Negotiator'... How's that working out?
Takes two to Tango. Probably his fault. :shrug:
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</snicker>
Like Wolf? Walz? Kate Brown?
Theres not much the president can do about CAs motor voter laws, unsolicited ballot mass mailings and ballot harvesting rules.
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All of congress and the Judicial branch, in both sides.
Riiiight. It's not his fault. Hell, it's NEVER his fault. The buck never got to the top. Not a single damn time..
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Riiiight. It's not his fault. Hell, it's NEVER his fault. The buck never got to the top. Not a single damn time..
On the contrary, it’s always his fault. Every damn time.
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On the contrary, it’s always his fault. Every damn time.
FINALLY!
YES. It is. The price for being the top dog. I ran my companies. You know what? Not a single damn person wanted to hear excuses. If it's sideways, it's mine to fix. It's MY fault.
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Well he IS the self-proclaimed 'Great Negotiator'... How's that working out?
Very well. 3 Noble peace prize nominations, and one from last year, dealing with foreign powers. America, may just be too corrupt to save her. That is ALL, ON THE CORRUPT PEOPLE IN IT. Do I sense that TRUMP envy? lol
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Very well. 3 Noble peace prize nominations, and one from last year, dealing with foreign powers. America, may just be too corrupt to save her. That is ALL, ON THE CORRUPT PEOPLE IN IT. Do I sense that TRUMP envy? lol
ROTFLMAO!!!
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ROTFLMAO!!!
BINGO! Target was hit. RIGHT ON THE MONEY. 13859
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FINALLY!
YES. It is. The price for being the top dog. I ran my companies. You know what? Not a single damn person wanted to hear excuses. If it's sideways, it's mine to fix. It's MY fault.
thats a ridiculous oversimplification. We have federalism. We have a division of powers. Why do I need to point this out?
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thats a ridiculous oversimplification. We have federalism. We have a division of powers. Why do I need to point this out?
Because it ain't true.
What IS true is that oversimplification. The CEO/COO is the top, and the buck always stops right at the top. It always has, and it always will. That is why it is the most powerful office in the world... Not that that helped poor ol Tumpy. He can't help it...
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I still don't believe the pollsters have good data. Doesn't anyone on the right know of someone that has participated in a recent poll? Everyone I know hangs up on them. Garbage in, garbage out.
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BINGO! Target was hit. RIGHT ON THE MONEY. 13859
NAH. That one blew up right in the barrel.
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I AM an expert and I still think Democrats who voted by mail for the first time, will make mistakes and their ballots will be thrown out.
Are you saying millions of Democrats are too stupid to vote @Victoria33 If so, this may be the truest thing you've ever posted. :yowsa:
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Things are being done. Just not noticed by LEFT, MEDIA, OR hidden. Can we say Biden? JUDICIAL WATCH has been working on this too.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqiDojDExyk#)
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FINALLY!
YES. It is. The price for being the top dog. I ran my companies. You know what? Not a single damn person wanted to hear excuses. If it's sideways, it's mine to fix. It's MY fault.
This is one of those times I really wish the government could be run like a business.
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Are you saying millions of Democrats are too stupid to vote @Victoria33 If so, this may be the truest thing you've ever posted. :yowsa:
:thumbsup:
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Because it ain't true.
What IS true is that oversimplification. The CEO/COO is the top, and the buck always stops right at the top. It always has, and it always will. That is why it is the most powerful office in the world... Not that that helped poor ol Tumpy. He can't help it...
Well whatever helps you make ‘sense’ of things.
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Is this a trannie?
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUfSRB6Qsq4#)
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Sadly after the last Presidential election a few people like me screamed that election fraud must be remedied and not ignored until the last moments. Looks like serious remedies to election fraud was much ignored for YEARS.
Shortly after the last election @christian the Trump administration headed up an effort demanding states clean up their voter rolls. In a nutshell, across the board, states refused since this is the prevue of the states, not the feds.
Regarding this election, the GOP has been dragging states into lower court, appeals courts, and the Supreme Court. We've won seven .. but just lost a big one in Pennsylvania thanks to a 4-4 tie in the SC which allows the lower court ruling in favor of democrats to stand.
No administration has tried harder or been more successful at exposing and stopping democrat voter fraud.
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Well whatever helps you make ‘sense’ of things.
I wonder what it would be like to run a business when you have 535 people you can't fire sitting on the board, and more than half are hostile to your every move, and undermine every one of your decisions? Being mocked as a "Tumpy" probably would not be my biggest headache. :shrug:
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Ok, my last one. It just backs up what I said. Too many corrupt people in America now.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChayHbTPp8k#)
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Well he IS the self-proclaimed 'Great Negotiator'... How's that working out?
Pretty damn well for the American worker. Just ask your horse.
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Federal election commission runs the show...
That's wrong.
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I ran my companies. You know what? Not a single damn person wanted to hear excuses. If it's sideways, it's mine to fix. It's MY fault.
Sure, in bait shops .... but not in publically-held conglomerates with a board of directors.
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The election is only a few weeks away, and polls continue to show a large gap between President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden.
The first line of the article is bullshit. And this was its high point.
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“Politics remains a game of addition. You either broaden your base or turn it out in greater numbers,†Bruce Mehlman, a Republican strategist who has provided quarterly in-depth analyses of presidential races for years, told the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Maybe if Mehlman would put down the crack pipe he'd see what's going on and apologize for taking a salary to hype this rubbish.
This data pointing-down from rallies in Arizona, is being duplicated in every Trump peaceful protest across the nation.
ARIZONA is ready to re-elect @realDonaldTrump!
Prescott Rally:
✅ 22,254 signups
✅ 23.7% NOT Republican
✅ 37.6% did not vote in 2016
Tucson Rally:
✅ 19,291 signups
✅ 28.2% NOT Republican
✅ 28.6% did not vote in 2016
Thank you all for the support!!— Ronna McDaniel (@GOPChairwoman) October 19, 2020
https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1318325746201395202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Meet the true experts: :yowsa:
Dan Scavino
@DanScavino
Happening now in Tucson, Arizona! LET’S GO ARIZONA!! LET’S WIN!!!
Video: https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1318333141409411072
7:28 PM · Oct 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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This is one of those times I really wish the government could be run like a business.
The very same principles apply. Ask Harry Truman.
(https://www.inpoweredtolead.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/H-Truman-buck-stops-here-1024x819.jpg)
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I wonder what it would be like to run a business when you have 535 people you can't fire sitting on the board, and more than half are hostile to your every move, and undermine every one of your decisions? Being mocked as a "Tumpy" probably would not be my biggest headache. :shrug:
The last four years has really adjusted my perspective on the relative power of the executive as an individual.
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I wonder what it would be like to run a business when you have 535 people you can't fire sitting on the board, and more than half are hostile to your every move, and undermine every one of your decisions? Being mocked as a "Tumpy" probably would not be my biggest headache. :shrug:
The same thing that happens on any big project with multiple interests, contractually bound subs, differing schedules, governmental dictates, fiscal operators, and etc.
And the guy on the hook is the main contractor.
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Pretty damn well for the American worker. Just ask your horse.
Not lately, so I wouldn't toot that particular horn so loudly.
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That's wrong.
No, it's not. The FEC is the controlling legal authority.
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Sure, in bait shops .... but not in publically-held conglomerates with a board of directors.
Suuure. When a fortune 500 business is hitting the skids, who do they fire? HINT: CEO/COO/CFO
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The last four years has really adjusted my perspective on the relative power of the executive as an individual.
I never suffered that illusion. Which is why I never put much faith in Tumpy. It's a team game, and half your players are playing for the other side. And the ones that are left aren't playing for what they're supposed to. And Tumpy's skill set is as a chaos player. That does not breed unity and focus.
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I never suffered that illusion. Which is why I never put much faith in Tumpy. It's a team game, and half your players are playing for the other side. And the ones that are left aren't playing for what they're supposed to. And Tumpy's skill set is as a chaos player. That does not breed unity and focus.
Im referring to the unelected career types, mostly. And clearly it’s not Trump’s style that they have a problem with. Gandhi couldn’t breed unity and focus with that bunch unless he could convince them they can continue to dip their beaks.
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Im referring to the unelected career types, mostly. And clearly it’s not Trump’s style that they have a problem with. Gandhi couldn’t breed unity and focus with that bunch unless he could convince them they can continue to dip their beaks.
So am I... Because how you control the bureaucrats is with the Congress and Administration working in unity FOR THE PRINCIPLES you want to push forward.
None of that is happening. Nor predictably, was it going to.
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Suuure. When a fortune 500 business is hitting the skids, who do they fire? HINT: CEO/COO/CFO
I understand, too many dots for you to connect. Bless your heart.
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I never suffered that illusion. Which is why I never put much faith in Tumpy. It's a team game, and half your players are playing for the other side. And the ones that are left aren't playing for what they're supposed to. And Tumpy's skill set is as a chaos player. That does not breed unity and focus.
You really don't care what you say as long as your word salad includes "Trumpy". :silly:
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I understand, too many dots for you to connect. Bless your heart.
Nothing to connect. It ain't complicated.
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Nothing to connect. It ain't complicated.
And just like that --- you prove my point. 88devil
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You really don't care what you say as long as your word salad includes "Trumpy". :silly:
No darlin... It's 'Tumpy'... A 'tump' in redneck dialect is what you've done when you dump something over... And I have never coined a more apt moniker.
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And I have never coined a more apt moniker.
Sorry to hear this. :laugh:
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No, it's not. The FEC is the controlling legal authority.
The FEC controls campaigns, not elections. That is in the purview of the States.
And if government was a business, "Tumpy" could fire Schumer and Pelosi. You can't pound the square peg of your analogy into that round hole. Govenment is not a business, and cannot be run like one. Too many competing interests, and most don't negotiate in good faith. It's always been that way.
Nothing Tumpy will ever do will make you appreciate him. Let's hope you have another four years to criticize his every move and utterance.
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Shortly after the last election @christian the Trump administration headed up an effort demanding states clean up their voter rolls. In a nutshell, across the board, states refused since this is the prevue of the states, not the feds.
Regarding this election, the GOP has been dragging states into lower court, appeals courts, and the Supreme Court. We've won seven .. but just lost a big one in Pennsylvania thanks to a 4-4 tie in the SC which allows the lower court ruling in favor of democrats to stand.
No administration has tried harder or been more successful at exposing and stopping democrat voter fraud.
Yes.
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The FEC controls campaigns, not elections. That is in the purview of the States.
You are right. I cede the point.
And if government was a business, "Tumpy" could fire Schumer and Pelosi.
No, he likely could not.
You can't pound the square peg of your analogy into that round hole. Govenment is not a business, and cannot be run like one. Too many competing interests, and most don't negotiate in good faith. It's always been that way.
That sounds exactly like business to me. Which is why it is so important to adhere to orthodoxy. You get what you allow.
Nothing Tumpy will ever do will make you appreciate him. Let's hope you have another four years to criticize his every move and utterance.
Bullshit. I have praised some of what he has done, and have even defended him from time to time.
But I don't see what you think I should love so much, or why he would be worth another 4 years. And obviously no one else can either, because his accomplishments are never really touted... The whole election is just like the last... Scary Democrats... Everybody's gonna die... We're better than they are.
Meh. Friggin meh.
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People who feel the need to call POTUS TRUMP...Thumpy, show their Trump envy. Trying to put POTUS down, somehow. Otherwise, people would just be mature and call him POTUS or TRUMP. No need to try and demean him. Make a case using the mans correct name.
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People who feel the need to call POTUS TRUMP...Thumpy, show their Trump envy. Trying to put POTUS down, somehow. Otherwise, people would just be mature and call him POTUS or TRUMP. No need to try and demean him. Make a case using the mans correct name.
Good God y'all... It's 'Tumpy'... Sheesh.
And no. I will poke fun and purposefully disrespect him. Respect is earned.
And there is no envy in it at all... Though there has been near revulsion at times.
I am not jealous of a single damn thing Tumpy has. What he is and what he has is the precise opposite of what I want, need, or respect.
I have had money. I have had monetary and business success... Even been in a thousand dollar suit from time to time. I found it shallow and unrewarding. I have no desire for golden toilets and city living. I find all that repulsive. The same with honors and paper on the wall. All shit to me.
So what is it that I am supposed to envy?
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Gerard Baker said it well in this morning's WSJ: post-Trump conservatism will need to be one that "marries the remarkable achievements for conservatives this president has secured in office with a set of values and a rhetoric better suited to sustain those acheivements."
And that will likely be the post mortem for this election. Trump was the right man to lead the revolution but absolutely the wrong one to sustain it. The Dems will gain power by running against a caricature and a bogeyman, even as most agree they are better off than they were four years before.
Trump, the citizen politician, should have passed the baton to a Pence or a Haley that could have focused the electorate on all the good that has been accomplished. No, Trump wants a referendum on himself and the Dems are all too eager to oblige.
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Gerard Baker said it well in this morning's WSJ: post-Trump conservatism will need to be one that "marries the remarkable achievements for conservatives this president has secured in office with a set of valued and a rhetoric better suited to sustain those acheivements."
And that will likely be the post mortem for this election. Trump was the right man to lead the revolution but absolutely the wrong one to sustain it. The Dems will gain power by running against a caricature and a bogeyman, even as most agree they are better off than four years before.
Trump, the citizen politician, should have passed the baton to a Pence or a Haley that could have focused the electorate on all the good that has been accomplished. No, Trump wanted a referendum on himself and the Dems are all too eager to oblige.
The trouble with WSJ's analysis above is had they gotten their way four years ago we would never have had those 'remarkable achievements". IMO the WSJ editorial staff has as much credibility as the type of republican they are inclined to support.
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Well, those remarkable achievements will be gone soon enough, kicked away needlessly and succeeded by an emboldened radicalism.
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Well, those remarkable achievements will be gone soon enough, kicked away needlessly and succeeded by an emboldened radicalism.
You have to believe Trump's personality caused the emboldened radicalism to accept the WSJ's premise.
That is a ridiculous establishment fallacy. Trump's "remarkable achievements" caused their radicalism. Which is why the establishment GOP as represented by the WSJ's editorialists never provoked such a reaction.
Many of them, in fact, share the radicals revulsion with Trump. Now why do you suppose that is?
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@roamer_1
ENOUGH!!!
Why don't you cut your bullshit and stop your trolling??
Don't make me come in here, because I'll have this thread locked in 3-2-1.... :smokin:
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You have to believe Trump's personality caused the emboldened radicalism to accept the WSJ's premise.
That is a ridiculous establishment fallacy. Trump's "remarkable achievements" caused their radicalism. Which is why the establishment GOP as represented by the WSJ's editorialists never provoked such a reaction.
Many of them, in fact, share the radicals revulsion with Trump. Now why do you suppose that is?
No! Trump's acheivements haven't provoked the Dems' radicalism. It is his polarizing style that has turned off voters who would otherwise vote their pocketbooks. The Dems have played smart, nominating the inoffensive Biden, and made him their Trojan horse to install the radical Harris.
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No! Trump's acheivements haven't provoked the Dems' radicalism. It is his polarizing style that has turned off voters who would otherwise vote their pocketbooks. The Dems have played smart, nominating the inoffensive Biden, and made him their Trojan horse to install the radical Harris.
With all due respect that defies all rationality.
Conversely it tracks perfectly with the leftist media narrative. We shall see whether their strategy drives away enough voters for "inoffensive" Biden to slip in.
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Bullshit. I have praised some of what he has done, and have even defended him from time to time.
Really? I can't think of one time you've praised him without finding some way of balancing it with something to run him down at the same time. Maybe you could refresh my memory?
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No! Trump's acheivements haven't provoked the Dems' radicalism. It is his polarizing style that has turned off voters who would otherwise vote their pocketbooks. The Dems have played smart, nominating the inoffensive Biden, and made him their Trojan horse to install the radical Harris.
You keep assuring us that Trump will lose. I would remind you there is only one vote (out of over 100 Million) you can say you know about with certainty. Outside of that, you only know what the press tells you, and not a whit more.
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@roamer_1
ENOUGH!!!
Why don't you cut your bullshit and stop your trolling??
Don't make me come in here, because I'll have this thread locked in 3-2-1.... :smokin:
Naw. I'd rather stuff it into Cheeseville.
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Really? I can't think of one time you've praised him without finding some way of balancing it with something to run him down at the same time. Maybe you could refresh my memory?
@Cyber Liberty
Don't hold your breath waiting. FOS is FOS.
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Really? I can't think of one time you've praised him without finding some way of balancing it with something to run him down at the same time. Maybe you could refresh my memory?
:pop41:
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@Victoria33 isn't it up to the precinct captain to determine which ballots are thrown out? If the precinct captain leans DEM, don't you think that it is a possibility that they would likely make exceptions??
@libertybele
I just found this post of yours. Mail ballots don't go to a precinct judge. They are mailed or taken to a mail drop off box, and go to the courthouse where the elections administrator is.
How a precinct judge is appointed:
In a precinct, in the last election for governor, a Republican governor won in that precinct, the judge is a Republican. So, in Texas, in the vast majority of precincts, the judge is a Republican. The alternate judge will be a Democrat.
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There's another article posted here concurrently reporting there have been 300k+ ballots already been rejected in Pennsylvania.
@skeeter
Dear skeeter, Could you find that and send me the link? I want to read that.
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@skeeter
Dear skeeter, Could you find that and send me the link? I want to read that.
Here y'go... http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417495.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417495.0.html)
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@skeeter
Dear skeeter, Could you find that and send me the link? I want to read that.
I believe that those were actually duplicate requests for ballots that were rejected.
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Here y'go... http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417495.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,417495.0.html)
From your own link those were not ballots that were rejected. They were duplicate requests for ballots.
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Theres not much the president can do about CAs motor voter laws, unsolicited ballot mass mailings and ballot harvesting rules.
@skeeter
California motor voter is like this:
If one goes to a state building for a driver's license or to renew one, or for a ID card, he/she is asked if they want to register to be a voter. If the person does, an application to be a voter is filled out - that application goes to the State Director of Elections, and it is checked to determine if the person is allowed to be a voter. If he/she is, the name and details are sent to the county where the voter lives and the name is put on the county voter list.
"unsolicited ballot mass mailings and ballot harvesting rules."
In both cases, mail ballots come in. No matter how they got there, each one is examined to determine if the ballot materials are correct. If they are not, the ballot is rejected.
In most cases, fraud people will screw up the ballot materials and the ballots will be rejected. (psst: don't tell the fraud people how to correctly send in the mail ballots)
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From your own link those were not ballots that were rejected. They were duplicate requests for ballots.
Right. I wasn't trying to make any point, just sharing an article.
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Right. I wasn't trying to make any point, just sharing an article.
One could phrase it: "300K were prevented from illegally voting."
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California motor voter is like this:
If one goes to a state building for a driver's license or to renew one, or for a ID card, he/she is asked if they want to register to be a voter. If the person does, an application to be a voter is filled out - that application goes to the State Director of Elections, and it is checked to determine if the person is allowed to be a voter. If he/she is, the name and details are sent to the county where the voter lives and the name is put on the county voter list.
"unsolicited ballot mass mailings and ballot harvesting rules."
In both cases, mail ballots come in. No matter how they got there, each one is examined to determine if the ballot materials are correct. If they are not, the ballot is rejected.
In most cases, fraud people will screw up the ballot materials and the ballots will be rejected. (psst: don't tell the fraud people how to correctly send in the mail ballots)
What criteria is applied by the California Director of Elections to determine whether an applicant from the DMV is eligible to vote?
My mother in law recounted how a very nice young lady showed up at her retirement community to 'help' the residents fill out and sign their ballots. That kind of help is happening on a massive scale in California, its a cynical manipulation of the system and you can see its ultimate results when you visit any large California community, save perhaps San Diego.
I believe when each voter has to actually apply themselves - learn the issues and candidates and actually get up off their arse and go to the polls in order to exercise their civic duty - the results are much more amenable to our form of government and liberties.
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One could phrase it: "300K were prevented from illegally voting."
Yep. 375k ballots that would have otherwise helped select the winner.
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@roamer_1
ENOUGH!!!
Why don't you cut your bullshit and stop your trolling??
Don't make me come in here, because I'll have this thread locked in 3-2-1.... :smokin:
@DCPatriot
Why don't YOU??
Every time, no rebuttal... Just drive by and throw poo.
You got nothin.
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You keep assuring us that Trump will lose. I would remind you there is only one vote (out of over 100 Million) you can say you know about with certainty. Outside of that, you only know what the press tells you, and not a whit more.
I'm not "assuring" anyone, and I hope he can pull off an upset. But I can see what's going down. The problem isn't Trump's policies, it is antipathy toward Trump himself, ginned up to be sure by an unrelentingly hostile press pushing the narrative of a return to "normalcy".
Some normalcy - court packing, tax hikes, more lockdowns, the triumph of socialism. Sure wish we could run against all that and not have to defend Trump's gosh-damn tweetstorms.
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I'm not "assuring" anyone, and I hope he can pull off an upset. But I can see what's going down. The problem isn't Trump's policies, it is antipathy toward Trump himself, ginned up to be sure by an unrelentingly hostile press pushing the narrative of a return to "normalcy".
Some normalcy - court packing, tax hikes, more lockdowns, the triumph of socialism. Sure wish we could run against all that and not have to defend Trump's gosh-damn tweetstorms.
But for his "tweetstorms," you would know nothing because President Clinton would never let you find out.
You have been claiming for years that Trump cannot be reelected, after telling us he could not have been elected in the first place. Your batting average is .000.
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Really? I can't think of one time you've praised him without finding some way of balancing it with something to run him down at the same time. Maybe you could refresh my memory?
Reasonably *for* Amy Coney Barrett...Hopeful there.
Good pro-life moves, though largely typical... still for that.
Israel comes immediately to mind. Directly happy with the embassy move.
Defended him at the start of the Wuhan... Till he folded. But I backed him off the front.
Defended direct action taken to deliver masks by allowing 3m to sell their industrial n95 for med purposes Generally for his forward (preliminary) actions wrt Wuhan... It was the shut down that pissed me off.
For his initial moves on the wall.
Generally for his oil moves. For keystone. For releasing federal lands in AK
Tax cut was great - Needed to be followed with spending cuts, which is my bitch, but I was for the tax cut when it happened.
And there is more.
It's all in the record right here. However, most of it doesn't count. Most of what he has done that I am *FOR*, and even defended are, in the end, EOs and temporary anyway. Positive, fine. But worth nothing in the long game. Candy from the front of the parade.
In that, you're right. But there ain't a damn thing I can do to make that somehow better. It's all worthless in the end. Gone. And the shit he did is written in law.
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What criteria is applied by the California Director of Elections to determine whether an applicant from the DMV is eligible to vote? My mother in law recounted how a very nice young lady showed up at her retirement community to 'help' the residents fill out and sign their ballots. That kind of help is happening on a massive scale in California, its a cynical manipulation of the system and you can see its ultimate results when you visit any large California community, save perhaps San Diego. I believe when each voter has to actually apply themselves - learn the issues and candidates and actually get up off their arse and go to the polls in order to exercise their civic duty - the results are much more amenable to our form of government and liberties.
@skeeter
Have to talk to son, Wayne, at 1 pm today, it is 11:43 am right now. After I talk to him, will look up California law specific to your two questions, but here are the answers:
When an application to be a voter comes into the Secretary of State, Elections Division, the name is checked for correct address, whether applicant is a felon, any Passport is checked, name is compared to death certificates, whether applicant is legally in the United States. If the voter passes this check, the Elections Division contacts the county in which he/she lives and the name is added to the voter list.
Nursing Homes:
Remember, just because a ballot comes in, does not mean it is counted.
It is illegal to help more than one person fill out his/her ballot, unless the helper is kin to them. On the ballot or on the ballot materials, it asks for the name of the helper, both in printing and in signature and address is required. This is the reason the District Attorney of the county where I lived, tried to get me out of being the Early Voting Ballot Board Judge - my board, half Democrat and half Republicans, tossed out nursing home ballots.
The county had never followed the law about nursing home ballots. This case against me went to our State Attorney General, who was John Cornyn. After a six month wait, he ruled in my favor, which I knew he would.
Back to nursing homes:
The Democrats, always them, who went to the nursing homes to "help" residents vote, did not fill out the required personal information about themselves, and some put their name on there, so we had many that showed this person had helped many residents, and the law is the helper can only help one. So, we threw those ballots out. I was that Judge for many years. The county District Attorney was beaten at his next election, and he blamed me for his loss. But, I went to him at the beginning when he started after me, and told him not to do it because he was wrong. He said he was doing it.
Later today, will find the actual California laws regarding these two matters.
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Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Let's say that @roamer_1 doesn't vote for Trump. Does that mean Biden wins Montana's three electoral votes? Keep in mind that Trump won by over 20% in 2016.
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Don't make me come in here, because I'll have this thread locked in 3-2-1.... :smokin:
This is true. Getting threads locked is one of @DCPatriot 's best talents.
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@skeeter
Have to talk to son, Wayne, at 1 pm today, it is 11:43 am right now. After I talk to him, will look up California law specific to your two questions, but here are the answers:
When an application to be a voter comes into the Secretary of State, Elections Division, the name is checked for correct address, whether applicant is a felon, any Passport is checked, name is compared to death certificates, whether applicant is legally in the United States. If the voter passes this check, the Elections Division contacts the county in which he/she lives and the name is added to the voter list.
Nursing Homes:
Remember, just because a ballot comes in, does not mean it is counted.
It is illegal to help more than one person fill out his/her ballot, unless the helper is kin to them. On the ballot or on the ballot materials, it asks for the name of the helper, both in printing and in signature and address is required. This is the reason the District Attorney of the county where I lived, tried to get me out of being the Early Voting Ballot Board Judge - my board, half Democrat and half Republicans, tossed out nursing home ballots.
The county had never followed the law about nursing home ballots. This case against me went to our State Attorney General, who was John Cornyn. After a six month wait, he ruled in my favor, which I knew he would.
Back to nursing homes:
The Democrats, always them, who went to the nursing homes to "help" residents vote, did not fill out the required personal information about themselves, and some put their name on there, so we had many that showed this person had helped many residents, and the law is the helper can only help one. So, we threw those ballots out. I was that Judge for many years. The county District Attorney was beaten at his next election, and he blamed me for his loss. But, I went to him at the beginning when he started after me, and told him not to do it because he was wrong. He said he was doing it.
Later today, will find the actual California laws regarding these two matters.
Thanks for the information. All I can say is I wish I had your faith in our system.
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Thanks for the information. All I can say is I wish I had your faith in our system.
@skeeter
The state "has rejected 372,000 requests for mail-in ballots," with "more than 90% of those applications, or about 336,000," occurring due to duplicate requests, ProPublica reported this week.
Thanks for that link. Here is what happened:
"According to ProPublica, the significant number of duplicate applications came about largely due to voters having requested a general election ballot during the state's primary election as well as closer to the general election itself."
Let's look at how this happened.
When filling out an application for mail ballot in a primary, the form has a place to check if you want a mail ballot for the general election. That means you will automatically get a mail ballot for the general election.
Then the voter doesn't think about that as the general election approaches, so voter sends in application for general election ballot. That is how these voters got two ballots. If they completed two ballots, that would get caught when a board checks ballots. The one requested for the general election would be thrown out and the first one the voter voted, would be counted if the correct info. is on it.
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@skeeter
"Thanks for the information. All I can say is I wish I had your faith in our system."
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After so many years working in elections in Texas and I helped Florida in their election mess between Bush and Gore, I know how elections work behind the scenes. There are many checks and balances so it is difficult for fraud to actually work.
I taught "Texas Election Code" in numerous counties. I had to know that election code book in detail in order to teach it. I knew the Texas State Director of Elections, and we were buddies making sure our Texas elections were done correctly.
One more thing, if you are going to play the game of politics/elections, you have to know the rules to win. The rules are that State's Election Code.
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Massive voter fraud ongoing in Houston, Texas.....
and that is just one city.
Biden’s Texas Political Director Implicated in Massive Mail-In Ballot Harvesting Scheme in Harris County
https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/28/bidens-texas-political-director-implicated-in-massive-mail-in-ballot-harvesting-scheme-in-harris-county/
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I'm not "assuring" anyone, and I hope he can pull off an upset. But I can see what's going down. The problem isn't Trump's policies, it is antipathy toward Trump himself, ginned up to be sure by an unrelentingly hostile press pushing the narrative of a return to "normalcy".
Some normalcy - court packing, tax hikes, more lockdowns, the triumph of socialism. Sure wish we could run against all that and not have to defend Trump's gosh-damn tweetstorms.
What? POTUS TRUMP..is just fine the way he is. He did not create anything evil....HE JUST OUTED IT. The evil has been here for DECADES! OBAMA PROMOTED ALL THAT EVIL. Obama even funded some RIOTS..like in Ferguson.
Chicago. Then Baltimore. Why would you be against POTUS TRUMP? ZERO WRONG with his tweets too. LEFT MEDIA, distorts his words, his accomplishments, anything POSITIVE he has done for America. Tweeting allows him to tell the real truth, and LEFT MEDIA is who started the 'ISSUE" with his tweeting. You fell, right into that dogma. Below, ties into the case FOR POTUS TRUMP. 3 Noble Peace prize nominations for POTUS TRUMP, with brining peace to M.E. Is MEDIA DOING HAND STANDS ABOUT THAT? He had another nomination, last year from Japan.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEXL5USuDGI#)
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Right. I wasn't trying to make any point, just sharing an article.
BIDENS..hand on that man's knee, just UNNERVES ME! WHAT A CREEP! Same with pedo, Hunter, just like dad.
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Let me play devil's advocate here for a moment. Let's say that @roamer_1 doesn't vote for Trump. Does that mean Biden wins Montana's three electoral votes? Keep in mind that Trump won by over 20% in 2016.
That's not the point here. I live in Maryland where my single GOP vote means squat in a presidential election.
But I, and anybody else who decides to take him on with sound valid reasons for their supporting the POTUS is meant with "meh"...going on 5 years here.
He's a one-trick pony (fiscal conservatism), ignoring the stark contrast in the difference in the two parties' platform. He'd rather pontificate...preach.
We need this election to save the Republic. And make no mistake @Hoodat . Despite your dislike of me, electing Donald Trump in 2016 saved the Republic. [see Supreme Court].
Nobody would be talking about "stacking the court" if it was Hillary Clinton's three nominations/judges sitting on the court today.
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He's a one-trick pony (fiscal conservatism), ignoring the stark contrast in the difference in the two parties' platform. He'd rather pontificate...preach.
No @DCPatriot ... The emphasis on fiscal conservatism is simply the most grievous and blatant betrayal of Conservative principles... I simply cannot vote for him AT ALL, because I will not throw FICONS under the bus... I made that vow 40 years ago, and I will not break it for the supposed expediency of the hour.
I can wreck him from every conservative position if you'd like. So face it, He is not conservative, nor is this about conservatism, but rather 'the stark contrast in the difference of the two party's platforms'... which as an argument concedes that it isn't about conservatism... and IS about scary democrats... As always.
I don't scare. I will never vote in fear.
And since that does not work, and it ain't about conservatism, why the hell would you think I would vote for it?
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That's not the point here. I live in Maryland where my single GOP vote doesn't mean squat in a presidential election.
But I, and anybody else who decides to take him on with sound valid reasons for their supporting the POTUS is meant with "meh"...going on 5 years here.
He's a one-trick pony (fiscal conservatism), ignoring the stark contrast in the difference in the two parties' platform. He'd rather pontificate...preach.
We need this election to save the Republic. And make no mistake @Hoodat . Despite your
dislike of me, electing Donald Trump in 2016 saved the Republic. [see Supreme Court].
Nobody would be talking about "stacking the court" if it was Hillary Clinton's three nominations/judges sitting on the court today.
:thumbsup:
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If people who live in America, can't SEE, why they need to vote for POTUS TRUMP, it means to me, they are left leaners. Something not 'right' in their thinking. Anyone, "RIGHT", knows we need to save the REPUBLIC and it is not about how any LEFTS, FEELINGS....FEEL...or how they have TRUMP ENVY. IT IS ABOUT SAVING AMERICA. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. You either suck it up, vote for AMERICA or you will NOT have an America. Why does this even have to be said? It is obvious to me.
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If people who live in America, can't SEE, why they need to vote for POTUS TRUMP, it means to me, they are left leaners. Something not 'right' in their thinking. Anyone, "RIGHT", knows we need to save the REPUBLIC and it is not about how any LEFTS, FEELINGS....FEEL...or how they have TRUMP ENVY. IT IS ABOUT SAVING AMERICA. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. You either suck it up, vote for AMERICA or you will NOT have an America. Why does this even have to be said? It is obvious to me.
Oh horseshit. Now it's down to 'Because 'Murica' *****rollingeyes*****
What sophomoric crap.
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Oh horseshit. Now it's down to 'Because 'Murica' *****rollingeyes*****
What sophomoric crap.
888high58888 The only guarantee that I see is that Biden will take us towards socialism. No other guarantees. I do see a slight glimmer of hope with Trump -- but certainly no guarantee, especially if the GOP loses the Senate, which is looking likely.
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There is NO "SELF INFLICTED WOUND'. by POTUS. EVERY ARTICLE BY COMMUNIST MEDIA IS NEGATIVE. ALWAYS.
SOROS AND other LEFTS are behind this. I am personally sick of it. POTUS TRUMP IS THE BEST. FOR AMERICA.
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888high58888 The only guarantee that I see is that Biden will take us towards socialism. No other guarantees. I do see a slight glimmer of hope with Trump -- but certainly no guarantee, especially if the GOP loses the Senate, which is looking likely.
Yep... But we are going toward socialism ANYWAY. Anyone defending this administration must in the end explain the massive spending, and somehow justify it as 'not socialism'. Which is impossible. the only reason to spend all that money is big.gov, and big.gov IS socialism, one way or another.
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Oh horseshit. Now it's down to 'Because 'Murica' *****rollingeyes*****
What sophomoric crap.
It is the truth. It ALWAYS, was about saving America. You didn't know that? MAGA. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
But you prefer communism to capitalism. The fact, you had to go vulgar, in posting to me, just proves my point, even more. OF COURSE IT IS ABOUT AMERICA. DUH. Where you been? You support OMAR, AOC, PRESSLEY, HARRIS? ALL COMMUNISTS.
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Yep... But we are going toward socialism ANYWAY. Anyone defending this administration must in the end explain the massive spending, and somehow justify it as 'not socialism'. Which is impossible. the only reason to spend all that money is big.gov, and big.gov IS socialism, one way or another.
IOW, if this election were a battle to take a hill suffering hundreds of casualties with no guarantee of success, you'd cut and run... then be executed for cowardice in the face of the Enemy.
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It is the truth. It ALWAYS, was about saving America. You didn't know that? MAGA. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
But you prefer communism to capitalism. The fact, you had to go vulgar, in posting to me, just proves my point, even more. OF COURSE IT IS ABOUT AMERICA. DUH. Where you been? You support OMAR, AOC, PRESSLEY, HARRIS? ALL COMMUNISTS.
No it's not. It's about big, big government. And a stolen slogan means nothing.
The bet now is going to be if he can spend TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS by the end of the year. I think he can get it done, whether he is reelected or not. *****rollingeyes*****
woohoo1 *****rollingeyes*****
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IOW, if this election were a battle to take a hill suffering hundreds of casualties with no guarantee of success, you'd cut and run... then be executed for cowardice in the face of the Enemy.
@DCPatriot
Nope. Because I ain't in your dumbass army.
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@roamer_1
Just for you.... :laugh:
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Yep... But we are going toward socialism ANYWAY. Anyone defending this administration must in the end explain the massive spending, and somehow justify it as 'not socialism'. Which is impossible. the only reason to spend all that money is big.gov, and big.gov IS socialism, one way or another.
As sad as I am to say this...it supersedes government spending. Our young people are being indoctrinated. They truly think the government is Uncle Sugar Daddy. Sure, a lot of our generation may have been liberal back in the day. But most changed as they aged. I don't see that happening with the younger folks. I do see a lot of "free, free, free" mentality. Of course it ain't free...but these unenlightened idgits think it is.
If we were actuality able to find a true conservative the Dems would run an "I'll give you every thing you need" candidate*...and we would lose. And I also think that a person that would do the best things for this country...wouldn't run. I don't blame them. Nobody wants to do what needs to be done...or can. The best than we can hope for is delay and maybe the time to prepare.
*Obama will pay my rent and buy my gas lady.
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Yep... But we are going toward socialism ANYWAY. Anyone defending this administration must in the end explain the massive spending, and somehow justify it as 'not socialism'. Which is impossible. the only reason to spend all that money is big.gov, and big.gov IS socialism, one way or another.
I haven't researched it, but I'd like to see the figures on Trump's spending vs. $$ coming into this country before COVID hit -- certainly throwing $$ at COVID (and in many instances a]it was a necessity) is a big part of the picture.
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As sad as I am to say this...it supersedes government spending. Our young people are being indoctrinated. They truly think the government is Uncle Sugar Daddy. Sure, a lot of our generation may have been liberal back in the day. But most changed as they aged. I don't see that happening with the younger folks. I do see a lot of "free, free, free" mentality. Of course it ain't free...but these unenlightened idgits think it is.
If we were actuality able to find a true conservative the Dems would run an "I'll give you every thing you need" candidate*...and we would lose. And I also think that a person that would do the best things for this country...wouldn't run. I don't blame them. Nobody wants to do what needs to be done...or can. The best than we can hope for is delay and maybe the time to prepare.
*Obama will pay my rent and buy my gas lady.
See @berdie , I see that differently. WHY is there no official opposition to that indoctrination? And there is NONE. I think that is on purpose... Folks point at the eeeevil democrats to keep you from worrying about your own house. To keep you from wondering how it is even through years when Republicans had all houses, nothing... NOTHING got fixed.
I say it's well past time to put our own house in order and quit succumbing to fear and settling for lesser evil.
The reason the Democrats are winning is not by merit. There is no merit.
So the only other reason can only be that they have no opposition.
Worry less about what democrats do and more about why Republicans have allowed it, and maybe then you'll start to see my angle on things, and why it is so very important to move back toward Conservative orthodoxy. And why I refuse to settle for less.
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@DCPatriot
Nope. Because I ain't in your dumbass army.
@roamer_1
No... you're a draft dodger hiding out in Montana wiping your ass with rhubarb.
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I haven't researched it, but I'd like to see the figures on Trump's spending vs. $$ coming into this country before COVID hit -- certainly throwing $$ at COVID (and in many instances a]it was a necessity) is a big part of the picture.
He was already outspending Obummer before the Woohan hit. by nearing double.
And there is some complicity thereafter - He's part and parcel of the shutdown and so he bears responsibility in that extra cost and the destruction of the market which drove the covid spending.
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Reasonably *for* Amy Coney Barrett...Hopeful there.
Good pro-life moves, though largely typical... still for that.
Israel comes immediately to mind. Directly happy with the embassy move.
Defended him at the start of the Wuhan... Till he folded. But I backed him off the front.
Defended direct action taken to deliver masks by allowing 3m to sell their industrial n95 for med purposes Generally for his forward (preliminary) actions wrt Wuhan... It was the shut down that pissed me off.
For his initial moves on the wall.
Generally for his oil moves. For keystone. For releasing federal lands in AK
Tax cut was great - Needed to be followed with spending cuts, which is my bitch, but I was for the tax cut when it happened.
And there is more.
It's all in the record right here. However, most of it doesn't count. Most of what he has done that I am *FOR*, and even defended are, in the end, EOs and temporary anyway. Positive, fine. But worth nothing in the long game. Candy from the front of the parade.
In that, you're right. But there ain't a damn thing I can do to make that somehow better. It's all worthless in the end. Gone. And the shit he did is written in law.
That may all be true @roamer_1 (and I believe it) BUT what negates all of that is that you call Trump ~ Tumpy!!!! :tongue2:
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Alrighty then...I guess it's time..