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Title: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 04:53:40 pm
WASHINGTON — Roy Moore, the Republican front-runner in next week’s special Senate election in Alabama, referred to "reds and yellows fighting" in a campaign speech, a video shows.

Moore, the ultra-conservative former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, lamented racial divisions in his remarks on Sunday.

"We have blacks and whites fighting, reds and yellows fighting, Democrats and Republicans fighting, men and women fighting," he said.

"Red" and "yellow" are widely recognized as racial slurs.

Video of Moore's speech was made public by a Republican tracking the race and first reported by The Hill. NBC News also obtained the video.

Responding to criticism about his remarks on Facebook late Monday, Moore quoted the popular Bible school song, “Jesus Loves the Little Children," written in the 1800's.
"Red, yellow, black and white they are precious in His sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world. This is the Gospel. If we take it seriously, America can once again be united as one nation under God," Moore said.

Polls show Moore leading Sen. Luther Strange, the Republican appointed to the seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions this year, in Tuesday’s Republican primary runoff. Moore and Strange will hold their first debate Thursday.

President Donald Trump is supporting Strange and will campaign for him on Saturday, though many conservative figures have lined up behind Moore, who is running as an anti-establishment firebrand.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/alabama-gop-senate-candidate-says-reds-yellows-are-fighting-n802461?cid=eml_onsite
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 04:54:59 pm
The article from NBC goes on to claim that Moore said the 9-11 attacks were punishment from God.

Not sure I believe that.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: TomSea on September 19, 2017, 04:55:48 pm
I don't really see those as "racial slurs"; perhaps they are. I could see someone saying them and them not being necessarily racist.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: RAT Patrol on September 19, 2017, 05:07:40 pm
LOLOL.  This is all they've got?  Anyone who went to Sunday School as a child immediately understood even before the explanation.  "Red and yellow, black and white, all are precious in His sight....Jesus loves the little children of the world.  If that is racist according to the left then they need to get reeducated again.  As it is, they are merely displaying their own prejudice against all things Christian.  Moore scares them.  Or in liberal speak, they've got Moorephobia.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 19, 2017, 05:11:23 pm
LOLOL.  This is all they've got?  Anyone who went to Sunday School as a child immediately understood even before the explanation.  "Red and yellow, black and white, all are precious in His sight....Jesus loves the little children of the world.  If that is racist according to the left then they need to get reeducated again.  As it is, they are merely displaying their own prejudice against all things Christian.  Moore scares them.  Or in liberal speak, they've got Moorephobia.
Moore scares the bejeebers out of them. Invoking that Jesus loves them all is even worse, considering the Left wants to keep shredding them and selling the parts.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: ABX on September 19, 2017, 05:16:46 pm
The article from NBC goes on to claim that Moore said the 9-11 attacks were punishment from God.

Not sure I believe that.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/roy-moore-us-has-asked-for-shootings-and-killings-god
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/roy-moore-suggested-september-11-was-divine-punishment

Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 19, 2017, 05:25:34 pm
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/roy-moore-us-has-asked-for-shootings-and-killings-god
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/roy-moore-suggested-september-11-was-divine-punishment
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“This iniquity will be to you as a breach ready to fall, swell out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instance,” Moore quoted, and added his own annotation: “Sounds a little bit like the Pentagon, whose breaking came suddenly at an instance, doesn’t it?”

“You know, we’ve suffered a lot in this country, maybe, just maybe, because we’ve distanced ourselves from the one that has it within his hands to heal this land,” he added.

The remarks were similar to comments Moore made in a speech at Georgetown in January 2003, as CNN noted, where he cited the Book of Isaiah foretold a “day of great slaughter when the towers fall.”

Okay, he cited Isaiah. He mentioned that some of what this country is suffering may be because we have distanced ourselves from The Almighty (and the principles He would have us live by).

Not the same thing as saying 9/11 was God punishing us.

But with some folks "suggested" is a refuge when they can't say "said".
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 05:49:10 pm
I'm still wondering why Trump is supporting Strange, who is weak on illegal immigration.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 05:49:57 pm
LOLOL.  This is all they've got?  Anyone who went to Sunday School as a child immediately understood even before the explanation.  "Red and yellow, black and white, all are precious in His sight....Jesus loves the little children of the world.  If that is racist according to the left then they need to get reeducated again.  As it is, they are merely displaying their own prejudice against all things Christian.  Moore scares them.  Or in liberal speak, they've got Moorephobia.

I must have heard that song a hundred times in Sunday School.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 19, 2017, 06:28:05 pm
He is nothing more than a media whore who was also a birther.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: driftdiver on September 19, 2017, 06:31:17 pm
Well yes Democrat is a slur but a deserved one
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 06:42:05 pm
He is nothing more than a media whore who was also a birther.

Pronouns, Kevin, pronouns.

We've been talking about two different people here.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Mom MD on September 19, 2017, 06:45:56 pm
I'm still wondering why Trump is supporting Strange, who is weak on illegal immigration.

Because trump has proven himself weak on illegal immigration as well  All talk and no action.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 06:56:32 pm
Because trump has proven himself weak on illegal immigration as well  All talk and no action.

Yeah, he's let us down on that a bit lately.  I'm still hoping he'll come around.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2017, 07:25:19 pm
LOLOL.  This is all they've got?  Anyone who went to Sunday School as a child immediately understood even before the explanation.  "Red and yellow, black and white, all are precious in His sight....Jesus loves the little children of the world.  If that is racist according to the left then they need to get reeducated again.  As it is, they are merely displaying their own prejudice against all things Christian.  Moore scares them.  Or in liberal speak, they've got Moorephobia.

I'm with you on this one as far as what Judge Moore said being a racial slur.

But as we've seen in the past with George Allen in Virginia and a couple other races, certain people...most times DemocRAT (remember that one?) will take the smallest thing and suddenly make it a racial "slur"

But in all honesty...in this case...it wouldn't surprise me if McConnell is behind the "leak" of the video tape.  He's hand picked Luther strange and has threatened any consultant or ad agency with permanent banishment from any GOP business going forward if they work for Judge Moore.

Ol Turtle is a dirty tricks kinda guy every bit as good as his Dem counterparts.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2017, 07:27:10 pm
I'm still wondering why Trump is supporting Strange, who is weak on illegal immigration.

Because that's who McConnell is backing with his NRSC slush fund...and Strange is guaranteed to vote any way McConnell wants him to if he wins the election.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 07:34:08 pm
I'm with you on this one as far as what Judge Moore said being a racial slur.

But as we've seen in the past with George Allen in Virginia and a couple other races, certain people...most times DemocRAT (remember that one?) will take the smallest thing and suddenly make it a racial "slur"

But in all honesty...in this case...it wouldn't surprise me if McConnell is behind the "leak" of the video tape.  He's hand picked Luther strange and has threatened any consultant or ad agency with permanent banishment from any GOP business going forward if they work for Judge Moore.

Ol Turtle is a dirty tricks kinda guy every bit as good as his Dem counterparts.

Ol Turtle could get in the ring with Schumer any day in the week.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 07:35:17 pm
Because that's who McConnell is backing with his NRSC slush fund...and Strange is guaranteed to vote any way McConnell wants him to if he wins the election.

That's why I'm backing the other guy.  And, remember, the actual election is today even though it's not scheduled till December.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: txradioguy on September 19, 2017, 07:37:55 pm
Ol Turtle could get in the ring with Schumer any day in the week.

He probably taught Schumer a thing or two about dirty politics.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 19, 2017, 08:22:14 pm
I guess the Lakota Medicine Wheel is racist, too.

(http://aktalakota.stjo.org/images/content/pagebuilder/wheel2.gif)

Who knew?  :shrug:
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Emjay on September 19, 2017, 08:31:55 pm
I guess the Lakota Medicine Wheel is racist, too.

(http://aktalakota.stjo.org/images/content/pagebuilder/wheel2.gif)

Who knew?  :shrug:

Along with cotton balls.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: DiogenesLamp on September 19, 2017, 08:56:49 pm
I don't really see those as "racial slurs"; perhaps they are. I could see someone saying them and them not being necessarily racist.

Jesus loves the little children

All the children of the world

Red, brown, yellow

Black and white

They are precious in His sight.

Jesus loves the little children

Of the world.


http://childbiblesongs.com/song-30-jesus-loves-the-little-children.shtml

Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 19, 2017, 09:05:58 pm
I'm still wondering why Trump is supporting Strange, who is weak on illegal immigration.
I believe Trump is attempting to get Senate support in his various endeavors.  Strange is already part of 'The Club' due to his appointment to replace Sessions.

The Senate remains the club with the highest prestige in the land.

Here in Texas, David Dewhurst was the appointed successor of the Establishment to Hutchison when she retired.  The GOP went 'All In' to support him, spending 10x as much as the guy who won, Ted Cruz - the outsider.

I see the same thing happening here.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Sanguine on September 19, 2017, 09:37:25 pm
I believe Trump is attempting to get Senate support in his various endeavors.  Strange is already part of 'The Club' due to his appointment to replace Sessions.

The Senate remains the club with the highest prestige in the land.

Here in Texas, David Dewhurst was the appointed successor of the Establishment to Hutchison when she retired.  The GOP went 'All In' to support him, spending 10x as much as the guy who won, Ted Cruz - the outsider.

I see the same thing happening here.

I sure hope so.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on September 20, 2017, 01:03:23 am
I sure hope so.
Well, while I hope Moore wins, I was really just speaking about the reason Trump is supporting Strange.

Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: TomSea on September 20, 2017, 01:08:45 am
Mo Brooks I believe was the one to vote for in the initial ballot,

They said Mo Brooks would have defeated Moore but that Moore would defeat Luther Strange.

But that's a bit beside the point, Moore served in Vietnam, I see him as outspoken, I don't see him necessarily as someone seeking attention.

This is a bit off topic though from the original quote, I don't see any real wrong in the original words.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Fishrrman on September 20, 2017, 01:52:23 am
This article is from NBC news, the
Nuthin'
But
Communism
network.

But what plays to their audiences in places other than Alabama, don't play so well down there.

I sense this won't hurt Judge Moore's chances at all.

May even help a little...  ;)
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Hoodat on September 20, 2017, 04:29:32 am
I'm still wondering why Trump is supporting Strange, who is weak on illegal immigration.

Trump is supporting Strange because Strange is the Establishment candidate straight out of the K-Street swamp.  It's what Trump does.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 20, 2017, 12:49:17 pm
Trump is supporting Strange because Strange is the Establishment candidate straight out of the K-Street swamp.  It's what Trump does.


and Bannon supports Moore.. Good enough reason for me to back Strange if I was in Alabama.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Sanguine on September 20, 2017, 01:00:36 pm

and Bannon supports Moore.. Good enough reason for me to back Strange if I was in Alabama.

Really?  That's all it takes?  No thinking involved in making an informed decision? 
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2017, 01:00:45 pm

and Bannon supports Moore.. Good enough reason for me to back Strange if I was in Alabama.

So the fact that Strange will back McConnell and vote how he's told...even if it is a vote in favor of Liberal socialist BS doesn't bother you?

What about the fact that McConnell has threatened and bullied any consulting firm thinking about doing business with anyone but Luther Strange?

A vote for Strange is a strange vote indeed since he's just going to support the same old crap in DC.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: TomSea on September 20, 2017, 01:15:09 pm
I like and respect Roy Moore but with such rhetoric being bandied about, expect one more opinionated Senator who likely won't get a lot done. If one calls doing nothing conservatism, then have at it.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Sanguine on September 20, 2017, 01:18:46 pm
I like and respect Roy Moore but with such rhetoric being bandied about, expect one more opinionated Senator who likely won't get a lot done. If one calls doing nothing conservatism, then have at it.

Tom, what does that mean?
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 20, 2017, 01:28:51 pm
Really?  That's all it takes?  No thinking involved in making an informed decision?


Yep, cause Bannon is no Conservative.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 20, 2017, 01:29:39 pm
So the fact that Strange will back McConnell and vote how he's told...even if it is a vote in favor of Liberal socialist BS doesn't bother you?

What about the fact that McConnell has threatened and bullied any consulting firm thinking about doing business with anyone but Luther Strange?

A vote for Strange is a strange vote indeed since he's just going to support the same old crap in DC.


I like McConnell. I just don't like loser blowhards like Moore.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: TomSea on September 20, 2017, 01:33:17 pm
Tom, what does that mean?

The American people don't elect officials for gridlock.

Yes, during Obama's presidency, we wanted to stop what he would have done but it didn't stop him all that well per executive orders.

I think the American people, not all, do wish to see Washington actually work and get things done.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Hoodat on September 20, 2017, 01:34:58 pm
Tom, what does that mean?

It means Tom is backing the GOP Establishment.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2017, 01:36:43 pm

I like McConnell. I just don't like loser blowhards like Moore.

Then why are you here?  Because clearly a meeting spot for Conservatives isn't for you.

You like a guy who did everything he could to ram Obama's agenda down our throats.  Colluded with Big Ears during Congressional recess' and undermined Conservatives in the senate at every turn.

And you have no problem with that?
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2017, 01:37:33 pm
The American people don't elect officials for gridlock.

Yes, during Obama's presidency, we wanted to stop what he would have done but it didn't stop him all that well per executive orders.

I think the American people, not all, do wish to see Washington actually work and get things done.

Send Luther Strange...a McConnell lapdog to the Senate won't change anything one iota.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Sanguine on September 20, 2017, 01:46:31 pm
The American people don't elect officials for gridlock.

Yes, during Obama's presidency, we wanted to stop what he would have done but it didn't stop him all that well per executive orders.

I think the American people, not all, do wish to see Washington actually work and get things done.

Well, of course that entirely depends on what they are trying to get done.  I'm OK with gridlock if they're going to do the wrong thing.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 20, 2017, 01:46:43 pm
Then why are you here?  Because clearly a meeting spot for Conservatives isn't for you.

You like a guy who did everything he could to ram Obama's agenda down our throats.  Colluded with Big Ears during Congressional recess' and undermined Conservatives in the senate at every turn.

And you have no problem with that?


So basically you this site to be like the TOS? I dare you to have me banned.


Far as I'm concerned he did not ram Obama's agenda down our throat contrary to what to those morons and so called Tea Party groups had said.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Sanguine on September 20, 2017, 01:48:39 pm

Yep, cause Bannon is no Conservative.

So if you wouldn't listen to Bannon on other issues, why would you let him determine what you think on this issue?
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 20, 2017, 01:56:10 pm
So if you wouldn't listen to Bannon on other issues, why would you let him determine what you think on this issue?


When it comes to economics this guy is no conservative. I see him more as a populist.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: skeeter on September 20, 2017, 02:00:28 pm

Yep, cause Bannon is no Conservative.

But you like McConnell.

You sound confused.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2017, 02:21:55 pm

So basically you this site to be like the TOS? I dare you to have me banned.

I said that?  Why would I want you banned?  That thought never crossed my mind.

And like the Mods would seriously ever listen to me on something like that anyway.  *****rollingeyes*****


Quote
Far as I'm concerned he did not ram Obama's agenda down our throat contrary to what to those morons and so called Tea Party groups had said.

TEA Party "morons"?  Interesting.

McConnell helped get Obama's TPA passed (Ryan helped push it through in the House)...helped get the awful deal with Iran ushered through the Senate illegally. 

He surrendered treaty approval powers over to the President. 

Did nothing to repeal Obamacare didn't even try and he's still not trying despite saying in December 2016 that "When we come back January 3 we’ll be moving to the Obamacare replacement resolution. The Obamacare repeal resolution will be the first item up in the New Year,"  So far we've got squat.

McConnell had his hands all over the infamous $1.1 trillion CRomnibus bill. 

And that's just what I remember off the top of my head.  At heart he's a pro choice pro union Moderate who changes his stance on issues when the wind changes direction.  He's about getting power...increasing his power and nothing more.

He's part of the problem in DC and you seem perfectly fine with that.

Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: Hoodat on September 20, 2017, 03:08:44 pm

Yep, cause Bannon is no Conservative.

That explains why he backed Trump.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: XenaLee on September 20, 2017, 03:14:16 pm
So the fact that Strange will back McConnell and vote how he's told...even if it is a vote in favor of Liberal socialist BS doesn't bother you?

What about the fact that McConnell has threatened and bullied any consulting firm thinking about doing business with anyone but Luther Strange?

A vote for Strange is a strange vote indeed since he's just going to support the same old crap in DC.

Which is probably why Trump supports him.  Gotta refill that swamp, dontcha know.  With the establishment guys that are Trump guys, that is.

Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: XenaLee on September 20, 2017, 03:16:12 pm

I like McConnell. I just don't like loser blowhards like Moore.

Seriously?  You actually "like" McConnell???   Uh..... I sure as hell wouldn't admit it if I did.   :silly:
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: XenaLee on September 20, 2017, 03:18:38 pm
Then why are you here?  Because clearly a meeting spot for Conservatives isn't for you.

You like a guy who did everything he could to ram Obama's agenda down our throats.  Colluded with Big Ears during Congressional recess' and undermined Conservatives in the senate at every turn.

And you have no problem with that?

And let's not forget..... a guy who gave Obama even MORE than he and the rats had asked for in that budget "deal".   McConnell isn't any mere sellout.  He is yet another ultimate Manchurian Candidate Trojan Horse that the GOP is currently infested with.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: XenaLee on September 20, 2017, 03:20:15 pm

When it comes to economics this guy is no conservative. I see him more as a populist.

You mean..... like Trump.

Well....duh.
Title: Re: Alabama GOP Senate Candidate Uses Racial Slurs in Speech
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2017, 03:30:39 pm
And let's not forget..... a guy who gave Obama even MORE than he and the rats had asked for in that budget "deal".   McConnell isn't any mere sellout.  He is yet another ultimate Manchurian Candidate Trojan Horse that the GOP is currently infested with.

Exactly!!!