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Title: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 11:59:31 am
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JIM BOUTON: "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time."



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PETE ROSE: "I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball."



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DIZZY DEAN:  "The good Lord was good to me. He gave me a strong body, a good right arm and a weak mind."



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BOB UECKER:  "The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up."   



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VIN SCULLY: "Andre Dawson has a bruised knee and is listed as day-to-day...Aren't we all?"



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Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 27, 2012, 06:54:31 pm
The pitcher has to find out if the hitter is timid.  And if the hitter is timid, he has to remind the hitter he's timid.  ~Don Drysdale, quoted in New York Times, 9 July 1979


It ain't like football.  You can't make up no trick plays.  ~Yogi Berra
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 07:38:03 pm
Vin Scully's Top 5 Calls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLexiZHy9wI#ws)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 07:44:18 pm
Playing the Field: Vin Scully Part One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnSqYEF8Z7k#)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 07:50:25 pm
Amazing Ball girl catch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SqJz0NgnnE#)

Amazing catch.....by THE BALL GIRL!!!
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 07:54:34 pm
Great Baseball Plays (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XH0A-fT7Zw#)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 27, 2012, 08:02:47 pm

my mother was at this game:  1956 World Series (Yankees 2, Dodgers 0)

Times Talk - Don Larsen, Yogi Berra and Bob Wolff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKmObI91poI#ws)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 27, 2012, 08:13:36 pm
Ryan pounds Ventura with his pitching hand

Nolan Ryan Beats Up Robin Ventura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6dW32kLEmM#ws)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 08:21:53 pm
my mother was at this game:  1956 World Series (Yankees 2, Dodgers 0)

Times Talk - Don Larsen, Yogi Berra and Bob Wolff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKmObI91poI#ws)

I watched that game....as a ten year old boy sitting on my living room floor in front of a 13 inch black and white Admiral television set.

I can still "see" Yogi jumping into Larson's arms and even then it didn't surprise me that became an iconic moment.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/PerfectLarsen.jpg/250px-PerfectLarsen.jpg)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 08:23:12 pm
Ryan pounds Ventura with his pitching hand

Nolan Ryan Beats Up Robin Ventura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6dW32kLEmM#ws)

ROFL!!  I saw that one too!
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 08:25:03 pm
Isn't it the best game ever created?    :beer:
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 27, 2012, 08:40:33 pm
"Sometimes if you still have a vestigial appetite for vivid detail, for the human face as it runs through the spectrum of emotions, it might be wise to head for the ballpark. . . .Whether it be a crusty debate among weathered ushers in the Motor City or a mob of pretzel munchers in the belly of Comiskey Park, the ballpark is still the place to go if you want to see people as they are.
  Here we find that we are still a nation of countless shades and shapes, heartening and hearty.  Orwell's fears have made little headway at the ballpark.  There we still find it easy to remember where we are and why we came."

--Thomas Boswell "Why Time Begins on Opening Day" (1984)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 08:49:35 pm
"No game in the world is as tidy and dramatically neat as baseball,
with cause and effect, crime and punishment,
motive and result, so cleanly defined."
-- Paul Gallico
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 27, 2012, 08:52:58 pm
Isn't it the best game ever created?    :beer:

For sure.  Keeps me sane listening to the AM broadcast of our Carolina League team the Mudcats howlin

The ballgirl's catch was incredible--she actually climbed the wall with her feet
Vin Scully epitomizes the game for me
In the highlights vid, that double play near the end is just about the best I ever saw
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 27, 2012, 09:00:05 pm
I was thinking about this one time:

The way the game is designed, there is no time clock;the innings could theoretically go on forever
An individual inning could last how long
An 'at bat' could also continue till the end of time or until the three collapsed
The foul/fair lines could conceivably extend to infinity without grandstand/wall constraints

just sayin
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 09:12:24 pm

"You gotta be a man to play baseball for a living, but you gotta have a lot of little boy in you."
-- Roy Campanella

"One of the beautiful things about baseball is that every once in a while you come into a situation where you want
to, and where you have to, reach down and prove something."

-- Nolan Ryan

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her.
Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry Mom, but nobody beats me."
-- Leo Durocher

"The hardest thing to do in baseball is to hit a round baseball with a round bat, squarely."
-- Ted Williams

"I remember one time going out to the mound to talk with Bob Gibson. He told me to get back behind the batter;
that the only thing I knew about pitching was that it was hard to hit."
--Tim McCarver

"Trying to hit him (Phil Niekro) was like trying to eat Jell-O with chopsticks."
-- Bobby Murcer, Yankees outfielder

"Why certainly I'd like to have that fellow who hits a home run every time at bat, who strikes out every opposing
batter when he's pitching, who throws strikes to any base or the plate when he's playing outfield and who's always
thinking about two innings ahead just what he'll do to baffle the other team. Any manager would want a guy like
that playing for him. The only trouble is to get him to put down his cup of beer and come down out of the stands
and do those things."
-- Danny Murtaugh, manager


"When you're in a slump, It's almost as if you look out at the field and it's one big glove."
-- Vance Law

"The game has a cleanness. If you do a good job, the numbers say so. You don't have to ask anyone or play politics.
You don't have to wait for the reviews."
-- Sandy Koufax

"Nothing flatters me more than to have it assumed that I could write prose-unless it be to have it assumed that I
once pitched a baseball with distinction."

-- Robert Frost

"When we lost I couldn't sleep at night. When we win I can't sleep at night. But when you win, you wake up feeling
better."
-- Joe Torre


"Baseball reflected the language of America, and spiced it, too. Presidents, politicians, executives, generals and
parents touched all the bases regularly so that nobody would be out in left field or caught off the base in the
greater pursuits of life. If you did it right, you hit a grand slam home run; if not you struck out."

-- Joseph Durso

"Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again.
That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is."
-- Bob Feller

All I want out of life, is that when I walk down the street folks will say, "There goes the greatest hitter that ever
lived."

--Ted Williams

"A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz."
-- Humphrey Bogart

"The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love."
-- Bryant Gumbel

"If a man can beat you, walk him."
-- Satchel Paige

You look forward to it like a birthday party when you're a kid. You think something wonderful is going to happen.
-- Joe DiMaggio, on Opening Day

Slump ? I ain't in no slump. I just ain't hittin.
-- Yogi Berra

We're supposed to be perfect our first day on the job and then show constant improvement.
-- Ed Vargo, major league baseball umpire

Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical
-- Yogi Berra

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's
life without even considering if there is a man on base."

-- Dave Barry

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity...No we must not You will learn about relativity faster than I
learn baseball.
-- Albert Einstein


Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalised for too many
players on the field

-- Jim Boulton

Hitting is 50% above the shoulders.
-- Ted Williams

I never thought home runs were all that exciting. I still think the triple is the most exciting thing in baseball. To me,
a triple is like a guy taking the ball on his 1-yard line and running 99 yards for a touchdown.

-- Hank Aaron

I used to love to come to the ballpark. Now I hate it. Every day becomes a little tougher because of all this. Writers,
tape recorders, microphones, cameras, questions and more questions. Roger Maris lost his hair the season he hit
sixty-one. I still have all my hair, but when it's over, I'm going home to Mobile and fish for a long time.
-- Hank Aaron as he closed in on Babe Ruth's career home run record


Mickey meant an awful lot to me. He was a tremendous athlete. People didn't understand him the way they should
have. He played 10 years on one leg. But more than that, he was a tremendous person.

-- Hank Aaron on Mickey Mantle

I had just turned 20, and Jackie told me the only way to be successful at anything was to go out and do it. He said
baseball was a game you played every day, not once a week.
-- Hank Aaron on Jackie Robinson

He's been very talkative. But it is usually under oath.
-- Sandy Alderson, on Albert Belle

You're only young once, but you can be immature forever
-- Larry Andersen


Since baseball time is measured only in outs, all you have to do is succeed utterly; keep hitting, keep the rally alive,
and you have defeated time. You remain forever young
.
-- Roger Angell

Trying to sneak a fastball past Hank Aaron is like trying to sneak the sunrise past a rooster.
-- Joe Adcock


I'm beginning to see Brooks [Robinson] in my sleep. If I dropped a paper plate, he'd pick it up on one hop and throw
me out at first.

-- Sparky Anderson

That's why I don't talk. Because I talk too much.
-- Joquin Andujar

There's one word that describes baseball -- 'You never know.'
-- Joquin Andujar

He's like an amusement-park ride - Even for guys who play.
-- Ruben Amaro on Mark McGwire

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds."
-- Red Barber

"Jimmy Connors plays two tennis matches and winds up with $850,000, and Muhammad Ali fights for one bout and
winds up with five million bucks. Me, I play 190 games--if you count exhibitions -- and I'm overpaid!"
-- Johnny Bench

"I was thinking of making a comeback until I pulled a muscle - vacuuming."
-- Johnny Bench


A ballplayer spends a good piece of his life gripping a baseball, and in the end it turns out that it was the other way
around all the time."
-- Jim Bouton

"If I stay healthy, I have a chance to collect three thousand hits and one thousand errors."
-- George Brett

"Show me a guy who's afraid to look bad and I'll show you a guy you can beat every time."
-- Lou Brock

"I can sit in a ballpark after a game and love looking at the field. Everybody's gone, and the ballpark is empty, and I'll
sit there. I sit there and think, 'Is this as close to heaven as I'm going to get?' Or, 'If I get to heaven, will there be
baseball?"

-- Kim Braatz-Voisard


Don Baylor, New York Yankees DH, on Billy Martin and his predecessor Yogi Berra:
"Playing for Yogi is like playing for your father; playing for Billy is like playing for your father-in-law."


"You mix two jiggers of scotch to one jigger of Metrecal. So far I've lost five pounds and my driver's license."
-- Rocky Bridges, minor league manager, on his new diet drink

"It's a good thing I stayed in Cincinnati for four years -- It took me that long to learn how to spell it."
-- Rocky Bridges

"Coaching third with a pitcher on base is like being a member of a bomb disposal squad. The thing could blow up in
your face at any moment."

-- Rocky Bridges

"I prefer fast food."
-- Rocky Bridges, on why he won't eat snails

"Kids today are looking for idols, but sometimes they look too far... They don't have to look any farther than their
home because those are the people that love you. They are the real heroes."

-- Bobby Bonilla

"Every member of our baseball team at West Point became a general: this proves the value of team sports."
-- Gen. Omar Bradley


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Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 27, 2012, 09:51:12 pm
"This ain't football.  We do this everyday"  -- unkown
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: sinkspur on May 27, 2012, 10:52:49 pm
To show you what a class act Nolan Ryan is:

For the last ten years, one of the pre-game highlights at The BallPark at Arlington was Ryan pounding on Ventura.

Well, Ventura is now the manager of the Chicago White Sox.  So, before the White Sox visited Arlington this year, Ryan (now the President of the Texas Rangers) asked that that highlight be removed, permanently, from the pre-game festivities.

Revenge is best served cold, in baseball, on the field by pounding the opposition.  Texas swept the Toronto Blue Jays this weekend, winning today 12-6.  The Sox are doing OK, but they're second to Cleveland.
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: sinkspur on May 27, 2012, 11:04:38 pm
I was in a slump once, and Casey Stengel says "Go up there and think about what you're doing."  I said "Case,  how the hell can you hit and think at the same time?"
--Yogi Berra

That's the way baseball go.
--Ron Washington


Chuck Tanner: "When I first became a manager, I asked Chuck for advice. He told me, 'Always rent.' "
--Tony LaRussa


Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: sinkspur on May 27, 2012, 11:07:52 pm
The Man who ran around the bases backward--Jimmy Piersall

http://www.centerfieldmaz.com/2011/11/man-who-ran-around-bases-backwards.html (http://www.centerfieldmaz.com/2011/11/man-who-ran-around-bases-backwards.html)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 27, 2012, 11:32:02 pm
Baseball is the most beautiful, most elegant game ever devised.  Here are some great Bob Uecker quotes:

“You know, everybody remembers their first game in the major leagues. For me it was in Milwaukee. My hometown, born and raised there, and I can remember walking out on the field and Birdie Tebbetts was our manager at that time. And my family was there: my mother and dad, and all my relatives. And as I’m standing on the field, everybody’s pointing at me and waving and laughing, and I’m pointing back. And Birdie Tebbetts came up and asked me if I was nervous or uptight about the game. And I said, ‘I’m not. I’ve been waiting five years to get here. I’m ready to go.’
He said, ‘Well, we’re gonna start you today. I didn’t want to tell you earlier. I didn’t want you to get too fired up.’
I said, ‘Look, I’m ready to go.’
He said, ‘Well, great, you’re in there. And oh, by the by, the rest of us up here wear that supporter on the inside.’ That was the first game my folks walked out on, too.”

“When I came up to bat with three men on and two outs in the ninth, I looked in the other team’s dugout and they were already in street clothes.”

“People don’t know this but I helped the Cardinals win the pennant. I came down with hepatitis. The trainer injected me with it.”

“I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he didn’t have that kind of dough. But he eventually scraped it up.”

“When I looked to the third base coach for a sign, he turned his back on me.”

“The biggest thrill a ballplayer can have is when your son takes after you. That happened when my Bobby was in his championship Little League game. He really showed me something. Struck out three times. Made an error that lost the game. Parents were throwing things at our car and swearing at us as we drove off. Gosh, I was proud.”

“I didn’t get a lot of awards as a player. But they did have a Bob Uecker Day Off for me once in Philly.”

“Sporting goods companies pay me not to endorse their products.”

“I hit a grand slam off Ron Herbel and when his manager Herman Franks came out to get him, he was bringing Herbel’s suitcase.”

“The highlight of my career? In ’67 with St. Louis, I walked with the bases loaded to drive in the winning run in an intersquad game in spring training.”
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 11:34:14 pm
Hey Sink!

All these many years we've been on the forums....I would have put money up that you were a avid baseball fan.   


Not a surprise at all.    :beer:


Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 11:36:52 pm
“When I came up to bat with three men on and two outs in the ninth, I looked in the other team’s dugout and they were already in street clothes.”


“I hit a grand slam off Ron Herbel and when his manager Herman Franks came out to get him, he was bringing Herbel’s suitcase.”

Lando!  My eyes are watering heavy from  laughter!    :beer:
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 27, 2012, 11:41:33 pm
Al Kaline... one of my two favorite players of all time.

Ernie Harwell on Al Kaline (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp_y8EJeOac#)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 11:45:25 pm
The Man who ran around the bases backward--Jimmy Piersall

http://www.centerfieldmaz.com/2011/11/man-who-ran-around-bases-backwards.html (http://www.centerfieldmaz.com/2011/11/man-who-ran-around-bases-backwards.html)

I remember once when the manager came out to make a pitching change, Jimmy Persall went out and sat at the flagpole while the new pitcher was coming in from the bullpen.

Back then the pitcher slowed walked, carrying his glove and jacket....where the bat boy didn't touch that jacket until he reached the infield.

Today, they get driven in a golf cart.
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 27, 2012, 11:47:11 pm
Here is the other one... Robin Yount.

Baseball Hall of Fame - Biographies: Robin Yount (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq2K5WKH8IM#)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 27, 2012, 11:56:06 pm
Ernie Harwell quotes...  When I was a kid, the Braves moved to Atlanta and devastated this young fan.  I picked up a book about Al Kaline and became a Tigers fan overnite.  My twin, in turn, adopted the Cubs.  My AM radio could often pick up Tigers night games or late west coast games and I learned to love Ernie Harwell.  I will never forget the 1967 and 1968 pennant races and the 1968 World Series against the Cards.  Golden times, golden voice and great memories.  Here is some wisdom from one of the all time baseball great voices, Ernie Harwell:

"Baseball is a lot like life. It's a day-to-day existence, full of ups and downs. You make the most of your opportunities in baseball as you do in life."

"God blessed me by putting me here for thirty-one years at Michigan and Trumbull. I had (after being "released") the greatest job in the world—a job I loved to do. But most of all, I appreciate you fans. I appreciate your loyalty, your support and your love that you've shown me, especially the love." (September 30, 1991)

"I had a job to do, and I did it all these years to the best of my ability. That's what I'd like to leave behind as I finish my final game in Toronto."

"I'd like to be remembered as someone who showed up for the job. I consider myself a worker. I love what I do. If I had my time over again, I'd probably do it for nothing."

"If I walked back into the booth in the year 2025, I don't think it would have changed much. I think baseball would be played and managed pretty much the same as it is today. It's a great survivor."

"I love the game because it's so simple, yet it can be so complex. There's a lot of layers to it, but they aren't hard to peel back."

"I think I owe thanks to the people who have listened to me over the years, who tuned in on the radio. They have given me a warmth and loyalty that I've never been able to repay. The way they have reached out to me has certainly been the highlight of my life."

"I think once you start as an announcer, you have to decide what kind of approach you're going to have. I decided very early that I was going to be a reporter, that I would not cheer for the team. I don't denigrate people who do it. It's fine. I think you just have to fit whatever kind of personality you have, and I think my nature was to be more down the middle and that's the way I conducted the broadcasts."

"So much happened (in 1968) it was hard to keep up with everything. We had Denny McLain's thirty-one victories, Gates Brown's great pinch-hitting in the clutch, Tom Matchick's home run to beat Baltimore in the ninth inning, then Daryl Patterson striking out the side to beat them in the ninth. Excitement every day in the ballpark."

"The greatest single moment I've ever known in Detroit was Jim Northrup's triple in the seventh game of the World Series in St. Louis. It was a stunning moment because not only were the Tigers winning a world championship that meant so much to an entire city, they were beating the best pitcher I ever saw—Bob Gibson."

"Wheaties was the big sponsor in those days (1940s). They sponsored almost all the baseball games in the majors and the minors. That was a lot of Wheaties. I think there were twenty-four boxes in a case and some of these guys were hitting twenty-five and thirty home runs a season. We had a dog in those days named Blue Grass and the players used to give us their Wheaties for him. Blue Grass loved Wheaties and so did I."
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 27, 2012, 11:56:45 pm
Here is the other one... Robin Yount.

Baseball Hall of Fame - Biographies: Robin Yount (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq2K5WKH8IM#)

That SOB was an "Oriole Killer".

I still remember that game in 1982 when we had to play them on the last day of the season....for the pennant.   They beat us 9-3.  Pretty sure Yount had a mammoth game.

Was in the stands holding my 7 month old daughter.  (She got in free!)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: sinkspur on May 28, 2012, 12:00:32 am
I remember once when the manager came out to make a pitching change, Jimmy Persall went out and sat at the flagpole while the new pitcher was coming in from the bullpen.

Back then the pitcher slowed walked, carrying his glove and jacket....where the bat boy didn't touch that jacket until he reached the infield.

Today, they get driven in a golf cart.

Do they?

I haven't seen a golf cart for a bullpen pitcher in years.

Remember when pitchers threw complete games?  Now, it's all about pitch counts; you've got seventh-inning set-up men, and eighth-inning set-up men, and closers. 

Guys making eight figures throwing one inning every two or three days. 

If I was a young dad, I'd want my son to aspire to be a closer.
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 12:02:03 am
Thanks, Lando!

Seeing your love of baseball only reinforces our FRiendship over the years!

Great stuff!   :beer:
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: sinkspur on May 28, 2012, 12:10:56 am
Speaking of broadcasters, my favorites growing up were Mel Allen, Dizzy Dean and PeeWee Reese in the "Game of the Week" on CBS, and Joe Garagiola, anywhere.

Here are some of Joe's quotes:

I know a baseball star who wouldn't report the theft of his wife's credit cards because the thief spends less than she does.

I went through baseball as "a player to be named later."

Nolan Ryan is pitching much better now that he has his curve ball straightened out.

One thing you learned as a Cubs fan: when you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth.

The Orioles' Dick Hall comes off the mound like a drunk kangaroo on roller skates.

"Every game is kind of the same. He rushes a couple up there at 97, 98, then gives you a couple of off-speed pitches, the changeup, the curve, ... It's so unfair. It's just wrong."



One player Joe mentioned a lot was Choo Choo Coleman.   He was the catcher for the hapless 1962 Mets who lost over 100 games.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/sports/baseball/mets-choo-choo-coleman-50-years-later.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/sports/baseball/mets-choo-choo-coleman-50-years-later.html)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 12:19:33 am
Great story about Choo Choo Coleman, Sink!

Good stuff here.

Thanks to all! :beer:
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 01:28:33 am
The pitcher has to find out if the hitter is timid.  And if the hitter is timid, he has to remind the hitter he's timid.  ~Don Drysdale, quoted in New York Times, 9 July 1979


It ain't like football.  You can't make up no trick plays.  ~Yogi Berra


I can't help it!  Just going back over the thread.  They lied.  It's better than the first time.   :beer:
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 28, 2012, 01:33:45 am
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For Immediate Release
Baseball Loses Ryne Duren, Fireball Pitcher from Great 1950’s Yankee Teams

Lake Wales, FL (January 7, 2011)— Ryne Duren, one of the premier relief pitchers in the Major Leagues in the late 1950s, died January 6, 2011 in his winter home of Lake Wales, Florida. He was 81. Duren was an integral part of the New York Yankees American League Championship teams of 1958 and 1960 and played a major role in defeating the Milwaukee Braves in the 1958 World Series. In addition to his wife of thirty-six years, Diane, Duren is survived by his son Steve, step children, Mark Jackson, Brian Jackson and Cynthia Newcomer, and 11 grandchildren.

Known for his ability to throw a baseball in excess of 100 miles per hour and the thick glasses he wore to correct his 20/200 vision, Duren was also famous for being a bit wild, both on and off the field, during his playing days. He parlayed his throwing speed and controlled wildness on the mound into an effective career. During his 10-year Major League career, Duren pitched for the Yankees, Orioles, Phillies, Reds, Angels, Athletics and Senators.

At the suggestion of Yankee coach, Frank Crosetti, after Duren threw a warm-up pitch into the screen behind home plate, Duren incorporated one of those pitches into the screen into every warm-up session, drawing the attention of all the fans and announcers, and making the on-deck batter apprehensive about digging in. Today, 45 years after Duren retired from the game, his name is mentioned whenever a pitcher uncorks a pitch high and wild over a batter’s head.

Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 01:37:05 am

Quote

"Baseball reflected the language of America, and spiced it, too. Presidents, politicians, executives, generals and
parents touched all the bases regularly so that nobody would be out in left field or caught off the base in the
greater pursuits of life. If you did it right, you hit a grand slam home run; if not you struck out."
-- Joseph Durso




Today....nobody strikes out.  Everybody walks.   



.....and scores.    :shrug:
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 01:39:27 am
Baseball Loses Ryne Duren, Fireball Pitcher from Great 1950’s Yankee Teams

Contact: Mark Jackson
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For Immediate Release
Baseball Loses Ryne Duren, Fireball Pitcher from Great 1950’s Yankee Teams

Lake Wales, FL (January 7, 2011)— Ryne Duren, one of the premier relief pitchers in the Major Leagues in the late 1950s, died January 6, 2011 in his winter home of Lake Wales, Florida. He was 81. Duren was an integral part of the New York Yankees American League Championship teams of 1958 and 1960 and played a major role in defeating the Milwaukee Braves in the 1958 World Series. In addition to his wife of thirty-six years, Diane, Duren is survived by his son Steve, step children, Mark Jackson, Brian Jackson and Cynthia Newcomer, and 11 grandchildren.

Known for his ability to throw a baseball in excess of 100 miles per hour and the thick glasses he wore to correct his 20/200 vision, Duren was also famous for being a bit wild, both on and off the field, during his playing days. He parlayed his throwing speed and controlled wildness on the mound into an effective career. During his 10-year Major League career, Duren pitched for the Yankees, Orioles, Phillies, Reds, Angels, Athletics and Senators.

At the suggestion of Yankee coach, Frank Crosetti, after Duren threw a warm-up pitch into the screen behind home plate, Duren incorporated one of those pitches into the screen into every warm-up session, drawing the attention of all the fans and announcers, and making the on-deck batter apprehensive about digging in. Today, 45 years after Duren retired from the game, his name is mentioned whenever a pitcher uncorks a pitch high and wild over a batter’s head.



LOL!  I was just thinking of him this afternoon...reading the thread.

Can still see those Mason-jar glasses.  And he was winding up and hit the freaking backstop in the air.

Scared the sh*t out of one guy.....he didn't want to get in the batter's box.  LOL!
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 01:42:05 am
DAMNIT!

There has GOT to be baseball in heaven or I'm not going.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: sinkspur on May 28, 2012, 01:54:55 am
Well, I've just got to throw this in here.  One of the most famous George Carlin routines:

Football or baseball?

Football or baseball (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXacL0Uny0#)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 28, 2012, 02:13:38 am
Mark Fidryk's Dream Season

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/385974/get_image_medium.jpg)

(Fidrych pads the mound. Photo by William T. Anderson, The Detroit News)

6/28/1976 - Fidrych comes on the scene

Tigers pitcher Mark Fidrych was a character if baseball ever had one. He padded the pitcher's mound like a nest, he talked to the baseball as if it was a living creature, and he carried a grin wherever he went. Nicknamed "The Bird" from of his likeness to Sesame Street's Big Bird, Fidrych was largely unknown at the beginning of his career. That all changed on June 28, 1976, when his team hosted the New York Yankees on ABC's Monday Night Baseball.

In front of a massive audience both at home and in Tiger Stadium, the blond-haired rookie pitched a complete-game shutout, holding the Yankees to only seven hits in nine innings. Fidrych improved to 9-1 and it was his ninth complete game of the year. Afterward, the Detroit audience was so elated at his performance that they refused to leave after the players left the field. They chanted "We want Bird!" for minutes and only exited when an amazed Fidrych ran back from the locker room and waved to the crowd.

That game vaulted Fidrych from a local phenom to a national sensation. In 1976, Mark Fidrych was the biggest athlete in the country. He was the AL starting pitcher in the All-Star Game, he became the first athlete to appear on the cover of Rolling Stones Magazine, and he even graced the cover of Sports Illustrated, which he did alongside Big Bird. Fidrych brought big crowds wherever he went; games he pitched in accounted for over 40% of his team's attendance and each of his starts following the Yankees game were televised.

Fidrych finished his dream season with a 19-9 record and a 2.34 ERA. He won the American League Rookie of the Year award and finished second in Cy Young voting to Jim Palmer of the Orioles. The Bird's career took a nosedive after that. Injuries to his arms and knees limited him to only five more seasons, and he finished his career with just a 29-19 record and a 3.10 ERA. He attempted a minor league comeback with the Red Sox in 1982 and 1983 before calling it quits, no doubt as the most notable 29-game winner in MLB history.

Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 02:17:39 am
Didn't he get in trouble with the law?  Or, was that another Detroit starting pitcher I'm thinking of?  He won 30 games but can't think of his name.
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: sinkspur on May 28, 2012, 02:32:52 am
A Brief History of the Eephus Pitch

By FRED BIERMAN

On Sunday, Randy Johnson was facing San Francisco outfielder Fred Lewis in the first inning and threw a pitch so slow that it failed to even register on the radar gun. Lewis was obviously expecting something with a little more heat on it and the pitch fluttered in for strike two. Lewis eventually worked a single in the at bat on the way to becoming the first lefty ever to get four hits off Johnson. Arizona went on to win the game, 7-2.

The slow ball, however, turned out to be inadvertent. A boat horn honked in McCovey cove right as Johnson was delivering the ball distracting the Johnson in the middle of his windup and resulting in the surprising pitch. As my colleague Tyler Kepner can tell you, when he was with the Yankeees, Johnson actually intentionally threw a pitch similar to the one he threw on Sunday. This is from a Yankees game story in 2005, when Johnson was pitching for the Yankees.

    Johnson has mostly hidden his sense of humor since spring training. Yesterday’s game, however, was such a laugher that Johnson even smiled after lobbing an Eephus pitch to Sal Fasano in the third inning. Johnson let it go when he noticed catcher John Flaherty was confused about where to set his target.

The Eephus pitch, popularized in the 1930s and 40s by a Pirates pitcher named Rip Sewell (here’s a cool shot of his grip on the pitch) is basically just a high arcing lob or a “junk ball.” It seems that everyone who throws the pitch (or some version of it) has their own name for it. Dave LaRoche called his “LaLob”. Dave Steib called his the “Dead Fish”. Bill Lee (one of the most colorful figures in the history of the game) called his the “Spaceball” or “Leephus”. Yankee fans will of course remember Steve Hamilton’s “Folly Floater”. Today Orlando Hernandez and Tim Wakefield are among the only players to throw some version of the Eephus.

There are also two famous stories of players missing or fouling off an eephus and asking for it again. In the 1946 All-Star game, Sewell threw one to Ted Williams, who missed it and asked for another. Sewell obliged and Williams hit it out of the park. In 1975 (CORRECTION — the commenters were correct that this incident happened in 1970 not 1975), Hamilton threw one to Cleveland’s Tony Horton who fouled it back behind home plate. Horton asked for another and got it only to pop it up to catcher Thurman Munson. Steeped in shame, Horton crawled back to the dugout. Thanks to YouTube you can watch the footage of this incident above. (Also thanks to YouTube you can watch this bizarro clip from some kind of Japanese television program of a different kind of eephus.)

Also as Lee found out in the 1975 World Series, you can’t get too cute with the pitch. In game 7 of that series, Lee twice retired Cincinnati slugger Tony Perez with his space ball, but went to the well one too many times and in his third at bat Perez hit one out of the park for a 2-run home run to bring the Reds to within a run. That was the beginning of Cincinnati’s comeback and the Reds went on to win the game and the series.

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/a-brief-history-of-the-eephus-pitch/ (http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/30/a-brief-history-of-the-eephus-pitch/)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 28, 2012, 02:34:49 am
The only trouble he had that I know of is he injured his knee fooling around.  And his arm=rotator cuff
Don't know who at Detroit you may be thinking about.  I love the game, but don't know too much else.
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 28, 2012, 02:41:38 am
Randy Johnson Makes Bare-Handed Grab on Prince Fielder

Randy Johnson makes a bare handed grab on Prince Fielder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iwd27-YX0#)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 02:59:40 am
The only trouble he had that I know of is he injured his knee fooling around.  And his arm=rotator cuff
Don't know who at Detroit you may be thinking about.  I love the game, but don't know too much else.

Denny McLean     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denny_McLain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denny_McLain)

He had a lot of demons.
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: famousdayandyear on May 28, 2012, 03:22:44 am
Thanks for the link.  I now remember him making headlines years ago.
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 28, 2012, 03:32:38 am
Thanks, Lando!

Seeing your love of baseball only reinforces our FRiendship over the years!

Great stuff!   :beer:

That may be the kindest compliment I have received on a forum.  It means a lot.

As for Robin Yount being an Orioles killer that day, I remember it was a clincher for his MVP season.  Earl Weaver only had high praise afterwards.  Nobody could go from 1st to 3rd faster than Robin Yount.  Paul Molitor was one of the smartest base runners in baseball.  Just being on base would unnerve most seasoned pitchers.  But only a true baseball fan would see it, I think.  Gorman Thomas, Ben Oglivie, Cecil Cooper...  Jimmy Gantner, Ted Simmons, Rollie Fingers...

It has been 20+ years since I read it, but there is a book called 9 Innings by David Okrent.  His goal was to devote an entire book to one perfect game of baseball.  He chose a game in 1982 between the Milwaukee Brewers and Baltimore Orioles.  It was brilliantly written and I remember, it expanded my knowledge of the game and my overall vocabulary considerably.  It was out of print for a long time, but maybe Amazon has it.  If you can get your hands on it, I highly recommend it.

I am serious when I say this... baseball is majestically American.  It is a game of achievements and records.  There is nothing like it.  The drama that can build in a single nine inning game or a playoff series, without a clock, is unrivaled in sport.  It is a team game of individuals.  It is a game of match ups and strategies.  It is heartbreaking or exhilarating in an instant.  Nothing... nothing... can match it at its finest.  It is life at its best.

Way back when, I saw Steve Busby throw a no-hitter against the Brewers.  George "Boomer" Scott walked after fouling off several pitches to spoil the perfect game.  But, what a night!  Back then, I could go to 20-30 home games while working at a grocery store.  I always sat in the upper deck as I convinced myself they were the best seats at old County Stadium. I would travel to old Comisky in Chicago to support "my" Brewers.  God, how I long for those times.  Nothing, nothing was better than when I was at the ballpark.

And... don't get me started on the 1967 and 1968 Tigers!  Good Heavens!  I had an old GE AM radio that I would put under my pillow at night when I was supposed to be asleep.  The Angels, Red Sox were even with the Tigers.  Tony Conigliaro?  Remember his gruesome injury?  I talked Mr. Narloch, my geography teacher to let me listen to Game 7 against the Cards.  Denny McClain!  Mickey Lolich the Series hero - winning 3 and beating Bob Gibson on short rest in Game 7.  Mickey Stanley moving in from the outfield to play shortstop so Al Kaline could get in the lineup.  Mayo Smith made one of the all time brilliant moves with that one.

Yes my friend... I love the Green Bay Packers.  But baseball is divine.
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: DCPatriot on May 28, 2012, 03:52:50 am
I grew up in a AAA city....the Buffalo Bisons of the International League.

I recall Columbus Ohio, Richmond Hens, Syracuse....and even Toronto being in the league.

Road games were broadcast on ticker tape....and the announcers had to create the scene and drama...sitting in a studio somewhere.  It was pretty amazing when you think about it.

Back in the days of Luke Easter and Ruben Amaro (the father, I'm sure)

Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 28, 2012, 03:58:43 am
For DCP...

Baseball Hall of Fame - Biographies: Eddie Murray (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7aAnmvgfSo#)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 28, 2012, 04:01:55 am
Tony Conigliaro Story Documentary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNKFJiggvg#)
Title: Re: Wit and Wisdom of Baseball
Post by: Lando Lincoln on May 28, 2012, 04:25:23 am
For DCP...

Baltimore Orioles Earl Weaver in his last game in 1982 as described by Howard Cosell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D13-QS5eQMM#)