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General Category => World News => Topic started by: TomSea on July 13, 2019, 10:45:28 am
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Radio France Internationale:
France
France Domestic violence Women Murder
75 femicides in 2019: how France is failing to protect its women
At least 75 women have been killed by their current or former partners in France since January this year. Some activists say the deaths could have been prevented if France had the political will to follow the example of Spain and offer better protection to women victims of domestic violence.
4 July: Isabelle, 37, is run over by her partner near Reims; 5 July: Christelle, 32, mother of four, is stabbed to death by her partner in Perpignan; 6 July: a woman aged 31 is strangled to death by her partner near Paris.
There have been an average of two femicides per week in France since the beginning of the year and 80 percent of the victims were killed in their own homes.
“These aren’t family dramas, separation dramas or crimes of passion,†rages the Facebook group @feminicide that began tracking the number of femicides in France in January. “This is domestic violence perpetrated by frustrated men who believe they have a licence to kill.â€
Read more at: http://en.rfi.fr/france/20190710-75-femicides-2019-france-failing-protect-women-violence (http://en.rfi.fr/france/20190710-75-femicides-2019-france-failing-protect-women-violence)
There's really not enough "femicide" news, who would have ever thought France would suffer from this. 75 so far this year, that's pretty bad. I would like to see though, more on the statistics as to whom actually committed these acts.
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"Femicide?"
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That's a new word on me too....
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"Femicide?"
It's the word that's long been used to describe the abortion rates for girls in both India and China.
Boys are valuable. Girls are not. Boys are allowed to be born. Girls are not.
Femicide.
It's a real thing.
@Cyber Liberty @EdJames
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It's the word that's long been used to describe the abortion rates for girls in both India and China.
Boys are valuable. Girls are not. Boys are allowed to be born. Girls are not.
Femicide.
It's a real thing.
@Cyber Liberty @EdJames
From what I've read of the context in the article, it's post-birth abortions of wives and girlfriends.
Yours makes a lot of sense, especially WRT China and it's one-baby policy. Lots of sex selection-by-abortion done.
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What's real well known is "femicidio", the Spanish word... and it has apparently occurred amply in Latin America, I'll toss out one example,
2 beauty queens, 1 in Honduras, 1 in Venezuela have been killed, femicidio though, what has gotten attention is what was a large number of femicides in Juarez Mexico, but we've come to find that it is widespread and yes, to an extent, probably happens in the US too. It's a topic one could write a college thesis on.
FWIW, wikipedia:
Femicide or feminicide is a sex-based hate crime term, broadly defined as "the intentional killing of females (women or girls) because they are females", though definitions vary depending on its cultural context. [1] Feminist author Diana E. H. Russell was the first person to define and disseminate this term in 1976.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide)
(https://i1.wp.com/www.4vientos.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/MAPA-FEMINICIDIO-MEXICO.jpg)
Yes, it's probably fair to point at Latin America and say how awful but as I said and I'm no expect, we probably have a little of this here too.
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It's the word that's long been used to describe the abortion rates for girls in both India and China.
Boys are valuable. Girls are not. Boys are allowed to be born. Girls are not.
Femicide.
It's a real thing.
@Cyber Liberty @EdJames
Thanks for that information. Seems like they are not using the word in the same context in the article here.
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In India, I did read... they have a phenomenon there and probably in the real rural backwater areas of abandoning a female baby. I have no idea if this is common and China probably has something like this too. I looked at this years ago. Now, I forget the exact terminology and specifics.
In China, I believe it has been said, they will put unwanted girls in orphanages but, if no one adopts them? I forget how all of that worked and perhaps the Chicom government would deny it.
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In Mexico, mothers have lost their beloved daughters, lots of protests have happened.
(https://www.animalpolitico.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Feminicidios-960x500.jpg)
Argentina, see on screen, "Buenos Aires"
(https://cdni.rt.com/actualidad/public_images/2015.11/article/563c13f6c46188df308b45dd.png)
In Latin America, it's honestly tied to the concept of "MACHISMO", you know, we've heard that word, to be "Macho", anyway, that's my opinion.
And if no one else says it, France has a lot of Muslims. Could this be connected with that too? Honor Killings-types of scenarios? I'd think so.
There's a whole femicide map for Latin America, there's probably one out there for the world.
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I was unaware, actually, there have been a few news stories on it.
'A culture of domestic violence': France’s femicide problem
Date created : 08/07/2019
(https://scd.france24.com/en/files/imagecache/rfi_16x9_1024_578/article/image/2019-07-06t172954z_732389396_rc12432dbb40_rtrmadp_3_france-femicide.jpg)
Reuters/Regis Duvignau | French actor Julie Gayet attends with families of victims and activists a rally against "femicide", gender-based violence targeted at women, in Paris, France, July 6, 2019.
Text by: Ivy SCOTT
Seventy-five women have been killed by their current or former partners in France so far in 2019. As Spain leads several European countries in the fight to lower femicide rates, why is France so behind?
Seventy-five women have already become victims of femicide this year in France --that’s more than one new victim every three days. Fifty-three of those victims were murdered in their own homes.
“These aren’t family dramas, or crimes of passion,†insists @Feminicide, the Facebook page that has been tracking the number of femicides in France since January. “This is domestic violence perpetrated by frustrated men who have given themselves a license to kill. These are systematic assassinations rooted in a problem with our society, and in a patriarchal education system that gives men the right to possess and dispose of women and children.â€
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The most recent data from 2015 shows that France had more femicides per year than the Netherlands, the UK, Italy, and Spain -- though it fared better than Germany, Switzerland, and several Eastern European nations.
Read more at: https://www.france24.com/en/20190708-culture-domestic-violence-france-femicide-problem (https://www.france24.com/en/20190708-culture-domestic-violence-france-femicide-problem)
If one reads that wikipedia article, it's not an easy topic to define. I asn't sure about what I posted yesterday from wiki just calling it a "hate crime". Some people do not care for that kind of terminology. But just killing someone on the basis of their gender, yes.
Also, al Jazeera just came out with a story on the matter in Bolivia.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/07/bolivia-men-murder-femicide-rate-soars-190714093743392.html (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/07/bolivia-men-murder-femicide-rate-soars-190714093743392.html)
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Thanks for that information. Seems like they are not using the word in the same context in the article here.
@EdJames @Cyber Liberty
It seems to be a variation on the same theme - women being killed just because they're women.
And my guess is that what's going on in France is a symptom of a larger disease - that all religions are NOT alike.
Neither the Hindu religion, nor Islam values life...... a fact that the leftist media will never address.
If these indeed are "honor" killings, we'll never read about it in the press.
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@EdJames @Cyber Liberty
It seems to be a variation on the same theme - women being killed just because they're women.
And my guess is that what's going on in France is a symptom of a larger disease - that all religions are NOT alike.
Neither the Hindu religion, nor Islam values life...... a fact that the leftist media will never address.
If these indeed are "honor" killings, we'll never read about it in the press.
Good point!
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@EdJames @Cyber Liberty
It seems to be a variation on the same theme - women being killed just because they're women.
And my guess is that what's going on in France is a symptom of a larger disease - that all religions are NOT alike.
Neither the Hindu religion, nor Islam values life...... a fact that the leftist media will never address.
If these indeed are "honor" killings, we'll never read about it in the press.
That's the big picture, @musiclady. It's all murder, doesn't matter which end of the birth canal.
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From what I've read of the context in the article, it's post-birth abortions of wives and girlfriends.
Yours makes a lot of sense, especially WRT China and it's one-baby policy. Lots of sex selection-by-abortion done.
China no longer has a one-child policy, BTW.
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China no longer has a one-child policy, BTW.
And the policy they had was not enforced in the Western Provinces. The point remains, the Chinese people killed a lot of pre-born babies solely because they were girls. There's no sugar-coating that.
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And the policy they had was not enforced in the Western Provinces. The point remains, the Chinese people killed a lot of pre-born babies solely because they were girls. There's no sugar-coating that.
Not sugar-coating anything. But someone who professes a desire for facts over innuendo should be consistent about it.
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Not sugar-coating anything. But someone who professes a desire for facts over innuendo should be consistent about it.
That person only exists in the fevered mind of one who trolls others. Being a human, I make no claims of perfection and foolish consistency.
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That person only exists in the fevered mind of one who trolls others. Being a human, I make no claims of perfection and foolish consistency.
Yeah right. So I guess “Admin†is just a euphemism for hypocrite. Doesn’t surprise me.
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Yeah right. So I guess “Admin†is just a euphemism for hypocrite. Doesn’t surprise me.
Whatever you say. :seeya:
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China, one child policy revoked and why? Apparently they were not having enough children and yes, some or all minority groups like the Miao a/k/a the Hmong and the Yao did not have to adhere to one child but I don' t think it was limitless children.
I think China was not having enough women to marry.
Lots of articles on this phenomenon.
An example of failure..
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And the policy they had was not enforced in the Western Provinces. The point remains, the Chinese people killed a lot of pre-born babies solely because they were girls. There's no sugar-coating that.
Absolutely! Profoundly true.
Killing millions of babies, including millions just because they were female, is horrific, and cannot be minimized in any way, shape or form.
YOU are the one interested in FACTS, @Cyber Liberty . YOU.
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China no longer has a one-child policy, BTW.
And as stated above, the reason for it is that they weren't producing enough women to keep up the population.
Not because they valued life or more particularly the lives of women.
FACT.
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Absolutely! Profoundly true.
Killing millions of babies, including millions just because they were female, is horrific, and cannot be minimized in any way, shape or form.
YOU are the one interested in FACTS, @Cyber Liberty . YOU.
Thanks for the kind words. It takes a lawyer-type to twist words as badly as upthread. One who is pro-abortion, living in a profoundly pro-abortion State.
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There was some article posted about brides going to China from another country. Maybe it was on Christian Pakistan women at that. It was in the past 3-4 months. I will look for it later.
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Thanks for the kind words. It takes a lawyer-type to twist words as badly as upthread. One who is pro-abortion, living in a profoundly pro-abortion State.
Indeed.
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There was some article posted about brides going to China from another country. Maybe it was on Christian Pakistan women at that. It was in the past 3-4 months. I will look for it later.
Thanks, @TomSea . I think I remember something like that too, so it would be interesting to read about it.
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@musiclady
Bride market trafficks Pakistani Christian women to China
By KATHY GANNON and DAKE KANG | Associated Press
GUJRANWALA, Pakistan – Hundreds young women from Pakistan's small Christian minority have been trafficked to China as brides in recent months as their impoverished community is targeted in an aggressive new marriage market, activists and officials say.
Brokers offer desperately poor parents thousands of dollars to give girls in marriage to Chinese men, even cruising outside churches for potential brides. They are helped by Christian pastors paid to preach to their congregations with promises of wealth in exchange for their daughters.
Once in China, the girls — most often married against their will — can find themselves isolated in rural regions, vulnerable to abuse, unable to communicate and reliant on a translation app even for a glass of water. Touted as wealthy Christian converts, the grooms often turn out to be neither, according to accounts from brides, their parents, an activist, pastors and government officials, speaking to The Associated Press.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/bride-market-trafficks-pakistani-christian-women-to-china (https://www.foxnews.com/world/bride-market-trafficks-pakistani-christian-women-to-china)
Just one story... I know too, I found some story of a Pastor who was helping some young ladies escape their situations. I'll have to find that story later too.
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Maybe technically, they don't fit into the definition of "femicides", but you hear ever so often about serial killers who go after women, I didn't follow say Ted Bundy's case enough but wouldn't that fit him and the green river killer up in the Northwest? Anyway, that's horrible and pretty gloomy to even think about really.
Latin America, a real problem. I think now, Turkey is having trouble with this.
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/73/cd/8173cddcc813e203a77f00bae66a211d.png)
FWIW, 2010 map , a bit surprising, there's all kinds of data out there. I'd encourage one to look for more than this.