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Title: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompetent'
Post by: corbe on July 07, 2019, 02:20:02 am
Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompetent'

by Ellie Bufkin

July 06, 2019 09:23 PM

 
Leaked secret cables reveal messages from the United Kingdom's ambassador to the United States making disparaging comments about President Trump.

Sir Kim Darroch, one of the U.K.'s most senior diplomats, referred to the president with several unflattering adjectives, including "inept" and "incompetent," according to cable published by the Daily Mail. "For a man who has risen to the highest office on the planet, President Trump radiates insecurity," Darroch also said.

In other messages from the ambassador meant to be seen only by the British government, Darroch, 65, was deeply critical of Trump's administration and legacy. In one missive, Darroch said, "We don't really believe this Administration is going to become substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable; less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept."

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/leaked-messages-from-uk-ambassador-call-trump-inept-insecure-and-incompetent (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/leaked-messages-from-uk-ambassador-call-trump-inept-insecure-and-incompetent)
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Applewood on July 07, 2019, 03:26:24 am
This revelation will be considered an embarrassment to the UK and Sir Kim will be out of a job. 

Too bad. I suspect his take on Trump and his administration reflects those of most in Europe, particularly leaders, even though they won't or can't say so in public. 

Look for Trump to issue another of his childish, nasty tweets in response in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: edpc on July 07, 2019, 05:32:38 am
He was being kind.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: catfish1957 on July 07, 2019, 06:19:23 am
Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompetent'

by Ellie Bufkin

July 06, 2019 09:23 PM

 
Leaked secret cables reveal messages from the United Kingdom's ambassador to the United States making disparaging comments about President Trump.

Sir Kim Darroch, one of the U.K.'s most senior diplomats, referred to the president with several unflattering adjectives, including "inept" and "incompetent," according to cable published by the Daily Mail. "For a man who has risen to the highest office on the planet, President Trump radiates insecurity," Darroch also said.

In other messages from the ambassador meant to be seen only by the British government, Darroch, 65, was deeply critical of Trump's administration and legacy. In one missive, Darroch said, "We don't really believe this Administration is going to become substantially more normal; less dysfunctional; less unpredictable; less faction riven; less diplomatically clumsy and inept."

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/leaked-messages-from-uk-ambassador-call-trump-inept-insecure-and-incompetent (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/leaked-messages-from-uk-ambassador-call-trump-inept-insecure-and-incompetent)

In this ambassador's defense, he pretty much hit the the nail on the head.  Probably not the smartest thing to share, even under the note heading of "Secret"
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Sighlass on July 07, 2019, 07:01:45 am
Character matters, and it sounds like this fellow got his job due to uncanny ability to judge and elaborate it truthfully.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: catfish1957 on July 07, 2019, 02:52:40 pm
Character matters, and it sounds like this fellow got his job due to uncanny ability to judge and elaborate it truthfully.

Yep, and in the world of diplomacy, brutal honesty will get your fired.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Applewood on July 07, 2019, 03:19:17 pm
In this ambassador's defense, he pretty much hit the the nail on the head.  Probably not the smartest thing to share, even under the note heading of "Secret"

These days, nothing is "Top Secret," "Privileged" and/or "Confidential."  Leaks abound.  Wonder who leaked these communications.  A political enemy, perhaps?
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: corbe on July 07, 2019, 03:31:45 pm
In Leaked Memos, British Ambassador To The U.S. Calls Trump ‘Inept, ‘Insecure,’ Says Administration Is ‘Dysfunctional’

Posted at 11:00 am on July 7, 2019 by Elizabeth Vaughn


.......


The British FCO issued the following statement about the leaked documents:
Quote
The British public would expect our Ambassadors to provide Ministers with an honest, unvarnished assessment of the politics in their country.

Their views are not necessarily the views of Ministers or indeed the government. But we pay them to be candid. Just as the US Ambassador here will send back his reading of Westminster politics and personalities.

Of course we would expect such advice to be handled by Ministers and civil servants in the right way and it’s important that our Ambassadors can offer their advice and for it remain confidential. Our team in Washington have strong relations with the White House and no doubt that these will withstand such mischievous behavior.

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https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/07/07/leaked-memos-british-ambassador-u.s.-calls-trump-inept-insecure-says-administration-dysfunctional (https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/07/07/leaked-memos-british-ambassador-u.s.-calls-trump-inept-insecure-says-administration-dysfunctional)
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Bigun on July 07, 2019, 04:55:18 pm
In Leaked Memos, British Ambassador To The U.S. Calls Trump ‘Inept, ‘Insecure,’ Says Administration Is ‘Dysfunctional’

Posted at 11:00 am on July 7, 2019 by Elizabeth Vaughn


.......


The British FCO issued the following statement about the leaked documents:
<..snip..>

https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/07/07/leaked-memos-british-ambassador-u.s.-calls-trump-inept-insecure-says-administration-dysfunctional (https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/07/07/leaked-memos-british-ambassador-u.s.-calls-trump-inept-insecure-says-administration-dysfunctional)

Could you please advise me as to why should I give one hoot in hell what some light in the loafers British ambassador thinks about anything or anyone @corbe?
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: corbe on July 07, 2019, 05:33:37 pm
  You should care @Bigun because if those limey bastards complete the Brexit process thus destroying the EU they'll come after us NEXT. 
  In other Words, I got nothing as to why you should care.   :beer:
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Bigun on July 07, 2019, 05:38:17 pm
  You should care @Bigun because if those limey bastards complete the Brexit process thus destroying the EU they'll come after us NEXT. 
  In other Words, I got nothing as to why you should care.   :beer:

 :mauslaff:   :beer:
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Bill Cipher on July 07, 2019, 05:51:50 pm
One wonders how these cables got leaked.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Bigun on July 07, 2019, 05:54:52 pm
One wonders how these cables got leaked.

 :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:  :whistle:
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: TomSea on July 07, 2019, 06:17:07 pm
UK Steele helped prepare that dossier, the government under May and Cameron have got to be called somewhat centrist despite having the Tory label.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Fishrrman on July 07, 2019, 10:14:32 pm
Just mention of the name "Great Britain" conjures up thoughts of "incompetence" these days.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Bill Cipher on July 07, 2019, 10:16:13 pm
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:  :whistle:

Leaking diplomatic cables is not a light matter, no matter the country. 
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Sanguine on July 07, 2019, 10:32:23 pm
Surely this wouldn't have anything to do with the abuse of Five Eyes stuff?
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: mystery-ak on July 07, 2019, 11:13:09 pm
Trump: 'We're not big fans' of UK's ambassador to the US
by Tim Pearce
 | July 07, 2019 05:10 PM



President Trump criticized the U.K. Ambassador to the U.S. Sir Kim Darroch after Darroch called the president "inept" and "incompetent" in leaked messages.

Trump spoke to reporters Sunday, saying that Darroch had done a poor job of serving the United Kingdom's interests in the United States. Trump also said he had not seen the messages that were first reported in the press on Saturday.

"We've had our little ins-and-outs with a couple of countries, and I would say that the U.K. and the ambassador has not served the U.K. well," Trump said. "We're not big fans of that man, and he has not served the U.K. well."

"I can say things about him, but I won’t bother," Trump concluded.

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-were-not-big-fans-of-uks-ambassador-to-the-us (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-were-not-big-fans-of-uks-ambassador-to-the-us)
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: EdJames on July 08, 2019, 12:01:30 am
No one gives a tinker's damn about what this inbred limey bastard has to say...
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Sanguine on July 08, 2019, 12:13:03 am
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DAN #MAGAveteran Retweeted
George Papadopoulos
‏ @GeorgePapa19
3h3 hours ago

The US-UK scandal that is going to hit headlines this week is about the MI6, in coordination with the CIA, running Stefan Halper at me in London.
90 replies 1,064 retweets 2,953 likes
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 08, 2019, 01:07:15 am
No one gives a tinker's damn about what this inbred limey bastard has to say...

Actually, if this inbred limey bastard had wonderful things to say about the POTUS, I'd be concerned @EdJames

But this pleases me.   happy77
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: EdJames on July 08, 2019, 01:20:56 am
Actually, if this inbred limey bastard had wonderful things to say about the POTUS, I'd be concerned @EdJames

But this pleases me.   happy77

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: corbe on July 08, 2019, 01:23:49 am
   Jeez, you two, second time today, yall need to go get a (private) room.   wink777
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Absalom on July 08, 2019, 03:25:10 am
Trump and Reality occupy opposite ends of the Universe.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: edpc on July 08, 2019, 10:42:19 am
Asked about the leak, Trump told reporters in the US: "The ambassador has not served the UK well, I can tell you that.

"We are not big fans of that man and he has not served the UK well. So I can understand it, and I can say things about him but I won't bother."


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-hits-back-uks-top-envoy-calls-white-235328017.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-hits-back-uks-top-envoy-calls-white-235328017.html)


BS. He’ll bother. Nothing is being said right now, because he’s not entirely sure who the guy actually is, right now. Once he’s fully briefed, expect the tweet storm.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: mystery-ak on July 08, 2019, 07:17:22 pm
Trump says he will 'no longer deal with' UK's ambassador to US
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/452024-trump-says-he-will-no-longer-deal-with-the-uks-ambassador-to-the-us
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Applewood on July 08, 2019, 07:27:31 pm
Awwwwwww!   Baby Trump's widdle feelings are hurt.  Poor baby. 

And he had to take a swipe at PM May too -- about Brexit -- which is not even his concern. 

Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: edpc on July 08, 2019, 07:31:28 pm
He could say things about him, but he doesn’t know him, and he won’t bother. Typical Trump nonsense.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: edpc on July 09, 2019, 01:56:24 pm
The other day, he said he could say things, but wouldn’t bother. Predictably, he stewed over it and bothered.


Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
 
The wacky Ambassador that the U.K. foisted upon the United States is not someone we are thrilled with, a very stupid guy. He should speak to his country, and Prime Minister May, about their failed Brexit negotiation, and not be upset with my criticism of how badly it was...

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
...handled. I told @theresa_may how to do that deal, but she went her own foolish way-was unable to get it done. A disaster! I don’t know the Ambassador but have been told he is a pompous fool. Tell him the USA now has the best Economy & Military  anywhere in the World, by far...

30K
6:48 AM - Jul 9, 2019
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: corbe on July 09, 2019, 02:02:01 pm
   Will he temper his tweets so as to not pizz off the gay mafia or is Rapinoe next?  Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Bigun on July 09, 2019, 02:06:07 pm
The other day, he said he could say things, but wouldn’t bother. Predictably, he stewed over it and bothered.


Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
 
The wacky Ambassador that the U.K. foisted upon the United States is not someone we are thrilled with, a very stupid guy. He should speak to his country, and Prime Minister May, about their failed Brexit negotiation, and not be upset with my criticism of how badly it was...

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
...handled. I told @theresa_may how to do that deal, but she went her own foolish way-was unable to get it done. A disaster! I don’t know the Ambassador but have been told he is a pompous fool. Tell him the USA now has the best Economy & Military  anywhere in the World, by far...

30K
6:48 AM - Jul 9, 2019


I know I'm in the minority here when I say this but I absolutely LOVE how he twists the tales of liberal pukes with his tweets and hope he never stops doing so.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Applewood on July 09, 2019, 02:33:11 pm
I know I'm in the minority here when I say this but I absolutely LOVE how he twists the tales of liberal pukes with his tweets and hope he never stops doing so.

I suppose you have many other Trump supporters in your corner.  I just think his tweets on something like this are childish.  How well does he even know the ambassador?  And was it really necessary to disrespect the outgoing prime minister too?

Yeah, I guess it was because Trump has to say or tweet things like this just to keep fans of his reality tv presidency entertained. 
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Bigun on July 09, 2019, 02:36:40 pm
I suppose you have many other Trump supporters in your corner.  I just think his tweets on something like this are childish.  How well does he even know the ambassador?  And was it really necessary to disrespect the outgoing prime minister too?

Yeah, I guess it was because Trump has to say or tweet things like this just to keep fans of his reality tv presidency entertained.

I have yet to vote for Trump in any election but his twisting the tails of liberals surely does entertain me.  Hope he never stops!  And BTW:  The reason it is SO entertaining to me is their reactions to it.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: jafo2010 on July 09, 2019, 05:44:15 pm
This reminds me of Joe Kennedy.  Kennedy was a fan of Hitler, and made his mindset known, contrary to FDR's mindset.  He was replaced by FDR, and I expect we will see the same here.

As much as Trump's antics infuriate most people, he is POTUS, and Great Britain will cater to his whims at some point.

And as juvenile as Trump is at times, always smacking back at those that openly attack him, he is light years better than anything in the Democommie Party.  In fact, the American people have been hungering for someone to stand up for them and the country, which by and large, event he Republicans have failed to do for decades.  Trump's America First is something that was easy for many to embrace, because we have watched this country and the people of this country get sold out by our elected officials for decades.

We as a nation need to end putting other nations and other people ahead of our own population.  There are a dozen nations in the world that have a high standard of living then we do here in the USA.

I traveled to Germany in 1970 when I was 16, and while only there for three weeks, it was apparent then that all the people I met were living far better than we were here in the USA, and I thought that was wrong.  Their society and many in Europe are living better because they are not spending half their budgets on defense.

That is why Trump is beloved, because despite his frequent childish behavior, there is no mistake he wants to change this world dynamic.  I think the time has come for the USA to charge Japan, Korea, Germany and all of Europe for our services to defend these bums.  From my view, if nations like Germany are not willing to pay their fair share for NATO, etc, they should be charged double!
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: corbe on July 09, 2019, 05:58:44 pm
This reminds me of Joe Kennedy.  Kennedy was a fan of Hitler, and made his mindset known, contrary to FDR's mindset.  He was replaced by FDR, and I expect we will see the same here.

As much as Trump's antics infuriate most people, he is POTUS, and Great Britain will cater to his whims at some point.

And as juvenile as Trump is at times, always smacking back at those that openly attack him, he is light years better than anything in the Democommie Party.  In fact, the American people have been hungering for someone to stand up for them and the country, which by and large, event he Republicans have failed to do for decades.  Trump's America First is something that was easy for many to embrace, because we have watched this country and the people of this country get sold out by our elected officials for decades.

We as a nation need to end putting other nations and other people ahead of our own population.  There are a dozen nations in the world that have a high standard of living then we do here in the USA.

I traveled to Germany in 1970 when I was 16, and while only there for three weeks, it was apparent then that all the people I met were living far better than we were here in the USA, and I thought that was wrong.  Their society and many in Europe are living better because they are not spending half their budgets on defense.

That is why Trump is beloved, because despite his frequent childish behavior, there is no mistake he wants to change this world dynamic.  I think the time has come for the USA to charge Japan, Korea, Germany and all of Europe for our services to defend these bums.  From my view, if nations like Germany are not willing to pay their fair share for NATO, etc, they should be charged double!

   You wrapped that up so very concisely, Thank You @jafo2010

 goopo
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: edpc on July 10, 2019, 11:36:25 am
Kim Darroch resigns: UK ambassador quits after row with Donald Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kim-darroch-uk-ambassador-quits-donald-trump-boris-johnson-110015464.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/kim-darroch-uk-ambassador-quits-donald-trump-boris-johnson-110015464.html)
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Fishrrman on July 11, 2019, 12:35:01 am
Sounds like the errant ambassador has self-destructed.

Ho... hum.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Sanguine on July 11, 2019, 12:46:53 am
Ambassadors should have diplomacy.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: bigheadfred on July 11, 2019, 12:53:46 am
Ambassadors should have diplomacy.

A diploma would be a nice start to a certain degree.
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: corbe on July 11, 2019, 12:57:55 am
   He's lucky he had Diplomatic Immunity and Trump could not just have him 'disappear'.         /s

(https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/06/19/8c7f3c93-de26-46aa-aaa3-28be79337f26/resize/620x465/7eb9eec127f1eaa7afbf3864f559413f/twilight-zone-its-a-good-life.jpg)
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: Bigun on July 11, 2019, 01:07:40 am
   He's lucky he had Diplomatic Immunity and Trump could not just have him 'disappear'.         /s

(https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2014/06/19/8c7f3c93-de26-46aa-aaa3-28be79337f26/resize/620x465/7eb9eec127f1eaa7afbf3864f559413f/twilight-zone-its-a-good-life.jpg)

I think he should be more pizzed at the jackass in the British government who dumped the cables than Trump but that's just me!
Title: Re: Secret cables to London from UK ambassador in Washington describe Trump as 'inept' and 'incompet
Post by: corbe on July 11, 2019, 01:17:20 am
I think he should be more pizzed at the jackass in the British government who dumped the cables than Trump but that's just me!



   May is ultimately responsible and probably leaked them herself, as with Merkle, there is no Love lost there between the three of them.
   I, too, am Ok with that.