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Title: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Elderberry on November 15, 2022, 02:42:23 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxO5FhMeEkw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxO5FhMeEkw)
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Free Vulcan on November 15, 2022, 03:00:31 pm
Just don't bother Ducey with this, he's busy.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 15, 2022, 04:51:06 pm
And in other news.....

Katie Hobbs is, in reality, a martian.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 15, 2022, 06:00:37 pm
And in other news.....

Katie Hobbs is, in reality, a martian.

Keep singing it:  There was no cheating in either 2020 or 2022.  Both elections were fair and square.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 16, 2022, 12:21:42 am
Both elections were fair and square.

If you say so.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 16, 2022, 12:25:34 am
How did officials let this happen.

At a time when suspicions are already at elevated levels, things needed to come off like clockwork.

Cheating or no, these guys need to be fired. 
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Ghost Bear on November 16, 2022, 12:27:08 am
How did officials let this happen.

At a time when suspicions are already at elevated levels, things needed to come off like clockwork.

Cheating or no, these guys need to be fired.

How did they let it happen? Simple, they are in on it.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 16, 2022, 12:32:41 am
Yeah, let's screw things up so that the it appears we are cheating (because we are).

Let's not be clever and give the right no reason to think we are cheating.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 16, 2022, 06:09:33 am
With chaos comes opportunity.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 16, 2022, 04:25:35 pm
If you say so.

I don't.  You do.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 16, 2022, 07:18:36 pm
No wonder we are in such deep crap.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 16, 2022, 08:41:03 pm
With chaos comes opportunity.

I get that.

But, when you already have all eyes on you because of the mess 2020 was.....do you really believe you can pull it off ?

Do you really think that is the best way ?

Another question.....are you emboldened by the fact that we've had two years election denial talk that has essentially desensitized people to the point that you feel you can cheat, knowing that some might squawk....but most people won't care to listen ?
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Hoodat on November 16, 2022, 08:45:53 pm
But, when you already have all eyes on you . . .

Your premise is flawed.  I would love to see what is happening behind closed doors to all those ballots that didn't get counted because someone intentionally left the toner cartridges empty in Republican precincts.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Bigun on November 16, 2022, 09:26:23 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 17, 2022, 01:49:52 am
I don't.  You do.

I didn't say that.

Stop putting words in my mouth.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 17, 2022, 02:12:03 am
I get that.

But, when you already have all eyes on you because of the mess 2020 was.....do you really believe you can pull it off ?

Do you really think that is the best way ?

Another question.....are you emboldened by the fact that we've had two years election denial talk that has essentially desensitized people to the point that you feel you can cheat, knowing that some might squawk....but most people won't care to listen ?
Sure. Pull some outrageously egregious minor scam in one place as a diversion and do the heavy cheating quietly somewhere else. Play down all reports of irregularity as being minor. Cruise past "GO" and collect again. This isn't the first or second time, it's is just more widespread and, of necessity, more outrageous.

For two years the Media have been spewing that those who believe the 2020 election was stolen are liars. Those who don't care to look, won't.

Doesn't that piss you off, even a little bit--especially when there is evidence out there for any who will look to see?
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Hoodat on November 17, 2022, 02:13:47 am
Damn election fraud deniers.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 17, 2022, 02:55:21 am
Sure. Pull some outrageously egregious minor scam in one place as a diversion and do the heavy cheating quietly somewhere else. Play down all reports of irregularity as being minor. Cruise past "GO" and collect again. This isn't the first or second time, it's is just more widespread and, of necessity, more outrageous.

For two years the Media have been spewing that those who believe the 2020 election was stolen are liars. Those who don't care to look, won't.

Doesn't that piss you off, even a little bit--especially when there is evidence out there for any who will look to see?

What bothers me is that is that it's in the press alerady. 

Kari Lake should not be doing anything more than gathering the proof she needs.

THEN she goes to the media.

Otherwise, the media just chews up those who are emotionally angry that they lost and spouting the word cheating with no real evidence to present. 

The media isn't the friend of the right.

If we give them something large and heavy to beat us with.....they will do it repeatedly.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Hoodat on November 17, 2022, 03:12:37 am
What bothers me is that is that it's in the press alerady. 

Kari Lake should not be doing anything more than gathering the proof she needs.

How do you propose she does that?  Do you think Maricopa county would be willing to hand her the ballots so that she could do a recount?  Or maybe a list of the people whose job it was to make sure each machine had enough toner in it?  Or maybe a video showing how many ballots happened to show up to the counting centers after the deadline had passed?  I'm sure all this info is publicly available.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: GtHawk on November 17, 2022, 04:36:18 am
What bothers me is that is that it's in the press alerady. 

Kari Lake should not be doing anything more than gathering the proof she needs.

THEN she goes to the media.

Otherwise, the media just chews up those who are emotionally angry that they lost and spouting the word cheating with no real evidence to present. 

The media isn't the friend of the right.

If we give them something large and heavy to beat us with.....they will do it repeatedly.
Yeah riiight the media, the fourth branch of the democrat government media, that media? I'm sure they would believe any proof that was put in front of them just like the proof of cheating in multiple states that stole the 2020 election.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 17, 2022, 05:02:29 am
Yeah riiight the media, the fourth branch of the democrat government media, that media? I'm sure they would believe any proof that was put in front of them just like the proof of cheating in multiple states that stole the 2020 election.

Fair point.

How you would then get your proof out or leverage it to drive some kind of action I can't answer.

But to your point, why are those who are concerned with the elections showing their hands with unfounded accusations (which is not all accusations) that only give the press someone else to mock and demean all the while desensitinzing the public to the message that something is going on.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 17, 2022, 05:04:41 am
We certainly need a better audit and oversight process.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 17, 2022, 05:16:13 am
Yeah riiight the media, the fourth branch of the democrat government media, that media? I'm sure they would believe any proof that was put in front of them just like the proof of cheating in multiple states that stole the 2020 election.
That's the same media that cannot reference voter fraud without using words like "Unfounded".

I.e: The failed candidate  provided two truckloads of material claimed to support unfounded allegations of voter fraud.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Free Vulcan on November 17, 2022, 08:45:00 am
We certainly need a better audit and oversight process.

That is the biggest part of the problem. While I don't like mail-in ballots, it doesn't matter if it's a million mail-in or election night ballots if there is no oversight of their counting.

If according to TGP Maricopa did collect and count ballots in an unsecure printing business with no oversight or transparency, then we have no idea if the count is legit.

In most states the entire process is full of holes like this.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: jafo2010 on November 17, 2022, 10:50:34 am
The whole nation had rigged elections.

Living with Carter 2.0 on steroids and the American people voted for the Democommies?  NO F*&^ing way!

THE ELECTION WAS RIGGED!  FIXED!  ELECTRONICALLY MANIPULATED!
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 17, 2022, 04:07:07 pm
I didn't say that.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

I'm not doing that, your words speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 17, 2022, 08:07:56 pm
Lake has not conceded and it appears she won't.

She's indicated she's pulling together a legal team to look over her options and explore voting issues.

I applaude her giving everyone the chance to make sure things are Kosher.

I just hope it resolves quickly. 

Of course the media can't stay neutral......

https://news.yahoo.com/lake-refuses-concede-arizona-governors-170523659.html
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 17, 2022, 08:09:32 pm
Gallego just can't keep his fat mouth shut.

I really don't like that guy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/11/15/dem_rep_ruben_gallego_if_kari_lake_wants_to_wallow_and_not_admit_defeat_good_youre_just_a_loser.html
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 17, 2022, 08:10:43 pm
Another great article that points to why we should fire everyone associated with this election.

https://www.realclearflorida.com/articles/2022/11/14/florida_counts_its_ballots_in_hours_so_why_does_arizona_take_days_864565.html
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 17, 2022, 08:11:37 pm
I'm not doing that, your words speak for themselves.

Yeah,

And I never said cheating was O.K. or that there was nothing wrong.

What I DID SAY was that I had seen no evidence of cheating. 
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Hoodat on November 17, 2022, 08:12:29 pm
Lake has not conceded and it appears she won't.

Neither has Dobbs.  And it 'appears' [liberal power word placing emphasis on emotion rather than fact] that Dobbs won't either.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Hoodat on November 17, 2022, 08:13:55 pm
What I DID SAY was that I had seen no evidence of cheating.

Ah, so you didn't see where someone neglected to put fresh toner in voting machines in Republican precincts causing 80-90% of those ballots to be rejected?
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 17, 2022, 08:36:09 pm
Yeah,

And I never said cheating was O.K. or that there was nothing wrong.

What I DID SAY was that I had seen no evidence of cheating.

That's exactly what the Fraud Deniers say.  It utterly ignores everything we discovered after the 2020 fiasco.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Hoodat on November 17, 2022, 09:31:35 pm
That's exactly what the Fraud Deniers say.  It utterly ignores everything we discovered after the 2020 fiasco.

Yep.  I am getting sick and tired of Election Fraud Deniers.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 18, 2022, 01:28:06 am
That's exactly what the Fraud Deniers say.  It utterly ignores everything we discovered after the 2020 fiasco.

Whatever you say......
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: Hoodat on November 18, 2022, 01:45:11 am
Q.E.D.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 18, 2022, 02:23:27 am
It was a given Finchem would not concede. 

He lost by 4.8% points. 

Vote totals for both governor and SOS were close (to within 30,000)

I believe he'll be more of a drag on Lake than a help.
Title: Re: Suspicious activity at Scottsdale voting center
Post by: HikerGuy83 on November 18, 2022, 02:27:26 am
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2022-11-13/arizona-election-deniers-conspiracy-theories-kari-lake-katie-hobbs

The times being apologists for the doofus election officials in AZ.

They should all be fired.

They should have known this thing needed to come off squeaky clean.  No doubts about anything. 

And they screwed it up. 

Now they are "pushing back" on claims of fraud. 

How about claims of "you are incompetent" ?