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General Category => Elections 2020 => Topic started by: mystery-ak on August 29, 2022, 08:02:32 pm
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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1564290160598073344
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Donald Trump: Declare Me Rightful Winner or Redo ‘Fraud’ 2020 Election
Charlie Spiering 29 Aug 2022
President Donald Trump argued Monday that he should be declared the winner of the 2020 election, citing fraud and election interference by the FBI.
The former president pointed to reports that the FBI worked to bury the story about Hunter Biden’s laptop on social media right before the 2020 election.
“This is massive FRAUD & ELECTION INTERFERENCE at a level never seen before in our Country,” Trump wrote on social media.
Trump said the FBI purposefully tried to stop him from winning the 2020 election.
He proposed two solutions.
“REMEDY: Declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal solution, declare the 2020 Election irreparably compromised and have a new Election, immediately!” Trump wrote.
It is unclear how a presidential election would be declared fraudulent and redone through the court system, and unclear whether it is even permissible by the Constitution.
Facebook’s founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed in an interview with podcaster Joe Rogan that the FBI warned his company of an imminent “dump” of “Russian propaganda” putting them on “high alert” right before the Hunter Biden laptop story broke in the days before the 2020 election.
The FBI did not deny Zuckerberg’s story.
Facebook censored the story as disinformation right before the 2020 election although it ultimately proved to be factual.
“Yeah. I mean, it sucks. I mean, it turned out after the fact, I mean the fact-checkers looked into it, no one was able to say it was false, right?” Zuckerberg admitted to Rogan. “So basically it had this period where it was getting less distribution.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/29/donald-trump-declare-me-rightful-winner-or-redo-fraud-2020-election/
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Yeah I saw this. I forgot what it was like when Trump had regular access to a computer. Sigh.
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There has been all sorts of claims of corruption of which to the best of my knowledge, none were ruled by the courts to have any standing for cases to be heard; and that was basically the reaction of SCOTUS.
I don't know what Trump hopes to accomplish by his statement, yes, we know there was massive voter fraud; proving so in a court of law to overturn an election is another issue.
Biden and Harris were sworn in as the President and VP.
As far as I know there is no precedent for overturning an election after a President and VP have resided for nearly 2 years.
Unless he's hinting at rioting and an upheaval then he's opening the door wide open for charges of inciting a riot and leading an insurrection.
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If there is no noise, is there a crime? Will it get corrected if we simply ignore it?
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There are no do-overs.
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I wish he wouldn't do or say this, especially so close to midterms.... 9999hair out0000
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I wish he wouldn't do or say this, especially so close to midterms.... 9999hair out0000
He just can't help himself.
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Yeah I saw this. I forgot what it was like when Trump had regular access to a computer. Sigh.
This is why he must not be the 2024 nominee. He will overly focus on the 2020 election
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I wish he wouldn't do or say this, especially so close to midterms.... 9999hair out0000
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This is why he must not be the 2024 nominee. He will overly focus on the 2020 election
Ok, I've heard enough of why Trump shouldn't be the nominee in '24. That doesn't remedy the stolen election that took place, nor the attack from the leftists, nor the plummeting economy, empty shelves, etc.
So.....please, who has Trump's backbone, tenacity and the ability to get things done that can beat a DEM ticket?? I can guarantee you that it's not going to be Harris and Joe.
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Why shouldn't he point out that there was an immense amount of skulduggery going on during the last election?
Why shouldn't he point out the presence of game changing information withheld at the behest of the corrupt FBI in concert with the same people who have censored information about COVID from day one and continue to censor information that doesn't fit the leftist narrative?
Agree or not with how he has done it, here, but if polls are any indicator, Biden simply would not have received as many votes as claimed had this information gone public and not been suppressed.
Despite Zuckerberg's obvious bias in all this, the very concept that the US DOJ through the FBI was intimidating social media outlets into censorship of information that should have been in the hands of voters, and claiming, once again that it was Russian interference (the same claim used to justify near total surveillance of campaign activities in 2016 and feeding information to opposition candidate's campaign, not to mention all the years of 'investigations') it is essential that the American People realize their sources of information are compromised through the corruption of official agencies.
That corruption continues in the J6 show trial, and other unconstitutional activities being perpetrated by this administration and numerous members of the Congress, also facilitated by the DOJ and others, right down to the Mar-a-Lago raid, not just questionable in its raison d' etre, but in its manner of execution.
We have another election coming up, and the voters can vote for more of the same or start removing the Democrats from office.
I don't think, seriously, that anyone believes the 2020 election will be redone, or that the mechanisms exist to do so, short of unprecedented and unusual means, but once again, recapping the extent of the corruption surrounding the 2020 election is a grand reminder that we, once again face manipulative forces from within the current Administration and agencies, from the Census twisting counts in Dem districts to change the number of seats to the FBI and DOJ, to the very core corruption of kickback relationships involving the Biden family and foreign interests bolstered by the actions of agencies which are supposed to be looking out for our National Security.
That is the point of these mid-terms, to mitigate the corruption in DC by every legal means possible, and that will require reminding the voters of just what they have in office so that the destruction being wrought by this administration can be thwarted in every way legally possible so this nation will endure another two years, from the County level to the Federal. No point of resistance to this destruction is too small, and none too great, provided that resistance is done in such a way as to not justify the ultimate Leftist wet dream, that of total power and the abandonment of our Constitutional Republic in every way for complete, naked totalitarianism. We are perilously close now, and musings such as this can remind America of the stakes involved.
Will this comment be remembered in 2024? Will there be an election in 2024? Much depends on what happens in November.
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Why shouldn't he point out that there was an immense amount of skulduggery going on during the last election?
Why shouldn't he point out the presence of game changing information withheld at the behest of the corrupt FBI in concert with the same people who have censored information about COVID from day one and continue to censor information that doesn't fit the leftist narrative?
Agree or not with how he has done it, here, but if polls are any indicator, Biden simply would not have received as many votes as claimed had this information gone public and not been suppressed.
Despite Zuckerberg's obvious bias in all this, the very concept that the US DOJ through the FBI was intimidating social media outlets into censorship of information that should have been in the hands of voters, and claiming, once again that it was Russian interference (the same claim used to justify near total surveillance of campaign activities in 2016 and feeding information to opposition candidate's campaign, not to mention all the years of 'investigations') it is essential that the American People realize their sources of information are compromised through the corruption of official agencies.
That corruption continues in the J6 show trial, and other unconstitutional activities being perpetrated by this administration and numerous members of the Congress, also facilitated by the DOJ and others, right down to the Mar-a-Lago raid, not just questionable in its raison d' etre, but in its manner of execution.
We have another election coming up, and the voters can vote for more of the same or start removing the Democrats from office.
I don't think, seriously, that anyone believes the 2020 election will be redone, or that the mechanisms exist to do so, short of unprecedented and unusual means, but once again, recapping the extent of the corruption surrounding the 2020 election is a grand reminder that we, once again face manipulative forces from within the current Administration and agencies, from the Census twisting counts in Dem districts to change the number of seats to the FBI and DOJ, to the very core corruption of kickback relationships involving the Biden family and foreign interests bolstered by the actions of agencies which are supposed to be looking out for our National Security.
That is the point of these mid-terms, to mitigate the corruption in DC by every legal means possible, and that will require reminding the voters of just what they have in office so that the destruction being wrought by this administration can be thwarted in every way legally possible so this nation will endure another two years, from the County level to the Federal. No point of resistance to this destruction is too small, and none too great, provided that resistance is done in such a way as to not justify the ultimate Leftist wet dream, that of total power and the abandonment of our Constitutional Republic in every way for complete, naked totalitarianism. We are perilously close now, and musings such as this can remind America of the stakes involved.
Will this comment be remembered in 2024? Will there be an election in 2024? Much depends on what happens in November.
At the rate things are going, I say "no".
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At the rate things are going, I say "no".
Which is all the more reason to slow the slide into the abyss, by every legal means possible. Failure to do so will likely result in other options, none of which are particularly attractive.
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I want to take this opportunity to heap praise on the few magnificent struggles those Conservatives are making within the ranks of the GOP, right now.
It is noticeable and delightful.
With that being said, I have moved on from the Mc's, (McDaniel, McCarthy and McConnell) I find myself watching more exoplanet stuff lately.
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I want to take this opportunity to heap praise on the few magnificent struggles those Conservatives are making within the ranks of the GOP, right now.
It is noticeable and delightful.
With that being said, I have moved on from the Mc's, (McDaniel, McCarthy and McConnell) I find myself watching more exoplanet stuff lately.
We are destroying ourselves from within on a global level.
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I dropped some Mescaline with my GF a few months ago and I envisioned just such a world existed @libertybele ~ globally, which should explain my apprehensive attitude in getting involved in political discussions, at this moment.
I've become quite fatalistic in even my sarcasm, as of late.
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I wish he wouldn't do or say this, especially so close to midterms.... 9999hair out0000
IMO...look around!
It's time to declare 'war' on these People who actually want us dead!
Thank you, Mr. President!!
Demand a redo on the Stolen Election right now, while the FBI and DOJ are on the mat. Scream it so the MSM will have to cover it.
You thought REAGAN-MONDALE was a 'slaughter'?? :laugh:
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Ok, I've heard enough of why Trump shouldn't be the nominee in '24. That doesn't remedy the stolen election that took place, nor the attack from the leftists, nor the plummeting economy, empty shelves, etc.
So.....please, who has Trump's backbone, tenacity and the ability to get things done that can beat a DEM ticket?? I can guarantee you that it's not going to be Harris and Joe.
The sonofabitch is all about him. I'm done Time to move on. Let him cook in his own bacon grease.
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That would surely rip at the very fabric of this once very Constitutional Republic, again~CWII.
Our Gov (Abbott) would probably side, like his predecessor, Steven F. Austin, with the Union.
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I dropped some Mescaline with my GF a few months ago and I envisioned just such a world existed @libertybele ~ globally, which should explain my apprehensive attitude in getting involved in political discussions, at this moment.
I've become quite fatalistic in even my sarcasm, as of late.
You need to be careful .. visions of sugar plums, pink elephants, moon craters, imaginary worlds, zombies of the apocalypse, etc., ... to each his own.
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The sonofabitch is all about him. I'm done Time to move on. Let him cook in his own bacon grease.
Our Republic's goose is cooked -- any ideas then as to who has the ability and the courage that will head us in a better direction?
OR will millions of courageous conservatives rise up and conquer?? (I think we both know the answer to that).
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Our Republic's goose is cooked -- any ideas then as to who has the ability and the courage that will head us in a better direction?
OR will millions of courageous conservatives rise up and conquer?? (I think we both know the answer to that).
To Your dismay, @libertybele and @Wingnut I Hope DeSantis is putting his 2024 Cabinet together. :smokin:
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To Your dismay, @libertybele and @Wingnut I Hope DeSantis is putting his 2024 Cabinet together. :smokin:
@corbe those are almost fighting words ... :laugh: So far, he has indicated that he's not interested. So ...perhaps Cruz, he has the capabilities, but not the popularity.
The leftists are a tough and insane group and anyone in their right mind would think twice about running. Just my opinion.
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Our Republic's goose is cooked -- any ideas then as to who has the ability and the courage that will head us in a better direction?
OR will millions of courageous conservatives rise up and conquer?? (I think we both know the answer to that).
Piss on Trump. The guy lost me at the do-over. A real man would fight fo another day not a bullshit personal vendetta from 2 years ago. The guy is toast\
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Piss on Trump. The guy lost me at the do-over. A real man would fight fo another day not a bullshit personal vendetta from 2 years ago. The guy is toast\
Ok. I'm not arguing your point, but with that being said. Who then? I just don't see anyone in the wings as tough as nails other than DeSantis and FL needs him. I've said it before, this country needs as many conservative governors as possible; that's what's holding our Republic together right now and by a very, very fine thread that is ready to break at any moment.
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Ok. I'm not arguing your point, but with that being said. Who then? I just don't see anyone in the wings as tough as nails other than DeSantis and FL needs him. I've said it before, this country needs as many conservative governors as possible; that's what's holding our Republic together right now and by a very, very fine thread that is ready to break at any moment.
I'm going @sinkspur on this.
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I'm going with Local @Wingnut @GeronL
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I'm going with Local @Wingnut @GeronL
I'll go with @Frank Cannon
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There went that 5 point sympathy bump after the Marlago raid.
This tweet or what ever he is calling a platform must be a joke.
"Do-overs"? WTF????
Well, back to the DeSantis camp I guess.
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There went that 5 point sympathy bump after the Marlago raid.
This tweet or what ever he is calling a platform must be a joke.
"Do-overs"? WTF????
Well, back to the DeSantis camp I guess.
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Me too. I hate sore losers like trump even if he was robbed. Real men move on.
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Me too. I hate sore losers like trump even if he was robbed. Real men move on.
I'd like a do-over of the 1986 NLCS too, but they are all now retired or dead. Not happening.
After this comment tonight, I got to wonder if a screw went loose in 45's head.
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Yea, I could go with Frank, especially if he wears his Fedora.
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Wasn't he on TV, like Trump?
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I'd like a do-over of the 1986 NLCS too, but they are all now retired or dead. Not happening.
After this comment tonight, I got to wonder if a screw went loose in 45's head.
He went full retard.
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He went full retard.
Bonus +25 for RDJ's greatest role.
(https://i.imgflip.com/k97mx.jpg)
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Ivanka is definitely back from the Swiss Alps.
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He went full retard.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-04-2020/tDwzYEJ.jpg)
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Who do you think he's trolling here?
(https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/108/908/052/820/339/302/original/1a50b34e165239e5.jpg)
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Who do you think he's trolling here?
(https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/108/908/052/820/339/302/original/1a50b34e165239e5.jpg)
Losers blame. Winners learn and move on.
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Who do you think he's trolling here?
Honestly?
Most of us who strongly came to his defense after the Marlago Raid. He has made us look like fools with this silly "do-over" bullshit.
I think this raid caused him to snap. No sane politican would say this kind of silliness.
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The sonofabitch is all about him. I'm done Time to move on. Let him cook in his own bacon grease.
88devil I love how you still believe you and yours are not in the pan.
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Honestly?
Most of us who strongly came to his defense after the Marlago Raid. He has made us look like fools with this silly "do-over" bullshit.
I think this raid caused him to snap. No sane politican would say this kind of silliness.
He is a rat in a corner.
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88devil I love how you still believe you and yours are not in the pan.
You trump leg humping POS.
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You trump leg humping POS.
I really was wanting Trump in a way because I thought he would be the most agressive in bush-hogging the swamp.
Now I am thinking he's gone off the rails, and gone bat shit crazy. He'll long regret tonight's comments.
Best thing Trump could do right now?
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I really was wanting Trump in a way because I thought he would be the most agressive in bush-hogging the swamp.
Now I am thinking he's gone off the rails, and gone bat shit crazy. He'll long regret tonight's comments.
Best thing Trump could do right now?
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Trump has lost his mind. But the true believers will give him a pass.
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Honestly?
Most of us who strongly came to his defense after the Marlago Raid. He has made us look like fools with this silly "do-over" bullshit.
I think this raid caused him to snap. No sane politican would say this kind of silliness.
It boggles the mind that after all these years so many still don't get how Trump uses social media --- and why the State removed his posting "privileges"
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Trump has lost his mind. But the true believers will give him a pass.
Still arguing like it's 2015 --- and Trump has "lost his mind"?? 000hehehehe
@Wingnut
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It is this bad for all Republicans that even 'act' somewhat Conservative, they will try to kill you.
Trump use to call in Radio Stations as an Allias to generate PR in the 70/80's, back when hellary thought he'd make a great President.
EGO/Brand have always been the most important thing to him.
I'd say put him in as AG, to seek his revenge on the Agency that had the most Vendetta, but I would rather Cruz there in a DeSantis Administration.
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You trump leg humping POS.
You really should consider posting while sober @Wingnut --- at least once for the experience
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You trump leg humping POS.
@Wingnut
??? Seriously...
WTF is wrong with you?
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It’s not about Trump, it’s about a stolen election. But, don’t worry, nothing to see here.
Better yet, just close your eyes. The bogeyman can’t hurt you if your eyes are shut. Really.
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It’s not about Trump, it’s about a stolen election. But, don’t worry, nothing to see here.
Better yet, just close your eyes. The bogeyman can’t hurt you if your eyes are shut. Really.
Yes, most of us acknowledge that an election was stolen, however, there is no do over. The courts have ruled against their being a stolen election - so there is no remedy other than rioting and insurrection. That is not going to end favorably. People are still sitting in jail cells accused of insurrection on J6.
This is one of those times that IMO Trump spoke heatedly. I get he was justified, but IMO, instead he should be planning his next moves if he intends to run again. IF those on his legal team have told him that there is precedent to 'redo' an election, then he should be silently taking steps to do just that and hit the leftists with all he has.
IF there is any chance of the GOP making any strides in the mid terms and seeking some sort of restitution and righting some wrongs then he needs to continue to back candidates.
I feel with Mitch in the Senate there is little hope of growing a GOP majority, so without the power of a Senate majority as well, little if anything will be done.
I think Trump needs to realize that -- again if his intent was to rally people to riot and make demands, it's not going to end well, unless we are prepared as a country for a complete Revolution which goes beyond a Constitutional Convention, which in my opinion wouldn't be successful anyways because of liberal legislators.
Do you think millions of conservatives are courageous enough and organized enough to rise up @aligncare ??
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Yes, most of us acknowledge that an election was stolen, however, there is no do over. The courts have ruled against their being a stolen election - so there is no remedy other than rioting and insurrection. That is not going to end favorably. People are still sitting in jail cells accused of insurrection on J6.
This is one of those times that IMO Trump spoke heatedly. I get he was justified, but IMO, instead he should be planning his next moves if he intends to run again. IF those on his legal team have told him that there is precedent to 'redo' an election, then he should be silently taking steps to do just that and hit the leftists with all he has.
IF there is any chance of the GOP making any strides in the mid terms and seeking some sort of restitution and righting some wrongs then he needs to continue to back candidates.
I feel with Mitch in the Senate there is little hope of growing a GOP majority, so without the power of a Senate majority as well, little if anything will be done.
I think Trump needs to realize that -- again if his intent was to rally people to riot and make demands, it's not going to end well, unless we are prepared as a country for a complete Revolution which goes beyond a Constitutional Convention, which in my opinion wouldn't be successful anyways because of liberal legislators.
Do you think millions of conservatives are courageous enough and organized enough to rise up @aligncare ??
Well stated, and I agree 100%. Trump would have came across much better, if he tweeted, This thing was stolen, but that is now water under the bridge. I now challenge every patriotic American to come to the defense of its constitution, its electoral institutions, and work with me to prevent fraud, even if it means MAGA getting confrontational with the Seditious elements that are stealing our government"
I know the sleazy MSM will view this as a threat of violence. But IMO, let them think that.
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I want a do-over of the 1978 Yankees Red Sox one game playoff, the 1986 World Series, Super Bowl XX, the trade of Babe Ruth to the New York Yankees, the trade of Bobby Orr to the Blackhawks, and every other heartbreaking moment in Boston sports history.
I'm not holding my breath.
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I want a do-over of the 1978 Yankees Red Sox one game playoff, the 1986 World Series, Super Bowl XX, the trade of Babe Ruth to the New York Yankees, the trade of Bobby Orr to the Blackhawks, and every other heartbreaking moment in Boston sports history.
I'm not holding my breath.
lol...look at re:31. Oddly I had a 1986 baseball "do-over" wish too. Lost in the Buckner debacle in the 1986 post season lore was the fact that one umpire (Fred Brocklander) had it in for us in Houston, and stole it for the Mets. By all right Houston should have won the '86 NLCS in 7 games, and met the Red Sox in the WS.
My other do-over? Ban trash cans in the dugouts '16-'17. :cool:
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Trump’s just yanking their chains. He knows he’s not getting a special election. Four years in office his critics still spasm over every pointed remark. But he knows that the point (the 2020 election was dirty) comes across anyway—but with some drama behind it—that’s why he does it.
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If we're doing do-overs I'll take high school and college.
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Trump’s just yanking their chains. He knows he’s not getting a special election. Four years in office his critics still spasm over every pointed remark. But he knows that the point (the 2020 election was dirty) comes across anyway—but with some drama behind it—that’s why he does it.
Trump's chain yanking actually is giving the MSM fodder for their false narrative of Trump electoral subversion.
We need definable action plans and sane leadership going into this crisis, not drama. This a'int a Reality TV show.
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But the true believers will give him a pass.
They’ll claim he’s playing 4000 dimensional chess
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Trump's chain yanking actually is giving the MSM fodder for their false narrative of Trump electoral subversion.
We need definable action plans and sane leadership going into this crisis, not drama. This a'int a Reality TV show.
Exactly. Baiting the MSM when he doesn't have to is a waste of time. Time that could be spent planning his run in '24 or planning strategies if he has one for legally holding them accountable. At best his silence would drive them crazy and they would be scrambling for something to report.
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It boggles the mind that after all these years so many still don't get how Trump uses social media --- and why the State removed his posting "privileges"
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He's running out of options .... :shrug:
With legal peril rising, Trump turns to QAnon and 4chan memes for support
With the Justice Department investigation of his handling of classified documents pressing forward, former President Donald Trump spent Tuesday morning posting dozens of messages to Truth Social, his financially troubled social media platform, and sharing content from QAnon-linked conspiracy theory accounts and 4chan message boards.
Trump posted or reposted more than 60 messages early Tuesday, hours after he demanded on Truth Social that he be declared “the rightful winner” of the 2020 election, amplifying several memes that portrayed him as a political messiah, attacking President Biden and moderate Republicans and portraying Democrats as greater enemies of the state than Russia.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-truth-social-qanon-4chan-memes-messages-184803844.html
Trump's Truth Social barred from Google Play
Google says the platform violates its policies on prohibiting content like physical threats and incitement to violence.
The move makes it difficult for users with Android phones to download the app.
Devin Nunes, the CEO of Truth Social, has previously called Google a "monopoly".
Truth Social launched on Apple's App Store in February, though the roll-out was beset by problems.
However, the app isn't available on Google Play, where the vast majority of apps are downloaded on Android phones.
Last week Truth Social's CEO said the decision on whether the app would be available was "up to the Google Play Store".
But Google says it's down to Truth Social to comply with its rules.
A Google spokesperson told the BBC: "On August 19 we notified Truth Social of several violations of standard policies.
"Having effective systems for moderating user-generated content is a condition of our terms of service for any app to go live on Google Play," they added.
Google says it has offered Truth Social advice on how to fix the problems. Truth Social did not respond to the BBC's request for comment.
Truth Social is often described as a "free speech" platform.
However, for the app to be downloadable on the vast majority of the world's phones it needs to be approved by Apple and Google.
Far from Truth Social being a place of unfettered free speech, the platform in fact has many rules on what you can and cannot say.
In fact, Truth Social has a long list, in its Terms of Service, of things that can and cannot be posted.
The platform was founded by Mr Trump, and is where the former president chooses to post on social media. Mr Trump was banned from Twitter and Facebook after last year's US Capitol riot.
Critics argue that Truth Social has a problem with disinformation and hate speech.
A report released on Monday found 47 verified accounts that promoted QAnon conspiracy theories on the platform.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62733451
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Trump’s just yanking their chains. He knows he’s not getting a special election. Four years in office his critics still spasm over every pointed remark. But he knows that the point (the 2020 election was dirty) comes across anyway—but with some drama behind it—that’s why he does it.
It isn't just that.
It's coulda, shoulda, woulda.....
It provokes the "What IF?" factor and lets people think, if even for a seconds-long flight of fancy, just how different the country would be without the disastrous policies of this administration.
If you aren't on the serious gimmie end of that stick, you are feeling the pain, and the scab just got pulled free.
If you want it to change, you need to vote out the Dems (and the RINOs, too, as much as possible).
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I'm shocked. It's so uncharacteristic for Trump to be sucking all the air out of the room 60+ days before the Midterms. /S
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Trump's Truth Social barred from Google Play
Google says the platform violates its policies on prohibiting content like physical threats and incitement to violence.
The move makes it difficult for users with Android phones to download the app.
Devin Nunes, the CEO of Truth Social, has previously called Google a "monopoly".
Truth Social launched on Apple's App Store in February, though the roll-out was beset by problems.
However, the app isn't available on Google Play, where the vast majority of apps are downloaded on Android phones.
Last week Truth Social's CEO said the decision on whether the app would be available was "up to the Google Play Store".
But Google says it's down to Truth Social to comply with its rules.
A Google spokesperson told the BBC: "On August 19 we notified Truth Social of several violations of standard policies.
"Having effective systems for moderating user-generated content is a condition of our terms of service for any app to go live on Google Play," they added.
Google says it has offered Truth Social advice on how to fix the problems. Truth Social did not respond to the BBC's request for comment.
Truth Social is often described as a "free speech" platform.
However, for the app to be downloadable on the vast majority of the world's phones it needs to be approved by Apple and Google.
Far from Truth Social being a place of unfettered free speech, the platform in fact has many rules on what you can and cannot say.
In fact, Truth Social has a long list, in its Terms of Service, of things that can and cannot be posted.
The platform was founded by Mr Trump, and is where the former president chooses to post on social media. Mr Trump was banned from Twitter and Facebook after last year's US Capitol riot.
Critics argue that Truth Social has a problem with disinformation and hate speech.
A report released on Monday found 47 verified accounts that promoted QAnon conspiracy theories on the platform.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62733451
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Trump's chain yanking actually is giving the MSM fodder for their false narrative of Trump electoral subversion.
We need definable action plans and sane leadership going into this crisis, not drama. This a'int a Reality TV show.
Thank you! I agree.
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Trump's Truth Social barred from Google Play
Google says the platform violates its policies on prohibiting content like physical threats and incitement to violence.
The move makes it difficult for users with Android phones to download the app.
Well, no... not really difficult. Truth Social can host the app on their own site, with instructions for installation - All it really takes is flipping one tick to allow installation from sites other than Google Play...
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I'm shocked. It's so uncharacteristic for Trump to be sucking all the air out of the room 60+ days before the Midterms. /S
I know, right? All the candidates that are on Tumpy's coattails are now obliged to haul all that crap up yet again... An untimely distraction.
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If you aren't on the serious gimmie end of that stick, you are feeling the pain, and the scab just got pulled free.
If you want it to change, you need to vote out the Dems (and the RINOs, too, as much as possible).
Well, no... First there has to be a discernible difference. Claiming to be better than the democrats is a mighty low bar.
Excellence. Not merely better.
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Exactly. Baiting the MSM when he doesn't have to is a waste of time. Time that could be spent planning his run in '24 or planning strategies if he has one for legally holding them accountable. At best his silence would drive them crazy and they would be scrambling for something to report.
The other end of that is that his drama show is precisely why posts about him take up an easy third of posts on this board... Two years and better out of office.
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Trump's chain yanking actually is giving the MSM fodder for their false narrative of Trump electoral subversion.
We need definable action plans and sane leadership going into this crisis, not drama. This a'int a Reality TV show.
That's damnwell right.
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Trump's chain yanking actually is giving the MSM fodder for their false narrative of Trump electoral subversion.
We need definable action plans and sane leadership going into this crisis, not drama. This a'int a Reality TV show.
When, in six years, has the MSM needed anything from Trump for their false narratives @catfish1957 --- when they've got the FBI, DOJ and Big Tech? It would be so refreshing if you'd stop blaming the target.
As for a "definable action plan" and leadership --- that's Trump. He's laid out an election reform stategy and election victory strategy dozens and dozens of times. But, when drawn like a fly to shit only to shiny, inflammatory headlines ---- paving the way for whining and angst and misguided virtue-signalling ---- it's easy to miss the substance millions embrace and applaud.
Listening to or reading a speech, especially on policy, is hard----and not for everyone----but it is certainly worth the effort. Give it a shot.
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I know, right? All the candidates that are on Tumpy's coattails are now obliged to haul all that crap up yet again... An untimely distraction.
Stopping 2020 election fraud is part of their platforms, so stop making up shit.
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I'm shocked. It's so uncharacteristic for Trump to be sucking all the air out of the room 60+ days before the Midterms. /S
Very astute observation... @corbe .... and delivered in fine sarcastic form... bonus points.
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Stopping 2020 election fraud is part of their platforms, so stop making up shit.
I ain't making up shit. 'Part of their platform' is different from 'centerpiece of their platform'
Making it 'all about Tumpy' is going to be a loser.
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When, in six years, has the MSM needed anything from Trump for their false narratives @catfish1957 --- when they've got the FBI, DOJ and Big Tech? It would be so refreshing if you'd stop blaming the target.
As for a "definable action plan" and leadership --- that's Trump. He's laid out an election reform stategy and election victory strategy dozens and dozens of times. But, when drawn like a fly to shit only to shiny, inflammatory headlines ---- paving the way for whining and angst and misguided virtue-signalling ---- it's easy to miss the substance millions embrace and applaud.
Listening to or reading a speech, especially on policy, is hard----and not for everyone----but it is certainly worth the effort. Give it a shot.
Exactly. A soft spoken “Thank you sir, may I have another” isn’t going to cut it. We’re in the fight for our political lives, to expose and correct the rot eating away at our institutions of government. Now is not the time to go all wobbly. Calling out the thieves who stole our election is exactly what we should be doing and building strong associations with like-minded patriots is how we’ll getter done.
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I ain't making up shit. 'Part of their platform' is different from 'centerpiece of their platform' Making it 'all about Tumpy' is going to be a loser.
Yes, you are. You're the one making up the "centerpiece of their platform" shit and flinging it as though it's worth something when it ain't.
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It boggles the mind that after all these years so many still don't get how Trump uses social media --- and why the State removed his posting "privileges"
Very, very true.
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He's running out of options .... :shrug:
With legal peril rising, Trump turns to QAnon and 4chan memes for support
With the Justice Department investigation of his handling of classified documents pressing forward, former President Donald Trump spent Tuesday morning posting dozens of messages to Truth Social, his financially troubled social media platform, and sharing content from QAnon-linked conspiracy theory accounts and 4chan message boards.
Trump posted or reposted more than 60 messages early Tuesday, hours after he demanded on Truth Social that he be declared “the rightful winner” of the 2020 election, amplifying several memes that portrayed him as a political messiah, attacking President Biden and moderate Republicans and portraying Democrats as greater enemies of the state than Russia.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-truth-social-qanon-4chan-memes-messages-184803844.html
Trump's Truth Social barred from Google Play
Google says the platform violates its policies on prohibiting content like physical threats and incitement to violence.
The move makes it difficult for users with Android phones to download the app.
Devin Nunes, the CEO of Truth Social, has previously called Google a "monopoly".
Truth Social launched on Apple's App Store in February, though the roll-out was beset by problems.
However, the app isn't available on Google Play, where the vast majority of apps are downloaded on Android phones.
Last week Truth Social's CEO said the decision on whether the app would be available was "up to the Google Play Store".
But Google says it's down to Truth Social to comply with its rules.
A Google spokesperson told the BBC: "On August 19 we notified Truth Social of several violations of standard policies.
"Having effective systems for moderating user-generated content is a condition of our terms of service for any app to go live on Google Play," they added.
Google says it has offered Truth Social advice on how to fix the problems. Truth Social did not respond to the BBC's request for comment.
Truth Social is often described as a "free speech" platform.
However, for the app to be downloadable on the vast majority of the world's phones it needs to be approved by Apple and Google.
Far from Truth Social being a place of unfettered free speech, the platform in fact has many rules on what you can and cannot say.
In fact, Truth Social has a long list, in its Terms of Service, of things that can and cannot be posted.
The platform was founded by Mr Trump, and is where the former president chooses to post on social media. Mr Trump was banned from Twitter and Facebook after last year's US Capitol riot.
Critics argue that Truth Social has a problem with disinformation and hate speech.
A report released on Monday found 47 verified accounts that promoted QAnon conspiracy theories on the platform.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62733451
They should have developed a web-app first, before going with the downloadable separate apps.
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Yes, you are. You're the one making up the "centerpiece of their platform" shit and flinging it as though it's worth something when it ain't.
NONSENSE. Bringing this forward NOW, in the last 60 days before the election is doing exactly that. And the Democrats will retaliate against it by dragging it up on the stump against anyone who stands with him... Which they will now have to defend.
So instead of the election foo-for-raw being a sidebar, with REAL and timely issues to the fore, the whole damn thing, once again, will be about Tumpy and how he was railroaded out of his win... The poor martyr.
And considering I have ONE post on this thread, and many others have expressed similar opinions, I dare say it ain't far from the truth.
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Listening to or reading a speech, especially on policy, is hard----and not for everyone----but it is certainly worth the effort. Give it a shot.
I have, and they are almost all identical. I....I.....I.... I..... (All about me meglomanical fodder) Zero points for originality.
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I ain't making up shit. 'Part of their platform' is different from 'centerpiece of their platform'
Making it 'all about Tumpy' is going to be a loser.
Remember when our side rightfully made fun of the dims back in 2000 with "Sore Loserman" meme, and scored major points with that?
Stolen, (which I believe did happen), still does not overplay the fact that Americans dislike sore losers. Trump needs to stop whining about 2020, and instead focus on 2024. Saying this was a MSM troll exercise is about the silliest thing I've heard in months.
I've seen him troll. This didn't make the criteria.
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I'm shocked. It's so uncharacteristic for Trump to be sucking all the air out of the room 60+ days before the Midterms. /S
And, by doing such, he’s giving the Democrats a lifeline to distract from their own disastrous policies
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And, by doing such, he’s giving the Democrats a lifeline to distract from their own disastrous policies
Exactly. The fact is, there is probably about 45% of the country who will not vote for Trump under any circumstance. Trump running in '24, as you say, gives them cover to mask the dystiopia they are creating.
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Remember when our side rightfully made fun of the dims back in 2000 with "Sore Loserman" meme, and scored major points with that?
Same when Hitlery claimed being robbed. Mockery ensued.
Stolen, (which I believe did happen), still does not overplay the fact that Americans dislike sore losers. Trump needs to stop whining about 2020, and instead focus on 2024. Saying this was a MSM troll exercise is about the silliest thing I've heard in months.
I've seen him troll. This didn't make the criteria.
I believe it happened too - Evidence in Arizona is irrefutable... And Georgia nearly so.
Doesn't matter if it is true or not in the court of public opinion. Truth lies dead in the streets BECAUSE it is tried in the court of public opinion.
Exactly the wrong court... And only considered viable by populists because that is where they live. Reality has many more dimensions.
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And, by doing such, he’s giving the Democrats a lifeline to distract from their own disastrous policies
pointing-up :yowsa:
This election should be ALL about the disaster the democrats have made, and rubbing their noses in it... And presenting real solutions to correct it.
The last thing that needs to be front and center is the Tumpy Show all over again.
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More points to the dems for predicting the pubs would launch a full-throated defense of Trump, while his team “forgot to mention” several document requests as well as an ignored subpoena. I daresay this country has greater problems than Hunter Biden’s laptop, and fat orange is one of them.
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pointing-up :yowsa:
This election should be ALL about the disaster the democrats have made, and rubbing their noses in it... And presenting real solutions to correct it.
The last thing that needs to be front and center is the Tumpy Show all over again.
:thumbsup:
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pointing-up :yowsa:
This election should be ALL about the disaster the democrats have made, and rubbing their noses in it... And presenting real solutions to correct it.
The last thing that needs to be front and center is the Tumpy Show all over again.
I think Trump also miscalculated how much conservative support (including myself) was just lost who had just rallied to his defense after the Marlargo raid. 10 dimensional chess, my ass.
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I think Trump also miscalculated how much conservative support (including myself) was just lost who had just rallied to his defense after the Marlargo raid. 10 dimensional chess, my ass.
Well we have options now. He doesn't represent conservatism, right?
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pointing-up :yowsa:
This election should be ALL about the disaster the democrats have made, and rubbing their noses in it... And presenting real solutions to correct it.
The last thing that needs to be front and center is the Tumpy Show all over again.
:bingo:
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Well we have options now. He doesn't represent conservatism, right?
I don't consider him the most conservative option, but in the case of rooting out the swamp corruption (the same that is trying destroy him), he still may be our best option.
We as conservatives have to decide which is the more pressing matter. A DJT focusing on 2024, instead of 2020 is more likely to get my primary support.
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NONSENSE. Bringing this forward NOW, in the last 60 days before the election is doing exactly that. And the Democrats will retaliate against it by dragging it up on the stump against anyone who stands with him... Which they will now have to defend.
So instead of the election foo-for-raw being a sidebar, with REAL and timely issues to the fore, the whole damn thing, once again, will be about Tumpy and how he was railroaded out of his win.
You're the one taking the regime's bait ----- the rest of us are aware of the full scope of election issues and the fact that only one team is actually talking about them --- and that team isn't yours.
You ain't nearly as informed as you think you are.
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You're the one taking the regime's bait ----- the rest of us are aware of the full scope of election issues and the fact that only one team is actually talking about them --- and that team isn't yours.
You ain't nearly as informed as you think you are.
Nah... I ain't taking the bait. Y'all are. I said a long time ago, the only election fraud that matters is the fraud you can prove... In a court of law.
Playing games in the court of public opinion is a losing proposition, and always has been.
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I think Trump also miscalculated how much conservative support (including myself) was just lost who had just rallied to his defense after the Marlargo raid. 10 dimensional chess, my ass.
If this causes you to pull your support, then it wasn't real. This country needs patriots with less fear and more fortitude ---- so feel free to pick up the ass you refer to in your post and get out of the way
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Nah... I ain't taking the bait.
You're taking it, chewing on it and spitting it back out.
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You're taking it, chewing on it and spitting it back out.
NOPE. In fact, I long ago believed the fraud occurred. AZ proved it occurred. So did GA, more or less. And Ohio and Michigan and Wisconsin in varied degrees.
You want more than that you must continue to prove it by law - Or you are no different than the liberals that also believe that Tumpy stole the election from Hitlery, and purport to have proved it in the funny papers.
Same exact thing.
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If this causes you to pull your support, then it wasn't real. This country needs patriots with less fear and more fortitude ---- so feel free to pick up the ass you refer to in your post and get out of the way
The longer this thread lasts, the sillier you sound. Calling non-orange koolaid drinking briefers basically cowards is downright insulting.
For the record, I was the 3rd registered GOP voter in the history of my county. Don't lecture me on fortitude or fear.
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NOPE. In fact, I long ago believed the fraud occurred. AZ proved it occurred. So did GA, more or less. And Ohio and Michigan and Wisconsin in varied degrees.
You want more than that you must continue to prove it by law - Or you are no different than the liberals that also believe that Tumpy stole the election from Hitlery, and purport to have proved it in the funny papers.
Same exact thing.
Don't try and change the subject ..... your standard wiggle MO ain't gonna work this time.
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Don't try and change the subject ..... your standard wiggle MO ain't gonna work this time.
I didn't change the subject at all.
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I didn't change the subject at all.
You sure tried.
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You sure tried.
I did no such thing.
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So, are you finally admitting that perhaps you need all Republicans, even the Conservative ones, to push your fat orange populist across the line in 2024?
@Right_in_Virginia
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So, are you finally admitting that perhaps you need all Republicans, even the Conservative ones, to push your fat orange populist across the line in 2024?
@Right_in_Virginia
@corbe I get and understand that you don't like Trump. What is concerning is that there is no one with his experience in dodging all the mudslinging that the left threw at him; impeachments, collusion, insurrection, etc. that has announced or is willing to run.
All eyes are on DeSantis but again, he has stated that he is not interested. So, who do you think the GOP has in their back pocket that can win against the DEMS? I highly doubt that the ticket is going to be Joe/Chuckles again. IMO the leftists will have inserted who they want into the race, my guess is Rice, Jarrett, or Michelle. Also, consider it is likely that amnesty will be granted by then and millions of DEM voters will be itching to cast their first ballot.
So ... if not the fat orange man, then who??
IMO Trump is the best bet., if he weren't such a threat the leftists and RINO's like Cheney wouldn't be after him to try and stop him from running.
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I just lived through 4 years of Trump. For America to give him another 4 years to fix this $hit is just insane. Realizing that this Country has digressed into unchartered territory leaves me very little hope. @libertybele
It would be suicidal for DeSantis to make any public statement about 2024.
Maybe Cruz will develop the courage, again, for Round 2 with a wounded Trump in the Arena, afterall. DeSantis is the Answer.
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... immediately ... 2 years later
He's keeping old grievances fresh to keep people riled up so they'll do his bidding when he blows his dog whistle, which can be heard by Trump's favorite lap dog, Lindsey Graham.
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So, are you finally admitting that perhaps you need all Republicans, even the Conservative ones, to push your fat orange populist across the line in 2024?
@Right_in_Virginia
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The longer this thread lasts, the sillier you sound. Calling non-orange koolaid drinking briefers basically cowards is downright insulting.
For the record, I was the 3rd registered GOP voter in the history of my county. Don't lecture me on fortitude or fear.
I suppose it's possible that in your world nothing says courage and fortitude like surrendering the target of a fascist government to the regime because a tweet confused you @catfish1957 :shrug:
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Incidentally My Favorite Trump autobiography is coming on TCM in about 20 minutes.
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@corbe I get and understand that you don't like Trump. What is concerning is that there is no one with his experience in dodging all the mudslinging that the left threw at him; impeachments, collusion, insurrection, etc. that has announced or is willing to run.
Why would ANYONE be throwing their hat in the ring this soon? The mid terms ain't even done yet. Traditionally 'announcing' is still a YEAR away.
So ... if not the fat orange man, then who??
IMO Trump is the best bet., if he weren't such a threat the leftists and RINO's like Cheney wouldn't be after him to try and stop him from running.
Twenty_Trillion_Dollars.
NEXT.
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Why would ANYONE be throwing their hat in the ring this soon? The mid terms ain't even done yet. Traditionally 'announcing' is still a YEAR away.
Twenty_Trillion_Dollars.
NEXT.
And the added benefit of non-stop, reality tv drama. :laugh:
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And the added benefit of non-stop, reality tv drama. :laugh:
woohoo. Like we need any more of that. *****rollingeyes*****
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After the way they treated Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan and the Bush clan I am not surprised American likes its Republicans to Fight Back but I just think there's a better way to approach this problem, maybe Logic instead of getting down in the ditch with them, of course, I could be wrong.
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Why would ANYONE be throwing their hat in the ring this soon? The mid terms ain't even done yet. Traditionally 'announcing' is still a YEAR away.
Twenty_Trillion_Dollars.
NEXT.
You are correct the mid terms are still a couple of months away and usually candidates don't announce they're running for about a year out from now.
That's not the concern ... again, the concern is who has the stamina, tenacity, and bullet-proof vest that will be needed to withstand the attacks from the leftists? I'm looking around the Senate - possibly Cruz or Paul. Looking around the House, possibly Hawley. Conservative governors need to stay right where they're at.
Conservatives aren't exactly numerous and chomping at the bit to run at any level. We'll see the typical RINO's come '24 (if we make it that far).
You can look at Trump's deficit and sneer and rightfully so, but we didn't have the empty shelves, runaway inflation, economic downturn, and we were energy independent. I'll take that from what we have now and Joe has tacked on another 3 trillion and it sure as heck hasn't gone to help us in the U.S.
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I just lived through 4 years of Trump. For America to give him another 4 years to fix this $hit is just insane. Realizing that this Country has digressed into unchartered territory leaves me very little hope. @libertybele
It would be suicidal for DeSantis to make any public statement about 2024.
Maybe Cruz will develop the courage, again, for Round 2 with a wounded Trump in the Arena, afterall. DeSantis is the Answer.
@corbe you need to remember what things were like under Obama -- enter Trump; lowest unemployment in history, energy independent, revered around the globe, NAFTA re-negotiated, CHINA under control, IRAN nuke deal reversed, etc. Yes COVID hit -- still my opinion that it was inflicted upon us to steal an election and destroy Trump's economy and to allow Joe to bring our country to its knees.
Trump had us headed in the right direction. Again, DeSantis said he's not interested. I doubt he wants to drag his wife and small kids through the wringer.
The market has plunged to a 50 year decline -- though the fed is raising interest rates Powell and the financial gurus have stated that inflation will continue to skyrocket.
President Trump is needed again -- I'm not so sure that he'll be able or eligible to run. IF not we're in trouble.
The DEMS have headed us for the Great Reset -- it has taken a huge chunk out of our small budget and if inflation continues I think we're going to see worse than the Great Depression and possibly become a 3rd world country.
Just my opinion.
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You can look at Trump's deficit and sneer and rightfully so, but we didn't have the empty shelves, runaway inflation, economic downturn, and we were energy independent. I'll take that from what we have now and Joe has tacked on another 3 trillion and it sure as heck hasn't gone to help us in the U.S.
Folks seem to forget, Trump refused to sign those budget busters 3 times wanting congress to fix it. They refused and he was getting heat for shutting down the gov... so that is on congress not Trump
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I suppose it's possible that in your world nothing says courage and fortitude like surrendering the target of a fascist government to the regime because a tweet confused you @catfish1957 :shrug:
@Right_in_Virginia
Sorry... you lost that narrative that the tweet did not constitute a "do-over". Your lack of understanding plain English is pretty puzzling.
Your explanation of it being "trolling" almost has a gaslit feel to it. We all know what Trump meant.
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You are correct the mid terms are still a couple of months away and usually candidates don't announce they're running for about a year out from now.
That's not the concern ... again, the concern is who has the stamina, tenacity, and bullet-proof vest that will be needed to withstand the attacks from the leftists? I'm looking around the Senate - possibly Cruz or Paul. Looking around the House, possibly Hawley. Conservative governors need to stay right where they're at.
Conservatives aren't exactly numerous and chomping at the bit to run at any level. We'll see the typical RINO's come '24 (if we make it that far).
None of that matters *at all* till we know who's running. And it's a looooong time from now before we know that. No sense getting all verklempt about it literally a political age before we know anything. Far better to focus on what's on the plate right now - Because taking the house will tie it in knots, and taking both the house and senate leaves a chance in hell to fight back... And will set the tone for the following silly season you are worried about.
You can look at Trump's deficit and sneer and rightfully so, but we didn't have the empty shelves, runaway inflation, economic downturn, and we were energy independent. I'll take that from what we have now and Joe has tacked on another 3 trillion and it sure as heck hasn't gone to help us in the U.S.
And you don't think the shutdown under Tumpy and the 8T dollars of new debt he presided over have anything to do with that? How much of that massively increased government power, instituted under him, might be at play now?
The way to stop all this is to take the power away, and the only way to take the power is to take the money away... FROM EVERYONE. The one thing all y'all refuse to admit is the very thing that allows the continuity which enables the deep state y'all are so very against - That continuity is directly related to big.gov and NOTHING was done to reduce it in the least.
In fact it INCREASED...
The ONE thing I am precisely sure of is 'TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY'.
ANY increase in government is not to be tolerated. Even toeing the line and breaking even is not enough. REAL and lasting REDUCTION removes the power from them all.
And that, most certainly, is NOT TUMPY.
Twenty friggin trillion dollars and over a quarter more existing debt.
That translates directly to expanded government and deep state power.
NEXT.
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None of that matters *at all* till we know who's running. And it's a looooong time from now before we know that. No sense getting all verklempt about it literally a political age before we know anything. Far better to focus on what's on the plate right now - Because taking the house will tie it in knots, and taking both the house and senate leaves a chance in hell to fight back... And will set the tone for the following silly season you are worried about.
And you don't think the shutdown under Tumpy and the 8T dollars of new debt he presided over have anything to do with that? How much of that massively increased government power, instituted under him, might be at play now?
The way to stop all this is to take the power away, and the only way to take the power is to take the money away... FROM EVERYONE. The one thing all y'all refuse to admit is the very thing that allows the continuity which enables the deep state y'all are so very against - That continuity is directly related to big.gov and NOTHING was done to reduce it in the least.
In fact it INCREASED...
The ONE thing I am precisely sure of is 'TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY'.
ANY increase in government is not to be tolerated. Even toeing the line and breaking even is not enough. REAL and lasting REDUCTION removes the power from them all.
And that, most certainly, is NOT TUMPY.
Twenty friggin trillion dollars and over a quarter more existing debt.
That translates directly to expanded government and deep state power.
NEXT.
@roamer_1 Trump left the shutdown up to the governor's of each state. It was Fauci he insisted that people be masked, social distance and the whole hurrah .... FL and TX shutdown as well, but Abbott and DeSantis saw the crappola that was being flung.
We'll see what happens. We are hurting as a nation and it is going to take a miracle to turn things around -- I'm not so sure that this country is going to come back from the destruction of Joe & Co.
I fear for those who haven't prepared and I fear even more for the upcoming generation. They are the ones who are going to suffer the most.
Long live TEA!!
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@Right_in_Virginia
Sorry... you lost that narrative that the tweet did not constitute a "do-over". Your lack of understanding plain English is pretty puzzling.
@catfish1957 --- I think plain English is grasped by most. Your lack of understanding stems from sarcasm being the highest form of intelligence.
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@catfish1957 --- I think plain English is grasped by most. Your lack of understanding stems from sarcasm being the highest form of intelligence.
Try a new tactic..... Denial is failing.
Equating a "do-over" in the context of DJT's tweet with sarcasm, is just plain silly. You've jumped the shark in your Orange obsessive derangement. Just admit he went unhinged, and went rogue sensically.
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...hmmm..... Well, the words used by Trump calls for a new election and that equates to a 'do over'.
Don't get my wrong, I like Trump and think that he made an excellent President and I'd like to see him run another 4 years; but IMO he sounds like he is becoming unhinged and the leftists are finally getting to him. Just my opinion here.
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That is NOT the remedy. No such remedy exists.
The states certified.
Certified means done. Set in stone. Tough sh*t, too bad, there it is.
That is what cert is *FOR*.
Biteme is the duly elected POTUS.
The only remedy beyond that is investigation and prosecution as a civil matter. And tightening up the election rules so it doesn't happen again.
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I just lived through 4 years of Trump. For America to give him another 4 years to fix this $hit is just insane. Realizing that this Country has digressed into unchartered territory leaves me very little hope. @libertybele
It would be suicidal for DeSantis to make any public statement about 2024.
Maybe Cruz will develop the courage, again, for Round 2 with a wounded Trump in the Arena, afterall. DeSantis is the Answer.
Put down the bong and back away slowly @corbe
He has already proven he's capable of turning this country around in less than one term.
You've had a ringside seat here the past 7 years and haven't learned a damned thing. As soon as you think you see an opening, your hatred for him shines through.
You and @roamer_1 and a couple of others here have no credibility when it comes to President Trump.
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...hmmm..... Well, the words used by Trump calls for a new election and that equates to a 'do over'.
Don't get my wrong, I like Trump and think that he made an excellent President and I'd like to see him run another 4 years; but IMO he sounds like he is becoming unhinged and the leftists are finally getting to him. Just my opinion here.
100% agreement. I'll crawl through glass November 2024 to vote for either Trump or DeSantis. It's just some here try rationalize bizarre Trump behavior for some other motive.
Some just can't fight through the delusion that Trump is flawed in some areas, and immune from snapping under the pressure.
I know I'd be pressed to be able to cope.
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He has already proven he's capable of turning this country around in less than one term.
Turned around @DCPatriot ? REALLY? You've gotta be kidding me.
You and @roamer_1 and a couple of others here have no credibility when it comes to President Trump.
Quite the other way around. Take off the orange colored glasses and look around.
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...hmmm..... Well, the words used by Trump calls for a new election and that equates to a 'do over'.
Don't get my wrong, I like Trump and think that he made an excellent President and I'd like to see him run another 4 years; but IMO he sounds like he is becoming unhinged and the leftists are finally getting to him. Just my opinion here.
So, knowing that no one in doj, congress or the judicial branch will hold anyone accountable for the frauds for the last 7 years, it seems to me that either we just take it and allow it to continue or at least support Trumps "unreasonable" approach to at least keep the issue on the front burner.
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That is NOT the remedy. No such remedy exists.
The states certified.
Certified means done. Set in stone. Tough sh*t, too bad, there it is.
That is what cert is *FOR*.
Biteme is the duly elected POTUS.
The only remedy beyond that is investigation and prosecution as a civil matter. And tightening up the election rules so it doesn't happen again.
@roamer_1
He's speaking to the American voter on the street who is RIGHT NOW, getting a hourly broadcast of our POTUS calling us Nazis and Fascists, with absolutely NO CRITICISM from the mainstream media.
BIDEN IS INSANE!! If he were a Republican the 25th would have been invoked years ago.
Speaking in this language hammers through all the bullshit that the Election wasn't stolen and at a minimum sets the agenda to ensure VOTER CARDS with PHOTO ID and serial number.
Given he has no social media microphone, he's being so outrageously direct....even YOU could understand him.
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That is NOT the remedy. No such remedy exists.
The states certified.
Certified means done. Set in stone. Tough sh*t, too bad, there it is.
That is what cert is *FOR*.
Biteme is the duly elected POTUS.
The only remedy beyond that is investigation and prosecution as a civil matter. And tightening up the election rules so it doesn't happen again.
The remedy should have been through our SCOTUS and they looked the other way.
There isn't precedent for a re-election; where in the Constitution do it allow for a re-election AFTER the newly nominated candidate has been sworn in?
I would think it would be a matter for Congress to enact laws; but clearly that's not going to happen.
You are correct @roamer_1 tightening up the election rules is necessary, but that isn't happening either. Where the heck has the RNC been besides taking a back seat, yet again and doing nothing? Ronna is as worthless as Mittens.
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So, knowing that no one in doj, congress or the judicial branch will hold anyone accountable for the frauds for the last 7 years, it seems to me that either we just take it and allow it to continue or at least support Trumps "unreasonable" approach to at least keep the issue on the front burner.
Valid points.... Solutions?
And OTOH, it would be helpful to his supporters if he chose his words more carefully, and focus on the future rather than the past. Because honestly does anyone on earth believe a "do-over" is in the cards?
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@roamer_1
He's speaking to the American voter on the street who is RIGHT NOW, getting a hourly broadcast of our POTUS calling us Nazis and Fascists, with absolutely NO CRITICISM from the mainstream media.
BIDEN IS INSANE!! If he were a Republican the 25th would have been invoked years ago.
Speaking in this language hammers through all the bullshit that the Election wasn't stolen and at a minimum sets the agenda to ensure VOTER CARDS with PHOTO ID and serial number.
Given he has no social media microphone, he's being so outrageously direct....even YOU could understand him.
Yes Joe is insane and unfortunately he still has supporters, but the current economic blunders that he has created will sink him. People can't feed their families and they are losing their homes. It's going to continue to happen as the recession tightens its grip and inflation continues to soar. He can't blame it on Republicans UNLESS they win the House and Senate and do nothing.
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Valid points.... Solutions?
And OTOH, it would be helpful to his supporters if he chose his words more carefully, and focus on the future rather than the past. Because honestly does anyone on earth believe a "do-over" is in the cards?
I agree with you @catfish1957 Trump needs to focus on the future instead of dwelling on what he did in the past -- if given another term, what will he and the GOP accomplish? He/they need to offer solutions and alternatives.
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I still believe that we crossed that Rubicon, as a Nation, when the GOP 'selected' DJT as their nominee, he was supposed to lose, afterall, but hellarys dominion check bounced.
I'll have to admit we are in a better place than we'd be on the second term of that Witch..
@DCPatriot
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I agree with you @catfish1957 Trump needs to focus on the future instead of dwelling on what he did in the past -- if given another term, what will he and the GOP accomplish? He/they need to offer solutions and alternatives.
Exactly... I want him to be just as brash as ever, but avoid the self inflicted gaffes.
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Yes Joe is insane and unfortunately he still has supporters, but the current economic blunders that he has created will sink him. People can't feed their families and they are losing their homes. It's going to continue to happen as the recession tightens its grip and inflation continues to soar. He can't blame it on Republicans UNLESS they win the House and Senate and do nothing.
??? "Economic Blunders"???
What the heck are we talking about here?
All the American voter knows is that gas was about $2.20 @ gallon and even the illegal immigrants were realizing their "American Dream"...and they will remember it the same way you...me...and @roamer_1 and @Bigun remember how Ronald Reagan changed our lives for the better.
President Trump was put in an intenable position with the DNC/CCCP "Covid-19" Coup.
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??? "Economic Blunders"???
What the heck are we talking about here?
All the American voter knows is that gas was about $2.20 @ gallon and even the illegal immigrants were realizing their "American Dream"...and they will remember it the same way you...me...and @roamer_1 and @Bigun remember how Ronald Reagan changed our lives for the better.
President Trump was put in an intenable position with the DNC/CCCP "Covid-19" Coup.
??? I'm agreeing with you and yes absolutely, unequivocally Trump was put in an untenable position with the coup -- in fact I believe there were several coups that he contended with and overcame, and I had voiced that opinion a couple of times. The COVID coup though is the one that did us in.
Where is the push back from the GOP?? Many RINO's were involved as well in that coup; Pence, McConnell, McCarthy....etc.
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??? I'm agreeing with you and yes absolutely, unequivocally Trump was put in an untenable position with the coup -- in fact I believe there were several coups that he contended with and overcame, and I had voiced that opinion a couple of times. The COVID coup though is the one that did us in.
Where is the push back from the GOP?? Many RINO's were involved as well in that coup; Pence, McConnell, McCarthy....etc.
They are hiding... probably involved in the coup
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??? I'm agreeing with you and yes absolutely, unequivocally Trump was put in an untenable position with the coup -- in fact I believe there were several coups that he contended with and overcame, and I had voiced that opinion a couple of times. The COVID coup though is the one that did us in.
Where is the push back from the GOP?? Many RINO's were involved as well in that coup; Pence, McConnell, McCarthy....etc.
??? DUH!!! LOL! I read your post incorrectly...thought you were joining ranks with @roamer_1 implying Pres. Trump was responsible for all the deficit spending.
My BP is sky-high today ...even posted on FB that I am livid with my so-called friends on FB would don't even shout "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!"
This is how Hitler demonized the Jews...here we have a bleep retard for a leader who outright is lighting a fuse to start a Civil War against MAGA supporters.
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Try a new tactic..... Denial is failing.
Equating a "do-over" in the context of DJT's tweet with sarcasm, is just plain silly. You've jumped the shark in your Orange obsessive derangement. Just admit he went unhinged, and went rogue sensically.
I believe from some of your posts here that you are a sports fan of sorts. I am sure that you have long seen and heard of coaches and managers "working the Refs" or "working the Umps."
I suspect that you can recall the kind of hyperbole and "unhinged" rants that those coaches/mangers would employ. Trying as hard as they can to make their points... not only to the Umps or Refs, but to everyone else watching as well. Stuff like: "he was safe BY A MILE!" "Are you BLIND Ump?"
The analogy isn't perfect, but that is how I often read those types of Trump posts... "Did you see what he just said!! OMG!! OMG!!!" and they proceed to talk about his chosen 'point' over and over for days....
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I believe from some of your posts here that you are a sports fan of sorts. I am sure that you have long seen and heard of coaches and managers "working the Refs" or "working the Umps."
I suspect that you can recall the kind of hyperbole and "unhinged" rants that those coaches/mangers would employ. Trying as hard as they can to make their points... not only to the Umps or Refs, but to everyone else watching as well. Stuff like: "he was safe BY A MILE!" "Are you BLIND Ump?"
The analogy isn't perfect, but that is how I often read those types of Trump posts... "Did you see what he just said!! OMG!! OMG!!!" and they proceed to talk about his chosen 'point' over and over for days....
Exactly, @art.prout :beer:
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??? DUH!!! LOL! I read your post incorrectly...thought you were joining ranks with @roamer_1 implying Pres. Trump was responsible for all the deficit spending.
My BP is sky-high today ...even posted on FB that I am livid with my so-called friends on FB would don't even shout "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!"
This is how Hitler demonized the Jews...here we have a bleep retard for a leader who outright is lighting a fuse to start a Civil War against MAGA supporters.
It's ok... @DC Patriot I am very certain that whether one likes Trump or not, it is imperative that ALL conservatives or anyone who realizes what Joe & Company is doing to this country, MUST STAND TOGETHER or we lose. There is no middle road, no middle ground, no room for compromise. Stop playing into their blame game!!! Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, Indian, anti-Trumpers, etc., conservative patriots must stand together. There is power in numbers. Why do you think the leftists are hiring 87,000 weaponized IRS agents? Trump supporters are appx. 80,000,000 strong -- however we need ALL patriots on board. Everyone who wants to put a stop to the Great Reset that is happening before our eyes must unify and stand together.
Ok. I made my point (again). Enough said.
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Guess I'm too old and set in my ways.
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Exactly, @art.prout :beer:
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So, knowing that no one in doj, congress or the judicial branch will hold anyone accountable for the frauds for the last 7 years, it seems to me that either we just take it and allow it to continue or at least support Trumps "unreasonable" approach to at least keep the issue on the front burner.
FAR more than a mere seven years. This sh*t's been going on my whole life.
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@roamer_1
He's speaking to the American voter on the street who is RIGHT NOW, getting a hourly broadcast of our POTUS calling us Nazis and Fascists, with absolutely NO CRITICISM from the mainstream media.
BIDEN IS INSANE!! If he were a Republican the 25th would have been invoked years ago.
Speaking in this language hammers through all the bullshit that the Election wasn't stolen and at a minimum sets the agenda to ensure VOTER CARDS with PHOTO ID and serial number.
Given he has no social media microphone, he's being so outrageously direct....even YOU could understand him.
HAHAHAHAHA! Ooh look! Tumpsplainin!
Well thanks for that beautiful translation. No wonder I needed help with it - He didn't actually say any-damn-thing like that. At all.
What, did y'all get a decoder ring or something?
And WTF do the American People have to do with any thing now? Whatever the election laws are, they are. Most legislatures are gone home for the summer. No laws getting changed this far along.
@DCPatriot :seeya:
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The remedy should have been through our SCOTUS and they looked the other way.
No...
There isn't precedent for a re-election; where in the Constitution do it allow for a re-election AFTER the newly nominated candidate has been sworn in?
No such thing that I know of. There is a period of challenge, but it is long gone by the time the swearing in occurs. BY DESIGN, a short time.
I would think it would be a matter for Congress to enact laws; but clearly that's not going to happen.
Congress cannot enact laws that are counter to the Constitution. Be careful what you wish for.
You are correct @roamer_1 tightening up the election rules is necessary, but that isn't happening either. Where the heck has the RNC been besides taking a back seat, yet again and doing nothing? Ronna is as worthless as Mittens.
RNC has nothing to do with it. You want to tighten up election laws, look to your elected state legislature. If you want it fixed, that's where it will happen. Not in any federal jurisdiction.
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It's ok... @DC Patriot I am very certain that whether one likes Trump or not, it is imperative that ALL conservatives or anyone who realizes what Joe & Company is doing to this country, MUST STAND TOGETHER or we lose. There is no middle road, no middle ground, no room for compromise. Stop playing into their blame game!!! Black, White, Asian, Hispanic, Indian, anti-Trumpers, etc., conservative patriots must stand together. There is power in numbers. Why do you think the leftists are hiring 87,000 weaponized IRS agents? Trump supporters are appx. 80,000,000 strong -- however we need ALL patriots on board. Everyone who wants to put a stop to the Great Reset that is happening before our eyes must unify and stand together.
Ok. I made my point (again). Enough said.
Then why not raise up a Conservative? Because if y'all put Tumpy up there again You'll get the very same result. Division and discord. And loss (I will bet you).
Unity comes with a candidate that will uphold ALL of the Conservative principles. Find that and a Conservative juggernaut will rise like it hasn't in a generation.
That cannot be Tumpy in any case, because of the damage he has already inflicted upon fiscal conservatism and libertarianism.
So pick another.
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That is NOT the remedy. No such remedy exists.
The states certified.
Certified means done. Set in stone. Tough sh*t, too bad, there it is.
That is what cert is *FOR*.
Biteme is the duly elected POTUS.
The only remedy beyond that is investigation and prosecution as a civil matter. And tightening up the election rules so it doesn't happen again.
Yep, as a matter of fact, I agree. We're stuck.
But such musings promote the thought of "Gee, What IF?"
Suppose we could just make the whole Biden disaster stop.
Suppose it had never started?
But as far as raising up a Conservative, I'm all for it. Let Trump keep throwing bombs from the wings, and using what force he has to help, even.
Now, who you got?
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Trump needs to focus on the future instead of dwelling on what he did in the past -- if given another term, what will he and the GOP accomplish? He/they need to offer solutions and alternatives.
:facepalm2: What are you talking about @libertybele ? Trump makes his agenda clear in every speech and every interview. He doesn't "dwell" on what he accomplished for America in his first term ---- he reminds people what we achieved together, and will do again --- even better than before. It's a hopeful, upbeat, and doable agenda.
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I believe from some of your posts here that you are a sports fan of sorts. I am sure that you have long seen and heard of coaches and managers "working the Refs" or "working the Umps."
I suspect that you can recall the kind of hyperbole and "unhinged" rants that those coaches/mangers would employ. Trying as hard as they can to make their points... not only to the Umps or Refs, but to everyone else watching as well. Stuff like: "he was safe BY A MILE!" "Are you BLIND Ump?"
The analogy isn't perfect, but that is how I often read those types of Trump posts... "Did you see what he just said!! OMG!! OMG!!!" and they proceed to talk about his chosen 'point' over and over for days....
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Then why not raise up a Conservative?
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But as far as raising up a Conservative, I'm all for it. Let Trump keep throwing bombs from the wings, and using what force he has to help, even.
Now, who you got?
Don't know, won't know till we know who's thrown their hat in the ring. Ain't no use speculating and navel gazing.
Used to be different about that, when I had more participation and influence, and knew which candidates were grooming for a run, at least here regionally... But I ain't a Republican anymore, and out of the game now... The last one I tried hard for was Zinke - And while that was a worthy effort, even there I was ancillary to the inside loop.
So now I don't care much till I know who's at bat.
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If you want votes on the right, that's the natural coalition - The ONLY coalition.