The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on August 08, 2020, 08:45:11 pm
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Benny
@bennyjohnson
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BREAKING: President Trump is signing an Executive Order providing a Payroll Tax Holiday for Americans making less than $100,000 a year.
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John Cardillo
@johncardillo
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This presser is @realDonaldTrump
trusting HIS instincts, and not the closet Dems and Never Trumpers around him.
BIG win.
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Lee Zeldin
@RepLeeZeldin
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The President is absolutely correct that the Dems’ inappropriately named “Heroes Act†includes:
-stimulus checks to illegal immigrants
-mass prison release
-nationwide ballot harvesting
-voter ID ban throughout the US
...and some other terrible ideas that must be rejected!
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The White House
@WhiteHouse
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US government account
"We have repeatedly stated our willingness to immediately sign legislation providing expanded unemployment benefits, protecting Americans from eviction, and providing additional relief payments to families.
Democrats have refused these offers."
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Chad Pergram
@ChadPergram
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Trump says his exec order will provide an extra $400 in jobless benefits. States will have to provide $100 of that. This is down from $600 approved in March. “We’re doing this all without the Democrats.â€
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The guy has nads of steel.
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Red Nation Rising
@RedNationRising
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Meet Paula Reid, the triggered selfish journalist who refused to stop asking questions and ultimately ended the press conference.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ee7VEo6WkAEg7O5?format=jpg&name=small)
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Matt Couch
@RealMattCouch
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This idiot on Fox News saying that people really need the extra $600 per week on top of their normal unemployment draw instead of the $400 the President authorized, are MORONS..
I have COUNTLESS friends who own restaurants who can't get anyone to go back to work.. FACTS
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Alex Salvi
@alexsalvinews
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BREAKING: Pres. Trump says he will sign multiple executive actions to provide relief to financially struggling Americans after talks break down on Capitol Hill:
-Cut taxes for workers
-Extend unemployment at reduced rate
-Renew evictions moratorium
-Defer student loan payments
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I think this is going to be a fiasco. Congress still has the power of the purse strings and Pelosi has stated that he just can't move that much money around. Trump states that he'll probably get sued. This e.o. apparently has nothing to do with the stimulus. It includes exemptions from evictions, but what about the mortgage companies and banks and people who own rentals that are dependent on the income from the rentals???
Trump orders $400-per-week unemployment payments amid COVID crisis, hits Dems for stonewalling
President Trump signed four executive orders Saturday aimed at delivering relief to Americans struggling with the economic fallout of the coronavirus while accusing Democrats of stonewalling greater aid.
Trump announced a $400-per-week supplemental unemployment payment to out-of-work Americans -- short of the $600 weekly benefit that expired in the end of July. He unveiled a payroll tax holiday to Americans earning less than $100,000 through the end of the year, an extension of student loan relief to the end of the year and protections from evictions.
Trump blamed Democrats for the coronavirus deal stalemate in Congress and said he'd take matters into his own hands.
"Democrats are obstructing all of it," Trump said. "Therefore I'm taking executive action ...and we're going to save American jobs and provide relief to the American workers.".........
.............Because of provisions in the Constitution that grant the legislative branch spending power, the White House can't just pull hundreds of billions out of the ether without Congressional approval.
But the Trump administration believes it has access to $140 billion which it can “reprogram.†That includes $80 billion in untapped money from the big coronavirus bill signed into law in March and $40 billion from the Disaster Relief Fund.
The White House believes it can divert some of this funding without congressional blessing, similar to how Trump in 2019 declared a national emergency at the border with Mexico to shift billions of dollars from the Pentagon budget to help pay for a border wall.
Pelosi and Schumer earlier this week expressed skepticism about Trump's executive powers."You can't move that much money," Pelosi said. "We're talking about a major investment...............
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-sign-coronavirus-relief-executive-orders-saturday-to-help-unemployed-americans-renters (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-to-sign-coronavirus-relief-executive-orders-saturday-to-help-unemployed-americans-renters)
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If I ever hear another "Trump/GOP Conservative" complaining about EO's I'll just assume they are idiots and discount anything they say... :shrug:
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The guy has nads of steel.
Yes, and I love him for that, as do a lot of other people!
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If I ever hear another "Trump/GOP Conservative" complaining about EO's I'll just assume they are idiots and discount anything they say... :shrug:
Lindsey Graham with the STRONG rebuke of this executive overreach:
“I appreciate the President taking this decisive action but would much prefer a congressional agreement,†Graham wrote. “I believe President Trump would prefer the same.â€
That's too rough, Lindsey! Don't hurt him! :silly:
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Ungh...I think I'm ready for the inevitable end here...just lube those presses and get it over with already.
Just damn.
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I think that the DEMS are going to sue him over this and they will eventually get whatever they want -- the courts have pretty much continually ruled in their favor.
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Pres. Trump "TRUMPED" them.
After 8 years of King Obama Decrees, in this current war environment?
Gotta love it.
Especially once people start to see how much is taken out of the checks when the EO is rescinded/revoked. Talk about getting the Genie back in the bottle. :laugh:
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Pres. Trump "TRUMPED" them.
After 8 years of King Obama Decrees, in this current war environment?
Gotta love it.
Especially once people start to see how much is taken out of the checks when the EO is rescinded/revoked. Talk about getting the Genie back in the bottle. :laugh:
IF he isn't challenged in court and his e.o. actually goes through...yes...it will be a feather in his cap.. I don't see Pelosi and Chuckie allowing this to succeed.
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IF he isn't challenged in court and his e.o. actually goes through...yes...it will be a feather in his cap.. I don't see Pelosi and Chuckie allowing this to succeed.
Chuckie already said they will sue..I am sure by Monday they will find a judge to stop it..that's how they operate..
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Chuckie already said they will sue..I am sure by Monday they will find a judge to stop it..that's how they operate..
Exactly. The MSM is already spinning the news and trying to sway public opinion. This will probably come back to bite Trump but I also think it's a gamble on the part of the DEMS if they challenge this.
Trump attempts to wrest tax and spending powers from Congress with new executive actions
However, they are also stating that the e.o. is to provide $400 in weekly unemployment aid for millions of Americans whose $600 in weekly benefits expired last month. Trump said 25 percent of this money would be paid by states, many of which are already dealing with major budget shortfalls and have pleaded with Congress for more aid. The federal contribution would be redirected from money at the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-attempts-to-wrest-tax-and-spending-powers-from-congress-with-new-executive-actions/ar-BB17JjQI?li=BBnb7Kz (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-attempts-to-wrest-tax-and-spending-powers-from-congress-with-new-executive-actions/ar-BB17JjQI?li=BBnb7Kz)
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I think that the DEMS are going to sue him over this and they will eventually get whatever they want -- the courts have pretty much continually ruled in their favor.
I believe he does have the authority to suspend collection of payroll taxes and he can suspend evictions of govt. housing and not collecting student loans, but he probably loses on the unemployment insurance.
In any case, the Rats will find it a pyrrhic victory.
Trump shows he's trying to help people, while the Rats show they only care about themselves.
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I believe he does have the authority to suspend collection of payroll taxes and he can suspend evictions of govt. housing and not collecting student loans, but he probably loses on the unemployment insurance.
In any case, the Rats will find it a pyrrhic victory.
Trump shows he's trying to help people, while the Rats show they only care about themselves.
Trump is actually helping himself get re-elected, Neither party really cares about the people.
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Graham says he appreciates Trump orders, but 'would much prefer a congressional agreement'
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/511190-graham-appreciates-trump-orders-but-would-much-prefer-a-congressional
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Not the right way to spend money...
The optics are bad for the Dems. Trying to stop Trump from handing out more free money...
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Trump’s political masterstroke [UPDATED]
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/trumps-political-masterstroke.php (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/trumps-political-masterstroke.php)
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Trump’s political masterstroke [UPDATED]
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/trumps-political-masterstroke.php (https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/trumps-political-masterstroke.php)
"The obvious displeasure of The Washington Post is further evidence that Trump has made a smart political move."
Let's hope this ends favorably.
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Ungh...I think I'm ready for the inevitable end here...just lube those presses and get it over with already.
Just damn.
My bad, presses isn't the word I expected after those, but then I realized that our government would never be so gentle as to lube us up before they expletive deleted us.
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Pelosi, Schumer slam Trump executive orders, call for GOP to come back to negotiating table
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/511196-pelosi-schumer-slam-trump-executive-orders-call-for-gop-to-come-back-to
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I've been waiting for this one and expect to hear a lot more about endangering SS
Biden says Trump executive order is 'a reckless war on Social Security'
“He is laying out his roadmap to cutting Social Security,†Biden said. “Our seniors and millions of Americans with disabilities are under enough stress without Trump putting their hard-earned Social Security benefits in doubt.â€
more
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511197-biden-says-trump-executive-orders-are-a-reckless-war-on-social-security
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9 years ago the dems were bi1ching for this:
We Can’t Allow the Payroll Tax Cut and Unemployment Benefits to Expire
Allowing Them to End Will Threaten the Economic Recovery
By Seth Hanlon and Heather Boushey December 19, 2011, 9:00 am
President Barack Obama delivers a statement at the White House, Saturday, December 17, 2011, following the Senate vote to approve legislation continuing the Social Security payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits for two months.
The Senate overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan compromise Saturday to prevent the payroll tax cut and unemployment benefits from expiring at the end of the year. The House will hold a critical vote on the measure later today.
If the House doesn’t approve the measure, the current payroll tax holiday will expire at the end of the year. As a result, taxes will go up for 160 million workers, starting with their first paychecks of 2012. The typical middle-class household tax increase in 2012 will be about $1,000. The combined effect of this across-the-board middle-class tax increase on consumer demand would seriously threaten the fragile economic recovery.
Congressional inaction through 2012 would also cause unemployment insurance benefits to run out for more than 5 million workers. The unemployment rate is still 8.6 percent, and for every one job opening, there are four people actively looking for employment. Cutting off unemployment benefits would not only create vast uncertainty and hardship for affected families, but it would also cause the economy to lose about $50 billion in demand, which would further hinder the recovery and cost more jobs.
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https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2011/12/19/10778/we-cant-allow-the-payroll-tax-cut-and-unemployment-benefits-to-expire/ (https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2011/12/19/10778/we-cant-allow-the-payroll-tax-cut-and-unemployment-benefits-to-expire/)
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I believe he does have the authority to suspend collection of payroll taxes and he can suspend evictions of govt. housing and not collecting student loans, but he probably loses on the unemployment insurance.
In any case, the Rats will find it a pyrrhic victory.
Trump shows he's trying to help people, while the Rats show they only care about themselves.
Agree. Funny how Obama e.o.s can stay, but not POTUS TRUMP. (DACA) So it seems , our legislature, (congress) and Judicial branch....is THE SWAMP! 2 AGAINST ONE POTUS. Then we have N.T.'S...who have zero clue and can only think about their feelings. Their virtue signaling, while our country DIES.
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I think that the DEMS are going to sue him over this and they will eventually get whatever they want -- the courts have pretty much continually ruled in their favor.
Maybe so, but isn't it hilarious that the rats are suddenly worried about constitutionality of anything the government has done Covid related now. After we’ve had our businesses shut down, been consigned to our homes, forced to wear masks on pain of fine, freedom of worship and association stripped, etc etc
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I've been waiting for this one and expect to hear a lot more about endangering SS
Biden says Trump executive order is 'a reckless war on Social Security'
more
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511197-biden-says-trump-executive-orders-are-a-reckless-war-on-social-security
Wrong. Do people know, that there is a cap on fica tax for the wealthy? Social Security can be saved for the future if THAT is changed, raised. It was about $120,000.00 for the wealthy, as their cut off. I don't know about today. $150,000.00?
After that all their thousands, millions are NOT FICA TAXED....like JOE BIDENS. LIKE ON ANY CONGRESS PEOPLE, WHO MAKE THOSE LAWS.
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Maybe so, but isn't it hilarious that the rats are suddenly worried about constitutionality of anything the government has done Covid related now. After we’ve had our businesses shut down, been consigned to our homes, forced to wear masks on pain of fine, freedom of worship and association stripped, etc etc
Hilarious? I think more like pathetic. :shrug: Yes, I see the irony of it all.
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Trump is actually helping himself get re-elected, Neither party really cares about the people.
BINGO!
Sure we would all love to see both parties sit down an negotiate a good plan to help people who are suffering right now. Trump has had to deal with a radical leftist Rat party that looks at every crisis as a means to impose more of their unpopular plans in place. I hope he doesn't lose in the courts, but if he does he still wins. He tried to do something to get people through this mess. What did the Rats do, NOTHING!
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BINGO!
Sure we would all love to see both parties sit down an negotiate a good plan to help people who are suffering right now. Trump has had to deal with a radical leftist Rat party that looks at every crisis as a means to impose more of their unpopular plans in place. I hope he doesn't lose in the courts, but if he does he still wins. He tried to do something to get people through this mess. What did the Rats do, NOTHING!
888high58888 Yup. POTUS IS DOING US A FAVOR BEING PRESIDENT. It is volunteer work. He take's ZERO PAY. He was already famous and wealthy BEFORE, becoming POTUS. All the vile lies and slander about him, daily are sickening. Just a human being who is a grandfather now. Loves his family as we do ours We are BLESSED TO HAVE HIM AS POTUS.
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This is actually a brilliant move from trump tbh.
Politically it’s awful for the dems, trying to stop free money going to the people to help them.
It will allow trump to say the don’t CARE. I’m sure trump probably knows he will be sued and these orders won’t go through. But the damage will be done to the dems, not him.
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Wrong. Do people know, that there is a cap on fica tax for the wealthy? Social Security can be saved for the future if THAT is changed, raised. It was about $120,000.00 for the wealthy, as their cut off. I don't know about today. $150,000.00?
After that all their thousands, millions are NOT FICA TAXED....like JOE BIDENS. LIKE ON ANY CONGRESS PEOPLE, WHO MAKE THOSE LAWS.
The tax is capped because the benefits are capped. Unless benefits are adjusted, then it would constitute a major tax increase on salaried professionals.
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Matt Couch
@RealMattCouch
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This idiot on Fox News saying that people really need the extra $600 per week on top of their normal unemployment draw instead of the $400 the President authorized, are MORONS..
I have COUNTLESS friends who own restaurants who can't get anyone to go back to work.. FACTS
My sister delayed going back to work because she was raking in a ton of extra cash on unemployment. Her employer delayed bringing people back until they absolutely had to in order to allow them to draw as much as they could before coming back. Difference is, that was a large hotel chain and not a mom and pop restaurant. i say cut the extra money or cap it so that nobody makes more than 90% of what they were earning to be reduced gradually.
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This is actually a brilliant move from trump tbh.
Politically it’s awful for the dems, trying to stop free money going to the people to help them.
It will allow trump to say the don’t CARE. I’m sure trump probably knows he will be sued and these orders won’t go through. But the damage will be done to the dems, not him.
This could go either way; especially since the DEMS wanted to offer more $$ and other fluff. If he does get sued, then its tied up in court and people will still be waiting. The MSM is already spinning this in the DEMS favor and the reason why the DEMS held out is because they wanted to give the people more $ which would not favor Trump -- it will look like he's trying to keep money that they could have.
This also has nothing to do with the proposed 2nd round of stimulus money. That's going to be yet another battle because the DEMS want to give more then the GOP/Trump is willing to give.
Gee ... who do you think the eventual recipients are going to favor?
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My sister delayed going back to work because she was raking in a ton of extra cash on unemployment. Her employer delayed bringing people back until they absolutely had to in order to allow them to draw as much as they could before coming back. Difference is, that was a large hotel chain and not a mom and pop restaurant. i say cut the extra money or cap it so that nobody makes more than 90% of what they were earning to be reduced gradually.
Well, my daughter's restaurant opened up and she could have opted to stay out longer and collected, but she decided to go back to work. She liked the extra $$ coming in but knew of others that still hadn't gotten paid anything and would rather have a job and some money coming in then chance it. She is glad that she did, because she is still owed $$ for over a month that she couldn't work. So far so good. Business isn't bustling, but she has a job and the restaurant has been able to stay open.
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Wrong. Do people know, that there is a cap on fica tax for the wealthy? Social Security can be saved for the future if THAT is changed, raised. It was about $120,000.00 for the wealthy, as their cut off. I don't know about today. $150,000.00?
After that all their thousands, millions are NOT FICA TAXED....like JOE BIDENS. LIKE ON ANY CONGRESS PEOPLE, WHO MAKE THOSE LAWS.
So social security is really just welfare then right? Take from the "wealthy" and give to the "poor" right?
Funny... It was claimed to be a program based on what YOU payed in. Not what someone else paid in. But you want someone else's money to pay you benefits... That's called welfare. There's another government program for that.
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Article and 42 posts in, I still do not see how much this adds to the federal deficit. WTF?
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Article and 42 posts in, I still do not see how much this adds to the federal deficit. WTF?
Any such figure would be worthless as it surely would not include tax receipts generated by people being put back to work.
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Any such figure would be worthless as it surely would not include tax receipts generated by people being put back to work.
A government giveaway that reduces the deficit. Wow, did you really say that?