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Title: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 24, 2017, 01:24:23 am
McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Washington Examiner, Oct 23, 2017, Paul Bedard

Big websites like Facebook, Drudge Report, Breitbart News, Google and the New York Times would face substantial punishment if they don't make "reasonable efforts" to block foreigners from posting political ads under new election legislation pushed by Sen. John McCain and two Democrats.

The "Honest Ads Act," co-sponsored by Democrats Virginia Sen. Mark Warner and Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, would put new legal requirements and punishments on websites with 50 million unique monthly readers that take a tiny $500 or more in political ads from one advertiser.


More: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mccain-joins-dems-to-regulate-drudge-google-facebook-political-ads/article/2638332
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: LMAO on October 24, 2017, 01:26:29 am
What could go wrong? 9999hair out0000
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Bigun on October 24, 2017, 01:29:16 am
Screw them! 
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: LMAO on October 24, 2017, 04:08:54 am
When there is any effort to squelch political speech, McCain is right there
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 24, 2017, 04:14:48 am
When McLame puts his name to something, you know it has got to be good.....

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Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on October 24, 2017, 04:23:25 am
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Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: KingsX on October 24, 2017, 04:24:39 am
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News is...  Putin funds many of those ads. But I never see any internet ads.

I hope McCain also votes with the Dems against tax cuts for the rich.




Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 24, 2017, 04:29:55 am

I hope McCain also votes with the Dems against tax cuts for the rich.

Gosh. I was just sitting here wondering what Karl Marx would say, were he alive, about this legislation McLame is peddling and then like Manna from Heaven my wishes are granted.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: KingsX on October 24, 2017, 04:35:17 am


Gosh. I was just sitting here wondering what Karl Marx would say, were he alive, about this legislation McLame is peddling and then like Manna from Heaven my wishes are granted.




You say you don't like Marx yet you defend KGB Putin's ads.



Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 24, 2017, 04:42:16 am

You say you don't like Marx yet you defend KGB Putin's ads.

If the KGB ads are so bad, why are they not targeting Japanese and German ads as well? I'm flooded with them on a regular basis.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: DB on October 24, 2017, 06:14:50 am
Lefties never trust the people themselves to decide what information is suitable for them or not. Therefore they as our smarter wiser overlords must protect us from our foolishness for our own good.

Which is 100% contrary to the founding principles of this country.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: stephen50right on October 24, 2017, 07:26:21 am
The word "honest" in the proposed act, seems to remind me of the same truthfulness as the word "affordable" in obamacare.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Bigun on October 24, 2017, 12:33:36 pm
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News is...  Putin funds many of those ads. But I never see any internet ads.

I hope McCain also votes with the Dems against tax cuts for the rich.

Of course you do!  You and he are on the same side after all!
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on October 24, 2017, 01:10:52 pm
The word "honest" in the proposed act, seems to remind me of the same truthfulness as the word "affordable" in obamacare.

 :thumbsup3: @stephen50right
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 24, 2017, 01:15:55 pm
So Google and Facebook deliberately censor certain points of view, and have near-monopoly status, but the Feds do nothing.

Yet the Feds are glad to do their own censorship of political advertising—even though it blatantly violates the spirit, and arguably the letter, of the First Amendment.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 24, 2017, 01:25:51 pm
So Google and Facebook deliberately censor certain points of view, and have near-monopoly status, but the Feds do nothing.

Yet the Feds are glad to do their own censorship of political advertising—even though it blatantly violates the spirit, and arguably the letter, of the First Amendment.


Just about sums it up,  doesn't it? 

Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: kevindavis007 on October 24, 2017, 01:43:12 pm
So it is OK for Trump to threaten the media, but not OK for McCain to do this (still wrong).
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 24, 2017, 01:52:06 pm
So it is OK for Trump to threaten the media, but not OK for McCain to do this (still wrong).


Trump is issuing empty threats because the media is constantly violating the terms of the licenses they were issued by the Federal Government.   McCain is proposing legislation that is an actual violation of First Amendment rights.   


Pay attention more closely.   



Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: kevindavis007 on October 24, 2017, 02:02:48 pm

Trump is issuing empty threats because the media is constantly violating the terms of the licenses they were issued by the Federal Government.   McCain is proposing legislation that is an actual violation of First Amendment rights.   


Pay attention more closely.


BS it is the same thing.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: skeeter on October 24, 2017, 02:18:03 pm
So Google and Facebook deliberately censor certain points of view, and have near-monopoly status, but the Feds do nothing.

Yet the Feds are glad to do their own censorship of political advertising—even though it blatantly violates the spirit, and arguably the letter, of the First Amendment.

I received a private message from Facebook the other day concerning an article I forwarded to a friend sometime earlier claiming that it contained false information, and providing link to something they considered 'correct'.

Apparently they are partnering with Politifact, Snopes, ABC and AP to provide 'truthful' responses to articles they've flagged as fake news.

So they are already watching you, guys.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Silver Pines on October 24, 2017, 02:22:39 pm
So it is OK for Trump to threaten the media, but not OK for McCain to do this (still wrong).

@kevindavis

That was two weeks ago---ancient history.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: skeeter on October 24, 2017, 02:31:44 pm

BS it is the same thing.

What was the name of the bill Trump was pushing?
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: stephen50right on October 24, 2017, 03:27:50 pm
What was the name of the bill Trump was pushing?

Exactly.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 24, 2017, 04:27:58 pm

You say you don't like Marx yet you defend KGB Putin's ads.

This the United States of America.  We have a First Amendment, which is something you may be a little unfamiliar with.  But stick with TBR for a while, we'll introduce you.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 24, 2017, 06:22:09 pm
I received a private message from Facebook the other day concerning an article I forwarded to a friend sometime earlier claiming that it contained false information, and providing link to something they considered 'correct'.

Apparently they are partnering with Politifact, Snopes, ABC and AP to provide 'truthful' responses to articles they've flagged as fake news.

So they are already watching you, guys.


I keep telling these people that we already have censorship.    They only worry about the possibility of the government doing it in the future,  not supposedly "private"  companies doing it right now.   

Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 24, 2017, 06:23:17 pm
@kevindavis

That was two weeks ago---ancient history.


Also the one thing is not even slightly like the other.   But you go with the "ancient history"  snark,  because i'm sure that makes you feel better when you vent like that. 

Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 24, 2017, 06:31:16 pm

Also the one thing is not even slightly like the other.   But you go with the "ancient history"  snark,  because i'm sure that makes you feel better when you vent like that.

Looks more like "sarcasm" than "snark," but I could be wrong.  This is a thread about McStain, and he does tend to relegate everything he doesn't like to the "History" bin, just like any random Clinton crime family member.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: roamer_1 on October 24, 2017, 06:34:08 pm

I keep telling these people that we already have censorship.    They only worry about the possibility of the government doing it in the future,  not supposedly "private"  companies doing it right now.

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You can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 24, 2017, 06:40:37 pm
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You can't have it both ways.


I'm not following you here.   I'm having a hard time grasping whatever point it is that you are trying to make. 


Are you suggesting that the government forcing people to bake a cake is a form of "censorship"?    I would think it would be closer to a form of slavery.   


Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: roamer_1 on October 24, 2017, 06:51:00 pm

I'm not following you here.   I'm having a hard time grasping whatever point it is that you are trying to make. 


Are you suggesting that the government forcing people to bake a cake is a form of "censorship"?    I would think it would be closer to a form of slavery.

The government by way of judicial fiat, is forcing a business to bake the cake. Thus controlling content.

wrt your claim to censorship, the government would be forcing the business to provide balance, thus controlling the content.

It's the same damn coin, just opposite sides. Either way, it positively asserts that the government has the right to control business at an incremental level.

Don't think this won't be used as precedence. 
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 24, 2017, 07:28:06 pm
The government by way of judicial fiat, is forcing a business to bake the cake. Thus controlling content.

wrt your claim to censorship, the government would be forcing the business to provide balance, thus controlling the content.


No wonder I couldn't see what you were getting at.   That's a stretch which requires a bunch of things to be declared equal to each other,  but which are not actually equal to each other. 


The baking of cakes is unlimited.  There is no corner on the cake market.  Anyone can compete and no one can prevent competition.   


The Airwaves are a limited resource that cannot be shared equally among all citizens.   This resource is licensed by the Federal Government with the stipulation that it not be used for politically biased broadcasting.    It is a violation of the terms of the licensing for them to do exactly what it is they are doing now.   


In the instance of baking a cake,  Government compulsion is a form of slavery,  because it is forcing someone to do something against their will.   

In the instance of forcing the people who hold the licenses to share the limited resource that is regulated by government intervention,   it was a requirement of the licensee to observe restrictions placed upon them regarding political bias.   

They agreed to it.    We should simply make them live up to their agreement. 




It's the same damn coin, just opposite sides. Either way, it positively asserts that the government has the right to control business at an incremental level.


It's not even the same denomination of currency,  let alone the same coin.    The Government is built in to the limited resource known as "the airwaves",    because it cannot be otherwise.   Without regulation,  we would go back to the power wars and sabotage that was common before the communication act of 1934. 

There is no need to regulate the baking of cakes because a virtual infinite source of baked cakes is already available to the public,  including the prospect of baking their own. 




Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: roamer_1 on October 24, 2017, 07:36:11 pm
The Airwaves are a limited resource that cannot be shared equally among all citizens.   This resource is licensed by the Federal Government with the stipulation that it not be used for politically biased broadcasting.    It is a violation of the terms of the licensing for them to do exactly what it is they are doing now.   

No, it is precisely the same thing - and unless you are advocating the licensing of internet resources, the 'airwaves' are a moot point.

Again, be careful what you wish for. What you establish as succor today will be used by liberals to seal your doom tomorrow.


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There is no need to regulate the baking of cakes because a virtual infinite source of baked cakes is already available to the public,  including the prospect of baking their own.

Hence the internet.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on October 24, 2017, 08:13:25 pm
Another Arizona Senator who needs to be put out to pasture.  While I do no wish him dead, I surely wish he could become a babbling idiot like his persona.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Emjay on October 25, 2017, 12:21:45 am
When McLame puts his name to something, you know it has got to be good.....

(http://s3-origin-images.politico.com/news/090630_mccain_feingold_ap_297.jpg)

Can someone 'splain why McCain is in the news every day now?
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: skeeter on October 25, 2017, 12:56:58 am
Can someone 'splain why McCain is in the news every day now?

Because he's used up 14.5 minutes allotted to him, and wants to make the most of the last half minute.
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 25, 2017, 01:26:16 am
Can someone 'splain why McCain is in the news every day now?

Because he has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel?  Just thinking out loud here. 
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on October 25, 2017, 02:32:25 am
Because he has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel?  Just thinking out loud here.

What don't get, given that he's been served notice that his expiration date is coming soon, is what possible good this is going to do him as to how people are going to remember him.

Does he want to be remembered as a slug?
Title: Re: McCain joins Dems to regulate Drudge, Google, Facebook political ads
Post by: Cyber Liberty on October 25, 2017, 02:51:02 am
What don't get, given that he's been served notice that his expiration date is coming soon, is what possible good this is going to do him as to how people are going to remember him.

Does he want to be remembered as a slug?

I don't think he gives a rat's patootie.  Really.  He's the White Dwarf of DeeCee politicians.  He's collapsed into his own white-hot hate for everybody until he disappears as a worthless Singularity.  A bitter little man, yelling at a cloud.

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