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Exclusive Content => Editorials => Topic started by: 17 Oaks on November 24, 2016, 01:36:50 am
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It seems Trumpy is backing down on a lot of promises he has made, in fact almost everything and his rubbing elbows with Romney, no way, he is NOT SecState material. One of the best qualified is John Bolton. I know John and went with him on a trip, the guy is rock solid and he gets my vote, I spent 2 weeks with him and feel very comfortable with him over Romney any day, there are others that would be contenders, but Romney would be bottom of my list...
Anyone else share my growing concern over what appears to be a backslide by Trump or is he just appearing a bit softer till he takes the office...
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It seems Trumpy is backing down on a lot of promises he has made, in fact almost everything and his rubbing elbows with Romney, no way, he is NOT SecState material. One of the best qualified is John Bolton. I know John and went with him on a trip, the guy is rock solid and he gets my vote, I spent 2 weeks with him and feel very comfortable with him over Romney any day, there are others that would be contenders, but Romney would be bottom of my list...
Anyone else share my growing concern over what appears to be a backslide by Trump or is he just appearing a bit softer till he takes the office...
Actually I am enjoying the back slide. I was only in to him to watch the Left implode. Now I am in to watching the Kool-aid drinkers loose their minds. I am genuinely entertained by the developing circus act.
I forgot to add that I went on a trip with Mitt a number of years ago. He made me travel on the roof rack of his Caprice wagon. It sucked.
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Actually I am enjoying the back slide. I was only in to him to watch the Left implode. Now I am in to watching the Kool-aid drinkers loose their minds. I am genuinely entertained by the developing circus act.
Yeah I can't really get upset about being right. I've known for months that constitutional conservatism lost.
I'm just along for the ride.
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It seems Trumpy is backing down on a lot of promises he has made, in fact almost everything and his rubbing elbows with Romney, no way, he is NOT SecState material. One of the best qualified is John Bolton. I know John and went with him on a trip, the guy is rock solid and he gets my vote, I spent 2 weeks with him and feel very comfortable with him over Romney any day, there are others that would be contenders, but Romney would be bottom of my list...
Anyone else share my growing concern over what appears to be a backslide by Trump or is he just appearing a bit softer till he takes the office...
"We told ya so #43,765,328"... only 63 million left now.
(http://s21.postimg.org/vwh1946wn/you_were_warned.jpg)
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Haha what was romneys dog called again?
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The press is saying Trump has backed down, do you trust them? Heck no.
If the topic of the conversation is whom will be Trump's secretary of state and not just to run down the President-elect, I have serious doubts that Bolton will be selected though he could be an advisor at that.
The selection will take some time because it is vitally important, in ways, this job has almost been as important as President in recent years, at least in obviously, foreign policy.
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Bolton would be my preference. We need someone strong in that job. We've had too many softies as Secretary of State and yes, I include Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice too. The last two -- Clinton and Kerry -- were thoroughly incompetent. This country is being walked on by its enemies. Of course, we want a diplomat, but we don't want someone who projects weakness. I think Bolton would restore our reputation of strength in the world.
Of course, since Bolton is eminently qualified, it's not likely he will get the job even if he was nominated. The Senate is full of mealy mouthed weenies from both parties.
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Haha what was romneys dog called again?
Ryan?
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It seems Trumpy is backing down on a lot of promises he has made, in fact almost everything and his rubbing elbows with Romney, no way, he is NOT SecState material. One of the best qualified is John Bolton. I know John and went with him on a trip, the guy is rock solid and he gets my vote, I spent 2 weeks with him and feel very comfortable with him over Romney any day, there are others that would be contenders, but Romney would be bottom of my list...
Anyone else share my growing concern over what appears to be a backslide by Trump or is he just appearing a bit softer till he takes the office...
Me thinks the press is just doing what they do and just trying to stampede folks but I could be wrong about that. Won't know for a while yet.
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Oaks,
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=235546.new#new
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2016/11/23/the-truth-about-john-bolton-the-iraq-war-and-wmd-diplomacy/
More on Bolton here.
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Oaks,
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=235546.new#new (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=235546.new#new)
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2016/11/23/the-truth-about-john-bolton-the-iraq-war-and-wmd-diplomacy/ (http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2016/11/23/the-truth-about-john-bolton-the-iraq-war-and-wmd-diplomacy/)
More on Bolton here.
Gen Powell who has always claimed he was a GOP man never has been. At least he admits that his rise to 4 stars was based upon Affirmative Action programs otherwise he would never have made it. He was a GREAT staff officer, he dotted i's and crossed t's with the very best and ever briefing you were always asked the same question(s): Did you staff this with ________ and __________? The chances that you had staffed it with ever one he thought needed to see it were slim to none. The result is anything you could accomplish in 3- days became 60 days, 6 mo became a year. If you walked into his office and needed a decision you had a problem as once again the 'did you staff with' question rose its ugly head.
You ask, WHY did he do this. Its called 'move the monkey'. When you office gets an action you have the monkey on your back, the key is to move it and Powell would staff out. So the monkey is now at Ft BumChuck and we are awaiting their response. That is how he operated.
This is John Bolton and Leland Vittert from Fox News, that is my wife behind them. We spent 2 weeks in Israel with him. He is a stand up guy!
(http://www.17oaks.com/_Media/img_1996_med.jpeg)
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Gen Powell who has always claimed he was a GOP man never has been. At least he admits that his rise to 4 stars was based upon Affirmative Action programs otherwise he would never have made it. He was a GREAT staff officer, he dotted i's and crossed t's with the very best and ever briefing you were always asked the same question(s): Did you staff this with ________ and __________? The chances that you had staffed it with ever one he thought needed to see it were slim to none. The result is anything you could accomplish in 3- days became 60 days, 6 mo became a year. If you walked into his office and needed a decision you had a problem as once again the 'did you staff with' question rose its ugly head.
You ask, WHY did he do this. Its called 'move the monkey'. When you office gets an action you have the monkey on your back, the key is to move it and Powell would staff out. So the monkey is now at Ft BumChuck and we are awaiting their response. That is how he operated.
This is John Bolton and Leland Vittert from Fox News, that is my wife behind them. We spent 2 weeks in Israel with him. He is a stand up guy!
(http://www.17oaks.com/_Media/img_1996_med.jpeg)
The worst thing is that most of the people who worked for Gen. Powell knew that history!
Great Pics! I'm hoping and praying that Trump will put Bolton in as Secretary of State but have little confidence that he will. IF he does that will put me firmly on the Trump train and especially so if he were to also make John Allison his Sec. of the Treasury as well!
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Moved, as no link to published material was provided.
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Actually I am enjoying the back slide. I was only in to him to watch the Left implode. Now I am in to watching the Kool-aid drinkers loose their minds. I am genuinely entertained by the developing circus act.
I forgot to add that I went on a trip with Mitt a number of years ago. He made me travel on the roof rack of his Caprice wagon. It sucked.
"He made me travel on the roof rack of his Caprice wagon"
You wrote that like there's something wrong with making a passenger do that. Sometimes there just isn't enough room for your important stuff and a passenger. :tongue2:
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Now I am in to watching the Kool-aid drinkers loose their minds. I am genuinely entertained by the developing circus act.
I'm always up for a few cheap laughs. Is it wrong to hope for spontaneous self-combustion on live TV?
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Actually I am enjoying the back slide. I was only in to him to watch the Left implode. Now I am in to watching the Kool-aid drinkers loose their minds. I am genuinely entertained by the developing circus act.
The last laugh is going to be against you. Dow up record high, great nominations so far. Doubt Romney will be picked for SOS, companies plan on building new factories in America.
Go Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Frank Cannon
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Actually I am enjoying the back slide. I was only in to him to watch the Left implode. Now I am in to watching the Kool-aid drinkers loose their minds. I am genuinely entertained by the developing circus act.
I hope you know that you're pretty fun to watch, too -- and have been for months. Watching your head explode over and over again has been the cherry on Trump's victory parfait.
Promise you won't ever change @Frank Cannon! :laugh:
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Dow up record high, great nominations so far.
Oh. The Dow is up. It doesn't matter that the fundamentals of the entire market are upside down. It doesn't matter that Tesla, Amazon and some others do not turn profits but keep increasing in value.
Carry on.
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Oh. The Dow is up. It doesn't matter that the fundamentals of the entire market are upside down. It doesn't matter that Tesla, Amazon and some others do not turn profits but keep increasing in value.
Carry on.
Fundamentals schmundamentals. We don't need no stinkin' fundamentals.
Our tax dollars kick in $20,000 for every Tesla sold yet they barely break even. Elon Musk makes his real money selling "carbon credits" to Ford and Chevy. When the real value of a company is in the ether and relies solely on a nod from bureaucrats, we ain't in Kansas anymore Toto.
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Anyone else share my growing concern over what appears to be a backslide by Trump or is he just appearing a bit softer till he takes the office...
I saw this coming months before the primary. Saw him as an opportunistic RINO from day one. I did not support him, I did not vote for him. And further, because of his antics and the behavior of his supporters at the convention, I am no longer registered as a Republican.
Having said that, I will say that many of his picks so far have been better than I thought they would be so I am adopting a wait and see attitude.
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When the real value of a company is in the ether and relies solely on a nod from bureaucrats, we ain't in Kansas anymore Toto.
With Trump, all companies will be in that boat
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The last laugh is going to be against you. Dow up record high, great nominations so far. Doubt Romney will be picked for SOS, companies plan on building new factories in America.
Go Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Frank Cannon
/SNICKER
Lies about walls, lies about immigration reform, lies about prosecuting Clinton. What didn't he lie about during the campaign?
Oh, and lies about jobs in America, or didn't you hear that Carrier is getting rid of jobs anyway.
Trump is nothing but lies, lies, lies.
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I forgot to add that I went on a trip with Mitt a number of years ago. He made me travel on the roof rack of his Caprice wagon. It sucked.
Oh yeah... Feed ya lots of chili and strap you to the roof like a JATO rocket... I hate it when that happens...
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Gen Powell who has always claimed he was a GOP man never has been. At least he admits that his rise to 4 stars was based upon Affirmative Action programs otherwise he would never have made it. He was a GREAT staff officer, he dotted i's and crossed t's with the very best and ever briefing you were always asked the same question(s): Did you staff this with ________ and __________? The chances that you had staffed it with ever one he thought needed to see it were slim to none. The result is anything you could accomplish in 3- days became 60 days, 6 mo became a year. If you walked into his office and needed a decision you had a problem as once again the 'did you staff with' question rose its ugly head.
You ask, WHY did he do this. Its called 'move the monkey'. When you office gets an action you have the monkey on your back, the key is to move it and Powell would staff out. So the monkey is now at Ft BumChuck and we are awaiting their response. That is how he operated.
This is John Bolton and Leland Vittert from Fox News, that is my wife behind them. We spent 2 weeks in Israel with him. He is a stand up guy!
(http://www.17oaks.com/_Media/img_1996_med.jpeg)
@17 Oaks - on some other thread would love to hear about your trip to the Holy Land.
It's number one on my mom's bucket list, and my sister and I would love to take her there in the next two years if possible before she's too old to go.....thanks.
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/SNICKER
Lies about walls, lies about immigration reform, lies about prosecuting Clinton. What didn't he lie about during the campaign?
Oh, and lies about jobs in America, or didn't you hear that Carrier is getting rid of jobs anyway.
Trump is nothing but lies, lies, lies.
I see Trump is beginning to catch flak from some of his most ardent supporters. Joe Walsh is knocking Trump for siding with Russia over our own intell community.
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/SNICKER
Lies about walls, lies about immigration reform, lies about prosecuting Clinton. What didn't he lie about during the campaign?
Oh, and lies about jobs in America, or didn't you hear that Carrier is getting rid of jobs anyway.
Trump is nothing but lies, lies, lies.
LOL not even in office yet and you are trashing him
@Oceander
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Oh. The Dow is up. It doesn't matter that the fundamentals of the entire market are upside down. It doesn't matter that Tesla, Amazon and some others do not turn profits but keep increasing in value.
Carry on.
Corporations are sitting on record cash, banks are doing well and very strong, productivity is at record high.
IT's not as bad out there as you think
@Frank Cannon
@geronl
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I am disappointing but not surprised.
I wouldn't say I was in the #NeverTrump camp 100%, but I have definitely been a Trump skeptic.
I hope when it is all said and done, he proves me wrong.
He is not off to the best of starts.
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I am disappointing but not surprised.
I wouldn't say I was in the #NeverTrump camp 100%, but I have definitely been a Trump skeptic.
I hope when it is all said and done, he proves me wrong.
He is not off to the best of starts.
I'm sure you're never disappointing, @GrouchoTex.
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I am disappointing but not surprised.
I wouldn't say I was in the #NeverTrump camp 100%, but I have definitely been a Trump skeptic.
I hope when it is all said and done, he proves me wrong.
He is not off to the best of starts.
IMHO he is off to a MUCH better start than I would have EVER thought two months ago! That being said, he isn't in office yet and the proof will be in the pudding!
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I'm sure you're never disappointing, @GrouchoTex.
Whoops!
Thank you for the nice comment, though!
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About the DOW. Money is moving out of bonds in the face of an interest rate rise. Those dollars re moving into stocks.
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I am disappointing but not surprised.
I wouldn't say I was in the #NeverTrump camp 100%, but I have definitely been a Trump skeptic.
I hope when it is all said and done, he proves me wrong.
He is not off to the best of starts.
His picks have been unexpectedly good.
His personal behavior has been abysmal and as expected. Donald will be donald.
Needs to get rid of bannon and all conspiracy theorists.
Maybe, just maybe, we may survive 4 years of him.
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His picks have been unexpectedly good.
His personal behavior has been abysmal and as expected. Donald will be donald.
Needs to get rid of bannon and all conspiracy theorists.
Maybe, just maybe, we may survive 4 years of him.
If we survived 8 years of 0bama, we'll survive a Trump admin much more easily. I'd bet things will get better if the leftoids don't try something stupid like inciting riots in their enclaves.
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Corporations are sitting on record cash, banks are doing well and very strong, productivity is at record high.
IT's not as bad out there as you think
So you should be giving Obama and the Democrats the credit for the spectacular economy after 8 years, correct?
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If we survived 8 years of 0bama, we'll survive a Trump admin much more easily. I'd bet things will get better if the leftoids don't try something stupid like inciting riots in their enclaves.
It'll be much the same s the last 8 years
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If we survived 8 years of 0bama, we'll survive a Trump admin much more easily. I'd bet things will get better if the leftoids don't try something stupid like inciting riots in their enclaves.
Trump has been non-stop idiocy and drama since being elected.
I think people are gonna be sick of him much quicker than Obama.
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Anyone else share my growing concern over what appears to be a backslide by Trump or is he just appearing a bit softer till he takes the office...
@17 Oaks
Anyone that ISN'T worried about the action of ANY newly-elected president isn't thinking very clearly. Trump is certainly no exception to this rule.
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Me thinks the press is just doing what they do and just trying to stampede folks but I could be wrong about that. Won't know for a while yet.
@Bigun
I agree. I also strongly suspect Trump likes to throw a lot of curve balls to keep people confused. He might already have a firm pick in mind,but he seems to like to throw these curve balls to keep his opponents guessing. They see him talking about either a fire-breathing conservative or in some cases a lefty,and it throws them off their game. Then he goes ahead and nominates who he was planning on nominating from the beginning,and people on both sides are relieved their worse fears didn't come true.
Frankly,I am a little relieved myself to see this happen. There are some positions where I think we need a rabid right-wing conservative heading up some department,and there are other departments where we need someone more moderate in charge. Don't forget,the president and the rest of government have their positions because they are there to serve the PEOPLE,not just thee and me. We need a balance in government at all times to insure we don't end up with a dictator. I like to think the balance should tip sharply to the right,but that's just my opinion.
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Gen Powell who has always claimed he was a GOP man never has been. At least he admits that his rise to 4 stars was based upon Affirmative Action programs otherwise he would never have made it. He was a GREAT staff officer, he dotted i's and crossed t's with the very best and ever briefing you were always asked the same question(s): Did you staff this with ________ and __________? The chances that you had staffed it with ever one he thought needed to see it were slim to none. The result is anything you could accomplish in 3- days became 60 days, 6 mo became a year. If you walked into his office and needed a decision you had a problem as once again the 'did you staff with' question rose its ugly head.
You ask, WHY did he do this. Its called 'move the monkey'. When you office gets an action you have the monkey on your back, the key is to move it and Powell would staff out. So the monkey is now at Ft BumChuck and we are awaiting their response. That is how he operated.
This is John Bolton and Leland Vittert from Fox News, that is my wife behind them. We spent 2 weeks in Israel with him. He is a stand up guy!
(http://www.17oaks.com/_Media/img_1996_med.jpeg)
@17 Oaks
Let's not forget that Powell was GREAT at carrying Kissinger's luggage and being his tame Knee-Grow so Henry could "prove" he isn't prejudiced. Hell,he even spoke good English!
Powell is the ONLY infantry branch officer I ever heard of that spent even a partial tour,never mind a whole tour as an advisor to a SVN Army Ranger unit,and managed to never ONCE get in a fire fight to earn a CIB,and who left VN with ZERO SVN commendations in his record. Not even a "thanks for not burning our country down" ribbon. Zero. Nada. Nothing.
If he had been a white officer can came back with nothing,his next career move would have been to get a taxi driver license in NYC because he WOULD have been put out of the army.
And to add insult to injury,I have been told or read that he got a Purple Heart and a CIB while serving as a Major and Staff Officer on his second tour,and ALL he did was give briefings in air-conditioned rooms and act as a flunky for the General he served under. IF what I heard and read is true,both awards should be,but won't be,taken away from him because he didn't earn them. The ONLY excitement that occurred on that tour was when he was riding as a passenger on a milk-run helicopter that developed mechanical problems and had a rough landing. Powell was slightly injured,and did get,and earn,a ribbon for pulling a seriously injured soldier out of the wreckage and giving him first aid,but there was NO combat involved,and no combat means no CIB and no Purple Heart.
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I forgot to add that I went on a trip with Mitt a number of years ago. He made me travel on the roof rack of his Caprice wagon. It sucked.
Did Mitt have an LT1 in that badboy wagon?
@Frank Cannon
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Did Mitt have an LT1 in that badboy wagon?
@Frank Cannon
He did not. It was an 80's square body with the anemic 305. If you ever had the displeasure of driving one of those slugs, you know what I mean.
(http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2007/06/25/1182785700_8273.jpg)
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He did not. It was an 80's square body with the anemic 305. If you ever had the displeasure of driving one of those slugs, you know what I mean.
(http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_Party_Photo/2007/06/25/1182785700_8273.jpg)
Well, it sounds perfect for a Kerry mobile then. Spacious. Low on power.
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I like Trump's Cabinet picks so far, and the potential for working with Congress to spur growth.
The one thing I don't know is whether he's too willing to pick fights. He picked a religious extremist as Ambassador to Israel. He's waving a red flag in front of China. Meanwhile everyone's going to be baiting him, and identity politics is absolutely embedded at Federal agencies. Kumbaya and counseling sessions for employees at the State Department, by criminy. Trump needs to speak, and speak fast, with old Reagan hands about coming to DC with the bureaucracy just filthy with the other party's people. Carter's folks frustrated efforts at every turn.
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I like Trump's Cabinet picks so far, and the potential for working with Congress to spur growth.
The one thing I don't know is whether he's too willing to pick fights. He picked a religious extremist as Ambassador to Israel. He's waving a red flag in front of China. Meanwhile everyone's going to be baiting him, and identity politics is absolutely embedded at Federal agencies. Kumbaya and counseling sessions for employees at the State Department, by criminy. Trump needs to speak, and speak fast, with old Reagan hands about coming to DC with the bureaucracy just filthy with the other party's people. Carter's folks frustrated efforts at every turn.
@Jazzhead
My thinking on this is that Trump is not and never has been a politician. Politicians always "politic". They try to reach agreements without upsetting anyone or appearing to be unreasonable.
Trump,on the other hand is a businessman,and doesn't give a damn who he upsets while "negotiating" a deal. PLEASE note that I wrote "negotiating a deal",not playing politics. His normal strategy is to throw out the most outrageous demands he can come up with,far beyond what he really expects,and then to stonewall as much as he can until the person he is facing agrees to give him close to what he really wants because THEY need it too. He's not really trying to persuade anyone. He's working on dominating them and gaining the upper hand. "Winning" is as important to him as oxygen.
I may well be wrong on this,but time will tell,and it won't be a long time,either. Right now he is playing kissy-face with a lot of people he had rather push off a cliff,but right now he still isn't the sitting president,so he has no real power to do anything,so why not let everyone think they are going to have their way with him?
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Trump says China should keep the drone.... what :shrug:
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Trump says China should keep the drone.... what :shrug:
What does it matter. They have it blueprinted and being reproduced by now.
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What does it matter. They have it blueprinted and being reproduced by now.
And, it wasn't classified information they were collecting anyway.
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Trump is not getting scared, he is getting ready to put this nation back on the tracks to greatness as a world power.
It is the Left who are now installing their "depends" so they don't get that warm wet feeling running down their legs and finding their safe places to hide as they are finally forced to face their total defeat.
The well deserved laughter from the right will begin at 3PM Eastern Time today; about three hours from now when it is clear that all of the stupid juvenile tactics of the left fail to prevent our constitution in action.
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IMHO he is off to a MUCH better start than I would have EVER thought two months ago! That being said, he isn't in office yet and the proof will be in the pudding!
Same here. He's a scumbag, but so far he's not picked a complete bunch of pantywaist liberals, not near as bad a group as I expected.
I've got him on probation for a year in office before I issue any official I told you so's.
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IMHO he is off to a MUCH better start than I would have EVER thought two months ago! That being said, he isn't in office yet and the proof will be in the pudding!
I agree with the cabinet picks, except for a few, who are "swamp" critters.
Not too happy about meeting with Al Gore and his daughter calling congress to push for this Maternity leave thing.
Sending mixed signals on this "dreamer" thing Obama put out.
Like you said, he's not in office yet.
Time will tell.
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I've got him on probation for a year in office before I issue any official I told you so's.
@Idaho_Cowboy
OK,so truthfully,that doesn't make him any different that any other new president,right? None of us know for sure what any of them are going to do or try to do until they try to do it.