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https://stream.org/so-what-is-q-and-why-is-msm-suddenly-targeting-it/
Seemingly within minutes Wednesday, The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, The Hill and several other of the usual suspects all ran stories attempting to explain — and by explain I mean “mock/dismiss/deride†— an internet phenomenon known as Q or QAnon.
Here’s a good tip: Any time the news establishment in sudden unison jumps up and screams at the top of their lungs, “Nothing to see here! Nonsense, nonsense! Nothing to see!†it’s a good time to pay attention.
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@Quix
I am paying attention. Thanks for all you do here.
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@Quix
I am paying attention. Thanks for all you do here.
Thanks greatly for your contributions and your patience with me.
Rushing along here . . . need to go get some clay.
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https://stream.org/so-what-is-q-and-why-is-msm-suddenly-targeting-it/
Seemingly within minutes Wednesday, The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, The Hill and several other of the usual suspects all ran stories attempting to explain — and by explain I mean “mock/dismiss/deride†— an internet phenomenon known as Q or QAnon.
Here’s a good tip: Any time the news establishment in sudden unison jumps up and screams at the top of their lungs, “Nothing to see here! Nonsense, nonsense! Nothing to see!†it’s a good time to pay attention.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
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Here’s a good tip: Any time the news establishment in sudden unison jumps up and screams at the top of their lungs, “Nothing to see here! Nonsense, nonsense! Nothing to see!†it’s a good time to pay attention.
:amen: sista! :amen:
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From the article:
"Often several times a day, Q will leave a post on 8-chan. (A hard-to-navigate website composed of user-created boards.) These Q posts tend to be in the form of questions and cryptic statements. Readers — aka “Anons†— call these “crumbs.†A community has arisen out of the effort to research and explain the posts.
A website called QAnon.pub is an easy way to see and search through the Q posts.
(A Q assertion): There is a global conspiracy at work hellbent on bringing Trump down. This one gets mocked by the media. The same media that gleefully reports how the EU — and other new world order types — loath Trump and want to bring him down. Meanwhile, former Sec. of State John Kerry is running around Europe and Iran assuring everyone they won’t have to worry about Trump much longer. Obama has been saying pretty much the same thing as he travels the globe, often hitting spots just after a Trump visit.
For that matter, just think of the Steele dossier. That alone involved Russians feeding Clinton operatives, British intelligence, an Australian diplomat, the State Department official at the Middle East desk, John McCain, Fusion GPS with its deep MSM ties to say nothing of the top officials at the FBI, DOJ and CIA."
Informative article.
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@austingirl
@AustinG
@Quix
https://stream.org/so-what-is-q-and-why-is-msm-suddenly-targeting-it/
Seemingly within minutes Wednesday, The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, The Hill and several other of the usual suspects all ran stories attempting to explain — and by explain I mean “mock/dismiss/deride†— an internet phenomenon known as Q or QAnon.
Here’s a good tip: Any time the news establishment in sudden unison jumps up and screams at the top of their lungs, “Nothing to see here! Nonsense, nonsense! Nothing to see!†it’s a good time to pay attention.
I have never bothered to make the argument that a massive and evidently coordinated MSM attack on the "Q Movement" is rigorous proof that Q is the real deal. The problem is that unteachably thoughtless folks (including some on our beloved TBR) will tend to behave like greased pigs. They will squirm away from the implications of the MSM onslaught. They will correctly point out that the mere fact of the impressive MSM attack does not rigorously prove that Q is the real deal. Sadly, while they are patting themselves on the back for having come up with such a polemical zinger, they will unwittingly lock their minds in hopeless darkness. They will say, in Al Gore's arrogant style, "The matter is settled!"
Of course, it is not settled. The vehement Q-deniers are just being successfully seduced by MSM propagandists and miscellaneous other nattering nabobs. (Hey, it happens, sometimes even to folks on TBR.) Anyone with a lick of sense nowadays will find the MSM onslaught significant, indeed. TBR members who are currently Q-doubters would do well to dig deeper--quite a bit deeper. I believe that any scrupulously honest TBR member who invests time and effort in understanding the Q phenomenon will become a Q-believer.
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@Sanguine
@Quix
@austingirl
@austingirl
@AustinG
@Quix
I have never bothered to make the argument that a massive and evidently coordinated MSM attack on the "Q Movement" is rigorous proof that Q is the real deal. The problem is that unteachably thoughtless folks (including some on our beloved TBR) will tend to behave like greased pigs. They will squirm away from the implications of the MSM onslaught. They will correctly point out that the mere fact of the impressive MSM attack does not rigorously prove that Q is the real deal. Sadly, while they are patting themselves on the back for having come up with such a polemical zinger, they will unwittingly lock their minds in hopeless darkness. They will say, in Al Gore's arrogant style, "The matter is settled!"
Of course, it is not settled. The vehement Q-deniers are just being successfully seduced by MSM propagandists and miscellaneous other nattering nabobs. (Hey, it happens, sometimes even to folks on TBR.) Anyone with a lick of sense nowadays will find the MSM onslaught significant, indeed. TBR members who are currently Q-doubters would do well to dig deeper--quite a bit deeper. I believe that any scrupulously honest TBR member who invests time and effort in understanding the Q phenomenon will become a Q-believer.
A couple of articles on @Quix's Alt Realites thread are very pertinent at this point, I believe: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.1525.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.1525.html)
The first article of special interest is Quix's Post #1531. The next one is mine, further down the thread at #1583.
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@Sanguine
@Quix
@austingirl
A couple of articles on @Quix's Alt Realites thread are very pertinent at this point, I believe: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.1525.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.1525.html)
The first article of special interest is Quix's Post #1531. The next one is mine, further down the thread at #1583.
THANKS BIG.
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@austingirl
I think you must mean reply #1526 or more likely 1527 here:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.50.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.50.html)
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Your link above takes you to page one of this long thread.
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@austingirl
@AustinG
@Quix
I have never bothered to make the argument that a massive and evidently coordinated MSM attack on the "Q Movement" is rigorous proof that Q is the real deal. The problem is that unteachably thoughtless folks (including some on our beloved TBR) will tend to behave like greased pigs. They will squirm away from the implications of the MSM onslaught. They will correctly point out that the mere fact of the impressive MSM attack does not rigorously prove that Q is the real deal. Sadly, while they are patting themselves on the back for having come up with such a polemical zinger, they will unwittingly lock their minds in hopeless darkness. They will say, in Al Gore's arrogant style, "The matter is settled!"
Of course, it is not settled. The vehement Q-deniers are just being successfully seduced by MSM propagandists and miscellaneous other nattering nabobs. (Hey, it happens, sometimes even to folks on TBR.) Anyone with a lick of sense nowadays will find the MSM onslaught significant, indeed. TBR members who are currently Q-doubters would do well to dig deeper--quite a bit deeper. I believe that any scrupulously honest TBR member who invests time and effort in understanding the Q phenomenon will become a Q-believer.
@the_doc
Those venomous posters are too damned lazy to do any of their own research into Q. Close-minded and smug and happy to remain so. To quote Alvin Tofler: "“The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn."
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THANKS BIG.
@the_doc ::
@austingirl
I think you must mean reply #1526 or more likely 1527 here:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.50.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,297134.50.html)
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Your link above takes you to page one of this long thread.
When I click the link, it takes me to Page 62. I can then scroll straight down to Post #1531. (Post #1583 you can find on your own.)
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The Q group doesn't matter. If people have committed crimes and law enforcement has evidence, the people will be arrested and tried in a court. I think it is disgusting and immoral to put accomplished, rich people's names in their posts and accuse them of child sex crimes and killing them and eating them; saying the Pope is killing kids under the Vatican and other Catholic churches are also doing that. I have not seen one poor person's name listed as having sex with and killing kids. If you are rich, you must be involved in this sordid hobby of having sex with and killing kids. If you are poor, you can do anything you want as only rich people are accused.
Now, they say all these people have been indicted in sealed indictments. Since they are "sealed" how does Q and his buddies know what is in those indictments across the entire US? Why don't they shut up accusing rulers of countries, including the British Royal Family, and other rich people, and wait until law enforcement arrests these people and trials are held?
Q means nothing. All Qs "cabal" (that is a group of people) means nothing.
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The Q group doesn't matter.
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Q means nothing. All Qs "cabal" (that is a group of people) means nothing.
TO
YOU!
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@Quix
I am paying attention. Thanks for all you do here.
I just posted JUSTINFORMEDTALK's 10 BEST Q PROOFS on the long thread.
I forget if it was you or someone else asking for a condensed set of proofs.
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Provided to me a few weeks ago, from the State of Jefferson.
https://national-assembly.net/
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Provided to me a few weeks ago, from the State of Jefferson.
https://national-assembly.net/
Love it. Maybe it will reign after Armageddon.
Wish I could see it happen before then.
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@the_doc
Pondering . . . My education, as I've often mentioned, re the globalists and their goals and strategies began in 1965 when I managed their materials--including many PRIMARY SOURCE materials--from the far left right across to the far right--as acting Director of the Univ Library's Special Collections Dept.
I instantly recognized that they fit hand and glove into the Biblical prophecies of the one world government of the END TIMES.
However, I still weighted various sources up or down depending on a lot of factors--the net issue being how convincing were they and how reasonable were the assertions in terms of likely truth, disinformation etc.
Of course, in the 53 years since then, the oligarchy has advanced dramatically in overt ways in terms of their degree of !!!CONTROL!!! over global economics, countries, militaries, health institutions, media institutions, educational institutions, transportation, energy, food, medicines, etc.
People who fail to see that are, imho, either terminally uninformed, propaganda lobotomized, willfully blind, low in IQ, terminally ignorant and/or otherwise delusional or living in some fantasized pseudo "reality."
The globalist oligarchy--also known as The Cabal--is ruthless to the max, satanic to the max, deeply and broadly entrenched.
Trump will beat them back for his 8 years only by the aid and assistance of Almighty God Yehovah and His angelic forces and the prayers of God's people. How long the beat-back will endure before a rush to return the planet to the slippery slide to hell and Armageddon post Trump remains to be seen.
Folks who dare to push or pull for opposition to Trump's efforts against evil are seriously choosing to cheer and/or work on the wrong side. Almighty God is not likely to be amused.
I haven't been able to think of a similar move of God in recorded history. There were various moves of God to punish Israel for her waywardness or to rescue her from Egypt or Babylon when the punishment time was over. But I don't recall any serious evidence of a rather thoroughly global effort of God's righteous values and goals against satan's global evils and evil human stooges.
imho, He has chosen to do so at this time for a number of reasons:
1. Finish out the Great Commission to the remaining tribal groups. See The Proclaimer mission organization out of Albuquerque that puts the Bible on MP3 hand crank/solar players into tribal groups with a commitment from "The Man of Peace" in the tribe to play the Bible for 30 min a week and discuss it for 30 min a week.
FAITH COMES BY HEARING:
https://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com/about/our-story (https://www.faithcomesbyhearing.com/about/our-story)
2. To provide a period of time for an intensified demonstration of God's power and values before the darkness falls toward Armageddon. Evidently it will include what will likely be the last huge inflow of masses of people into The Kingdom of God as servants of Christ.
3. To provide some continued National assistance to Israel--blessing Israel and being blessed by God for doing so.
4. To demonstrate to the evil doers that God is well able and willing to trash them wholesale and emphatically as He will definitely do most terminally at the end of Armageddon. I think this is to be a major object lesson foretaste, hint to the powers of evil and their human stooges.
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As I've pondered all this . . . I've reflected on my growing awareness and deepening conclusions and constructions on spiritual and political realities accordingly.
I began studying UFO's in 1962 when I was in Jr High. That interest sprung out of my interest in science fiction--C.S. Lewis and other famous sci fi authors--most of whom were anti-Christian.
At first, I didn't know how real the UFO stuff was. By the time I'd graduated from university, a close relative who had worked at S-4 near area 51 had assured me they were definitely real and involved critters not of earth in any conventional sense.
Still, I had a hard time knowing which side such UFO critters were on--God's side or the side of the dark pseudo-lord. The scale had started to tip from the evidence toward the critters being in the service of the dark pseudo-lord. They typically did horrible fearsome things to human victims--not very Godly behavior.
Nevertheless, I continued to hold that issue loosely and wait to see what future data would indicate on that score.
Within a decade or 3, I'd concluded that the critters were virtually all, if not all, in the service of the dark pseudo-lord satan--acting out THE GREAT DECEPTION Christ had warned us would spring up in the END TIMES. Nothing has significantly altered that conclusion the last 1.5-2 decades. If anything, that conclusion has been intensified, deepened.
Through all this long period of decades of study, I certainly had my biases. Yet, I tenaciously sought information, references, data, puzzle pieces for whatever they would disclose that might bear on my topics of interest. I was interested in the truth, reality. I knew TRUTH was a passion of God's and that He and His Truth could well handle whatever bits of puzzle piece truth chunks might be discovered. I haven't changed my opinion about that. That's how I've found it. The Bible continues to win all the truth contests.
Nevertheless, I've persistently come across a shocking multitude of Christians who have come down on this or that side of such issues with great emotional intensity and fierce conviction. Too often, it has appeared to me that they have reached their 'conclusions'--not from the evidence fair-mindedly considered but from their fierce emotional biases.
I haven't tended to understand that except as a psychologist realizing the degree that RAD (Attachment Disorder) sets folks up to tend to seize on bits of information in a way that confirm their biases against maybe tankers full of evidence against their perspectives.
I've never known how to deal with such in any way that has a good chance of successfully red-pilling such folks. It is almost as though their entire existence, mentality, construction on reality, constructs of right, wrong and eternal hope--their whole set of schemas are at risk if they dare to allow any fair-minded consideration of an alternate view.
This has nothing to do with the Bible. Such folks are to be found on opposite sides of a number of controversial Bible issues.
It's just very sad to me to see such a gross lack of discernment, lack of spiritual maturity, lack of objectivity etc. on the part of so many older (if not mature) Christians. The men displaying such seem to be fiercely concerned about anyone thinking their manhood is not longer. I don't know how to describe it with women. Some might be defending the size of their bras and some not. Those not are probably more likely to be defending their intellectual horse power and brilliance etc.
I don't know how many such folks seemingly so blind to so much evolving fact and solid truths at this moment in the END TIMES will be readily convinced when new information is most emphatically demonstrated on all the media available. Will they still try and rationalize truth away or will they adjust their schemas? Probably some will do one (the minority of them) and more will dig their heels in deeper and massively rationalize up one side and down the other regardless of how silly their rationalizations sound.
Typically, Jehovah's Witnesses--when their predicted times for Christ's return came and went uneventfully--rationalized it all and too soon set another date for such.
Humans can be very stubborn in the face of some rather intensely brazen and obviously evident facts.
Ah well, it is certainly an interesting era to be alive in.
I expect the next 1-6 weeks to be increasingly dramatic. And maybe the weeks just before the mid-terms most dramatic. We shall see.
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I don't know how many such folks seemingly so blind to so much evolving fact and solid truths at this moment in the END TIMES will be readily convinced when new information is most emphatically demonstrated on all the media available. Will they still try and rationalize truth away or will they adjust their schemas? Probably some will do one (the minority of them) and more will dig their heels in deeper and massively rationalize up one side and down the other regardless of how silly their rationalizations sound.
As the days of Noah were ...
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Quix = Q Hmmmmmm :laugh:
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Quix = Q Hmmmmmm :laugh:
LOLOLOL.
Thanks for the kind joke.
I'm not up to that much brilliance day after day. It would take a very sharp team. Less than 10, more than 5 seems about right.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80s5xuvzCtg&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80s5xuvzCtg&feature=youtu.be)
Good video exposing the subversive media.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80s5xuvzCtg&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80s5xuvzCtg&feature=youtu.be)
Good video exposing the subversive media.
Thanks. Appreciated.
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@Quix
Good testimonial in your #16. It's very close to my own odyssey. (Of course, we're both just numbskulls--perhaps even schizophrenics, I guess. 888high58888)
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@Quix
Good testimonial in your #16. It's very close to my own odyssey. (Of course, we're both just numbskulls--perhaps even schizophrenics, I guess. 888high58888)
Thanks.
No, not numbskulls--just hard headed.
Not schizophrenics--just able to see all sides of issues sufficiently to make some above average assessments about foundational realities vs appearances.
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@Quix
You said:
"It is almost as though their entire existence, mentality, construction on reality, constructs of right, wrong and eternal hope--their whole set of schemas are at risk if they dare to allow any fair-minded consideration of an alternate view."
Well said. 888high58888
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@Quix
You said:
"It is almost as though their entire existence, mentality, construction on reality, constructs of right, wrong and eternal hope--their whole set of schemas are at risk if they dare to allow any fair-minded consideration of an alternate view."
Well said. 888high58888
Thanks for your kind affirmation and encouragement. Happy Hump day--Wednesday.
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I admit that I am skeptical about this whole Q-anon thing.
However, I wouldn't have believe the following, either, before they actually happened recently:
(1) Fast and Furious
(2) McCain's staffer telling the IRS to Target TEA party groups financially, to ruin them, (those he called "hobbits").
(3) Pallets of cash going to Iran, after a shady treaty deal that was never ratified.
(4) Bernie being railroaded by the Dems, so he couldn't effectively run against their chosen one, Hillary.
(5) Strzok and Page and co., setting up "Insurance" to take down Trump, and ignoring Hillary's e-mails.
I still retain what I consider a healthy skepticism, but not near as much as I would have been prior to the aforementioned happening.
The rash of news outlets coming out with these stories now makes me think something big may be breaking soon.
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I admit that I am skeptical about this whole Q-anon thing.
However, I wouldn't have believe the following, either, before they actually happened recently:
(1) Fast and Furious
(2) McCain's staffer telling the IRS to Target TEA party groups financially, to ruin them, (those he called "hobbits").
(3) Pallets of cash going to Iran, after a shady treaty deal that was never ratified.
(4) Bernie being railroaded by the Dems, so he couldn't effectively run against their chosen one, Hillary.
(5) Strzok and Page and co., setting up "Insurance" to take down Trump, and ignoring Hillary's e-mails.
I still retain what I consider a healthy skepticism, but not near as much as I would have been prior to the aforementioned happening.
The rash of news outlets coming out with these stories now makes me think something big may be breaking soon.
Very sobering times, indeed. Congrats on some flexibility in your thinking while retaining healthy skepticism.
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The media ignored Qanon until it was a sufficiently fevered swamp, and then the memo went out---hey, look at this stuff conservatives believe!
Convenient and just in time for November. It isn't complicated.
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The media ignored Qanon until it was a sufficiently fevered swamp, and then the memo went out---hey, look at this stuff conservatives believe!
Convenient and just in time for November. It isn't complicated.
Soooooooooo, what are your conjectures, assumptions, beliefs about all that?
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Soooooooooo, what are your conjectures, assumptions, beliefs about all that?
@Quix
In what way? Sorry, don't get you.
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@Quix
In what way? Sorry, don't get you.
This sentence:
Convenient and just in time for November. It isn't complicated.
Seems like it is the intro to several paragraphs--or ought to be. Your assumptions and perceptions are likely not 100% the same as those of others. Please share yours.
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@CatherineofAragon
This sentence:
Convenient and just in time for November. It isn't complicated.
Seems like it is the intro to several paragraphs--or ought to be. Your assumptions and perceptions are likely not 100% the same as those of others. Please share yours.
@Quix, Catherine seems to be saying that the MSM onslaught occurred as a coordinated effort that was/is convenient and just in time for the Dems to make hay with the Republicans in the upcoming November elections.
Well, if that sort of opportunism is what is motivating their coordinated attack, I would opine that their timing is premature. They should have waited until September or even October to inflict maximum damage (i.e., maximum Democrat turnout) by their scoffing/accusations of right-wing conspiracy.
I believe the timing of the MSM's attempt to discredit Q was forced on them. All of the MSM outlets started attacking Q as soon as the Q Team came up on the public's radar.
There is no chance that it will do any good if Trump survives, but they have to try--ultimately in the hope that Trump drops dead before he can pull the trigger confirming the charges that Q has been posting on Trump's authority.
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@CatherineofAragon
@Quix, Catherine seems to be saying that the MSM onslaught occurred as a coordinated effort that was/is convenient and just in time for the Dems to make hay with the Republicans in the upcoming November elections.
Well, if that sort of opportunism is what is motivating their coordinated attack, I would opine that their timing is premature. They should have waited until September or even October to inflict maximum damage (i.e., maximum Democrat turnout) by their scoffing/accusations of right-wing conspiracy.
I believe the timing of the MSM's attempt to discredit Q was forced on them. All of the MSM outlets started attacking Q as soon as the Q Team came up on the public's radar.
There is no chance that it will do any good if Trump survives, but they have to try--ultimately in the hope that Trump drops dead before he can pull the trigger confirming the charges that Q has been posting on Trump's authority.
Trust the plan. the battle is going on right under our nose .
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@CatherineofAragon
@Quix, Catherine seems to be saying that the MSM onslaught occurred as a coordinated effort that was/is convenient and just in time for the Dems to make hay with the Republicans in the upcoming November elections.
Well, if that sort of opportunism is what is motivating their coordinated attack, I would opine that their timing is premature. They should have waited until September or even October to inflict maximum damage (i.e., maximum Democrat turnout) by their scoffing/accusations of right-wing conspiracy.
I believe the timing of the MSM's attempt to discredit Q was forced on them. All of the MSM outlets started attacking Q as soon as the Q Team came up on the public's radar.
There is no chance that it will do any good if Trump survives, but they have to try--ultimately in the hope that Trump drops dead before he can pull the trigger confirming the charges that Q has been posting on Trump's authority.
I think you are right. They have no choice. They have to throw whatever dust in the air that they can . . . and any and everything else--to try all they can to sabotage Trump's meticulous, methodical efforts to trash the evil doers and their evil deeds, goals and organizations.
Their lives likely depend on it--certainly their relative freedoms.
Thanks.
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Trust the plan. the battle is going on right under our nose .
AGREED. Thanks.
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Thanks. That's a good one, imho.
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This sentence:
Convenient and just in time for November. It isn't complicated.
Seems like it is the intro to several paragraphs--or ought to be. Your assumptions and perceptions are likely not 100% the same as those of others. Please share yours.
@Quix
I don't know why it seems that way. We've seen that playbook over and over; it should be self-explanatory.
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@CatherineofAragon
@Quix, Catherine seems to be saying that the MSM onslaught occurred as a coordinated effort that was/is convenient and just in time for the Dems to make hay with the Republicans in the upcoming November elections.
Well, if that sort of opportunism is what is motivating their coordinated attack, I would opine that their timing is premature. They should have waited until September or even October to inflict maximum damage (i.e., maximum Democrat turnout) by their scoffing/accusations of right-wing conspiracy.
I believe the timing of the MSM's attempt to discredit Q was forced on them. All of the MSM outlets started attacking Q as soon as the Q Team came up on the public's radar.
There is no chance that it will do any good if Trump survives, but they have to try--ultimately in the hope that Trump drops dead before he can pull the trigger confirming the charges that Q has been posting on Trump's authority.
@the_doc
That's the point, though. It came up on the radar because the media started talking about it.
I don't know if it's premature or not. We're coming up on the middle of August, and once this month is over, it's eight weeks or so until Election Day. Plenty of time for the media to pound the "see how crazy the right is?' drum.
They probably figure the chance of Q believers doing a 180 is pretty small. I mean, now you guys are saying JFK Jr. faked his death and can be seen at Trump rallies. Who knows what's next.
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@the_doc
That's the point, though. It came up on the radar because the media started talking about it.
I don't know if it's premature or not. We're coming up on the middle of August, and once this month is over, it's eight weeks or so until Election Day. Plenty of time for the media to pound the "see how crazy the right is?' drum.
They probably figure the chance of Q believers doing a 180 is pretty small. I mean, now you guys are saying JFK Jr. faked his death and can be seen at Trump rallies. Who knows what's next.
It started with a Q sign that was very conspicuous on video at a Trump rally. The media didn't plan that, and they couldn't ignore it. So, I stand by my comment that Q did not come up on the public radar only when the media picked the time of their choosing.
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BTW, some of the Q followers are going down bizarre rabbit holes. Some of the anti-Q folks are, too.
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It started with a Q sign that was very conspicuous on video at a Trump rally. The media didn't plan that, and they couldn't ignore it. So, I stand by my comment that Q did not come up on the public radar only when the media picked the time of their choosing.
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BTW, some of the Q followers are going down bizarre rabbit holes. Some of the anti-Q folks are, too.
YUP. You are right, as usual. Thanks.
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2018-08-09 - Scott Adams teaches you how to know the truth about Q.
The mind of a "common sense" minded genius
Pretty good.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyV7eYyE-ao#)
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2018-08-09 - Scott Adams teaches you how to know the truth about Q.
The mind of a "common sense" minded genius
RE: Scott Adams' video.
Pretty good.
However, I was disappointed. It had all the veneer of erudite, sound facts, fairly tight and unassailable conclusions etc. Yet, much of that was merely appearances. The impressiveness was only skin deep.
Here's some different responses to his presentation:
SIGH. You are a smart, clever man. However, as one very high IQ bloke who has an above average success rate distinguishing reality from non-reality . . . You make a lot of decent to good points.
Most of your points are reasonable to a point. Your suggestion, implication, is that more or less each of them carries their water the whole distance to durn near proof. When, actually, they don't.
One of your topics--Bible Codes--you are simply wholesale wrong on. 1. IF the code word field length is 30 characters or less, YES, those can be found in any sufficiently long book.
2. HOWEVER, If the code field length is 50 and certainly 70, 120+ characters long, then EMPHATICALLY NOT--NO--OTHER BOOK BUT THE BIBLE yields anything remotely sensible or meaningful compared to the Biblical results. That is a crucial distinction.
3. That does not even get into the geometric authentification results. SOME of the Bible codes have multiple code fields on the same page. And in many of the cases, the surface text key words and the coded key words cross each other precisely. And, in many of the cases, the whole set of code fields on the page make a beautiful design--often a field of crosses of various consistent sizes.
4. The best site is BIBLECODEDIGEST.COM They have a lot of very significant discovered codes in their archive. This is their link to their BIBLE CODE MYTHS page.
https://biblecodedigest.com/page.php?PageID=523
5. One of the things I think you and your schema seems to miss is the fact that there are purposes, reasons to present material much as God does in The Bible and in life. There is sufficient evidence for FAITH but not sufficient evidence MOST of the time to FORCE belief--i.e. to take away choice in the matter.
6. Some Q-Anon predictive-like drops have been more specific and fulfilled more specifically than you seem to give credit for.
7. imho, there are a LOT of VERY BRILLIANT folks (my IQ is only 160+) who are convinced Q-Anon is the real deal. imho, they base a lot of their discernment, assessment on tiny puzzle pieces assessed intuitively toward a reasonably solid set of conclusions.
8. Similarly, you could say that some of those tiny puzzle pieces are NUANCE. imho, few people seem to give proper due to nuance when assessing such things. Yet, the specific women who happen to be in the top 3rd standard deviation range from the mean on intuition can accurately make life and death judgments very successfully--significantly, if not largely based on nuances involved in the field, context, actors being assessed. You did not seem to give proper weight to nuance.
9. There can also be an authentic spiritual element to assessing reality. Folks used to walking more or less full of Holy Spirit and gifted by Him in an abundance of discernment, tend to be above average in their discernment and assessments of reality from falsehood.
10. The recent furor of the MSM media coming out like a lynch mob against Q-Anon is one of the most genuinely remarkable confirmations of Q-Anon on the table. Anytime the globalist oligarchy starts winding up their MSM stooges to that shrill degree--in lock-step parroting of the oligarchy's party line--you can durn near bet that the *opposite* of whatever they are spewing is virtually guaranteed to be wholesale to totally true.
11. PRAYINGMEDIC.COM is a super sharp, very anointed & Spirit-Filled; very discerning 30 year medic bloke who has experienced 100's of miraculous healing in his work. He also happens to frequently (as does his similar wife) have Spirit fostered dreams that have authentic true information about Q-Anon and related stuff. He's balanced, reasonable, solid, stable, etc. He also happens to have a very wonderful, warm and gracious personality.
12. It will be interesting to see what you have to say once Q-Anon has been publicly verified by POTUS emphatically as authentic, real and accurate.
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The seven year tribulation began the day "Trump" (the Trump) became president. The church will be removed from earth before he has been in office 3 1/2 yrs. The last 3 1/2 yrs. he is president, he will cause wars and rumors of wars across the world. The two witnesses will preach in Jerusalem that last 3 1/2 yrs. They are killed, stay in the streets 3 days, are resurrected, taken to heaven. Christ comes to earth and judges those left on earth.
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You are angry people don't believe in Q. Why?
What do you want people to believe? Just that Q is someone? Okay, Q is someone.
Now, what do you want people to believe? That there are bad people mistreating kids? Okay, bad people are mistreating kids. Now, what do you want people to believe? You never say what you want people to believe. You accuse people of not believing? Not believing what? You want people to believe there are foreign out of the world aliens living under the South Pole ice? Why would they need to believe that? Are their lives going to change, going to work, feeding the family, going to church, if those aliens are there? RAD is in your mind only - you put that label on every person who doesn't believe like you. It seems you only know about RAD of all psychological disorders because you have it. You need to let that go.
Is the world coming to an end because aliens are under the South Pole? Fine, let it come to an end - Christians will be fine.
What do you want? Why do you rail against people who are not like you? You give them a disorder if they aren't you. They can't be you, they are them. What do you want? What do you want?
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You are angry people don't believe in Q. Why?
What do you want people to believe? Just that Q is someone? Okay, Q is someone.
Now, what do you want people to believe?
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What do you want? Why do you rail against people who are not like you? You give them a disorder if they aren't you. They can't be you, they are them. What do you want? What do you want?
I think I've answered your questions of such ilk, before.
1. I want folks to be alert, wake-up if they are in a globalist induced & ignorant stupor about globalist goals and strategies. I want them to realize the size of the battle between good and evil.
2. I'd prefer that folks realize the authenticity of the Q team and the patriotic usefulness & importance of helping POTUS overcome the horrific evils in government, Hollyweed, the media, corps, ed institutions etc. Help by helping their social network get red-pilled about globalism and its goals and strategies. etc. etc. etc.
3. Yeah, I am pretty lop-sided about RAD. I see it as foundational to MOST other disorders. So, why not emphasize the root causes for so much suffering and broken relationships?
4. Of course people have to be them. I've said all my life that one of me is more than enough for the world. Besides I prefer variety. There may be some general truths that I'd prefer folks to mostly own but I enjoy the differences in the details of perception and conclusions.
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The seven year tribulation began the day "Trump" (the Trump) became president. The church will be removed from earth before he has been in office 3 1/2 yrs. The last 3 1/2 yrs. he is president, he will cause wars and rumors of wars across the world. The two witnesses will preach in Jerusalem that last 3 1/2 yrs. They are killed, stay in the streets 3 days, are resurrected, taken to heaven. Christ comes to earth and judges those left on earth.
NOPE. Don't think you have that half right. Time will tell.
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I think I've answered your questions of such ilk, before.
1. I want folks to be alert, wake-up if they are in a globalist induced & ignorant stupor about globalist goals and strategies. I want them to realize the size of the battle between good and evil.
2. I'd prefer that folks realize the authenticity of the Q team and the patriotic usefulness & importance of helping POTUS overcome the horrific evils in government, Hollyweed, the media, corps, ed institutions etc. Help by helping their social network get red-pilled about globalism and its goals and strategies. etc. etc. etc.
3. Yeah, I am pretty lop-sided about RAD. I see it as foundational to MOST other disorders. So, why not emphasize the root causes for so much suffering and broken relationships?
4. Of course people have to be them. I've said all my life that one of me is more than enough for the world. Besides I prefer variety. There may be some general truths that I'd prefer folks to mostly own but I enjoy the differences in the details of perception and conclusions.
"1. I want folks to be alert, wake-up if they are in a globalist induced & ignorant stupor about globalist goals and strategies. I want them to realize the size of the battle between good and evil."
There is Jesus and there is Satan. That is good and evil. Okay, most people believe that. They are not writing articles but they believe that. Most people pass this test of yours.
"2. I'd prefer that folks realize the authenticity of the Q team and the patriotic usefulness & importance of helping POTUS overcome the horrific evils in government, Hollyweed, the media, corps, ed institutions etc. Help by helping their social network get red-pilled about globalism and its goals and strategies. etc. etc. etc."
Trump is a disaster of the highest order. Those who like him, like him, globalism or not. I have been alive 84 years and no one is going to get all fired up about globalism which I have heard all my life, unless you give names and tell people exactly what these people are doing. Globalism means nothing without details and you need proof of it. No one can do anything about it if it is true. Getting all upset over something you can't fix is not a good idea. Make sure you have supplies at your house in case of an emergency is all you can do. The idea of pushing a red pill down someone's mouth won't make you any friends. That is what that Q "red pill" means to people who hear about it. Stupid idea, whoever thought of that invisible pill - that is the reason you have it - it is invisible as your other ideas are. Q is certainly someone, so there is that reality.
Your ideas are just ideas and you have Q to give you more ideas to play with. You like ideas that can't be proved because it is easier to build fantasy than reality. You can stay in your fantasy every day building on them while other people must live in reality. You have no reality to show them so don't expect them to give up their reality to embrace fantasy.
"Besides I prefer variety."
No, you do not; you want sheep following you, believing what you believe or they get the red pill. You will keep on telling them to believe until they drop, just as you do writing these posts.
Here is the crux of your endeavors: You will never stop until all people praise/love you. That is it, Quix, you need the approval. RAD
I will leave you to your writings now and wish you well.
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One of your topics--Bible Codes--you are simply wholesale wrong on. 1. IF the code word field length is 30 characters or less, YES, those can be found in any sufficiently long book.
2. HOWEVER, If the code field length is 50 and certainly 70, 120+ characters long, then EMPHATICALLY NOT--NO--OTHER BOOK BUT THE BIBLE yields anything remotely sensible or meaningful compared to the Biblical results. That is a crucial distinction.
Be careful what you wish for.
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Be careful what you wish for.
I don't get your meaning applied to those paragraphs.
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I don't get your meaning applied to those paragraphs.
The Bible Code is not kind to Tump.
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Stupid idea, whoever thought of that invisible pill - that is the reason you have it - it is invisible as your other ideas are. Q is certainly someone, so there is that reality.
I'm fairly skeptical that we could currently agree on a lot of the details about reality. However, your assertion above about the reason I value the metaphor about the red pill is wrong. I value it because it is a useful metaphor. Not because it is invisible. Not that I expect you to believe a thing I say or write.
Your ideas are just ideas and you have Q to give you more ideas to play with. You like ideas that can't be proved because it is easier to build fantasy than reality. You can stay in your fantasy every day building on them while other people must live in reality. You have no reality to show them so don't expect them to give up their reality to embrace fantasy.
Wrong again. I'm grounded in tangible reality in a list of ways. Even the intangible constructs I spend a lot of time on have tangible connections, in my constructions on them. Again, you will believe what you will about me as well as anything else.
"Besides I prefer variety."
No, you do not; you want sheep following you, believing what you believe or they get the red pill. You will keep on telling them to believe until they drop, just as you do writing these posts.
I thought you understood me far better than that. You will discover otherwise eventually. Until then, enjoy your fantasies about me.
Here is the crux of your endeavors: You will never stop until all people praise/love you. That is it, Quix, you need the approval. RAD
Approval is an interesting issue. Certainly RAD is a factor in approval needs. However, I've mostly done without it. I have a list of closer loved ones around the world who give me lots of approval in our routine communications. And I have several friends who give me so much approval I sometimes have to ask them pointed questions just to be sure we are on the same tangible page. LOL.
Besides, approval like most relational things is VERY fickle and temporary in the best of times--at least with most people. That's just life.
I'm at peace with that.
Sure, I like approval. But it's not the end all or be all. And, it can be exceedingly suspect until the relationship and other person are proven over time.
Approval on the net has to be among the most fickle and temporary.
And what exactly are people approving?
That one is a decent human being?
That one is interesting?
That one is loving?
That one is smart?
That one is creative?
That one is kind?
That one is generous?
That one is thoughtful?
That one is intense?
That one is persistent?
. . .
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I've long known those things about me. Besides my own knowing myself out of my dialogues with God, closer loved ones and even many strangers have emphasized those qualities for decades.
Worth comes only from God. Any lesser approval is not going to add much to one's sense of worth.
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I will leave you to your writings now and wish you well.
I wish you well, too.
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@Quix said:
It's been months since I've checked in on it.
How long was the code character sequence?
Dude, you edited my post again... I fixed it and brought your words here...
Look into it, and look deep, because the usual suspects are favoring Tump, and omitting the things that will put him in a bad light.
It DOES anoint him Cyrus (and they will tell you that)
It also anoints him Apollo. and no one says a peep.
It also says he will be assassinated, in a cluster with the name of the assassin, and 666
Another cluster says he will commit sin associated with a group of 10 (Atlantis, 10 kings?), again with a cross of 666.
All part of the Isaiah cluster IIRC... though the usual scholars omit it... But there it is.
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@Quix said:
Dude, you edited my post again... I fixed it and brought your words here...
Look into it, and look deep, because the usual suspects are favoring Tump, and omitting the things that will put him in a bad light.
It DOES anoint him Cyrus (and they will tell you that)
It also anoints him Apollo. and no one says a peep.
It also says he will be assassinated, in a cluster with the name of the assassin, and 666
Another cluster says he will commit sin associated with a group of 10 (Atlantis, 10 kings?), again with a cross of 666.
All part of the Isaiah cluster IIRC... though the usual scholars omit it... But there it is.
Sorry I goofed.
The critical issue to start with is how long are the code strings. I don't put much stock in them until they are up around 80 characters or longer. And even then--it is hard to know what a given code is . . . i.e.
What perspective is it from?
God's?
Satan's?
A people's belief system?
etc. etc.
Sounds like that collection of stuff is a real hodge podge.
Thanks anyway.
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Sorry I goofed.
The critical issue to start with is how long are the code strings. I don't put much stock in them until they are up around 80 characters or longer. And even then--it is hard to know what a given code is . . . i.e.
What perspective is it from?
God's?
Satan's?
A people's belief system?
etc. etc.
Sounds like that collection of stuff is a real hodge podge.
Thanks anyway.
None so blind...
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None so blind...
Uhhhhh . . . that assertion can easily slice both ways.
IIRC you have not provided a link to the codes involved in your assertions.
You have not posted the codes.
You have not posted the methodology of arriving at the codes.
You have not provided the length of the code strings in characters.
You have not provided any assertions or evidence as to what perspective said codes are considered to be written from.
You have not provided any assertions or evidence about the code researchers qualifications and track record.
You have not provided any assertions or evidence about the purported quality of the software used.
You have not provided any assertions about the mathematical underpinning of the code sofware.
"None are so blind as those" for whom the evidence has been withheld.
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@Quix
When someone says they want to "red-pill" me, do you know what my response is going to be? Or what the response of most people will be?
Why do Q believers have to even use that term instead of just saying they want to convince/persuade people? It's for the same reason they go around spouting slogans like "where we go one, we go all" or whatever it is. It's a secret handshake, a roleplay game. They feel they belong to something bigger than themselves.
"That one is a decent human being?
That one is interesting?
That one is loving?
That one is smart?
That one is creative?
That one is kind?
That one is generous?
That one is thoughtful?
That one is intense?
That one is persistent?
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I've long known those things about me. Besides my own knowing myself out of my dialogues with God, closer loved ones and even many strangers have emphasized those qualities for decades. "
Wow, well...your self-esteem is definitely strong.
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Uhhhhh . . . that assertion can easily slice both ways.
IIRC you have not provided a link to the codes involved in your assertions.
Yep, you are right. Mentioned only in passing, as you were defending Bible Code. I don't ride Bible Code. I don't have links at hand, nor do I care enough about it to go find em for you. It's there alright, and you know right where to look. That's not the point.
What makes one blind is summarily dismissing things without consideration, because they don't fit your paradigm... You know... What you've been generally accusing all of us of doing...
Nevermind. You go your way... I'll see you when the dust settles.
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@Quix
When someone says they want to "red-pill" me, do you know what my response is going to be? Or what the response of most people will be?
Why do Q believers have to even use that term instead of just saying they want to convince/persuade people? It's for the same reason they go around spouting slogans like "where we go one, we go all" or whatever it is. It's a secret handshake, a roleplay game. They feel they belong to something bigger than themselves.
"That one is a decent human being?
That one is interesting?
That one is loving?
That one is smart?
That one is creative?
That one is kind?
That one is generous?
That one is thoughtful?
That one is intense?
That one is persistent?
. . .
. . .
I've long known those things about me. Besides my own knowing myself out of my dialogues with God, closer loved ones and even many strangers have emphasized those qualities for decades. "
Wow, well...your self-esteem is definitely strong.
That would depend on how much of that knowledge is head knowledge and how much heart knowledge. Mine is a mixture . . . sometimes a disappointing mixture.
However, I expected someone to make that kind of comment. That kind of post kind of begs for it.
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Yep, you are right. Mentioned only in passing, as you were defending Bible Code. I don't ride Bible Code. I don't have links at hand, nor do I care enough about it to go find em for you. It's there alright, and you know right where to look. That's not the point.
What makes one blind is summarily dismissing things without consideration, because they don't fit your paradigm... You know... What you've been generally accusing all of us of doing...
Nevermind. You go your way... I'll see you when the dust settles.
I rarely if ever dismiss things without consideration. I tend to consider dozens of options in the privacy of my own thinking and prayers. There is rarely a new topic or even an aspect that I haven't considered somewhat. Your thinking I have not considered something before being quite skeptical or dismissive may be quite askew from the facts.
And, I don't recall asserting that y'all dismissed things without considering them. I tend to assume that you have considered them to some degree. I may think that you have considered them too little or without sufficient amounts of the whole picture but that's a different issue.
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@Quix
That would depend on how much of that knowledge is head knowledge and how much heart knowledge. Mine is a mixture . . . sometimes a disappointing mixture.
However, I expected someone to make that kind of comment. That kind of post kind of begs for it.
Sort of. I see that your IQ is *only* 160. That’s nice for you.
So when is Trump supposed to publicly unveil Q? Can you give a timeframe?
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@Quix
Sort of. I see that your IQ is *only* 160. That’s nice for you.
So when is Trump supposed to publicly unveil Q? Can you give a timeframe?
Out of my RAD insecurities, I've groveled most of my life; considered myself less than most folks etc. etc. etc. Even with my PhD, I still thought of myself mostly as a Southwestern farm hick from poor white trash background. Whenever someone had a criticism, I took it to heart and tried to redouble my efforts to be better very earnestly.
Lots of people along the way affirmed the better qualities God was building within me--but I tended to pass such comments off as over-blown or insincere etc. Some would kind of grab me and shake me and try and insist that I accept that I was an above average decent bloke but it has been a hard thing to do very fully or sincerely.
The last decade or two, I've made more progress with a more accurate understanding of what God has done within me--realizing always very keenly that I'm still a wet-behind-the-ears snotty nosed brat in an annoying number of ways. Yet, I can see, with some objectivity that list of qualities that so many have commented about over the years. And I'm sure thankful to God that I'm more in those directions than I was when I started out--by a good margin. Have always had a tender heart and cared for others but such was often expressed in problematic ways.
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In terms of timeline for Q-Anon: I don't even know prophetic people who have that down well at all. I figure some significantly more dramatic things will be disclosed within 30 days or so of mid-terms and probably incrementally escalating between now and then.
I'm skeptical that Q-anon will be revealed before some years are past and the vast bulk of the horrendously huge & awful project is over the hump toward being accomplished. There's a lot more usefulness in the team remaining anonymous.
just my humble opinions.
Thanks for the honor of your question.
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@Quix
Sort of. I see that your IQ is *only* 160. That’s nice for you.
So when is Trump supposed to publicly unveil Q? Can you give a timeframe?
As you may know, High IQ folks can get in bigger messes than low IQ folks--particularly if they erroneously think that they are smart about everything--which too many seem to think.
In my case, too often, it has "merely" meant that the messes I got myself in were more complicated than the messes of other people.
However, I praise God for His gifts in such regard. It has meant that it is difficult for me to be bored. I can at least think of many interesting and complex things in my mind. And, usually, e.g. as in a brainstorming session--when others in the group struggle to come up with 3-4 items, I usually can list 12 or so fairly quickly. That can be fun.
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As you may know, High IQ folks can get in bigger messes than low IQ folks--particularly if they erroneously think that they are smart about everything--which too many seem to think.
In my case, too often, it has "merely" meant that the messes I got myself in were more complicated than the messes of other people.
However, I praise God for His gifts in such regard. It has meant that it is difficult for me to be bored. I can at least think of many interesting and complex things in my mind. And, usually, e.g. as in a brainstorming session--when others in the group struggle to come up with 3-4 items, I usually can list 12 or so fairly quickly. That can be fun.
Gotta watch out for the brilliant folks...lol. I have a cousin who was brilliant...was in the upper crust of Mensa...whatever the name of that is. The guy ended up being a librarian and a hoarder. When it rained, he sat in his den with an umbrella, so he could watch tv and not get wet, because he was too cheap to fix the roof. He was brilliant, but didn't have the sense to come out of the rain. Actually a nice guy though...
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Gotta watch out for the brilliant folks...lol. I have a cousin who was brilliant...was in the upper crust of Mensa...whatever the name of that is. The guy ended up being a librarian and a hoarder. When it rained, he sat in his den with an umbrella, so he could watch tv and not get wet, because he was too cheap to fix the roof. He was brilliant, but didn't have the sense to come out of the rain. Actually a nice guy though...
Indeed.
Thankfully, I still know enough common sense to come in out of the rain--though I may enjoy walking in it on occasion.
I am a bit behind in sorting and tossing but I don't have any trouble letting go of carp and junk. As long as I can make it enough of a priority to bother with. BTW, is unopened Miracle Whip 3 years old still any good? LOL.